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>>>Please try again. The web is up. there is too much info for me to send.

Try

>>>to get a friend to help you. Why are you interested?

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>>>At 03:41 PM 6/9/99 -0600, you wrote:

>>>>Dear sir,

>>>>I am interested in any information including research on the Hib

vaccine.

>>I

>>>>attempted to download the following but could not access the server.

>>Please

>>>>send me a copy.

>>>>

>>>>Bart Classen wrote:

>>>>> > For Immediate Release

>>>>> > Classen Immunotherapies, Inc.

>>>>> > 6517 Montrose Avenue Baltimore,

MD

>>>>21212 U.S.A.

>>>>> > Tel: (410) 377-4549 Fax: (410)

>>>>377-8526

>>>>> > Classen@...

>>>>http://vaccines.net

>>>>> >

>>>>> > Hemophilus meningitis vaccine linked to diabetes increase. Many

>>>>diabetics

>>>>> > may be eligible for compensation.

>>>>> >

>>>>> > Baltimore, May 7, 1999: The British Medical Journal (eBMJ;

>>>>> > http://www.bmj.com/cgi/eletters/318/7192/1169) published data by

Dr.

>>J.

>>>>> > Bart Classen, an immunologist at Classen Immunotherapies, supporting

a

>>>>> > causal relationship between the hemophilus vaccine and the

development

>>>>of

>>>>> > insulin dependent diabetes.

>>>>

>>>>thank you kindly for disseminating this information.

>>>>

>>>>Krista (lylethompson@...)

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In a message dated 8/31/99 6:58:27 PM Eastern Daylight Time, mont@...

writes:

> From: " Montgomery " <mont@...>

>

> Hi,

>

> I know many of you will think I did the wrong thing, but I relented and

> decided to give my 13 month old the hib vaccine. My pediatrician said that

> the meningitis that it is to prevent was and could be a real threat and is

> the most likely of the diseases he could actually contract. So, I gave in

> on Wednesday of last week. Well, on Friday night he started running a

fever

> (around 100-101). No other symptoms, other than grouchiness. I just gave

> Tylenol and Motrin. I did not take him in. It seems to be subsiding

today.

> So, was this a reaction to the vaccine ( he has not been receiving the

> ususal vaccines) or did he just catch a bug THERE in the waiting room with

> all of those germs floating about?

>

> Trina

>

Is it OK to give both Tylenol and Motrin at the same time? Was he in really

bad shape? Did he not respond to the Tylenol? I'm a bit confused since

100-101 seems like such a low grade fever.

Cory

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In a message dated 08/31/1999 8:37:35 PM Central Daylight Time,

Cmermer@... writes:

<<

Is it OK to give both Tylenol and Motrin at the same time? Was he in really

bad shape? Did he not respond to the Tylenol? I'm a bit confused since

100-101 seems like such a low grade fever.

>>

Yes,it is...if it is needed. Motrin is generally only to be used for a fever

of 102 or more though. Two winters ago when my kids had the flu my ped said

to alternate the tylenol and motrin...for some reason they work better that

way rather than just constantly giving the same one dose after dose.

Cicely

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I don't know, my son has been running the same type of fever since Sun. and has

no other symptoms either. He has not had any vax in almost 7 months so I doubt

it's a reaction here. I might take him in tomorrow if the temps not lower in the

morning, it was 102 when I put him to bed.

shelby

DeMaio wrote:

> Probably a reaction if he didn't have any other symptoms, like a bug

> would have had. I guess even mild reactions can probably occur 48 hours

> later.

>

> ------------------------------------------------------------------------

>

> Subject: hib vaccine

> Date: Tue, 31 Aug 1999 17:50:01 -0500

> From: " Montgomery " <mont@...>

> Reply-Vaccinationsonelist

> " vaccination list " <vaccinationsonelist>

>

> From: " Montgomery " <mont@...>

>

> Hi,

>

> I know many of you will think I did the wrong thing, but I relented and

> decided to give my 13 month old the hib vaccine. My pediatrician said that

> the meningitis that it is to prevent was and could be a real threat and is

> the most likely of the diseases he could actually contract. So, I gave in

> on Wednesday of last week. Well, on Friday night he started running a fever

> (around 100-101). No other symptoms, other than grouchiness. I just gave

> Tylenol and Motrin. I did not take him in. It seems to be subsiding today.

> So, was this a reaction to the vaccine ( he has not been receiving the

> ususal vaccines) or did he just catch a bug THERE in the waiting room with

> all of those germs floating about?

>

> Trina

>

> ---------------------------

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I'm so confused as to the different things different docs recommend. Why

isn't there more " standard " ? I know I read somewhere that acetaminophen

and ibuprofen should never be mixed. You're suppose to stick with one or

the other. Acetominophen is for pain relief of non-inflammatory pain,

and ibu is for inflammations. I hate when you get two different

" advices " .

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, I was also told to alternate motrin and tylenol so that the coverage

overlaps (motrin is 6-8hr, tylenol is 4-6). I was told this after my son had

surgery and was taken off 4 days of morphine, by his plastic surgeon.

shelby

DeMaio wrote:

> I'm so confused as to the different things different docs recommend. Why

> isn't there more " standard " ? I know I read somewhere that acetaminophen

> and ibuprofen should never be mixed. You're suppose to stick with one or

> the other. Acetominophen is for pain relief of non-inflammatory pain,

> and ibu is for inflammations. I hate when you get two different

> " advices " .

>

>

>

> ------------------------------------------------------------------------

>

> Subject: Re: hib vaccine

> Date: Tue, 31 Aug 1999 21:40:26 EDT

> From: CDrum4@...

> Reply-Vaccinationsonelist

> Vaccinationsonelist

>

> From: CDrum4@...

>

> In a message dated 08/31/1999 8:37:35 PM Central Daylight Time,

> Cmermer@... writes:

>

> <<

> Is it OK to give both Tylenol and Motrin at the same time? Was he in really

> bad shape? Did he not respond to the Tylenol? I'm a bit confused since

> 100-101 seems like such a low grade fever.

> >>

>

> Yes,it is...if it is needed. Motrin is generally only to be used for a fever

> of 102 or more though. Two winters ago when my kids had the flu my ped said

> to alternate the tylenol and motrin...for some reason they work better that

> way rather than just constantly giving the same one dose after dose.

> Cicely

>

> ---------------------------

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102 can be scary but it's really not that high in a baby. What really, really

works

to bring a fever down is a water enema. I've seen it work. Some Homeopaths

don't

agree with it however. Just got to find what works for you.

Shelby Helm wrote:

> From: Shelby Helm <helminger@...>

>

> I don't know, my son has been running the same type of fever since Sun. and

has

> no other symptoms either. He has not had any vax in almost 7 months so I doubt

> it's a reaction here. I might take him in tomorrow if the temps not lower in

the

> morning, it was 102 when I put him to bed.

> shelby

>

> DeMaio wrote:

>

> > Probably a reaction if he didn't have any other symptoms, like a bug

> > would have had. I guess even mild reactions can probably occur 48 hours

> > later.

> >

> > ------------------------------------------------------------------------

> >

> > Subject: hib vaccine

> > Date: Tue, 31 Aug 1999 17:50:01 -0500

> > From: " Montgomery " <mont@...>

> > Reply-Vaccinationsonelist

> > " vaccination list " <vaccinationsonelist>

> >

> > From: " Montgomery " <mont@...>

> >

> > Hi,

> >

> > I know many of you will think I did the wrong thing, but I relented and

> > decided to give my 13 month old the hib vaccine. My pediatrician said that

> > the meningitis that it is to prevent was and could be a real threat and is

> > the most likely of the diseases he could actually contract. So, I gave in

> > on Wednesday of last week. Well, on Friday night he started running a fever

> > (around 100-101). No other symptoms, other than grouchiness. I just gave

> > Tylenol and Motrin. I did not take him in. It seems to be subsiding today.

> > So, was this a reaction to the vaccine ( he has not been receiving the

> > ususal vaccines) or did he just catch a bug THERE in the waiting room with

> > all of those germs floating about?

> >

> > Trina

> >

> > ---------------------------

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from what i have been told yes you can give motrin and tylenol together but

they have to be atleast 2 hours apart. so if you gave tylenol at 8 then

motrin at 10 then tylenol at 12 and so on. motrin does not work well on low

grade fevers. it is used to bring high fevers down faster then tylenol.

unless he was actin not himself i dont see the need to medicate him and yes

a low grade fever can be a reaction to the shot.

Buffy

>From: Cmermer@...

>Reply-Vaccinationsonelist

>Vaccinationsonelist

>Subject: Re: hib vaccine

>Date: Tue, 31 Aug 1999 21:37:22 EDT

>

>From: Cmermer@...

>

>In a message dated 8/31/99 6:58:27 PM Eastern Daylight Time, mont@...

>writes:

>

> > From: " Montgomery " <mont@...>

> >

> > Hi,

> >

> > I know many of you will think I did the wrong thing, but I relented and

> > decided to give my 13 month old the hib vaccine. My pediatrician said

>that

> > the meningitis that it is to prevent was and could be a real threat and

>is

> > the most likely of the diseases he could actually contract. So, I gave

>in

> > on Wednesday of last week. Well, on Friday night he started running a

>fever

> > (around 100-101). No other symptoms, other than grouchiness. I just

>gave

> > Tylenol and Motrin. I did not take him in. It seems to be subsiding

>today.

> > So, was this a reaction to the vaccine ( he has not been receiving the

> > ususal vaccines) or did he just catch a bug THERE in the waiting room

>with

> > all of those germs floating about?

> >

> > Trina

> >

>

>Is it OK to give both Tylenol and Motrin at the same time? Was he in

>really

>bad shape? Did he not respond to the Tylenol? I'm a bit confused since

>100-101 seems like such a low grade fever.

>

>Cory

>

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I was just reading this today, not real detailed just the bare facts and of

course it is rather biased towards the vaccine but it explains what it's

for.

http://www.babycenter.com/refcap/1562

Mel

>

>I have a friend whose doctor is pressuring her to get this vaccine. I

don't

>know much about it (I just choose not to vaccinate AT ALL), so would

>appreciate any websites or article links that I can forward to her... she

>wants to know ingredients, known reactions, etc. Her daughter is 3 months

>old. I am on digest, so I would appreciate any direct replies. Thanks so

>much,

>

>Blessings!

> Dill

>gherkin@...

>

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