Re: Tylenol/Motrin for fever

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At 06:09 PM 09/02/1999 EDT, you wrote:

>From: DaniMart@...

>

>I'm glad this subject is going around. My 17 month old son is running a

>pretty low grade fever. Hasn't been higher than 100.7 for about 36 hours or

>so. I haven't given him anything for it. He isn't acting like he feels bad.

> What I am wondering about is a few things. First, could the fever be caused

>by his thrush which is starting to come out in a pimply diaper rash? And is

>it ok that he isn't drinking from his cup? Also what is belladonna?

>TIA

>Dani

>

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Dani,

I don't know about thrush or belladona but I do know it's very important that he

drinks. He needs lots of fluids or could suffer from dehydration.

Seb.

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In a message dated 9/2/99 6:30:49 PM Eastern Daylight Time, DaniMart@...

writes:

> I know realize what everyone is saying that a high fever kills the

> germs and such. It really makes sense, but at what point do you say its

> high

> enough, I need to try something else. My daughter would get fevers as

high

> as 105 on a thermometer that I know worked fine.

> Dani

I don't believe that there is a point at which you say " high enough " . You

should go by how the child feels. When our daughter got Roseola at about 7

or 8 months old, she was running fevers so high you could fry an egg on her

head, especially in the middle of the night. This lasted for about 4 days.

I think on 2 or 3 occasions we gave her Tylenol during the night because she

was having trouble sleeping. We rarely took her temperature and she did not

seem sick at all except that she had much less energy. I am glad that she

went through this illness. as I feel that it was good for her system. We

called the doctor after the 2nd or 3rd day, but they told us that Roseola was

going around our area and to call back in a couple of days if there was no

improvement. Once we realized that it was Roseola, I did a little research

and found out that this disease is caused by a Herpes virus. I'm sure it is

just a matter of time before they develope a vaccine for this as well.

Cory

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In a message dated 9/2/99 6:32:38 PM Eastern Daylight Time, DaniMart@...

writes:

> << I have always been told that tylenol is toxic to the liver depending on

> dosage/size of person. >>

> I was once told that it would take a baby taking a LOT of tylenol before

> they

> would OD on it. Is this the same thing you are talking about?

> Dani

Something does not need to kill you to be toxic. Many drugs are broken down

by our liver and this exacts a toll over time.

Cory

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In a message dated 9/2/99 9:45:33 PM Eastern Daylight Time, DaniMart@...

writes:

> I forgot to mention he is still nursing and has upped his

> sessions by about 4 in the past 48 hours. I was just wondering if it was

> necessary that he also drank from his cup?

> Dani

You are not mentioning what he is not drinking from his cup. Vodka? Gin?

Chocolate milk shake?

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<< I was once told that it would take a baby taking a LOT of tylenol before

they

would OD on it. Is this the same thing you are talking about? >>

Tylenol has a very narrow margin of safety. Just a small amount more than

the recommended dose could be fatal. Also, intentional overdosing on Tylenol

is disastrous. It was once done by a teen locally as an attention getting

ploy. She never lived to tell about it.

Suzanne

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Dani: Again, this is what docs think because they don't know about

natural health. Yes, it would take alot at once to fatally OD, or alot

over time maybe to even do liver damage, BUT as someone else said, our

liver digests ALL the junk we breathe, eat, everything. It acts as the

oil filter for the body. Just like on your car, if it gets too clogged

up with junk, it starts failing to function and the toxins start to

spill over directly into your blood stream, etc. Which then starts other

problems. So you want to try to keep the least amount of junk that you

can from entering in the first place, and this includes OTC's. You want

to use natural meds that help filter the body or at least don't continue

to add to clogging it. Just as you did with your last birth, you have to

get out of the " conventional mindset " of " a little of this is ok, even

lots of that is still ok " , and start looking at the body as a fragile

eco-system that needs to be taken care of. As with so much of conv med,

just because the pharm mfgs say " so many doses in so many hours is ok "

doesn't mean it's totally harmless.

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In a message dated 09/03/1999 12:57:35 AM Central Daylight Time,

SFwwjd4u@... writes:

<<

Tylenol has a very narrow margin of safety. Just a small amount more than

the recommended dose could be fatal. Also, intentional overdosing on

Tylenol

is disastrous. It was once done by a teen locally as an attention getting

ploy. She never lived to tell about it.

Suzanne >>

I know I said this before,but Dr.Sears says that a baby would have to take

*15 times* the recommended dose for it to even make him sick...that seems so

contrary to the above...I am not saying Dr.Sears is right but it does seem as

if he would know about that,you know?

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In a message dated 9/2/99 10:18:18 PM CST, Cmermer@... writes:

<< I forgot to mention he is still nursing and has upped his

> sessions by about 4 in the past 48 hours. I was just wondering if it was

> necessary that he also drank from his cup?

> Dani

You are not mentioning what he is not drinking from his cup. Vodka? Gin?

Chocolate milk shake? >>

What?? Juice and rice milk.

Dani

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In a message dated 9/3/99 2:35:55 PM Eastern Daylight Time, DaniMart@...

writes:

> In a message dated 9/2/99 10:18:18 PM CST, Cmermer@... writes:

>

> << I forgot to mention he is still nursing and has upped his

> > sessions by about 4 in the past 48 hours. I was just wondering if it

was

> > necessary that he also drank from his cup?

> > Dani

>

> You are not mentioning what he is not drinking from his cup. Vodka? Gin?

> Chocolate milk shake? >>

>

> What?? Juice and rice milk.

> Dani

There was a big debate about this topic a while back but I will just say that

water is the best and most important fluid to drink. We give our 2 1/2 yr

old very, very diluted juice on occasion as a treat but that's all. Both

juice and rice milk are loaded with sugar and are not the best, especially

when sick.

Cory

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I just can't imagine giving any baby or child " 15 times " the dosage of

" any " OTC before it would make them sick. That still seems like way too

much of anything, I don't care how safe they say it is.