Guest guest Posted January 15, 2004 Report Share Posted January 15, 2004 I'm sorry Liz. I hope things improve for you soon. Noelle (12-2-01) Ian (8-15-04) FEELING LOW On Sunday evening I took an overdose, 8 co codomal tablets. I have > Been feeling down for a while on and off. I am between homes, mine and Graham's 95 miles away. For a while now I have been Upset when staying at my boyfriend's. His father has been trying to Get us to live together at Graham's home to save going backwards and Forwards, he is now nearer his Parents than before, about 5 minutes walk. > My parents don't want me to give my flat up, they would rather us Travel backwards and forwards. I haven't told my parents about the Overdose in case it upset them. Graham did take me to A & E and I Am OK. > > Thought I'd give you an update. Hope you are OK. Take care love > Liz > X > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 25, 2006 Report Share Posted October 25, 2006 In a message dated 10/26/06 12:09:31 AM, gemchip67@... writes: I am still on 80 of Potassium, 50 of spiro and a couple of blood pressure meds, guess i don't want to believe that this is as good as my life can be right now. I would appreciate the doctor's name at Baylor again dr.Grim, Still hanging on to hope , racing heart in texas. Pam I recommended Dr. at Baylor. 50 of spiro is a drop in the bucket if your K is still low. I go up to 400 a day till things get better. You should not require that much K if you are on enough spiro and are DASHing. Have you ever been on higer doses of Spiro? May your pressure be low! Clarence E. Grim, B.S., M.S., M.D. Specializing in Difficult to Control High Blood Pressure and the Physiology and History of Survival During Hard Times and Heart Disease today. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 2, 2009 Report Share Posted September 2, 2009 Hi everyone i feel a bit despondent today. I was due to have my blood taken yesterday so i stopped my Levo on Sunday i wasn't advised to do this by my GP of course i just got the info from this great forum. Five minutes before leaving the surgery rang to say they had to cancel. I went along today to have it done and i plucked up courage to ask the grumpy nurse what i was being tested for and she said it was just the usual TSH test. I just cant believe it i had spoken to my G p at length about needing to be tested properly and she did request the right tests last time. That's how i found out i had the antibodies. Id had ten normal tests in the last five years. She seemed open and supportive last time i cant believe I'm just having the normal test again. I still haven't had the T3 back from the lab after two months and i don't think i ever will. I don't know if i will get the right treatment with just the normal test presumably she will continue with my treatment now she knows about the antibodies. Regards 2. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 2, 2009 Report Share Posted September 2, 2009 ***i plucked up courage to ask the grumpy nurse what i was being tested for andshe said it was just the usual TSH test Hi Tracey2, What can I say? You've been had ... again Commiserations - If it's any consolation, I think this is the reality we all have to face these days. How many times have we read similar stories on here? ...To get anything more than a TSH out of our GPs is wishful thinking, it seems. It would not surprised me to learn that GPs and endos alike have been briefed to just pacify patients in any way they see fit - agree with them, look interested in their problems ... but then to largely ignore the patient and stick to their "guidelines" . I don't know how it works in other surgeries around the country, but in mine the GP appointments and the lab appointments are separate. When I go to my GP and ask for a blood test, he will give me a form on which he has ticked what should be done. I think, in order to safe ourselves this kind of frustration that you have just experienced, Tracey, we should all learn how to read those blood test forms. The forms may slightly differ, but usually they are grouped into Haematology, Biochemistry, Microbiology and Immunology. The "Biochemistry" is the one to look at for a thyroid function test .... It usually has got little boxes, and there should be one that says "Thyroid". If the doctor only ticks that one, then you can bet your life, all that will be done is a TSH. When my GP is trying that one on, I hand him back the form and ask him (with an apologetic smile - sorry, but we have to play the game to get anywhere) to please add a hand written request for anything else I want done (FT3, FT4,etc). That puts the doctor on the spot. S/he either then has to say that this is not necessary (in which case you are wasting your time anyway), or they'll oblige and put it on. Once the hand written request is on the form, I tell the nurse who is taking the blood to please put a request on the form AGAIN - so that the lab would not "accidentally" forget to do this. I always spin a yarn, playing one against the other, telling the nurse that my GP specifically wants those parameters, so would she please do what she can that this does not get "overlooked" by the lab ..... so far I have always had all the requested parameters done this way, with the exception of an FT3 last time. But I think to get an FT3 these days, it might have to be requested by an endo and not a GP. If we want autoantibodies done, look at the "Immunology" group - they are on there and would need to be ticked. If they haven't got a box, then it needs a hand written request in this field, and so on.... B12 and the other parameters like Magnesium, Zinc, Vit D3, Ferritin and Copper , I believe, would have to be ticked or hand written into "Haematology". Best wishes, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 2, 2009 Report Share Posted September 2, 2009 Telephone your GP and tell her that you are desperate to have a FULL thyroid function test and that surely this is your right. The blood that has been taken is always saved for a while at the lab. in case other tests need doing, and your doctor can telephone through to ask them to test your Free T4 and Free T3. TSH is not likely to change much through stopping your levothyroxine for 24 hours. If the tests come back 'normal' we will have to take it from there, but you never know, wait and see what happens this time Tracey. Luv - Sheila I just cant believe it i had spoken to my G p at length about needing to be tested properly and she did request the right tests last time. That's how i found out i had the antibodies. Id had ten normal tests in the last five years. She seemed open and supportive last time i cant believe I'm just having the normal test again. I still haven't had the T3 back from the lab after two months and i don't think i ever will. I don't know if i will get the right treatment with just the normal test presumably she will continue with my treatment now she knows about the antibodies. Regards 2. No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.409 / Virus Database: 270.13.75/2340 - Release Date: 09/01/09 20:03:00 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 1, 2010 Report Share Posted May 1, 2010 Hi Sheila, I missed a couple of things off my original list of supplements ferrous sulphate and hemagenics Melatonin 10mg > > > > Tell us the exact dosage you are taking of prescription drugs and > > supplements and when each of these was last increased . Also, > which of > > the associated conditions that go along with being hypothyroid have > you > > addressed and are you still addressing these? > > > > Luv - Sheila > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 2, 2010 Report Share Posted May 2, 2010 Hi - Why are you taking 3 Nutri Thyroid and 2 Thyro complex as well as natural desiccated thyroid 2 1/2 grains? Nutri Thyroid and Thyro complex are considered as supplements to help boost the thyroid, which you eventually stop and replace with either synthetic or natural thyroid hormone replacement. As you are feeling so awful, it might be that the amount of minerals and vitamins etc in all these different supplements is just too much and letting you know about it. You may have been muscle tested when you started taking all of these supplements but your body's needs are changing all the time. Look at the ingredients in Cortico B5B6 - and you are taking 4 of these daily. Vitamin C (ascorbic acid) Vitamin B6 (pyridoxine HCl) Pantothenic acid (d-calcium pantothenate) Magnesium (oxide) Bioflavonoid complex 240mg 100mg 500mg 75mg 100mg Look at the ingredients in Andreset - 1 daily Cordyceps Mycelium Extract (Paecilomyces hepiali) (contains cordycepic acid and adenosine) Asian Ginseng Root Extract (Panax ginseng) [standardised to 8% (16mg) ginsenosides] Rhodiola Root Extract (Rhodoila rosea) [standardised to 1% (0.5mg) salidroside] 400mg 200mg 50mg Look at the ingredients in Nutri Adrenal Extra - 1 daily Vitamin C (as Ascorbic Acid) Vitamin B1 (Thiamin HCl) Vitamin B2 (Riboflavin) Vitamin B3 (Niacinamide) Vitamin B5 (d-calcium Pantothenate) Vitamin B6 (Pyridoxine HCl) Magnesium (Citrate) Zinc (Ascorbate) Chromium Picotinate Bioflavonoids Choline Bitartrate Adrenal tissue concentrate Pituitary tissue concentrate Look at the ingredients in Compose (Chinese formulae)- ? daily 150mg 20 mg 20 mg 20 mg 60 mg 20 mg 75 mg 3mg 40ug 40mg 20mg 200mg 15mg Rehmannia Root Jujube fruit Schisandra fruit Chinese Asparagus Root Dong Quai Root Ophiopogon Root Asian Ginseng Root Chinese Salvia Root Poria Sclerotium Polygala Root Platycodon Root THYROID - Look at the ingredients in Nutri Thyroid - 3 tablets daily Each tablet typically provides: Thyroid concentrate 140mg Look at the ingredients in Thyro Complex - 2 tablets daily Magnesium (Citrate) Vitamin C (Ascorbic Acid) L-Tyrosine Calcium (Citrate) Vitamin E (d-alpha tocopherol succinate) (100 I.U.) L-Carnitine DL-Phenylalanine Iodine (Kelp) Zinc (Picolinate) Vitamin B6 (Pyridoxine HCl) Manganese (bisglycinate) Selenium (selenomethionine) Vitamin B3 (Niacin) Liquorice Root Vitamin B1 (Thiamin Mononitrate) Vitamin B2 (Riboflavin) Copper (bisglycinate) Vitamin A (Palmitate) Folic Acid 25mg 250mg 250mg 40mg 67mg 125mg 125mg 75ug 4mg 12.5mg 1.5mg 25ug 12.5mg 10mg 5mg 5mg 0.5mg 750ug 75ug Look at the ingredients in Nutri Multi Liver Complex - 2 tablets daily. Lecithin Vitamin C (Ascorbic Acid) Vitamin E (d-alpha tocopherol acetate) Quercetin Calcium (Citrate) Magnesium (Citrate) N-Acetyl-L-Cysteine Milk Thistle L-Cysteine Glutamic Acid L-Glutamine L-Glycine L-Lysine L-Methionine Taurine NAG (N-Acetyl Glucosamine) Schizandra Pantothenic Acid Glutamic Acid HCl Dandelion Extract Red Beet Powder Beta Carotene Niacinamide Vitamin B6 (Pyrdioxine Hcl) L-Carnitine Iron (Citrate) Selenium (L-Selenomethionine) Molybdenum (Citrate) Vitamin B1 (Thiamine HCl) Vitamin B2 (Riboflavin) Proanthocyanadins Co-Enzyme Q10 Zinc (Picolinate) Manganese (Citrate) Copper (Citrate) Vitamin B12 (Cyanocobalamine) Chromium (Citrate) Vanadium (Sulphate) Vitamin A (Palmitate) Folic Acid Biotin 100mg 50mg 20mg 25mg 25mg 25mg 25mg 20mg 15mg 15mg 15mg 15mg 15mg 15mg 15mg 15mg 15mg 10mg 10mg 12mg 5mg 375ug 5mg 5mg 5mg 0.5mg 25ug 10ug 2.5mg 2.5mg 2.5mg 2.5mg 2mg 0.5mg 0.25mg 10ug 10ug 5ug 75ug 40ug 25ug Perhaps you should add up the different amounts of the vitamins and minerals you are taking in all your supplements - remembering you are already taking 4000 mgs vitamin C and 200mcgs Selenium to see whether you are overdoing some of them. Just looking at the amount of vitamin B6 alone, with the amount in Cortico B5B6 - taking 4 tablets, you are taking 400mgs. with your 1 tablet of Nutri Adrenal Extra you are taking 20mgs - with your 2 tablets of Thyro Complex you are taking 25mgs - in 2 tablets of Nutri Multi Liver Complex you are taking nearly 10mgs - this all adds up to a massive 455 mgs vitamin B6. Intake of levels that are higher than 200 mg can cause problems in neurological functions causing damage to your sensory nerves, leading to numbness in your extremities and difficulties in walking. Studies have even revealed that for long term use, it is best not to intake more than 100 mg of vitamin B6 daily. Supervision by a qualified practitioner is much needed for doses more than this. Also, look at the amount of Selenium you are taking daily, 2 tablets of Liver complext daily 50mcgs - 2 tablets of Thyro Complex daily 50mcgs. Add these to your 200 mcgs Selenium (the recommended daily dose) and you will see you are taking 300mcgs Selenium daily. Have a look at the following to check out all the daily dosages of all the other minerals and supplements you are taking http://1stholistic.com/nutrition/hol_nutr-toxic-dosages.htm Luv - Sheila Ok here goes with the supplement list, by the way these supplements/doseages have been muscle tested by a kinesologist and recently tested. NDT in total 8 wks. On 2 1/2 grains now, been on this for 1 week. 1 NAE Then I'm on 3 other Nutri products for adrenals: 4 Cortico B5 B6 1 Adreset - adaptogenic herbs including panax ginseng Compose -chinese herbal formula Vit C - approx 4000mg Selenium 200 3 Nutri thyroid 2 thyro complex 2 Multi liver formula I had my mercury fillings removed end of September, I did have them removed safely but things have deterioated since then. There maybe mecury still deposited elsewhere that is causing problems. I suppose some of the above will help but my body has probably little energy to detox and heal with the thyroid/adrenal situation. My adrenals scored as mild problem on the questionnaire and I am treating them via the above. I did test postively for candida via muscles tests and have treated for a long time with Nutrispore and the diet. I am no longer testing positively for candida. Thanks for your post about the sea salt, think this may help. Lv > > Tell us the exact dosage you are taking of prescription drugs and > supplements and when each of these was last increased . Also, which of > the associated conditions that go along with being hypothyroid have you > addressed and are you still addressing these? > > Luv - Sheila No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.437 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/2843 - Release Date: 04/30/10 18:27:00 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 2, 2010 Report Share Posted May 2, 2010 Hi Are you sure you aren't taking 1 mg of melatonin - only I thought the bottles I sent you were 1 mg tablets? I do hope I didn't send you 10 mg ones by mistake. I tried various doses and now take 5 mg a night - but there is rather a lot of me because I put on 7 stone in a year about 4 years ago when this bout of illness started - if I were normal weight I would probably still be on about 3mg as the 1 mg didn't really do much for me even when I was thinner. But I just started on 1 mg and increased it by 1 mg at a time until I found what suited me best. Bunny > > 10 mgs Melatonin is a very high dose - who told you to start on that dose > ? The normal amount of melatonin that our bodies produce is 1/2mg to > 1mg. So you should be able to sleep with as little as that. When I used it, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 2, 2010 Report Share Posted May 2, 2010 Hi Bunny, Don't worry it was somebody else that sent me the 10mg, it's nobodys fault though. I'm going to start with 1mg and build up like you said if necessary. You know what I thought the other day when I read your post and you said you had been advised about the sunglasses years ago (hope I've got that right). Well it's just a thought but on researching melatonin stuff they advise you to get a lot of light in the day. Also, how melatonin effects your sleep/weight function. When I went to the hospital years ago to rule out sleep apnea they said that light therapy was another option. You have to fund it yourself though but I've read that it's better at resetting your sleep/wake cycle permanently- its shelling out again though. Lv > > > > 10 mgs Melatonin is a very high dose - who told you to start on that dose > > ? The normal amount of melatonin that our bodies produce is 1/2mg to > > 1mg. So you should be able to sleep with as little as that. When I used it, > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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