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In a message dated 11/4/99 4:31:01 AM Pacific Standard Time,

C8743@... writes:

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I work best when I have support, the problem is, I usually don't have any,

so

I get scared into things that I much regret later. >>

Carol,

Nice to see you joined this list.I have to say the above happens to me all

the time too.I talk big,but when I am surrounded by " medical professionals " I

lose it.My dh is no help either since he follows " doctors orders " ;though he

will listen to what I say at home!

Could I fwd part of your post on the ultrasound to another list?

http://www.kjv.com/family/bboard/bboard.mv

I know they would be interested in your experience with it.People often

question the safety of US,but rarely does anyone have negative experiences

with it.How many did you have done?

I did one when I was bleeding at 20 weeks,then another after a car accident

at 27 weeks.

I remember reading somewhere a comment from a navy seal on ultrasound.He said

he was in the water(pool)and before he got a chance to get out they started

the US.He said it felt like an immense pressure on him and he felt

heat/pain.Said it was extremely uncomfortable.

I assume that is why fetuses move so much during a US.It is to get away from

the pressure/heat/pain.

How sad that it is now a routine procedure.I will never to it again.

Sara-Mommy to Nimet born at home UC/2-9-99

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In a message dated 11/4/99 9:55:01 AM Eastern Standard Time, Mum2nini@...

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Just my 2cents:

My DH was swimming under our boat while we had on a " fishfinder " which uses

the same sort of ultrasound and he said he felt tremendous heat from it.

Changed my mind about the whole procedure and would never consider one if it

wasn't of ABSOLUTE necessity...Some people have one every month to " chart "

their childs growth! Don't quite understand the logic, but...

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In a message dated 11/4/99 9:55:01 AM Eastern Standard Time, Mum2nini@...

writes:

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>>

Just my 2cents:

My DH was swimming under our boat while we had on a " fishfinder " which uses

the same sort of ultrasound and he said he felt tremendous heat from it.

Changed my mind about the whole procedure and would never consider one if it

wasn't of ABSOLUTE necessity...Some people have one every month to " chart "

their childs growth! Don't quite understand the logic, but...

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This is scary reading about the ultrasounds. We had a home birth with

Hannah and I am so grateful to my midwife for letting us make our own

decisions throughout my pregnancy. We sat on the fence for a long time

about having an ultrasound. She gave us the pro's and con's and ultimately

we decided to forgo them. I am so glad we did. I could feel my baby was

growing inside me and if there was anything amiss abortion was never an

alternative so we could not really justify having one done. It was sort of

scary when I went into labor because we didn't know if everything was ok or

not. But, at that point, we were prepared to love whatever God gave us. I

loved that little being for 41 weeks and had such a special bond already. I

can't imagine how I would have felt if I'd have known throughout the

pregnancy that there was some sort of defect.

Toni

Re: Carol/UltraSound

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> In a message dated 11/4/99 9:55:01 AM Eastern Standard Time,

Mum2nini@...

> writes:

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> <<

> >>

> Just my 2cents:

> My DH was swimming under our boat while we had on a " fishfinder " which

uses

> the same sort of ultrasound and he said he felt tremendous heat from it.

> Changed my mind about the whole procedure and would never consider one if

it

> wasn't of ABSOLUTE necessity...Some people have one every month to " chart "

> their childs growth! Don't quite understand the logic, but...

>

> >

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In a message dated 11/4/1999 8:54:58 AM Central Standard Time,

Mum2nini@... writes:

<< Could I fwd part of your post on the ultrasound to another list?

http://www.kjv.com/family/bboard/bboard.mv

I know they would be interested in your experience with it.People often

question the safety of US,but rarely does anyone have negative experiences

with it.How many did you have done? >>

Yes, you can. And add that this has been verified by 2 *medical* doctors,

two naturopaths, and the dentist and chiropractor working with him run into

this *all* the time. The later 4 professionals routinely take hour long or

longer medical histories on patients so they have a very good understanding

of the processes that lead to current conditions, etc. Of course the

*medical* profession wanted me to put him under and have 10 of his baby teeth

pulled. right. That's always the best answer to an invasive procedure gone

wrong --- 1. Don't admit any responsibility or liability, and 2. Answer

with another invasive procedure.

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I am pregnant with my second child, due Jan 1. With my first preg I opted

not to get ultrasounds, not sure why, just instincts. With this pregnancy I

have researched it more, and am glad I chose not to have ultrasounds.

However, in this latest bout of researching, I found out that the doptone

that your doctor/ob uses on regular prenatal visits to listen to and count

fetal heart rate is also ultrasound, in that it uses ultrasonic impulses,

AND, it is more dangerous than what we traditionally think of as an

ultrasound. The doptone uses continuous output of ultrasonic waves, whereas

the sonogram uses pulses of ultrasound, so the actual amount of interference

with the fetus may be less with the sonogram, and more with the regular

listening to heartbeat in your doctors office. If this is something that

concerns you, you can request your doctor to use a regular old stethoscope -

they prefer not to, though, because then they have to figure heart rate on

their own, the oldfashioned way, looking at their watch while they listen.

I am taking Bradley method classes for this birth, and we discuss these

types of issues alot. We talked about Vit K as well, and the negatives are

that it may be linked to childhood leukemia, but recent research hasn't

proven this. The scariest stuff we've learned about is the effects of ALL

drugs given during labour, effects on the mom and the baby, short term and

long term effects. Epidurals especially are scary things.......

Just some food for thought....

Amy (mom to 2, vacc to 6 mos)

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Re: Carol/UltraSound

>I am taking Bradley method classes for this birth, and we discuss these

>types of issues alot. We talked about Vit K as well, and the negatives are

>that it may be linked to childhood leukemia, but recent research hasn't

>proven this. The scariest stuff we've learned about is the effects of ALL

>drugs given during labour, effects on the mom and the baby, short term and

>long term effects. Epidurals especially are scary things.......

We don't have any Bradley classes around here (not many in Canada, for that

matter), but I did a " home study " version and had 2 babies (mostly) this

way. It's a wonderful way to have babies! I wish we had the classes too

though because I'd love to have someone to talk to about all these issues!

(I'm pregnant too and due May)

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