Re: water leak from sinuses

[Guest guest]

Well, I am glad to know I am

not the only one having the leaky nose problem! I have always felt that

it was coming from my maxillary sinuses and not my frontals. Sometimes I can

feel pressure in them and bending over to let my nose drain seems to relieve

that some. My ENT looked at me like I was nuts when I told him about

it. He has no idea why it is happening though he did say the inside of my

sinuses is really moist. But then again, he has no idea why my sinuses

are as screwed up as they are. He does not believe it is the Samter’s

but I like him and he is prescribing the stuff I need that is helping and he is

not one to jump to surgery. I am not on oral steroids but I do use Flonase

twice a day, I wonder if that has an effect? Not that I am going to stop

the Flonase to find out!! I thought maybe it was the infection I had but

that is gone now (I think) and I am still having the leaky nose, though not

quite as bad. And my sense of smell is totally back again after 2 weeks

of antibiotics so I am very happy. I’m still paranoid something at

work is making my sinuses worse but there is simply nothing I can do about that

right now. So I carry Kleenex around in my pockets all the time so I can

hold them to my nose whenever I have to bend over. It really is embarrassing

to be in the lab helping someone with an instrument problem and bend over and

have to rush to grab a tissue! Fortunately by now most people know I have

allergies and don’t freak out when I blow my nose and ask if I am

sick. I have found it is easy to say, “No, it is allergies”

and people accept it and move on. I have not had the burning or ammonia

smell when this happens. That does not sound pleasant!!

K.

water leak from

sinuses

I've experienced the water

leak. I believe this is from the frontals. Has anyone ever had

burning when the thin water like mucus comes out? It feels like someone

dumped acid in my snout. And it smells like ammonia when this happens.

I always thought it was probably infection. Any thoughts?

Tami

[Guest guest]

,

You definitely have Samters but your ENT does not believe it is the Samters causing your sinus problems? Hmm ... well, Samters can really screw up your sinuses, that's all I'll say about that!

I use the "oh, it's just allergies" comment ALL the time. But sometimes I am so congested it sounds like a cold, especially over the phone. But I don't like people to think I'm "sick" all the time, sick like with a cold or especially anything contagious, so I usually say "chronic sinus stuff" and leave it at that. I've had a lot of trouble lately especially when we were on vacation with people trying to get me to drink alcohol, which really screws up the Samters symptoms. In Europe in particular it is almost unheard of not to drink and women drink even during pregnancy so it was difficult to deal with.

Lori

[Guest guest]

After my first sinus surgery, my ENT warned me about the " leak " . He had

basically hollowed out a

lot of my sinus cavity, since he said that I would likely get polyps back and

this would allow me

to wait longer before I had to have surgery again. As I recall, it's the

maxillary sinuses that

flow unexpectedly when you bend over.

I remember it happening one time during a conference room presentation to our

corporate chairman.

Not fun. I still have the problem sometimes after I irrigate. I think it also

happens after

prednisone when your sinuses first open up.

Looks like it's common to many of us.

Jim (Tx)

--- Lori Baur <lori@...> wrote:

> ,

>

> You definitely have Samters but your ENT does not believe it is the Samters

causing your sinus

> problems? Hmm ... well, Samters can really screw up your sinuses, that's all

I'll say about

> that!

>

> I use the " oh, it's just allergies " comment ALL the time. But sometimes I am

so congested it

> sounds like a cold, especially over the phone. But I don't like people to

think I'm " sick " all

> the time, sick like with a cold or especially anything contagious, so I

usually say " chronic

> sinus stuff " and leave it at that. I've had a lot of trouble lately

especially when we were on

> vacation with people trying to get me to drink alcohol, which really screws up

the Samters

> symptoms. In Europe in particular it is almost unheard of not to drink and

women drink even

> during pregnancy so it was difficult to deal with.

>

> Lori

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Yup, he thinks maybe the Samter’s

makes it all a little worse, but that it isn’t the major underlying

cause. After reading as much as I have on this list, I am convinced it is

the Samter’s! My allergies do not help matters either.

I understand the sounding stuffed up

thing. I was so happy the other day when my stepmother commented that I actually

didn’t sound stuffed up over the phone for a change! I was glad I got

the antibiotics despite the nasty side effects, my sinuses feel so much

better. And now I know what to look for as this sinus infection wasn’t

as horrible as others I have had so I think it lingered for a long time.

I do still drink, but only

occasionally. Sometimes it will screw me up and sometimes it doesn’t,

so I roll the dice and enjoy some wine once in awhile. I find that lately

my nose just stuffs up over night then I am fine the next day. Especially

right now since I can smell! I avoid it when I can’t as there is no

point and honestly some wines can be downright nasty if your sense of smell is

screwed up! But I do love wine and good food and so long as it doesn’t

totally screw up my nose I can deal with it…

K.

Re: water leak

from sinuses

,

You definitely have Samters but your ENT does not

believe it is the Samters causing your sinus problems? Hmm ... well,

Samters can really screw up your sinuses, that's all I'll say about that!

I use the " oh, it's just allergies " comment

ALL the time. But sometimes I am so congested it sounds like a cold, especially

over the phone. But I don't like people to think I'm " sick " all

the time, sick like with a cold or especially anything contagious, so I usually

say " chronic sinus stuff " and leave it at that. I've had a lot

of trouble lately especially when we were on vacation with people trying to get

me to drink alcohol, which really screws up the Samters symptoms. In

Europe in particular it is almost unheard of not to drink and women drink even

during pregnancy so it was difficult to deal with.

Lori

[Guest guest]

I’m pretty sure it

is my maxillaries. Sometimes my frontals get really clogged and hurt really

bad but I don’t get the liquid draining from them, that seems to be

thicker. And the liquid goes out the nose and never seems to go down my

throat.

Maybe singing in my car has kept my asthma

from getting too bad?? J I am certainly able to sing more and more loudly in the car now

that my sinuses are clearer.

K.

Re: water leak

from sinuses

Is everyone sure it is the maxillary

that leaks? The only reason I believe it's the frontals is because my

frontals are almost always shut down, and every now and then I get this feeling

in my frontals, so I instantly lay down and if I'm quick enough some thin

liquid will drain down the back of my throat. The sensation of something

moving is in my frontals and usually some pressure headache relief is felt

after it happens. Years ago I use to always lay on my back and roll

slowly from side to side to relieve some frontal pressure. It doesn't

happen much anymore though. I rarely ever have to blow my nose anymore.

I know though that when I had polyps in my maxillaries I had many stuffy days

and sneezing attacks.

One thing I did realize recently is

that our bodies adjust to our diminished breathing and it seems so gradual, we

don't even notice it. I've been playing my guitar and singing more lately

and it seems to really help with lung issues. I would think it's a good

thing to try and take deeper breaths. Everyone start singing in your car,

loudly. Hold the notes longer too. You'll see what I mean.

Tami

Re:

water leak from sinuses

After my first sinus

surgery, my ENT warned me about the " leak " . He had basically hollowed

out a

lot of my sinus cavity, since he said that I would likely get polyps back and

this would allow me

to wait longer before I had to have surgery again. As I recall, it's the

maxillary sinuses that

flow unexpectedly when you bend over.

I remember it happening one time during a conference room presentation to our

corporate chairman.

Not fun. I still have the problem sometimes after I irrigate. I think it also

happens after

prednisone when your sinuses first open up.

Looks like it's common to many of us.

Jim (Tx)

--- Lori Baur <loritruelori>

wrote:

> ,

>

> You definitely have Samters but your ENT does not believe it is the

Samters causing your sinus

> problems? Hmm ... well, Samters can really screw up your sinuses, that's

all I'll say about

> that!

>

> I use the " oh, it's just allergies " comment ALL the time. But sometimes

I am so congested it

> sounds like a cold, especially over the phone. But I don't like people to

think I'm " sick " all

> the time, sick like with a cold or especially anything contagious, so I

usually say " chronic

> sinus stuff " and leave it at that. I've had a lot of trouble lately

especially when we were on

> vacation with people trying to get me to drink alcohol, which really

screws up the Samters

> symptoms. In Europe in particular it is almost unheard of not to drink and

women drink even

> during pregnancy so it was difficult to deal with.

>

> Lori

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Is everyone sure it is the maxillary that leaks? The only reason I believe it's the frontals is because my frontals are almost always shut down, and every now and then I get this feeling in my frontals, so I instantly lay down and if I'm quick enough some thin liquid will drain down the back of my throat. The sensation of something moving is in my frontals and usually some pressure headache relief is felt after it happens. Years ago I use to always lay on my back and roll slowly from side to side to relieve some frontal pressure. It doesn't happen much anymore though. I rarely ever have to blow my nose anymore. I know though that when I had polyps in my maxillaries I had many stuffy days and sneezing attacks.

One thing I did realize recently is that our bodies adjust to our diminished breathing and it seems so gradual, we don't even notice it. I've been playing my guitar and singing more lately and it seems to really help with lung issues. I would think it's a good thing to try and take deeper breaths. Everyone start singing in your car, loudly. Hold the notes longer too. You'll see what I mean.

Tami

Re: water leak from sinuses

After my first sinus surgery, my ENT warned me about the "leak". He had basically hollowed out alot of my sinus cavity, since he said that I would likely get polyps back and this would allow meto wait longer before I had to have surgery again. As I recall, it's the maxillary sinuses thatflow unexpectedly when you bend over. I remember it happening one time during a conference room presentation to our corporate chairman.Not fun. I still have the problem sometimes after I irrigate. I think it also happens afterprednisone when your sinuses first open up.Looks like it's common to many of us.Jim (Tx)--- Lori Baur <loritruelori> wrote:> , > > You definitely have Samters but your ENT does not believe it is the Samters causing your sinus> problems? Hmm ... well, Samters can really screw up your sinuses, that's all I'll say about> that! > > I use the "oh, it's just allergies" comment ALL the time. But sometimes I am so congested it> sounds like a cold, especially over the phone. But I don't like people to think I'm "sick" all> the time, sick like with a cold or especially anything contagious, so I usually say "chronic> sinus stuff" and leave it at that. I've had a lot of trouble lately especially when we were on> vacation with people trying to get me to drink alcohol, which really screws up the Samters> symptoms. In Europe in particular it is almost unheard of not to drink and women drink even> during pregnancy so it was difficult to deal with. > > Lori> > > > >

[Guest guest]

I'm not sure whether its the frontals or maxillary, but I can relate to the feeling of pressure in the sinuses on my upper cheeks and between the eyes, because I used to lean forward to drain my sinuses just to get relief. Its almost as if I can feel it when they fill up. Then I lean forward and turn my head from side to side to empty it and it feels a lot better. And wow, I didn't realize that liquor is what made my sinuses react. I always knew that my sinuses always acted up when I went out to clubs, but I thought it was from the cigarette smoke, so I always popped about 10mg of Prednisone before going out. I always did get even a little congested though and extra leaky. I use to take Zyrtec and it worked but for me not any better than Claritin D and Claritin is much cheaper too. With me having this condition for so long, I just got tired of all the pill popping and sinus sprays. At this point I just keep it simple, 5mg of

prednisone, 2-sprays of flonase in each nostril, 3-drops of maxidex, (which is a medicated eye drop) everyday and 1cc (a full needle) of prednisone in my sinuses every 3months. Though I hate taking Prednisone, it is all that keeps my whole upper respiratory system from shutting down, because I've taken it for so long my body is dependant on it. This also keeps the surgeries limited. Wow, looking at what I just typed, that still seems like a lot to take, but I use to take about 8 pills and 3 sinus sprays per day. Tami Klumpyan <tami@...> wrote: Is everyone sure it is the maxillary that leaks? The only reason I believe it's the frontals is because my frontals are almost always shut down, and every now and then I get this feeling in my frontals, so I instantly lay down and if I'm quick enough some thin liquid will drain down the back of my throat. The sensation of something moving is in my frontals and usually some pressure headache relief is felt after it happens. Years ago I use to always lay on my back and roll slowly from side to side to relieve some frontal pressure. It doesn't happen much anymore though. I rarely ever have to blow my nose anymore. I know though that when I had polyps in my maxillaries I had many stuffy days and sneezing attacks. One thing I did realize recently is that our bodies adjust to our diminished breathing

and it seems so gradual, we don't even notice it. I've been playing my guitar and singing more lately and it seems to really help with lung issues. I would think it's a good thing to try and take deeper breaths. Everyone start singing in your car, loudly. Hold the notes longer too. You'll see what I mean. Tami Re: water leak from sinuses After my first sinus surgery, my ENT warned me about the "leak". He had basically hollowed out alot of my sinus cavity, since he said that I would likely get polyps back and this would allow meto wait longer before I had to have surgery again. As I recall, it's the maxillary sinuses thatflow unexpectedly when you bend over. I remember it happening one time during a conference room presentation to our corporate chairman.Not fun. I still have the problem sometimes after I irrigate. I think it also happens afterprednisone when your sinuses first open up.Looks like it's common to many of us.Jim (Tx)--- Lori Baur <loritruelori> wrote:> , > > You definitely have Samters but your ENT does not believe it is the

Samters causing your sinus> problems? Hmm ... well, Samters can really screw up your sinuses, that's all I'll say about> that! > > I use the "oh, it's just allergies" comment ALL the time. But sometimes I am so congested it> sounds like a cold, especially over the phone. But I don't like people to think I'm "sick" all> the time, sick like with a cold or especially anything contagious, so I usually say "chronic> sinus stuff" and leave it at that. I've had a lot of trouble lately especially when we were on> vacation with people trying to get me to drink alcohol, which really screws up the Samters> symptoms. In Europe in particular it is almost unheard of not to drink and women drink even> during pregnancy so it was difficult to deal with. > > Lori> > > > >

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[Guest guest]

Hey ya'll -

I also had the 'water leak' right after my 4th surgery.

The doctors couldn't figure out why I was having so much drainage in

the mornings when I would sit up in the bed, or while leaning over

during the day....It would gush out, just as ya'll have discribed.

The ENT doc's couldn't 'see' anything when they looked at my sinuses

with their scopes. It just looked extra wet.

But, then they decided to have me take a sample cup (the sterilized

cups with lids used in hospitals) and collect this liquid the next

morning. It was a cloudy color, and I collected about a quarter cup

upon waking the next morning. They sent this sample liquid to the lab

to look for any infections and for the possibility of a CSF Leak. It

came back in a few days as a positive CSF Leak. I had to have a

repair surgery almost immediately to plug this up.

I have had drainage while on steroids, too - just because the meds

open up the sinuses, and they drain better....but my CSF leak was

alot more fluid than what I get while on steroids.

You all might ask your doctors to test the fluid just to double check

exactly what it is that is pouring out of your nose.

I am glad I did - having a CSF leak is very dangerous, and can lead

to more problems than anyone wants to deal with. I'm not trying to

scare anyone - but better to be safe and get it tested, just in case.

kz (tx)

>

> > ,

> >

> > You definitely have Samters but your ENT does not believe it is

the Samters causing your sinus

> > problems? Hmm ... well, Samters can really screw up your

sinuses, that's all I'll say about

> > that!

> >

> > I use the " oh, it's just allergies " comment ALL the time. But

sometimes I am so congested it

> > sounds like a cold, especially over the phone. But I don't like

people to think I'm " sick " all

> > the time, sick like with a cold or especially anything

contagious, so I usually say " chronic

> > sinus stuff " and leave it at that. I've had a lot of trouble

lately especially when we were on

> > vacation with people trying to get me to drink alcohol, which

really screws up the Samters

> > symptoms. In Europe in particular it is almost unheard of not to

drink and women drink even

> > during pregnancy so it was difficult to deal with.

> >

> > Lori

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Ammonia would be the term I have been looking for to describe the occasional smell in my nose when there is some pressure. Pat TriceTami Klumpyan <tami@...> wrote: I've experienced the water leak. I believe this is from the frontals. Has anyone ever had burning when the thin water like mucus comes out? It feels like someone dumped acid in my snout. And it smells like ammonia when this happens. I always thought it was probably infection. Any thoughts? Tami

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If I bend over too far I get a " water leak " quite often. I've never

had it hurt or burn though. I haven't had a sense of smell in a very

long time so of course there is no ammonia smell either. It can be

very embarrassing though :-(

I've experienced the water

leak. I believe this is from the frontals. Has anyone ever had

burning when the thin water like mucus comes out? It feels like

someone dumped acid in my snout. And it smells like ammonia when

this happens. I always thought it was probably infection. Any

thoughts?

> Tami

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