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Tami, that is what they told me at Scripps, as a matter of fact.

Whether it is true or not, I do not know. Can't tell for sure with

me -- I took an NSAID once in 1989 while on the tube in London --

got off at the next stop in severe respiratory distress and there

must have been some angel at work because it was the stop for the

National Lung and Heart Institute in London!

Next time I took it I had a similar reaction but maybe a little

worse -- the nose and eyes were much more involved. Then the times

I took it at Scripps, which was two times desensitized, were pretty

bad except they dosed me with meds pretty much right away so it

never was allowed to get that horrible.

Lori

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> Lori,

> Is it true that with each subsequent allergic reaction, that it

gets worse? It seemed that way with me.

> Tami

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> Re: Aspirin Desensitization

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> I have said it many times before :) but I always have to say it

> again: I do not recommend aspirin desensitization at home,

> ESPECIALLY if you have had bad reactions and/or are afraid of

doing

> it. I am convinced I would die the next time I took aspirin on

my

> own. I almost did the first times I took it before I knew I was

> allergic. Actually it wasn't even aspirin, it was ibuprofen.

>

> My reaction in the hospital desensitization both times I did it

in

> 1995 and 1998 was pretty severe but because I was at Scripps I

felt

> safe.

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> Not everyone can do this safely. It really depends upon your

own

> knowledge of your reaction to aspirin from the past -- which CAN

> change from one time to the next and is not completely

predictable.

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> I am glad we have the info in the library for those who do wish

to

> try it, but I always think it is a last resort and something I

> personally would never, ever try.

>

> Lori in NY

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tami

i'm not an expert on this by any means, but here is what i understood

when i went through desensitization. typical samters reaction is not

anaphalysis (spelling?) but rather nasal, ocular, pharynx, and

asthamtic (for some.) with this, each time the body is exposed to the

same dosage of aspirin, the reaction will become less and less severe.

with anaphalysis, the reaction will become MORE severe at the same

dose. I think that's why some people aren't candidates for

desensitization. I remember that Dr Bosso watched us like hawks during

our second dose - to make sure that the reaction was indeed less,

rather than more, severe.

hope this helps, and someone please clarify if i'm wrong!

jl

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> Lori,

> Is it true that with each subsequent allergic reaction, that it gets

worse? It seemed that way with me.

> Tami

>

> Re: Aspirin Desensitization

>

>

> I have said it many times before :) but I always have to say it

> again: I do not recommend aspirin desensitization at home,

> ESPECIALLY if you have had bad reactions and/or are afraid of doing

> it. I am convinced I would die the next time I took aspirin on my

> own. I almost did the first times I took it before I knew I was

> allergic. Actually it wasn't even aspirin, it was ibuprofen.

>

> My reaction in the hospital desensitization both times I did it in

> 1995 and 1998 was pretty severe but because I was at Scripps I felt

> safe.

>

> Not everyone can do this safely. It really depends upon your own

> knowledge of your reaction to aspirin from the past -- which CAN

> change from one time to the next and is not completely predictable.

>

> I am glad we have the info in the library for those who do wish to

> try it, but I always think it is a last resort and something I

> personally would never, ever try.

>

> Lori in NY

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I think I could clarify here -- during desensitization you do take a

second dose of the same amount and that is how you become

desensitized, as said.

But I thought what Tami was asking, and what I was referring to, was

when you take aspirin but are NOT desensitized, and then take it

again another time while not being desensitized, is your reaction

worse that time. And at Scripps they told me, yes, it would be

worse. Therefore each time I would get desensitized, the initial

reaction could potentially be worse. Or if you accidentally took it

or didn't realize (as in my case) after the first time that you were

allergic/sensitive.

I do get anaphylactic shock from aspirin, but, no, my reaction did

not become worse on the second dosage from each level of the

aspirin. The anaphylactic shock was at the very first dosage. I

did have a more severe reaction than most people with Samters, or so

they told me at Scripps.

Anaphylactic shock or anaphylaxis has these symptoms:

respiratory distress,

hypotension (low blood pressure),

fainting,

unconsciousness,

urticaria (hives),

flushed appearance,

angioedema (swelling of the face, neck and throat),

tears (due to angioedema and stress),

vomiting,

itching, and

anxiety, including a sense of impending doom

I got the respiratory distress, hypotension, urticaria, flushed

appearance, swelling of the face, neck and throat, tears, vomiting,

itching and anxiety along with a lot of nasal symptoms and nausea,

but I did not faint or become unconscious.

I have never ever heard of some people not being candidates for

desensitization. At Bosso's office they do not desensitize the most

severe because it is not inpatient. That's what they told me when I

was at Dr. Bosso's. I never got desensitized at Bosso's by choice,

but they did receive my records from Scripps and I did not hear

whether it was okay for me to be desensitized in the office or not.

Hope this clarifies a bit more. :)

Lori

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ah! Dr Bosso told me the same thing. Each time the reaction would be

worse. Also, if you discontinue with aspirin, and then decide to go

through desensitization again, the reaction during the procedure could

be worse.

I completely agree with you about attempting desensitization alone -

it seems like a very unsafe thing to do. especially if you live more

than 5 minutes away from a hospital. You just never know how your body

is going to react.

jennifer

>

> I think I could clarify here -- during desensitization you do take a

> second dose of the same amount and that is how you become

> desensitized, as said.

>

> But I thought what Tami was asking, and what I was referring to, was

> when you take aspirin but are NOT desensitized, and then take it

> again another time while not being desensitized, is your reaction

> worse that time. And at Scripps they told me, yes, it would be

> worse. Therefore each time I would get desensitized, the initial

> reaction could potentially be worse. Or if you accidentally took it

> or didn't realize (as in my case) after the first time that you were

> allergic/sensitive.

>

> I do get anaphylactic shock from aspirin, but, no, my reaction did

> not become worse on the second dosage from each level of the

> aspirin. The anaphylactic shock was at the very first dosage. I

> did have a more severe reaction than most people with Samters, or so

> they told me at Scripps.

>

> Anaphylactic shock or anaphylaxis has these symptoms:

>

> respiratory distress,

> hypotension (low blood pressure),

> fainting,

> unconsciousness,

> urticaria (hives),

> flushed appearance,

> angioedema (swelling of the face, neck and throat),

> tears (due to angioedema and stress),

> vomiting,

> itching, and

> anxiety, including a sense of impending doom

>

> I got the respiratory distress, hypotension, urticaria, flushed

> appearance, swelling of the face, neck and throat, tears, vomiting,

> itching and anxiety along with a lot of nasal symptoms and nausea,

> but I did not faint or become unconscious.

>

> I have never ever heard of some people not being candidates for

> desensitization. At Bosso's office they do not desensitize the most

> severe because it is not inpatient. That's what they told me when I

> was at Dr. Bosso's. I never got desensitized at Bosso's by choice,

> but they did receive my records from Scripps and I did not hear

> whether it was okay for me to be desensitized in the office or not.

>

> Hope this clarifies a bit more. :)

>

> Lori

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Hi, just wondering if anyone has been told that they were an unsuitable

candidate for aspirin desensitization? I had a fairly severe allergic reaction

to 30 mg of aspirin on day 1 of the protocol. If so, what did you do? I do not

want to give up so quickly on this therapy. I would appreciate any advice.

Thanks. Lori in St. Louis, MO

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Oh yes, I forgot the polyps! How could I forget - 5 surgeries to date.

samters From: darciecoe@...Date: Thu, 8 Sep 2011 12:01:26 -0700Subject: Re: Aspirin Desensitization

Hi . Were you reacting to most foods(salicylate containing or related)? How were you diagnosed with Samter's? The reason I ask is because Samter's, by definition, includes asthma.

Thanks, Rob.

From: <skydancer1@...>samters Sent: Thursday, September 8, 2011 11:01 AMSubject: RE: Aspirin Desensitization

I had aspirin desens recently and it has made a huge difference in my symptoms. No more runny noses, sneezing, itchy ears, which was a daily issue. I sleep much better. (asthma was never a problem). Started on 1300 mgs/day, after a month went down to 625/day. Feeling pretty good so far, other than a chronic sinus infection which was there before the desens. Being treated for that. Aspririn desens worked so far for me, will have to wait for the long term effects.There is a huge amount of info on this board re aspirin desens, you should search.

> samters > From: annboucher@...> Date: Thu, 8 Sep 2011 16:44:56 +0000> Subject: Aspirin Desensitization> > Has anyone in the group gone through aspirin desensitization? If so, are> you taking aspirin to control the symptoms, currently? Is it working? > Do you notice a significant improvement?> > > > ------------------------------------> >

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