Re: Probiotics for the sinuses

May 23, 2010

Right.

>

> Surgery,ASA desensitization,and a nasal irrigation technique taylored to

first eradicating biofilms,maintaining a state of sinus health by compensating

for deficient host defenses,and probiotic bacteria to help establish a more

normal host bacterial flora.This sounds to me like a direction we need to

take.Also appropriate Antileukotriene drugs that apply to the metabolites

increased in the inflammatory pathway and hopefully a day when oral prednisone

is no longer required.

>

May 23, 2010

How can we colonise our sinuses with 'good' bacteria. Is taking probiotic drinks and eating bioyoghurt good enough? I am desperate to get on top of the vile infection in my sinuses and pray that the surgeon will be able to get it all out so I can start again...I want to give myself the best start so I can avoid new nasty bugs.

Becky

From: asfy <asfyso@...>samters Sent: Sun, 23 May, 2010 8:28:20Subject: Re: Probiotics for the sinuses

Right.>> Surgery,ASA desensitization,and a nasal irrigation technique taylored to first eradicating biofilms,maintaining a state of sinus health by compensating for deficient host defenses,and probiotic bacteria to help establish a more normal host bacterial flora.This sounds to me like a direction we need to take.Also appropriate Antileukotriene drugs that apply to the metabolites increased in the inflammatory pathway and hopefully a day when oral prednisone is no longer required.>

May 25, 2010

Hi everyone,

Antony here, It’s

been a while since my last post. I can certainly say I learn more from

the group of you then anywhere else and I am very thankful for it. I had

surgery Mar 18 2009 to clean out my sinus that was full of polyps.(again)

It was my 5th one in 12 years. For the last 2 years I have

been taking daily acidophilus and fish oils however when my sinus’s flare

up, I start taking an oregano based supplement. Three weeks before my

surgery I took Manuka Honey 3 times per day to help break down biofilm in the

sinus. Here is what I currently take daily;

Vitamin D

Vitamin C

2 capsules of Acidophilus

Fish oil

In the past, I have mentioned that I took Fungal Defense and

Bio-K( Acidophilus drink). I am still taking the Fungal Defense and Oregosen

when I get congestion and sinus infections however I have started to taking acidophilus

in a pill form as my naturalpath has told me it allows for more absorption in

the intensions as apposed to the gut.(cheaper as well)

I went to see my ENT on May 18(last week) and with the

exception of 2 small polyps( on my worst side) which were too small to cut out,

I am still completely clear. Unfortunately no SOS has come back but I’ll

take congestion relief to SOS any day!! When I had my surgery, the first

thing my ENT told me was that my Sinus was exceptionally clear and clean.

No regular gunk or build up at all. I realize that what I am taking is

not a cure but these supplements have definitely helps slow the rate of growth

in polyps I used to have. I have been fighting them for 12 years and at

each 3 month check up, I used to have 10-15 dime sized polyps cut out. One

time I had one so big that I could grab it with my fingers. It almost

hung out of my nose. Although I believe these supplements are very

helpful, it takes awhile to see any benefit.

I hope this helps

May 25, 2010

Hi ,Thanks for reporting on your experience, especially since your regimen has produced very good results in your case and may give us some hopes.At first glance, I would say that vitamins C, D, fish oils and probiotics are useful to boost up the organism and immune defences a little bit, but IMO they cannot account alone for the disappearance of polyps unless you were seriously deprived.One cause for the polyp disappearance may be that your FESS went fine, maybe because this time you irrigated intensively with Manuka honey, which has an antibiotic action and helps tissues heal very efficiently. (Do I read right, did you eat the honey or irrigate with it, which is very different in terms of action?)Fungal defense is also a factor that may have helped because it contains herbs whose antiseptic action is well-recognized :- syrian oregano (not the same as oregano, but neither better nor worse, a recognized antiseptic),- sweet basil,- lemongrass (a recognized antiseptic),- olive oil (modest antiseptic action, but can improve the bioavailability of the other herbs),- chinese cinnamon (a recognized antiseptic, though not as strong as real ceylon cinnamon),- garlic juice (a recognized antiseptic),- yucca juice (maybe antifungal).However, I understand that you have not been taking Fungal Defense continuously but sporadically (which is wise because long-term herb supplements can tax the liver and call for liver monitoring). Therefore, it sounds like the success of your last FESS, possibly because of manuka honey (but also possibly because of a good, thorough surgeon in addition), was a determinant factor.At any rate, thanks for sharing this.>> Hi everyone, > > > > Antony here, It's been a while since my last post. I can certainly say> I learn more from the group of you then anywhere else and I am very> thankful for it. I had surgery Mar 18 2009 to clean out my sinus that> was full of polyps.(again) It was my 5th one in 12 years. For the last> 2 years I have been taking daily acidophilus and fish oils however when> my sinus's flare up, I start taking an oregano based supplement. Three> weeks before my surgery I took Manuka Honey 3 times per day to help> break down biofilm in the sinus. Here is what I currently take daily;> > > > Vitamin D> > Vitamin C> > 2 capsules of Acidophilus> > Fish oil> > > > In the past, I have mentioned that I took Fungal Defense and Bio-K(> Acidophilus drink). I am still taking the Fungal Defense and Oregosen> when I get congestion and sinus infections however I have started to> taking acidophilus in a pill form as my naturalpath has told me it> allows for more absorption in the intensions as apposed to the> gut.(cheaper as well) > > > > I went to see my ENT on May 18(last week) and with the exception of 2> small polyps( on my worst side) which were too small to cut out, I am> still completely clear. Unfortunately no SOS has come back but I'll> take congestion relief to SOS any day!! When I had my surgery, the> first thing my ENT told me was that my Sinus was exceptionally clear and> clean. No regular gunk or build up at all. I realize that what I am> taking is not a cure but these supplements have definitely helps slow> the rate of growth in polyps I used to have. I have been fighting them> for 12 years and at each 3 month check up, I used to have 10-15 dime> sized polyps cut out. One time I had one so big that I could grab it> with my fingers. It almost hung out of my nose. Although I believe> these supplements are very helpful, it takes awhile to see any benefit.> > > > > I hope this helps > > > > >

May 25, 2010

,

What is Oregosen and how much Vitamin D are you taking?

Jane

From: Ansara, (Norbord) <anthony.ansara@...>Subject: Re: Probiotics for the sinusessamters Date: Tuesday, May 25, 2010, 8:01 AM

Hi everyone,

Antony here, Itâ€™s been a while since my last post. I can certainly say I learn more from the group of you then anywhere else and I am very thankful for it. I had surgery Mar 18 2009 to clean out my sinus that was full of polyps.(again) It was my 5th one in 12 years. For the last 2 years I have been taking daily acidophilus and fish oils however when my sinusâ€™s flare up, I start taking an oregano based supplement. Three weeks before my surgery I took Manuka Honey 3 times per day to help break down biofilm in the sinus. Here is what I currently take daily;

Vitamin D

Vitamin C

2 capsules of Acidophilus

Fish oil

In the past, I have mentioned that I took Fungal Defense and Bio-K( Acidophilus drink). I am still taking the Fungal Defense and Oregosen when I get congestion and sinus infections however I have started to taking acidophilus in a pill form as my naturalpath has told me it allows for more absorption in the intensions as apposed to the gut.(cheaper as well)

I went to see my ENT on May 18(last week) and with the exception of 2 small polyps( on my worst side) which were too small to cut out, I am still completely clear. Unfortunately no SOS has come back but Iâ€™ll take congestion relief to SOS any day!! When I had my surgery, the first thing my ENT told me was that my Sinus was exceptionally clear and clean. No regular gunk or build up at all. I realize that what I am taking is not a cure but these supplements have definitely helps slow the rate of growth in polyps I used to have. I have been fighting them for 12 years and at each 3 month check up, I used to have 10-15 dime sized polyps cut out. One time I had one so big that I could grab it with my fingers. It almost hung out of my nose. Although I believe these supplements are very helpful, it takes awhile to see any

benefit.

I hope this helps

May 25, 2010

Can you explain the benefits of Manuka honey and how it should be used?

Jane

From: asfy <asfyso@...>Subject: Re: Probiotics for the sinusessamters Date: Tuesday, May 25, 2010, 3:11 PM

Hi ,

Thanks for reporting on your experience, especially since your regimen has produced very good results in your case and may give us some hopes.

At first glance, I would say that vitamins C, D, fish oils and probiotics are useful to boost up the organism and immune defences a little bit, but IMO they cannot account alone for the disappearance of polyps unless you were seriously deprived.

One cause for the polyp disappearance may be that your FESS went fine, maybe because this time you irrigated intensively with Manuka honey, which has an antibiotic action and helps tissues heal very efficiently. (Do I read right, did you eat the honey or irrigate with it, which is very different in terms of action?)

Fungal defense is also a factor that may have helped because it contains herbs whose antiseptic action is well-recognized :

- syrian oregano (not the same as oregano, but neither better nor worse, a recognized antiseptic),

- sweet basil,

- lemongrass (a recognized antiseptic),

- olive oil (modest antiseptic action, but can improve the bioavailability of the other herbs),

- chinese cinnamon (a recognized antiseptic, though not as strong as real ceylon cinnamon),

- garlic juice (a recognized antiseptic),

- yucca juice (maybe antifungal).

However, I understand that you have not been taking Fungal Defense continuously but sporadically (which is wise because long-term herb supplements can tax the liver and call for liver monitoring). Therefore, it sounds like the success of your last FESS, possibly because of manuka honey (but also possibly because of a good, thorough surgeon in addition), was a determinant factor.

At any rate, thanks for sharing this.>> Hi everyone, > > > > Antony here, It's been a while since my last post. I can certainly say> I learn more from the group of you then anywhere else and I am very> thankful for it. I had surgery Mar 18 2009 to clean out my sinus that> was full of polyps.(again) It was my 5th one in 12 years. For the last> 2 years I have been taking daily acidophilus and fish oils however when> my sinus's flare up, I start taking an oregano based supplement. Three> weeks before my surgery I took Manuka Honey 3 times per day to help> break down biofilm in the sinus. Here is what I currently take daily;> > > > Vitamin D> > Vitamin C> > 2 capsules of Acidophilus> > Fish

oil> > > > In the past, I have mentioned that I took Fungal Defense and Bio-K(> Acidophilus drink). I am still taking the Fungal Defense and Oregosen> when I get congestion and sinus infections however I have started to> taking acidophilus in a pill form as my naturalpath has told me it> allows for more absorption in the intensions as apposed to the> gut.(cheaper as well) > > > > I went to see my ENT on May 18(last week) and with the exception of 2> small polyps( on my worst side) which were too small to cut out, I am> still completely clear. Unfortunately no SOS has come back but I'll> take congestion relief to SOS any day!! When I had my surgery, the> first thing my ENT told me was that my Sinus was exceptionally clear and> clean. No regular gunk or build up at all. I realize that what I am> taking is not a cure but

these supplements have definitely helps slow> the rate of growth in polyps I used to have. I have been fighting them> for 12 years and at each 3 month check up, I used to have 10-15 dime> sized polyps cut out. One time I had one so big that I could grab it> with my fingers. It almost hung out of my nose. Although I believe> these supplements are very helpful, it takes awhile to see any benefit.> > > > > I hope this helps > > > > >

May 25, 2010

I have not posted in a long time mostly because I have felt great for several months now. I eat a mostly salicylate free diet (the artificial ones), I have Kefir that I homegrow daily (major probiotic) and I take 2000 IU of D3. I had surgery in Nov. of 2008 and I have no polyp regrowth. I have not taken antibiotics or steroids since before the surgery. If I feel like I may be getting infected I take Barleans olive leaf extract. I have emptied my house of processed food and I only eat real food. Not only do I feel cured my kids did not have one single cold or virus all year. That is a huge improvement from the year before. The most amazing thing to me is that at one point I was on 6 daily meds and now I take zero. Samter's was not my only major problem which has disappeared with healthier

eating. My last challenge is to lose the weight that all the steroids packed on. I hope someone else can benefit from some of these things. TianaFrom: Jane Marino <janesmarino@...>samters Sent: Tue, May 25, 2010 7:44:00 PMSubject: Re: Re: Probiotics for the sinuses

,

What is Oregosen and how much Vitamin D are you taking?

Jane

From: Ansara, (Norbord) <anthony.ansara@ norbord.com>Subject: Re: Probiotics for the sinusessamters@groups .comDate: Tuesday, May 25, 2010, 8:01 AM

Hi everyone,

Antony here, Itâ€™s been a while since my last post. I can certainly say I learn more from the group of you then anywhere else and I am very thankful for it. I had surgery Mar 18 2009 to clean out my sinus that was full of polyps.(again) It was my 5th one in 12 years. For the last 2 years I have been taking daily acidophilus and fish oils however when my sinusâ€™s flare up, I start taking an oregano based supplement. Three weeks before my surgery I took Manuka Honey 3 times per day to help break down biofilm in the sinus. Here is what I currently take daily;

Vitamin D

Vitamin C

2 capsules of Acidophilus

Fish oil

In the past, I have mentioned that I took Fungal Defense and Bio-K( Acidophilus drink). I am still taking the Fungal Defense and Oregosen when I get congestion and sinus infections however I have started to taking acidophilus in a pill form as my naturalpath has told me it allows for more absorption in the intensions as apposed to the gut.(cheaper as well)

I went to see my ENT on May 18(last week) and with the exception of 2 small polyps( on my worst side) which were too small to cut out, I am still completely clear. Unfortunately no SOS has come back but Iâ€™ll take congestion relief to SOS any day!! When I had my surgery, the first thing my ENT told me was that my Sinus was exceptionally clear and clean. No regular gunk or build up at all. I realize that what I am taking is not a cure but these supplements have definitely helps slow the rate of growth in polyps I used to have. I have been fighting them for 12 years and at each 3 month check up, I used to have 10-15 dime sized polyps cut out. One time I had one so big that I could grab it with my fingers. It almost hung out of my nose. Although I believe these supplements are very helpful, it takes awhile

to see any

benefit.

I hope this helps

May 25, 2010

Tina, I am right with you. I started eating healthier no processed foods or foods with dyes, high fructose syrup etc. It is very important to get a lot of RAW fruits and veggies in your diet too. I stopped all my Asthma Meds incl. Singulair, and all my Nasal Sprays. I only take Vitamin D 1,000, Juice Plus, and fish oil Omega 3. I drink Kefir, Good Belly, and make Juice Plus complete shakes for me and my family. I couldn't take living on all the drugs any longer. Most of the medications have synthetics and chemicals and do more damage to your body then its worth taking. Glad to hear your feeling good. Sent on the SprintÂ® Now Network from my BlackBerryÂ®From: Tiana <jonzbyz3@...>Date: Tue, 25 May 2010 20:53:45 -0700 (PDT)<samters >Subject: Re: Re: Probiotics for the sinuses I have not posted in a long time mostly because I have felt great for several months now. I eat a mostly salicylate free diet (the artificial ones), I have Kefir that I homegrow daily (major probiotic) and I take 2000 IU of D3. I had surgery in Nov. of 2008 and I have no polyp regrowth. I have not taken antibiotics or steroids since before the surgery. If I feel like I may be getting infected I take Barleans olive leaf extract. I have emptied my house of processed food and I only eat real food. Not only do I feel cured my kids did not have one single cold or virus all year. That is a huge improvement from the year before. The most amazing thing to me is that at one point I was on 6 daily meds and now I take zero. Samter's was not my only major problem which has disappeared with healthiereating. My last challenge is to lose the weight that all the steroids packed on. I hope someone else can benefit from some of these things. TianaFrom: Jane Marino <janesmarino >samters Sent: Tue, May 25, 2010 7:44:00 PMSubject: Re: Re: Probiotics for the sinuses , What is Oregosen and how much Vitamin D are you taking? JaneFrom: Ansara, (Norbord) <anthony.ansara@ norbord.com>Subject: Re: Probiotics for the sinusessamters@groups .comDate: Tuesday, May 25, 2010, 8:01 AM Hi everyone, Antony here, Itâ€™s been a while since my last post. I can certainly say I learn more from the group of you then anywhere else and I am very thankful for it. I had surgery Mar 18 2009 to clean out my sinus that was full of polyps.(again) It was my 5th one in 12 years. For the last 2 years I have been taking daily acidophilus and fish oils however when my sinusâ€™s flare up, I start taking an oregano based supplement. Three weeks before my surgery I took Manuka Honey 3 times per day to help break down biofilm in the sinus. Here is what I currently take daily; Vitamin DVitamin C2 capsules of AcidophilusFish oil In the past, I have mentioned that I took Fungal Defense and Bio-K( Acidophilus drink). I am still taking the Fungal Defense and Oregosen when I get congestion and sinus infections however I have started to taking acidophilus in a pill form as my naturalpath has told me it allows for more absorption in the intensions as apposed to the gut.(cheaper as well) I went to see my ENT on May 18(last week) and with the exception of 2 small polyps( on my worst side) which were too small to cut out, I am still completely clear. Unfortunately no SOS has come back but Iâ€™ll take congestion relief to SOS any day!! When I had my surgery, the first thing my ENT told me was that my Sinus was exceptionally clear and clean. No regular gunk or build up at all. I realize that what I am taking is not a cure but these supplements have definitely helps slow the rate of growth in polyps I used to have. I have been fighting them for 12 years and at each 3 month check up, I used to have 10-15 dime sized polyps cut out. One time I had one so big that I could grab it with my fingers. It almost hung out of my nose. Although I believe these supplements are very helpful, it takes awhileto see anybenefit. I hope this helps

May 25, 2010

I do eat alot of raw fruits and veggies. Lot's of smoothies and juicing. I can not tell express how much better I feel. I have not used my rescue inhaler in ages. I have heard lots of good things about Juice Plus. I need to give it a try. I think the Kefir was a critical component to my good health. Glad to hear it is working for you. Tiana From: "samsmom6602@..." <samsmom6602@...>samters Sent: Tue, May 25, 2010 11:13:42 PMSubject: Re: Re: Probiotics for the sinuses

Tina, I am right with you. I started eating healthier no processed foods or foods with dyes, high fructose syrup etc. It is very important to get a lot of RAW fruits and veggies in your diet too. I stopped all my Asthma Meds incl. Singulair, and all my Nasal Sprays. I only take Vitamin D 1,000, Juice Plus, and fish oil Omega 3. I drink Kefir, Good Belly, and make Juice Plus complete shakes for me and my family. I couldn't take living on all the drugs any longer. Most of the medications have synthetics and chemicals and do more damage to your body then its worth taking. Glad to hear your feeling good. Sent on the SprintÂ® Now Network from my BlackBerryÂ®From: Tiana <jonzbyz3 (DOT) com>

Date: Tue, 25 May 2010 20:53:45 -0700 (PDT)<samters@groups .com>Subject: Re: Re: Probiotics for the sinuses

I have not posted in a long time mostly because I have felt great for several months now. I eat a mostly salicylate free diet (the artificial ones), I have Kefir that I homegrow daily (major probiotic) and I take 2000 IU of D3. I had surgery in Nov. of 2008 and I have no polyp regrowth. I have not taken antibiotics or steroids since before the surgery. If I feel like I may be getting infected I take Barleans olive leaf extract. I have emptied my house of processed food and I only eat real food. Not only do I feel cured my kids did not have one single cold or virus all year. That is a huge improvement from the year before. The most amazing thing to me is that at one point I was on 6 daily meds and now I take zero. Samter's was not my only major problem which has disappeared with healthier

eating. My last challenge is to lose the weight that all the steroids packed on. I hope someone else can benefit from some of these things. TianaFrom: Jane Marino <janesmarino>samters@groups .comSent: Tue, May 25, 2010 7:44:00 PMSubject: Re: Re: Probiotics for the sinuses

,

What is Oregosen and how much Vitamin D are you taking?

Jane

From: Ansara, (Norbord) <anthony.ansara@ norbord.com>Subject: Re: Probiotics for the sinusessamters@groups .comDate: Tuesday, May 25, 2010, 8:01 AM

Hi everyone,

Antony here, Itâ€™s been a while since my last post. I can certainly say I learn more from the group of you then anywhere else and I am very thankful for it. I had surgery Mar 18 2009 to clean out my sinus that was full of polyps.(again) It was my 5th one in 12 years. For the last 2 years I have been taking daily acidophilus and fish oils however when my sinusâ€™s flare up, I start taking an oregano based supplement. Three weeks before my surgery I took Manuka Honey 3 times per day to help break down biofilm in the sinus. Here is what I currently take daily;

Vitamin D

Vitamin C

2 capsules of Acidophilus

Fish oil

In the past, I have mentioned that I took Fungal Defense and Bio-K( Acidophilus drink). I am still taking the Fungal Defense and Oregosen when I get congestion and sinus infections however I have started to taking acidophilus in a pill form as my naturalpath has told me it allows for more absorption in the intensions as apposed to the gut.(cheaper as well)

I went to see my ENT on May 18(last week) and with the exception of 2 small polyps( on my worst side) which were too small to cut out, I am still completely clear. Unfortunately no SOS has come back but Iâ€™ll take congestion relief to SOS any day!! When I had my surgery, the first thing my ENT told me was that my Sinus was exceptionally clear and clean. No regular gunk or build up at all. I realize that what I am taking is not a cure but these supplements have definitely helps slow the rate of growth in polyps I used to have. I have been fighting them for 12 years and at each 3 month check up, I used to have 10-15 dime sized polyps cut out. One time I had one so big that I could grab it with my fingers. It almost hung out of my nose. Although I believe these supplements are very helpful, it takes awhile

to see any

benefit.

I hope this helps

May 26, 2010

Iâ€™ve been on this salicylate free diet for two weeks and am

about ready to kill something.Â Itâ€™s so incredibly bland and I must lack the

imagination to put a menu together because Iâ€™m so terribly bored with it and

miss my fruit and vegetables that I used to eat so much of. Canâ€™t wait for this

four week trial to be over.

Â

Maybe some kind person in the forum could put up a few recipes?Â

(especially for someone like me who isnâ€™t all that much of a cook in the first

place Iâ€™m ashamed to admit)

From: Tiana

[mailto:jonzbyz3@...]

Sent: Wednesday, 26 May 2010 1:54 PM

samters

Subject: Re: Re: Probiotics for the sinuses

I have not posted in a long

time mostly because I have felt great for several months now. I eat a mostly

salicylate free diet (the artificial ones), I have Kefir that I homegrow daily

(major probiotic) and I take 2000 IU of D3. I had surgery in Nov. of 2008 and I

have no polyp regrowth. I have not taken antibiotics or steroids since before

the surgery. If I feel like I may be getting infected I take Barleans olive

leaf extract. I have emptied my house of processed food and I only eat real

food. Not only do I feel cured my kids did not have one single cold or virus

all year. That is a huge improvement from the year before. The most amazing

thing to me is that at one point I was on 6 daily meds and now I take

zero. Samter's was not my only major problem which has disappeared with

healthier eating. My last challenge is to lose the weight that all the steroids

packed on. I hope someone else can benefit from some of these

things. Tiana

From: Jane Marino

<janesmarino@...>

samters

Sent: Tue, May 25, 2010 7:44:00 PM

Subject: Re: Re: Probiotics for the sinuses

,

What is Oregosen and how much Vitamin D are you taking?

Jane

From: Ansara, (Norbord) <anthony.ansara@ norbord.com>

Subject: Re: Probiotics for the sinuses

samters@groups .com

Date: Tuesday, May 25, 2010, 8:01 AM

Hi everyone,

Antony here, Itâ€™s

been a while since my last post. I can certainly say I learn more from

the group of you then anywhere else and I am very thankful for it. I had

surgery Mar 18 2009 to clean out my sinus that was full of

polyps.(again) It was my 5th one in 12 years. For the

last 2 years I have been taking daily acidophilus and fish oils however when

my sinusâ€™s flare up, I start taking an oregano based supplement. Three

weeks before my surgery I took Manuka Honey 3 times per day to help break

down biofilm in the sinus. Here is what I currently take daily;

Vitamin D

Vitamin C

2 capsules of

Acidophilus

Fish oil

In the past, I have

mentioned that I took Fungal Defense and Bio-K( Acidophilus drink). I

am still taking the Fungal Defense and Oregosen when I get congestion and

sinus infections however I have started to taking acidophilus in a pill

form as my naturalpath has told me it allows for more absorption in the

intensions as apposed to the gut.(cheaper as well)

I went to see my

ENT on May 18(last week) and with the exception of 2 small polyps( on my

worst side) which were too small to cut out, I am still completely

clear. Unfortunately no SOS has come back but Iâ€™ll take congestion

relief to SOS any day!! When I had my surgery, the first thing my ENT

told me was that my Sinus was exceptionally clear and clean. No regular

gunk or build up at all. I realize that what I am taking is not a cure

but these supplements have definitely helps slow the rate of growth in polyps

I used to have. I have been fighting them for 12 years and at each 3

month check up, I used to have 10-15 dime sized polyps cut out. One

time I had one so big that I could grab it with my fingers. It almost

hung out of my nose. Although I believe these supplements are very

helpful, it takes awhile to see any benefit.

I hope this helps

May 26, 2010

The Kefir and Good Belly also helped me a lot. I try to stay away from coffee, but I still do have 1 cup in the AM to wake up, and it doesn't seem to bother me. Also, as I have mentioned before the Juice Plus has done wonders for me and my family. There is a lot of information on the clinical research studies and doctors speaking about it you can go to www.jenrjuiceplus.com for more info. Changing you diet and better nutrition really helps in many ways. Sent on the SprintÂ® Now Network from my BlackBerryÂ®From: Tiana <jonzbyz3@...>Date: Tue, 25 May 2010 21:19:32 -0700 (PDT)<samters >Subject: Re: Re: Probiotics for the sinuses I do eat alot of raw fruits and veggies. Lot's of smoothies and juicing. I can not tell express how much better I feel. I have not used my rescue inhaler in ages. I have heard lots of good things about Juice Plus. I need to give it a try. I think the Kefir was a critical component to my good health. Glad to hear it is working for you. Tiana From: "samsmom6602 " <samsmom6602 >samters Sent: Tue, May 25, 2010 11:13:42 PMSubject: Re: Re: Probiotics for the sinuses Tina, I am right with you. I started eating healthier no processed foods or foods with dyes, high fructose syrup etc. It is very important to get a lot of RAW fruits and veggies in your diet too. I stopped all my Asthma Meds incl. Singulair, and all my Nasal Sprays. I only take Vitamin D 1,000, Juice Plus, and fish oil Omega 3. I drink Kefir, Good Belly, and make Juice Plus complete shakes for me and my family. I couldn't take living on all the drugs any longer. Most of the medications have synthetics and chemicals and do more damage to your body then its worth taking. Glad to hear your feeling good. Sent on the SprintÂ® Now Network from my BlackBerryÂ®From: Tiana <jonzbyz3 (DOT) com>Date: Tue, 25 May 2010 20:53:45 -0700 (PDT)<samters@groups .com>Subject: Re: Re: Probiotics for the sinuses I have not posted in a long time mostly because I have felt great for several months now. I eat a mostly salicylate free diet (the artificial ones), I have Kefir that I homegrow daily (major probiotic) and I take 2000 IU of D3. I had surgery in Nov. of 2008 and I have no polyp regrowth. I have not taken antibiotics or steroids since before the surgery. If I feel like I may be getting infected I take Barleans olive leaf extract. I have emptied my house of processed food and I only eat real food. Not only do I feel cured my kids did not have one single cold or virus all year. That is a huge improvement from the year before. The most amazing thing to me is that at one point I was on 6 daily meds and now I take zero. Samter's was not my only major problem which has disappeared with healthiereating. My last challenge is to lose the weight that all the steroids packed on. I hope someone else can benefit from some of these things. TianaFrom: Jane Marino <janesmarino>samters@groups .comSent: Tue, May 25, 2010 7:44:00 PMSubject: Re: Re: Probiotics for the sinuses , What is Oregosen and how much Vitamin D are you taking? JaneFrom: Ansara, (Norbord) <anthony.ansara@ norbord.com>Subject: Re: Probiotics for the sinusessamters@groups .comDate: Tuesday, May 25, 2010, 8:01 AM Hi everyone, Antony here, Itâ€™s been a while since my last post. I can certainly say I learn more from the group of you then anywhere else and I am very thankful for it. I had surgery Mar 18 2009 to clean out my sinus that was full of polyps.(again) It was my 5th one in 12 years. For the last 2 years I have been taking daily acidophilus and fish oils however when my sinusâ€™s flare up, I start taking an oregano based supplement. Three weeks before my surgery I took Manuka Honey 3 times per day to help break down biofilm in the sinus. Here is what I currently take daily; Vitamin DVitamin C2 capsules of AcidophilusFish oil In the past, I have mentioned that I took Fungal Defense and Bio-K( Acidophilus drink). I am still taking the Fungal Defense and Oregosen when I get congestion and sinus infections however I have started to taking acidophilus in a pill form as my naturalpath has told me it allows for more absorption in the intensions as apposed to the gut.(cheaper as well) I went to see my ENT on May 18(last week) and with the exception of 2 small polyps( on my worst side) which were too small to cut out, I am still completely clear. Unfortunately no SOS has come back but Iâ€™ll take congestion relief to SOS any day!! When I had my surgery, the first thing my ENT told me was that my Sinus was exceptionally clear and clean. No regular gunk or build up at all. I realize that what I am taking is not a cure but these supplements have definitely helps slow the rate of growth in polyps I used to have. I have been fighting them for 12 years and at each 3 month check up, I used to have 10-15 dime sized polyps cut out. One time I had one so big that I could grab it with my fingers. It almost hung out of my nose. Although I believe these supplements are very helpful, it takes awhileto see anybenefit. I hope this helps

May 26, 2010

Hi Tiana and ,

This is wonderful to hear that you have both managed to finda way to dramatically improve your health.

Tiana, i am really interested to know how you continue to eat healthily and not take meds. i am having to reduce my aspirin intake very soon as I'm having my 2nd sinus surgery in 10 years. There is a big part of me that wants to take a break from aspirin for a while. An even bigger part of me that would LOVE to be med free. I guess this is genuinely possible if one sticks to a strict sal free diet?

I would be incredibly grateful if you could do a typical food diary for 1 week or so, so I can see what food you are actually able to eat and what meals you make. I am a fairly good cook and prepared to make my own meals. I do tend to avoid processed food, but would find it very hard to give up my daily mug of freshly ground coffee, and fruits/berries, plus the odd glass of wine that I am able to drink now I am desens.

Also how/where do you get kefir and how do you grow it?

Is Barleans olivce leaf extract not high in salycilates?

What is it about vit D3 that is so good for us?

Sorry for all these questions, but they are genuine Your way of living sounds like it needs a high level of commitment, but I think I could do it?!

Regards

Becky

From: Tiana <jonzbyz3@...>samters Sent: Wed, 26 May, 2010 4:53:45Subject: Re: Re: Probiotics for the sinuses

I have not posted in a long time mostly because I have felt great for several months now. I eat a mostly salicylate free diet (the artificial ones), I have Kefir that I homegrow daily (major probiotic) and I take 2000 IU of D3. I had surgery in Nov. of 2008 and I have no polyp regrowth. I have not taken antibiotics or steroids since before the surgery. If I feel like I may be getting infected I take Barleans olive leaf extract. I have emptied my house of processed food and I only eat real food. Not only do I feel cured my kids did not have one single cold or virus all year. That is a huge improvement from the year before. The most amazing thing to me is that at one point I was on 6 daily meds and now I take zero. Samter's was not my only major problem which has disappeared with healthier eating. My last challenge is to lose the weight that all the steroids packed on. I hope someone else can benefit from some of these things.

Tiana

From: Jane Marino <janesmarino>samters@groups .comSent: Tue, May 25, 2010 7:44:00 PMSubject: Re: Re: Probiotics for the sinuses

,

What is Oregosen and how much Vitamin D are you taking?

Jane

From: Ansara, (Norbord) <anthony.ansara@ norbord.com>Subject: Re: Probiotics for the sinusessamters@groups .comDate: Tuesday, May 25, 2010, 8:01 AM

Hi everyone,

Antony here, Itâ€™s been a while since my last post. I can certainly say I learn more from the group of you then anywhere else and I am very thankful for it. I had surgery Mar 18 2009 to clean out my sinus that was full of polyps.(again) It was my 5th one in 12 years. For the last 2 years I have been taking daily acidophilus and fish oils however when my sinusâ€™s flare up, I start taking an oregano based supplement. Three weeks before my surgery I took Manuka Honey 3 times per day to help break down biofilm in the sinus. Here is what I currently take daily;

Vitamin D

Vitamin C

2 capsules of Acidophilus

Fish oil

In the past, I have mentioned that I took Fungal Defense and Bio-K( Acidophilus drink). I am still taking the Fungal Defense and Oregosen when I get congestion and sinus infections however I have started to taking acidophilus in a pill form as my naturalpath has told me it allows for more absorption in the intensions as apposed to the gut.(cheaper as well)

I went to see my ENT on May 18(last week) and with the exception of 2 small polyps( on my worst side) which were too small to cut out, I am still completely clear. Unfortunately no SOS has come back but Iâ€™ll take congestion relief to SOS any day!! When I had my surgery, the first thing my ENT told me was that my Sinus was exceptionally clear and clean. No regular gunk or build up at all. I realize that what I am taking is not a cure but these supplements have definitely helps slow the rate of growth in polyps I used to have. I have been fighting them for 12 years and at each 3 month check up, I used to have 10-15 dime sized polyps cut out. One time I had one so big that I could grab it with my fingers. It almost hung out of my nose. Although I believe these supplements are very helpful, it takes awhile to see any

benefit.

I hope this helps

May 26, 2010

Is juiceplus not high in salycilates? And is it not so necessary if ones diet is already high in fruit and veggies?

Regards

Becky

From: "samsmom6602@..." <samsmom6602@...>samters Sent: Wed, 26 May, 2010 12:30:39Subject: Re: Re: Probiotics for the sinuses

The Kefir and Good Belly also helped me a lot. I try to stay away from coffee, but I still do have 1 cup in the AM to wake up, and it doesn't seem to bother me. Also, as I have mentioned before the Juice Plus has done wonders for me and my family. There is a lot of information on the clinical research studies and doctors speaking about it you can go to www.jenrjuiceplus. com for more info. Changing you diet and better nutrition really helps in many ways. Sent on the SprintÂ® Now Network from my BlackBerryÂ®

From: Tiana <jonzbyz3 (DOT) com>

Date: Tue, 25 May 2010 21:19:32 -0700 (PDT)

<samters@groups .com>

Subject: Re: Re: Probiotics for the sinuses

I do eat alot of raw fruits and veggies. Lot's of smoothies and juicing. I can not tell express how much better I feel. I have not used my rescue inhaler in ages. I have heard lots of good things about Juice Plus. I need to give it a try. I think the Kefir was a critical component to my good health. Glad to hear it is working for you. Tiana

From: "samsmom6602" <samsmom6602>samters@groups .comSent: Tue, May 25, 2010 11:13:42 PMSubject: Re: Re: Probiotics for the sinuses

Tina, I am right with you. I started eating healthier no processed foods or foods with dyes, high fructose syrup etc. It is very important to get a lot of RAW fruits and veggies in your diet too. I stopped all my Asthma Meds incl. Singulair, and all my Nasal Sprays. I only take Vitamin D 1,000, Juice Plus, and fish oil Omega 3. I drink Kefir, Good Belly, and make Juice Plus complete shakes for me and my family. I couldn't take living on all the drugs any longer. Most of the medications have synthetics and chemicals and do more damage to your body then its worth taking. Glad to hear your feeling good.

Sent on the SprintÂ® Now Network from my BlackBerryÂ®

From: Tiana <jonzbyz3 (DOT) com>

Date: Tue, 25 May 2010 20:53:45 -0700 (PDT)

<samters@groups .com>

Subject: Re: Re: Probiotics for the sinuses

I have not posted in a long time mostly because I have felt great for several months now. I eat a mostly salicylate free diet (the artificial ones), I have Kefir that I homegrow daily (major probiotic) and I take 2000 IU of D3. I had surgery in Nov. of 2008 and I have no polyp regrowth. I have not taken antibiotics or steroids since before the surgery. If I feel like I may be getting infected I take Barleans olive leaf extract. I have emptied my house of processed food and I only eat real food. Not only do I feel cured my kids did not have one single cold or virus all year. That is a huge improvement from the year before. The most amazing thing to me is that at one point I was on 6 daily meds and now I take zero. Samter's was not my only major problem which has disappeared with healthier eating. My last challenge is to lose the weight that all the steroids packed on. I hope someone else can benefit from some of these things.

Tiana

From: Jane Marino <janesmarino>samters@groups .comSent: Tue, May 25, 2010 7:44:00 PMSubject: Re: Re: Probiotics for the sinuses

,

What is Oregosen and how much Vitamin D are you taking?

Jane

From: Ansara, (Norbord) <anthony.ansara@ norbord.com>Subject: Re: Probiotics for the sinusessamters@groups .comDate: Tuesday, May 25, 2010, 8:01 AM

Hi everyone,

Antony here, Itâ€™s been a while since my last post. I can certainly say I learn more from the group of you then anywhere else and I am very thankful for it. I had surgery Mar 18 2009 to clean out my sinus that was full of polyps.(again) It was my 5th one in 12 years. For the last 2 years I have been taking daily acidophilus and fish oils however when my sinusâ€™s flare up, I start taking an oregano based supplement. Three weeks before my surgery I took Manuka Honey 3 times per day to help break down biofilm in the sinus. Here is what I currently take daily;

Vitamin D

Vitamin C

2 capsules of Acidophilus

Fish oil

In the past, I have mentioned that I took Fungal Defense and Bio-K( Acidophilus drink). I am still taking the Fungal Defense and Oregosen when I get congestion and sinus infections however I have started to taking acidophilus in a pill form as my naturalpath has told me it allows for more absorption in the intensions as apposed to the gut.(cheaper as well)

I went to see my ENT on May 18(last week) and with the exception of 2 small polyps( on my worst side) which were too small to cut out, I am still completely clear. Unfortunately no SOS has come back but Iâ€™ll take congestion relief to SOS any day!! When I had my surgery, the first thing my ENT told me was that my Sinus was exceptionally clear and clean. No regular gunk or build up at all. I realize that what I am taking is not a cure but these supplements have definitely helps slow the rate of growth in polyps I used to have. I have been fighting them for 12 years and at each 3 month check up, I used to have 10-15 dime sized polyps cut out. One time I had one so big that I could grab it with my fingers. It almost hung out of my nose. Although I believe these supplements are very helpful, it takes awhile to see any

benefit.

I hope this helps

May 26, 2010

If you get 7 - 12 servings of RAW fruits and veggies in your diet per day then you wouldn't need Juice Plus. The American Cancer Society and Heart Association amongst others say that you need 7 - 12 servings RAW fruits and veggies per day to prevent and help treat diseases. The nutrients you find in a variety of fresh fruits and veggies you can't get from anything else. Juice plus is not high in salycilates. Juice Plus helps you get the nutrients you lack from a variety on fruits and veggies. It also backs what it claims with the double blind clinical research studies. Sent on the SprintÂ® Now Network from my BlackBerryÂ®From: Bannister <beckyb256@...>Date: Wed, 26 May 2010 11:47:22 +0000 (GMT)<samters >Subject: Re: Re: Probiotics for the sinuses Is juiceplus not high in salycilates? And is it not so necessary if ones diet is already high in fruit and veggies? RegardsBeckyFrom: "samsmom6602 " <samsmom6602 >samters Sent: Wed, 26 May, 2010 12:30:39Subject: Re: Re: Probiotics for the sinuses The Kefir and Good Belly also helped me a lot. I try to stay away from coffee, but I still do have 1 cup in the AM to wake up, and it doesn't seem to bother me. Also, as I have mentioned before the Juice Plus has done wonders for me and my family. There is a lot of information on the clinical research studies and doctors speaking about it you can go to www.jenrjuiceplus. com for more info. Changing you diet and better nutrition really helps in many ways. Sent on the SprintÂ® Now Network from my BlackBerryÂ®From: Tiana <jonzbyz3 (DOT) com> Date: Tue, 25 May 2010 21:19:32 -0700 (PDT)<samters@groups .com>Subject: Re: Re: Probiotics for the sinuses I do eat alot of raw fruits and veggies. Lot's of smoothies and juicing. I can not tell express how much better I feel. I have not used my rescue inhaler in ages. I have heard lots of good things about Juice Plus. I need to give it a try. I think the Kefir was a critical component to my good health. Glad to hear it is working for you. Tiana From: "samsmom6602" <samsmom6602>samters@groups .comSent: Tue, May 25, 2010 11:13:42 PMSubject: Re: Re: Probiotics for the sinuses Tina, I am right with you. I started eating healthier no processed foods or foods with dyes, high fructose syrup etc. It is very important to get a lot of RAW fruits and veggies in your diet too. I stopped all my Asthma Meds incl. Singulair, and all my Nasal Sprays. I only take Vitamin D 1,000, Juice Plus, and fish oil Omega 3. I drink Kefir, Good Belly, and make Juice Plus complete shakes for me and my family. I couldn't take living on all the drugs any longer. Most of the medications have synthetics and chemicals and do more damage to your body then its worth taking. Glad to hear your feeling good. Sent on the SprintÂ® Now Network from my BlackBerryÂ®From: Tiana <jonzbyz3 (DOT) com> Date: Tue, 25 May 2010 20:53:45 -0700 (PDT)<samters@groups .com>Subject: Re: Re: Probiotics for the sinuses I have not posted in a long time mostly because I have felt great for several months now. I eat a mostly salicylate free diet (the artificial ones), I have Kefir that I homegrow daily (major probiotic) and I take 2000 IU of D3. I had surgery in Nov. of 2008 and I have no polyp regrowth. I have not taken antibiotics or steroids since before the surgery. If I feel like I may be getting infected I take Barleans olive leaf extract. I have emptied my house of processed food and I only eat real food. Not only do I feel cured my kids did not have one single cold or virus all year. That is a huge improvement from the year before. The most amazing thing to me is that at one point I was on 6 daily meds and now I take zero. Samter's was not my only major problem which has disappeared with healthier eating. My last challenge is to lose the weight that all the steroids packed on. I hope someone else can benefit from some of these things. TianaFrom: Jane Marino <janesmarino>samters@groups .comSent: Tue, May 25, 2010 7:44:00 PMSubject: Re: Re: Probiotics for the sinuses , What is Oregosen and how much Vitamin D are you taking? JaneFrom: Ansara, (Norbord) <anthony.ansara@ norbord.com>Subject: Re: Probiotics for the sinusessamters@groups .comDate: Tuesday, May 25, 2010, 8:01 AM Hi everyone, Antony here, Itâ€™s been a while since my last post. I can certainly say I learn more from the group of you then anywhere else and I am very thankful for it. I had surgery Mar 18 2009 to clean out my sinus that was full of polyps.(again) It was my 5th one in 12 years. For the last 2 years I have been taking daily acidophilus and fish oils however when my sinusâ€™s flare up, I start taking an oregano based supplement. Three weeks before my surgery I took Manuka Honey 3 times per day to help break down biofilm in the sinus. Here is what I currently take daily; Vitamin D Vitamin C 2 capsules of Acidophilus Fish oil In the past, I have mentioned that I took Fungal Defense and Bio-K( Acidophilus drink). I am still taking the Fungal Defense and Oregosen when I get congestion and sinus infections however I have started to taking acidophilus in a pill form as my naturalpath has told me it allows for more absorption in the intensions as apposed to the gut.(cheaper as well) I went to see my ENT on May 18(last week) and with the exception of 2 small polyps( on my worst side) which were too small to cut out, I am still completely clear. Unfortunately no SOS has come back but Iâ€™ll take congestion relief to SOS any day!! When I had my surgery, the first thing my ENT told me was that my Sinus was exceptionally clear and clean. No regular gunk or build up at all. I realize that what I am taking is not a cure but these supplements have definitely helps slow the rate of growth in polyps I used to have. I have been fighting them for 12 years and at each 3 month check up, I used to have 10-15 dime sized polyps cut out. One time I had one so big that I could grab it with my fingers. It almost hung out of my nose. Although I believe these supplements are very helpful, it takes awhile to see anybenefit. I hope this helps

May 26, 2010

Unfortunately because of the high content of salicylates in so

many fruits and vegetables, I canâ€™t have them nor any fruit/vegetable juices.

From:

samsmom6602@... [mailto:samsmom6602@...]

Sent: Wednesday, 26 May 2010 10:13 PM

samters

Subject: Re: Re: Probiotics for the sinuses

If you get 7 - 12 servings of RAW fruits and veggies in your diet per day

then you wouldn't need Juice Plus.

The American Cancer Society and Heart Association amongst others say that you

need 7 - 12 servings RAW fruits and veggies per day to prevent and help treat

diseases. The nutrients you find in a variety of fresh fruits and veggies you

can't get from anything else. Juice plus is not high in salycilates. Juice Plus

helps you get the nutrients you lack from a variety on fruits and veggies. It

also backs what it claims with the double blind clinical research studies.

Sent on the SprintÂ® Now Network from my BlackBerryÂ®

From: Bannister <beckyb256@...>

Date: Wed, 26 May 2010 11:47:22 +0000 (GMT)

Subject: Re: Re: Probiotics for the sinuses

Is juiceplus not high in salycilates? And is it not so

necessary if ones diet is already high in fruit and veggies?

Regards

Becky

From: " samsmom6602@... "

<samsmom6602@...>

samters

Sent: Wed, 26 May, 2010 12:30:39

Subject: Re: Re: Probiotics for the sinuses

The Kefir and Good Belly also helped me a lot. I try to stay away from

coffee, but I still do have 1 cup in the AM to wake up, and it doesn't seem to

bother me. Also, as I have mentioned before the Juice Plus has done wonders for

me and my family. There is a lot of information on the clinical research

studies and doctors speaking about it you can go to www.jenrjuiceplus. com for

more info.

Changing you diet and better nutrition really helps in many ways.

Sent on the SprintÂ® Now Network from my BlackBerryÂ®

From: Tiana <jonzbyz3 (DOT) com>

Date: Tue, 25 May 2010 21:19:32 -0700 (PDT)

<samters@groups .com>

Subject: Re: Re: Probiotics for the sinuses

I do eat alot of raw fruits

and veggies. Lot's of smoothies and juicing. I can not tell express how much

better I feel. I have not used my rescue inhaler in ages. I have heard

lots of good things about Juice Plus. I need to give it a try. I think

the Kefir was a critical component to my good health. Glad to hear it is

working for you. Tiana

From: " samsmom6602@

" <samsmom6602>

samters@groups .com

Sent: Tue, May 25, 2010 11:13:42 PM

Subject: Re: Re: Probiotics for the sinuses

Tina,

I am right with you. I started eating healthier no processed foods or foods

with dyes, high fructose syrup etc. It is very important to get a lot of RAW

fruits and veggies in your diet too. I stopped all my Asthma Meds incl.

Singulair, and all my Nasal Sprays. I only take Vitamin D 1,000, Juice Plus,

and fish oil Omega 3. I drink Kefir, Good Belly, and make Juice Plus complete

shakes for me and my family.

I couldn't take living on all the drugs any longer. Most of the medications have

synthetics and chemicals and do more damage to your body then its worth taking.

Glad to hear your feeling good.