Guest guest Posted August 26, 2010 Report Share Posted August 26, 2010 - They have tested your TOTAL T3 and not your FREE T3 and it is Free T3 we need to know the result. Free T4 of 15 probably may be OK, but we don't know whether you are not converting this mainly inactive hormone to T3. You might need to lower your levothyroxine even further as it could be causing symptoms of toxicity - the test measures the amount of T4 in the blood, but it may be going nowhere. Before anything, please ensure that you are not suffering with low adrenal reserve (see the medical questionnaires in our FILES section) and complete both the Adrenal one and the one for Systemic Candida. If you score high on either of these, you need to get these sorted as no amount of thyroid hormone is going to be able to get into the cells to do their job if you have adrenal fatigue or candida. As doctors are reluctant to treat adrenals unless you have 's or Cushing's disease, you may well have to be prepared to treat these yourself, but we have plenty of information available to help you to do this. Also, ask your GP to test your ferritin, vitamin B12, vitamin D3, magnesium, folate, copper and zinc to see whether any of these are low in the range. Post your results with the reference range and we will help you interpret them. Again, if any of these are low in the range, you will need to supplement whatever is low in order for the thyroid hormone to be properly absorbed. In the 'Adrenal' folder, you will also see that there is some Home Testing you can do to see if this could be your problem. See the attached and go through each point as a process of elimination. Luv - Sheila I'm wondering if any of you kind people can shed some light on these results... I was on 175/150mcgs Levothyroxine alternate days till I tried to increase my T3 up to 40 mcgs, but then had palpitations at night and the advice was to lower my T4 to 150mcgs then increase the T3 to where I am now. I'm off to see Dr S shortly and I would be very grateful for any help at all . Thanks. TSH 0.2-4.5 mU/L <0.01 Free T4 9-21 pmol/L 15 Total T3 0.9-2.4 nmol/L 2.6 No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.441 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/3088 - Release Date: 08/25/10 18:34:00 1 of 1 File(s) Why thyroid hormone stops working.doc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 27, 2010 Report Share Posted August 27, 2010 Hi angela, Test results look Ok, except that the Ft£ is just over range- too mcuh can make you tires as well as too little. Have you looked at the vits minerals etc that can help with absorption. how are adrenals do you have candida or mercury amalgams? > thyroid treatment > From: angelamcguigan1@...> Date: Thu, 26 Aug 2010 15:16:12 +0000> Subject: Blood test results advice.> > Hello everyone, > I have just been given my most recent blood test results, i'm on 150mcgs, levothyroxine and 40mcgs T3.> I'm feeling great now compared to what I was, still have some leg pains, and thought I noticed the shooting pains I used to get in my hands/arms yesterday for a short while,and people have noticed I'm also getting slightly out of breath again, whilst exerting myself, ( all symptoms I used to have while on T4 only).> I'm wondering if any of you kind people can shed some light on these results...> I was on 175/150mcgs Levothyroxine alternate days till I tried to increase my T3 up to 40 mcgs, but then had palpitations at night and the advice was to lower my T4 to 150mcgs then increase the T3 to where I am now. I'm off to see Dr S shortly and I would be very grateful for any help at all . Thanks.> > TSH 0.2-4.5 mU/L <0.01> Free T4 9-21 pmol/L 15> Total T3 0.9-2.4 nmol/L 2.6> > > > ------------------------------------> > TPA is not medically qualified. Consult with a qualified medical practitioner before changing medication.> > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 27, 2010 Report Share Posted August 27, 2010 Hi , This is from experience, I am not a moderator. Your T3 is what you need to feel well. If you can't convert the T4 to T3 you will have symptoms. My thoughts would be to keep lowering the T4 while adding more T3. Also checking Iron, B12, etc. T4 is taken so it can convert to T3. From your blood tests, it doesn't look like that is working. Best wishes to you, keep reading, asking questions, this group is great!! Donna > > Hello everyone, > > I have just been given my most recent blood test results, i'm on 150mcgs, levothyroxine and 40mcgs T3. > > I'm feeling great now compared to what I was, still have some leg pains, and thought I noticed the shooting pains I used to get in my hands/arms yesterday for a short while,and people have noticed I'm also getting slightly out of breath again, whilst exerting myself, ( all symptoms I used to have while on T4 only). > > I'm wondering if any of you kind people can shed some light on these results... > > I was on 175/150mcgs Levothyroxine alternate days till I tried to increase my T3 up to 40 mcgs, but then had palpitations at night and the advice was to lower my T4 to 150mcgs then increase the T3 to where I am now. I'm off to see Dr S shortly and I would be very grateful for any help at all . Thanks. > > > > TSH 0.2-4.5 mU/L <0.01 > > Free T4 9-21 pmol/L 15 > > Total T3 0.9-2.4 nmol/L 2.6 > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------ > > > > TPA is not medically qualified. Consult with a qualified medical practitioner before changing medication. > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 27, 2010 Report Share Posted August 27, 2010 Thanks everyone for your advice, My vit B12 and ferritin were on the low side but "within normal range", so I'm supplementing them with Holland and Barrett's B12 and Iron, on Dr S's advice....although I'm not sure if they are any good?...... I was on folic acid a while back because my folate levels were too low, but GP took me off it ( muttering something about too much folate causing cancer!) and hasn't checked my blood for this for a while.....so I'm not sure how my levels are..... I will check the adrenal files to see if there maybe a problem there as well, Thank's Sheila for that....being a "newbie"....I find this a bit confusing and difficult to follow at times...but with everyones kind help I'm sure I'll get there. Thanks again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 28, 2010 Report Share Posted August 28, 2010 Hi - many people join Thyroid patient Advocacy forum because they are totally frustrated with their treatment under the NHS because they continued to suffer symptoms, couldn't get a proper diagnosis or were being refused the medication they need to give them back their health, so who can blame them. One thing you need to take on board, and that is that TPA has done a lot of research into finding the reasons why sufferers of the symptoms of hypothyroidism continue to feel so unwell. There are many associated conditions that go hand in hand with hypothyroidism that NHS doctors are not even aware of because they are not taught about these in medical school and have little time to research themselves, so they see no reason to treat you with supplements. Each one of us has to decide whether to carry on taking the advice of our doctor and following his/her recommendations (i.e. stopping your folic acid etc) or whether to read up about these conditions and understand the connection to hypothyroidism and take these conditions into account. Information on these associated conditions and the recommended treatment for each is in our FILES section of this forum and on our web site www.tpa-uk.org.uk under 'Hypothyroidism' and then on the drop down Menu ' Associated Conditions'. Also, if you want to know more about what it means to be low in particular vitamins and minerals, simply type something like 'low folic acid hypothyroidism' into Google and read the information there. Doctors are there to help patients regain their normal health, however, because of a lack in their education, they can also harm their patients unknowingly because they don't know such conditions exist. Read the information in the FILES on 'ESSENTIAL SUPPLEMENTS' and show your doctor the references as to the connection between low minerals, vitamins and hypothyroidism. You don't tell us how much B12 and Iron you are taking. Can you let us know this please, and also, are you taking a sublingual form of B12 or tablets that you have to swallow? Luv - Sheila Thanks everyone for your advice, My vit B12 and ferritin were on the low side but " within normal range " , so I'm supplementing them with Holland and Barrett's B12 and Iron, on Dr S's advice....although I'm not sure if they are any good?...... I was on folic acid a while back because my folate levels were too low, but GP took me off it ( muttering something about too much folate causing cancer!) and hasn't checked my blood for this for a while.....so I'm not sure how my levels are..... No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.441 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/3096 - Release Date: 08/26/10 18:34:00 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 28, 2010 Report Share Posted August 28, 2010 Hi angela, Take vit C with your iron- it'll help with absorption and help prevent constipation which tends to go with iron supplements. thyroid treatment From: angelamcguigan1@...Date: Fri, 27 Aug 2010 17:04:50 -0400Subject: Re: Blood test results advice. Thanks everyone for your advice, My vit B12 and ferritin were on the low side but "within normal range", so I'm supplementing them with Holland and Barrett's B12 and Iron, on Dr S's advice....although I'm not sure if they are any good?...... I was on folic acid a while back because my folate levels were too low, but GP took me off it ( muttering something about too much folate causing cancer!) and hasn't checked my blood for this for a while.....so I'm not sure how my levels are..... I will check the adrenal files to see if there maybe a problem there as well, Thank's Sheila for that....being a "newbie"....I find this a bit confusing and difficult to follow at times...but with everyones kind help I'm sure I'll get there. Thanks again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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