Re: jaundice and vit K shots, Q about eye drops

[Guest guest]

It is my understanding that you can refuse anything in the hospital. I

always used the line, " You do not have my consent, " and that seems to stop

hospital staff. You might offer to sign a waiver releasing the hospital, but

you do not have to accept the drops.

Alice

[Guest guest]

Hi ,

When my third baby was born in a birthing center we asked that he not be

given the eye drops and the midwife said that she could give him

erythromycin that came in a cream/gel that was placed in his eyes just

before we went home (three hours after the birth!). The midwife said that if

it was up to her she wouldn't do it at all but their reasoning behind it was

to protect from infection. We didn't finish putting the eye drops in his

eyes as we were told to (after three babies I got a lot smarter) and he was

fine.

Lambert wrote:

> From: Lambert <mrslamb@...>

>

> I learn something from you all constantly! I have four children. All

> four have

> received vitamin K shots and all four have been jaundice with the fourth

> being

> so jaundiced that the Dr. sent home health out with a bili-blanket for

> her and

> to take her blood for a solid week after she was born. I know that the

> hep.B

> shot was given to two of my children as well. Now, expecting my 5th

> child,

> I'm changing my attitude toward all of this and I would like to ask

> specifically

> about the eye drops. I told my OB yesterday that we did not want to

> have those

> done and he told me in AL it's a state law and that although he had

> tried to get

> around it a couple of times for some of his other patients, he hadn't

> been

> successful. Has anyone encountered this?

> Blessings,

>

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[Guest guest]

Request the antibiotic cream/gel for the eyes. The eye drops are made

of silver nitrate. The other alternative is get a blood test proving

you don't have gonorrhea (sp?). I would think that would eliminate the

need for the drops. The whole reason for the silver nitrate drops are

if the mother has gonorrhea. Hope it helps.

Dr. Mendelsohn in the book " How to Raise A Healthy Child...In

Spite of your Doctor " discusses the eye drops, along with the soap

hospitals use to " clean " the baby, along with other items to watch out

for in a chapter dealing with hospital nurseries. You may want to get

it...

Lambert wrote:

>

> From: Lambert <mrslamb@...>

>

> I learn something from you all constantly! I have four children. All

> four have

> received vitamin K shots and all four have been jaundice with the fourth

> being

> so jaundiced that the Dr. sent home health out with a bili-blanket for

> her and

> to take her blood for a solid week after she was born. I know that the

> hep.B

> shot was given to two of my children as well. Now, expecting my 5th

> child,

> I'm changing my attitude toward all of this and I would like to ask

> specifically

> about the eye drops. I told my OB yesterday that we did not want to

> have those

> done and he told me in AL it's a state law and that although he had

> tried to get

> around it a couple of times for some of his other patients, he hadn't

> been

> successful. Has anyone encountered this?

> Blessings,

>

>

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>

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[Guest guest]

Okay, finally something that got through the post baby brain fog. My kids

didn't get the silver nitrate drops. They used something different -- I'm

guessing it was the antibiotic cream. Is there anything else they're using?

Re: jaundice and vit K shots, Q about eye drops

>From: Reiss <lisa@...>

>

>Request the antibiotic cream/gel for the eyes. The eye drops are made

>of silver nitrate.

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 99-04-02 08:15:13 EST, you write:

> I'm changing my attitude toward all of this and I would like to ask

> specifically

> about the eye drops. I told my OB yesterday that we did not want to

> have those

> done and he told me in AL it's a state law and that although he had

> tried to get

> around it a couple of times for some of his other patients, he hadn't

> been

> successful. Has anyone encountered this?

> Blessings,

>

We refused the drops in NY and just had to sign a waiver at the hospital.

Put a letter in writing to the hospital and copy the doctor on it. See what

their response is.

Cory

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 99-04-02 10:06:07 EST, you write:

> Dr. Mendelsohn in the book " How to Raise A Healthy Child...In

> Spite of your Doctor " discusses the eye drops, along with the soap

> hospitals use to " clean " the baby, along with other items to watch out

> for in a chapter dealing with hospital nurseries. You may want to get

> it...

>

I think most hospitals stopped using Hexachlorophene , which is the soap Dr.

Mendelsohn speaks of, but it is worth asking about. Our hospital switched to

's & 's baby wash or something like that. But we requested

they use only plain water and for myself to be present and/or help with the

first bathing.

Cory

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 99-04-02 10:19:45 EST, you write:

> Okay, finally something that got through the post baby brain fog. My kids

> didn't get the silver nitrate drops. They used something different -- I'm

> guessing it was the antibiotic cream. Is there anything else they're

using?

>

>

Most hospitals have switched to Erythromycin, but some still use Silver

Nitrate (I think it's cheaper)

Cory

[Guest guest]

,

They don't use sliver nitrate anyone. The drops are an antibiotic

Erythromycin.

As for refusing them I think you should be able to by signing a waiver when

going into the hospital, that is all we did. The vit K and eye drops are

rountinely given usually without parental knowledge or consent. Most moms

don't even know these things are done to their babies, I have educated quite

a few women who had no idea.

List Owner

Re: jaundice and vit K shots, Q about eye drops

From: Reiss <lisa@...>

Request the antibiotic cream/gel for the eyes. The eye drops are made

of silver nitrate. The other alternative is get a blood test proving

you don't have gonorrhea (sp?). I would think that would eliminate the

need for the drops. The whole reason for the silver nitrate drops are

if the mother has gonorrhea. Hope it helps.

Dr. Mendelsohn in the book " How to Raise A Healthy Child...In

Spite of your Doctor " discusses the eye drops, along with the soap

hospitals use to " clean " the baby, along with other items to watch out

for in a chapter dealing with hospital nurseries. You may want to get

it...

Lambert wrote:

>

> From: Lambert <mrslamb@...>

>

> I learn something from you all constantly! I have four children. All

> four have

> received vitamin K shots and all four have been jaundice with the fourth

> being

> so jaundiced that the Dr. sent home health out with a bili-blanket for

> her and

> to take her blood for a solid week after she was born. I know that the

> hep.B

> shot was given to two of my children as well. Now, expecting my 5th

> child,

> I'm changing my attitude toward all of this and I would like to ask

> specifically

> about the eye drops. I told my OB yesterday that we did not want to

> have those

> done and he told me in AL it's a state law and that although he had

> tried to get

> around it a couple of times for some of his other patients, he hadn't

> been

> successful. Has anyone encountered this?

> Blessings,

>

>

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In regard to vaccines, etc. if you are in a hospital and you sign the

blanket waiver form upon entry, atleast in CT, this allows the hospital

to do anything. If you do not want a certain procedure you may want to

write it on the original hospital waiver upon entry. Otherwise, they

think they get to make all the decisions because they have the blanket

form.

ClintonVA@... wrote:

>

> From: ClintonVA@...

>

> It is my understanding that you can refuse anything in the hospital. I

> always used the line, " You do not have my consent, " and that seems to stop

> hospital staff. You might offer to sign a waiver releasing the hospital, but

> you do not have to accept the drops.

>

> Alice

>

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[Guest guest]

When I went into the hospital to have my daughter (two days before the birth

center

opened for deliveries (my luck) I had already written a birth plan that

specified

exactly what I wanted and didn't want done, including no silver nitrite eye

drops

(they were still using them as recently as October of last year when my nephew

was

born in West Virginia but may have changed). I was encouraged to write one by my

midwife, and I made sure EVERYONE I came into contact with had a copy. The OB

was

shocked when he read it at a late term examination and said " Well, we'll just

let

those ladies (the midwives) take care of you. " . I'm sure he thought I would

deliver

at the birth center. Imagine his surprise when I went into labor two days before

it

opened! Anyway, my husband made sure everyone had one, from the admitting nurse

to

the person that brought my meals. I avoided the IV and even got to keep my baby

in

the room at a hospital that was very strict about no rooming in. Since then they

have changed their policies, but at the time I got a lot of flack from the

doctor,

the nurses, the nursery, etc. Wayne wouldn't let her out of his sight for

bathing

or anything, and I had already nursed her before they even weighed her for the

first time. I was pretty proud. One of the few things I feel confident that I

did

my best at for my kids. If you need suggestions for a birth plan, let me know. I

love the line you used, " You do not have my consent " . Blunt, to the point, and

very

effective I'm sure. I will use it often!

Tammy

Reiss wrote:

> From: Reiss <lisa@...>

>

> In regard to vaccines, etc. if you are in a hospital and you sign the

> blanket waiver form upon entry, atleast in CT, this allows the hospital

> to do anything. If you do not want a certain procedure you may want to

> write it on the original hospital waiver upon entry. Otherwise, they

> think they get to make all the decisions because they have the blanket

> form.

>

> ClintonVA@... wrote:

> >

> > From: ClintonVA@...

> >

> > It is my understanding that you can refuse anything in the hospital. I

> > always used the line, " You do not have my consent, " and that seems to stop

> > hospital staff. You might offer to sign a waiver releasing the hospital,

but

> > you do not have to accept the drops.

> >

> > Alice

> >

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[Guest guest]

I just found out that all my children recieved Vit K and eye drops at birth.

The nurse at the hospital was really nonchalant about it. After telling me all

the reasons they are important she then said that some parents decide not to

accept them and they just sign a paper. I hadn't even asked her yet what I

could do if I don't want them!

Also, could anyone with birth plan ideas PLEASE let me know? You can e-mail me

privately with your suggestions if you want? The only time I had a birth plan

was the only birth I liked. It was an extremely basic, tho. I am beginning to

see so many things already that I should be thinking about. I never realized

this stuff was happening! Help!!

Thanks,