Fw: (off topic, but pertinent)Me? A Cultist?

July 14, 1999

> >

> > Below is a quote from Janet Reno which does not surprise me. I feel sad

> > for

> > Janet Reno because of her ignorance of the Truth. As the Lord Jesus

said,

> > " Forgive them for they do not know what they do " . She does not know

what

> > she is saying. confessed in retrospect that he was in his

ignorance

> > that he persecuted the Church (Jesus) as is with Janet Reno.

> >

> > > Hard to believe this country was founded on Christian beliefs and

> > principals, and yet the below summarizes the position of the

> > > top law enforcement officer in the US, expressed on national TV.

> > >

> > > Statement from Janet Reno:

> > >

> > > " A cultist is one who has a strong belief in the Bible and the Second

> > Coming of Christ; who frequently attends Bible studies;

> > > who has a high level of financial giving to a Christian cause; who

> > homeschools for their children; who has accumulated survival

> > > foods and has strong belief in the Second Amendment; and who distrusts

> > big government. Any of these may qualify a person

> > > as a cultist but certainly more than one of these would cause us to

look

> > at this person as a threat and his family as being in a

> > > risk situation that qualified for government interference. " Janet

Reno,

> > Attny. General, USA

> > >

> > > Interview on 60 Minutes - June 26

> > >

> > > Do you qualify? Are you (as defined by the US Attorney General) a

> > threat? This concerns me. Does it bother you? Everyone

> > > in this country - " The land of the free " - with computer access should

> > copy this and send to every other man, woman and child

> > > who can read.

> >

>

July 14, 1999

In a message dated 7/14/99 2:12:03 PM Eastern Daylight Time, nagel@...

writes:

<< > > Below is a quote from Janet Reno which does not surprise me. I feel sad

> > for

> > Janet Reno because of her ignorance of the Truth. As the Lord Jesus

said,

> > " Forgive them for they do not know what they do " . She does not know

what

> > she is saying. confessed in retrospect that he was in his

ignorance

> > that he persecuted the Church (Jesus) as is with Janet Reno.

> >

> > > Hard to believe this country was founded on Christian beliefs and

> > principals, and yet the below summarizes the position of the

> > > top law enforcement officer in the US, expressed on national TV.

> > >

> > > Statement from Janet Reno:

> > >

> > > " A cultist is one who has a strong belief in the Bible and the Second

> > Coming of Christ; who frequently attends Bible studies;

> > > who has a high level of financial giving to a Christian cause; who

> > homeschools for their children; who has accumulated survival

> > > foods and has strong belief in the Second Amendment; and who distrusts

> > big government. Any of these may qualify a person

> > > as a cultist but certainly more than one of these would cause us to

look

> > at this person as a threat and his family as being in a

> > > risk situation that qualified for government interference. " Janet

Reno,

> > Attny. General, USA

> > >

> > > Interview on 60 Minutes - June 26

> > >

> > > Do you qualify? Are you (as defined by the US Attorney General) a

> > threat? This concerns me. Does it bother you? Everyone

> > > in this country - " The land of the free " - with computer access should

> > copy this and send to every other man, woman and child

> > > who can read.

> >

> >>

I normally do not post anymore (This is

" MysticMoonWolf@... " for those who may remember) and I normally

only read the notices sent out, but just had to jump in on this one.

Firstly I'd just like to say that a " cult " or " cultist " has many

different definitions. Anyone possessing an extreme belief in any one

particular issue will more than likely be dubbed as a " cultist " at some point

in their life. " Cultist " has become nothing more than a derogatory term for

people who differ from the mainstream of society.

Ms. Reno's statement is absurd, and I somehow doubt many people are

going to be running around accusing every Christian with a distrust of the

government a " cultist " .

As someone who follows an alternative religion with beliefs that

directly conflict with Christianity, I am quite familiar with the term

" cult " , as I and others are faced with it almost on a daily basis.

I would just like to say that with my beliefs, I found it just a tad

disturbing to come upon this in my mailbox. Ms. Reno's statement alone would

have sufficed, but I find the statements above it were highly unnecessary,

considering one does not know the beliefs of every person on the list. Yes

this country was founded on " Christian beliefs and principals " , but firstly

it was not the first set of spiritual beliefs in this country, and secondly

this country is based on freedom of all religions without persecution. As a

Pagan, I found it a bit offensive to read words of " The Truth " in my mail

coming from a vaccinations list.

Don't get me wrong, I am not one of these people who everyone has to

" tread lightly " around for fear of offending. People talking about their

religion is fine and dandy with me. I don't preach, I don't bash, and I have

no qualms with the mainstream religion, as I find all religions beautiful in

their own way.

But if I want to hear about " Ignorance of the Truth " and to be reminded

that this country is a " Christian country " , I will sign on to one of the many

religion lists. Off topic threads are fine with me...I have no problems with

deleting mail. But when it comes to something like this, I do feel the need

to speak up.

I had been trying to get around to asking this list if anyone here has

gotten a religious exemption based on alternative beliefs, particularly Pagan

beliefs. I guess this is as good a time as any, considering the subject.

Anyone out there who can help?

In closing, I'd like to say that this reply of mine is in no way

intended to start any type of religious debate. Perhaps I should not even be

sending this reply to the entire list, but I am doing so in order to make it

clear to all that I don't exactly appreciate receiving this type of mail. If

anyone finds fault with what I am saying....feel free to email me privately.

Brightest Blessings,

July 28, 1999

,

Did this quote actually air? Did you see it? Where did you get it? There

are many people I know who want to write with their opinion. Could you

please provide additional info or corroboration.

Thanks for your assistance,

in CT

Steve & wrote:

>

> From: " Steve & " <nagel@...>

>

> > >

> > > Below is a quote from Janet Reno which does not surprise me. I feel sad

> > > for

> > > Janet Reno because of her ignorance of the Truth. As the Lord Jesus

> said,

> > > " Forgive them for they do not know what they do " . She does not know

> what

> > > she is saying. confessed in retrospect that he was in his

> ignorance

> > > that he persecuted the Church (Jesus) as is with Janet Reno.

> > >

> > > > Hard to believe this country was founded on Christian beliefs and

> > > principals, and yet the below summarizes the position of the

> > > > top law enforcement officer in the US, expressed on national TV.

> > > >

> > > > Statement from Janet Reno:

> > > >

> > > > " A cultist is one who has a strong belief in the Bible and the Second

> > > Coming of Christ; who frequently attends Bible studies;

> > > > who has a high level of financial giving to a Christian cause; who

> > > homeschools for their children; who has accumulated survival

> > > > foods and has strong belief in the Second Amendment; and who distrusts

> > > big government. Any of these may qualify a person

> > > > as a cultist but certainly more than one of these would cause us to

> look

> > > at this person as a threat and his family as being in a

> > > > risk situation that qualified for government interference. " Janet

> Reno,

> > > Attny. General, USA

> > > >

> > > > Interview on 60 Minutes - June 26

> > > >

> > > > Do you qualify? Are you (as defined by the US Attorney General) a

> > > threat? This concerns me. Does it bother you? Everyone

> > > > in this country - " The land of the free " - with computer access should

> > > copy this and send to every other man, woman and child

> > > > who can read.

> > >

> >

>

> ---------------------------

July 28, 1999

,

Apparently the quote is a hoax that was meant to inflame people to anger,

which is exactly what it did,. I am