What does 'feeling better' feel like for you?

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Hi All,

I'm new to this site, and am looking for HOPE! I've been feeling off-kilter for

soooo long, that I don't know what its like to feel better and have a

personality not coloured by anxiety, fatigue, depression, confusion etc!!

In the last month, feeling insulted by my GP (for the last time!), stumbling

across the STTM site, linking to this site and getting my lab tests done have

all led me here and your experiences have given me courage! But I'm still

knackered, confused and teary!! Anyway, here are my test results for you to take

a look at.

Adrenal Saliva tests

Sample 1 8am 2.9 (12 to 22)

Sample 2 12pm 3.3 (5 to 9) DHEA am 1.77

Sample 3 5pm 1.7 (3 to 7) DHEA pm 0.86

Sample 4 10pm 0.4 (1 to 3)

Total daily Cortisol 8.3

DHEA mean 1.32 (0.40 to 1.47)

DHEA/Cortisol ratio 15.84 (2 to 6)

Thyroid

TT4 55.7 (58-154)

TSH 6.44 (0.4-4)

FREE T4 10.5 (10 - 22)

FREE T3 5.49 (2.8 - 6.5)

FREE T4:T3 Ratio 1.91 (3 - 5)

Antibodies

THYROGLOBULIN 132 (0 - 40)

PEROXIDASE (MICROSOMAL) 320 (0-35)

SERUM FERRITIN 10 (7-90)

I'm thinking it points to Adrenal Fatigue, Hashimotos and low iron. I've read

lots but am a bit stuck on how to proceed. Although I intend to see Dr. P in a

couple of weeks, the prospect of living in what feels like an exhausting daily

nightmare until that time, does not fill me full of the joys of spring! But your

positive changes after treatment may just do that!

Thanks,

ada

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Thanks Gill - you really sound like you've come a long long way which is so

positive and heartening!

I'm in Stockport and am planning to see Dr. P there in June. I would have

travelled to whereever else he was going to hold a consultation, but I've become

so mentally and physically tired in the last 2 weeks that anything other than

going to work on auto-pilot, feels stressful and too much!

In preparation, i've bought some ERFA and Cortef - but am waiting for Dr. P's

diagnosis and treatment plan before I take these - but just wanted to have

everything to hand. I also bough some NAE on Friday, which when it arrives, I

will start to take - thats a good idea!!! Thanks!

ada

I was a mess - thinking about that Im not too bad at all now - my face isnt

puffy anymore, Im not in much pain, just a little some of the time but not much

and my energy level is much better - Ive walked for an hour or so on friday,

saturday and sunday and I work full time and Im still up at 10.30 - so not bad

at all!  Id say Im 90%+ better and still getting improvements!  I hope that

makes you believe that you can get better and if not 100% at least nearly!! 

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LOL! Thanks ! I'll look forward to that conversation with Dr. P!! I'll

probably start baking him gratitude cakes or something!! Can't wait!

Wow about that Ferritin 50 -70?? I've been below 15 for the past 15 years + Was

down at 2 at one point! That seems like a hill to climb, but I guess i've got

good company on this site!!

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> Stay around, read as many of the files and posts as you can, ask questions -

you are safe here, keeping in mind that none here are medically qualified and

only speaking from our own experiences and research.

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> jennyF

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Hi Ada, With those test results I think that your conclusions are accurate. While you are waiting to see Dr. P you can do quite a lot to prepare your body so it is more ready to cope with the thyroid hormones and adrenal supplements i'm sure will be recommended. first- that very low iron should be supplemented- it is that low that it would show up on an NHS test if you can bear facing your GP again, docs are not usually adverse to treating anaemia. Zinc and selenium are also vital to good thyroid function and vit D3 is also useful. Have a read of the files on the forum site as there is a lot of useful stuff there. > thyroid treatment > From: nzeria01@...> Date: Mon, 24 May 2010 20:38:01 +0000> Subject: What does 'feeling better' feel like for you?> > Hi All, > > I'm new to this site, and am looking for HOPE! I've been feeling off-kilter for soooo long, that I don't know what its like to feel better and have a personality not coloured by anxiety, fatigue, depression, confusion etc!!> > In the last month, feeling insulted by my GP (for the last time!), stumbling across the STTM site, linking to this site and getting my lab tests done have all led me here and your experiences have given me courage! But I'm still knackered, confused and teary!! Anyway, here are my test results for you to take a look at.> > Adrenal Saliva tests> > Sample 1 8am 2.9 (12 to 22)> Sample 2 12pm 3.3 (5 to 9) DHEA am 1.77> Sample 3 5pm 1.7 (3 to 7) DHEA pm 0.86> Sample 4 10pm 0.4 (1 to 3) > > Total daily Cortisol 8.3> DHEA mean 1.32 (0.40 to 1.47)> DHEA/Cortisol ratio 15.84 (2 to 6)> > > Thyroid> > TT4 55.7 (58-154)> TSH 6.44 (0.4-4)> FREE T4 10.5 (10 - 22)> FREE T3 5.49 (2.8 - 6.5)> FREE T4:T3 Ratio 1.91 (3 - 5)> > Antibodies> THYROGLOBULIN 132 (0 - 40)> PEROXIDASE (MICROSOMAL) 320 (0-35)> > > SERUM FERRITIN 10 (7-90) > > > I'm thinking it points to Adrenal Fatigue, Hashimotos and low iron. I've read lots but am a bit stuck on how to proceed. Although I intend to see Dr. P in a couple of weeks, the prospect of living in what feels like an exhausting daily nightmare until that time, does not fill me full of the joys of spring! But your positive changes after treatment may just do that!> > Thanks,> > ada> > > > ------------------------------------> > TPA is not medically qualified. Consult with a qualified medical practitioner before changing medication.> >

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- THANKS SO MUCH!! That's really useful information. l knew what the

diagnosis would be but not in relative terms - especially with my adrenals. I'll

start on the NAE as soon I get them in the post! Thanks, ada

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> The good news is that to me, you look like you're good at converting from T4

to t3. That's a trick that a lot of us can't do Your T3 is good

considering that your T4 is bottom end of the range.

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Thanks Sheila. I'm really beginning to build up an idea of how to start to

proceed with treatment. Thats really useful and appreciated! Thanks Ada

> Hello Ada - welcome to our happy little band of Thyroidians. I sincerely

> hope you do get all the help and support you so obviously need. If ever you

> write and you don't get a response (this is an extremely busy group at

> times), repost your message with the word BUMP in the subject heading, so we

> know you are still waiting for a response. There IS hope - and you will find

> that light at the end of the tunnel.

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Thanks . I'm glad to feel like I can do useful things in the meantime

before I get to see Dr. P. Ada

first- that very low iron should be supplemented- it is that low that it would

show up on an NHS test if you can bear facing your GP again, docs are not

usually adverse to treating anaemia. Zinc and selenium are also vital to good

thyroid function and vit D3 is also useful. Have a read of the files on the

forum site as there is a lot of useful stuff there.

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Hi Ada - I think Peatfield would not be advising you to start on

Cortef or Erfa thyroid right from the start - though you may well need them

later. He usually recommends boosting your adrenals first with adrenal

glandulars, to be followed by a thyroid supplement (not a hormone) to boost

your thyroid first, and then gradually introduces thyroid hormone replacement.

It's good that you have also bought some NAE and you might be wise to buy some

Nutri Thyroid too (you can buy this from Nutri Ltd with a 33% discount for

members of TPA) = see the FILES section of this forum web site.

Luv - Sheila

In preparation, i've bought some ERFA and Cortef - but am waiting for Dr. P's

diagnosis and treatment plan before I take these - but just wanted to have

everything to hand. I also bough some NAE on Friday, which when it arrives, I

will start to take - thats a good idea!!! Thanks!

ada