Re: What happens to Iodine

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This site will help you understand the protocols and it's where most of us order

our IODORAl:

http://www.breastcancerchoices.org/iprotocol.html

Bromide is a Halide....like Chlorine and Floride, they are toxic to the system.

The way we remove bromide from the system is by salt loading with

unrefined/unprocessed natural sea salt. The salt attaches to the bromide and

carries it out through the urine. There are bromide tests you can buy to check

the amounts in your system.

This will answer your other questions:

http://curezone.com/faq/q.asp?a=13,281,2962 & q=634

Bromide is in everything now from your tv to your keyboard. I'll try to look for

another link which talks about this.....

JOT

> How do you remove Bromide and what's Bromide in? What are the symptoms of too

much Bromide in one's system?

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> Many thanks.

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> Anita x

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http://www.cea-life.com/minerals_health/seasalt.htm

Natural sea salt hasn't actually been in the sea for quite some time. Do a

google search on how it is harvested and this will answer your question.

It is also tested for contaminants.

JOT

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Hello JOT,

I have had similar dizzy-ness stuff as you mention, but it wasn't from iodine.It was from too much ERFA in the system and adrenal fatigue.

Yes, that had crossed my mind, since iodine is supposed to reduce the need for thyroid hormone. I also have a problem with adrenal fatigue.... so it is possible that the iodine has tipped the balance.... still – I felt better before I took any iodine and was coasting along nicely on 2 grains. - so do I really need extra iodine??As far as the *no sleep*, you only take iodine first thing in the morning andnever after 12:00 noon because you won't sleep. This is the case with *mostpeople* but there are some who can sleep with iodine at night.

Right – that would certainly explain my sleepless nights then.....

I'd cut back on the iodine if the dizziness is related to taking it. ARe youdoing the companion supplements and the salt loading with the iodine? This isvery important and must be done hand in hand. I'd ask , at the iodinegroup for insight into any problems you may be experiencing with iodine. I thinkit's important to have a good support team behind you and has not onlycured herself with iodine, she works for Brownstein.

No, I haven't got a clue what this is all about – I just took up to 5 drops Lugol's 7% in water every day – and lately took it at night, which obviously also was the wrong thing to do.... Think I have to do a bit of reading on the iodine list first and then see if has some idea of what might be going on with me.

Many thanks, JOT.

Love,

xx

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This came into my email box this morning:

http://www.vrp.com/minerals/ensure-lasting-health-with-this-lesser-known-miracle\

-mineral?utm_content=article3035 & utm_source=hn20100914 & utm_campaign=hn & utm_term=\

cid-unknown & utm_medium=email

JOT

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Here's the bromide article I find very educational:

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/dr-mercola/thyroid-health_b_472953.html

JOT

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hi christina ...sorry, i used the wrong terminology, i should have said

companion nutrients rather than co-factors ...it amounts to the same thing in

the end though, more supplements to throw down your throat unless of course you

are already taking them. i got the co-factors confused because one of the

companion nutrients is called atp co-factors (at least i think it is!!) ...ditto

to you, losing the will to live with all this supplementation b****x having

said that though i do BELIEVE that we can get proper functioning and as always

*the devil is in the detail*.

interesting about your tpos being over a hundred or something after three years

treatment ...i think i've had hashimoto's forever and a year ago the tpo was 813

(range less than 12) and the tg was nearly 3,0000 ...i saw the lovely dr p in

october last year and i mentioned the high antibodies and he said there was

probably another autoimmune thing going on but i didn't follow up questions due

to the slowness of my thinking (if you know what i mean!).

you said you WERE feeling surprisingly well until iodine ...well i'm wondering

two things, one of which is what made you decide to try iodine (if you felt

pretty good) and the second is that maybe candida is the unwanted component in

the woodpile? am i right in thinking you take or have taken treelac? low

stomach acid has to play into the whole thing too ..what a pain in the r****

this is

trish

ps the companion nutrients are listed (i think) in the first link of my last

post

http://www.naturalthyroidchoices.com/Halides.html

love to you too christina

trish

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> Hi Trish,

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> christina, have you been taking the co-factors receommended by the iodin

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> ...apparently that makes all the difference and is vitally important.

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> co-factors ??? what's that? [] [#-o] Guess I have a lot more

> reading and learning to do .....

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> I am taking so many pills and potions now (supplements) that I am just

[Guest guest]

I take Himalayan Salt, which is not sea salt but salt mined from

beneath the mountains.

Luv - Sheila

Hi folks,

Maybe this a stupid question but..........if the Kelp can be contaminated then

surely

the sea salt can be too?

I take Norwegian Kelp and unrefined Sea salt.

Love Tess

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So how does that

work exactly Trish - I have never heard of this, but would be interested in seeing

any research that has been done into this. Did you get this information from

the Iodine group, and if so, can you ask them for more details please as I am

sure a lot of people suffering with Candida would be very pleased to hear about

this.

Luv - Sheila

does your own thyroid still produce hormones or has it conked out completely?

one thing i picked up the other day was that painting the belly with iodine is

effective against candida.

best wishes

trish

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> Could I chime into this discussion with a question please?

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> I've read Drs. Brownstein's, Peatfield's, Broda ' and

> Mark Starr's advice on iodine and I am well aware of the important

> role iodine plays in our general � not just thyroid- health. So I

> bought some Lugol's 7% solution and started building up from 1 to

> eventually 5 drops per day ( I take 2 grain's of NDT)

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i suppose it works because iodine is anti-fungal and would be absorbed through

the skin into the gut???? i don't really know i'm afraid, just passing on info

i've gleaned (as i said, gossip really)! i will see if i can find some better

info on it sheila.

trish

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> > Mark Starr's advice on iodine and I am well aware of the important

> > role iodine plays in our general � not just thyroid- health. So I

> > bought some Lugol's 7% solution and started building up from 1 to

> > eventually 5 drops per day ( I take 2 grain's of NDT)

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Iodine painting does help a great deal for any body part really. It absorbs

slowly but every effective on the breasts as well. People paint all tumors or

growths to help them shrink. I believe they have an iodine vaginal douche which

has been talked about too for candida, but that it's fairly messy, and iodine in

lugol's form, stains easily. But it does absorb well through the vaginal

tissues. Trish, you might want to ask about that one too.

Personally, I find nothing better than wild oil of oregano for candida or any

fungal ailments.

> i suppose it works because iodine is anti-fungal and would be absorbed through

the skin into the gut???? i don't really know i'm afraid, just passing on info

i've gleaned (as i said, gossip really)! i will see if i can find some better

info on it sheila.

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> trish

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Yeah I know Sea salt hasn't been in the sea for some time, Sea salt is

evaporated

sea water. I use coarse unrefined Celtic sea salt which I thought was the best

but on reading your link there is concerns of contamination. Thanks...I'll still

use it though

as I love it.

I knew how it was harvested but I didn't know it was tested, it's meant to be

unrefined/natural.

" Of course there are other forms of processed crystal salts extracted from the

sea that retain far more of the constituent elements of original sea salt.

'Celtic sea salt' is one of these. Celtic sea salt comes in many forms and is

characterised by grain size, colour and dampness. The whiter and drier the salt

the more it has been washed and 'purified'.

One of the concerns regarding Celtic and other 'natural' sea salt is the purity

of the source sea water. Contamination occurs during the drying process (often

outdoors), in addition to the alteration and loss of constituents by 'natural'

and process washing of the salt stockpile. Much of the Celtic salt produced

comes from Brittany in north-western France. Northern Europe is one of the most

densely populated regions on our planet (refer: Pollution of the marine

environment, NASA night map).

Consequently the waters off Brittany, which flow directly out of the English

Channel, contain high levels of pollution. An alarming report issued recently

notes detectable levels of pharmaceuticals passing through the population and

into the waterways. "

Cheers Tess

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> http://www.cea-life.com/minerals_health/seasalt.htm

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> Natural sea salt hasn't actually been in the sea for quite some time. Do a

google search on how it is harvested and this will answer your question.

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> It is also tested for contaminants.

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> JOT

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So far as I have been able to discover, the iodine loading test is not available

in the UK. The Breakspear Hospital offers it and uses a lab in the US, but

according to the US-based Iodine Group, this lab is unreliable.

Miriam

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> No, that test is actually extremely unreliable. Your GP should be able to

arrange to get this test done. The best testing technique was developed by Dr

Abrahams, in which a measured dose of iodine/iodide is consumed and for the

following 24 hours urine is collected and a sample of that is then analysed to

see the amount of the challenge dose being eliminated.

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According to my mercury-free dentist, we shouldn't be using sea salt, seaweed,

fish or any other products from the sea. However he is just giving a counsel of

perfection as regards mercury. These days there is very little that is 100%

safe so you have to weigh up the pros and cons and make compromises.

Miriam

> Maybe this a stupid question but..........if the Kelp can be contaminated then

surely the sea salt can be too?

> I take Norwegian Kelp and unrefined Sea salt.

> Love Tess

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Here is a web page that explains about bromide. However, bear in mind that it

is US-based so not everything in it applies here in the UK.

http://www.breastcancerchoices.org/bromidedominancetheory.html

Miriam

> How do you remove Bromide and what's Bromide in? What are the symptoms of too

much Bromide in one's system?

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> Many thanks.

> Anita x

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Have you managed to find the iodine loading test or the bromide loading test in

the UK?

Thanks,

Miriam

> There are bromide tests you can buy to check the amounts in your system.

> JOT

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Unreliable in what way Miriam? I hate being given such stories

without the true facts.

Luv - Sheila

So far as I have been able to discover, the

iodine loading test is not available in the UK. The Breakspear Hospital offers

it and uses a lab in the US, but according to the US-based Iodine Group,

this lab is unreliable.

Miriam

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Hello again Trish and all,

....ditto to you, losing the will to live with all this supplementation b****x havingsaid that though i do BELIEVE that we can get proper functioning and as always*the devil is in the detail*.

So true, I know ... only the thing with detail is – one detail zooms into the next and the next and in the end you no longer see the picture, only the detail. This is how I finished up with having my life regulated by supplements. I wasn't joking when I said I take 25+ per day plus now another 20 pills or so of HCl. I have lost count exactly how many pills I swallow every day and I try not to think of the cost too much. But now with this latest bomb shell of having discovered that I have apparently no stomach acid left worth talking about, the reality of it all has hit me hard. I am fed up to my back teeth of living from pill to pill...

Btw – I looked at the supplements needed in conjunction with iodine on the iodine forum and it seems that I take nearly all of what is recommended anyway, except for the high amounts of B3, which would not add up to the amounts listed, although I take some within the B-complex and the NAX.interesting about your tpos being over a hundred or something after three yearstreatment ...i think i've had hashimoto's forever and a year ago the tpo was 813(range less than 12) and the tg was nearly 3,0000 ...i saw the lovely dr p inoctober last year and i mentioned the high antibodies and he said there wasprobably another autoimmune thing going on but i didn't follow up questions dueto the slowness of my thinking (if you know what i mean!).

Only too well, unfortunately. It drives me bonkers that I can always think of the best lines after the event when others are so quick off the mark !

Jeeez, that's a lot of autoantibodies! Mine are less impressive – I started off with 300something and each year it seems to be reducing. If I have the correct idea about this AA business (and right now I am no longer sure about anything), autoantibodies increase when they launch an attack on the thyroid gland ... then the numbers reduce again. But after each attack, I assume, the numbers in general decrease and in the end, when there is no thyroid gland left to attack, they have burned themselves out and disappear.... or so I understand. – Please, somebody correct me if I am drawing the wrong picture here –

you said you WERE feeling surprisingly well until iodine ...well i'm wonderingtwo things, one of which is what made you decide to try iodine (if you feltpretty good) and the second is that maybe candida is the unwanted component inthe woodpile? am i right in thinking you take or have taken treelac? lowstomach acid has to play into the whole thing too ..what a pain in the r****this is

Yep – good questions !!

What made me try Iodine? – Curiosity! ... and as the saying goes – curiosity kills the cat! I read too much, and all the good doctors point out the importance of iodine and that most of us are deficient. So I thought to myself - what's another few drops a day in the scheme of things.......

Incidentally, 2 days off iodine now and I had a decent night's sleep and I feel less `drunk', but still a bit wobbly.

Could Candida be the unwanted component in the woodpile? – You bet, it is ! I was set up nicely for developing Candida at the age of 3 months, when I was hospitalized for malabsorption. It was touch and go, but I pulled through with the help of 6 weeks on antibiotics and being fed intravenously for the same length of time because I could not keep anything down. 3 months later I had reached my birth weight again and was sent home. In hindsight I realize that this was when it all started. It still took 42 years before my immune system faltered and I was diagnosed with Candida... in Australia, btw, where we lived at the time. Can't imagine I would have gotten diagnosed with that here in the UK. Ever since then I have been fighting Candida with varying success (and yes, mostly with ThreeLac and additional probiotics in addition to `clean living') . I realize now that having such low stomach acid must have helped to perpetuate the problem. Candida albicans thrives in acidic conditions inside the body, but can't survive the acidity of normal stomach acid. Honestly, I have to fight the urge to suck up the battery acid from my car.... if that give you some measure of how fed up I am with it all. I might give up and go and see Dr. Mantzourani in the end, but fear I 'd finish up with more tests and more pills.....aaarrrgh !

JOT – can you tell me please, where is the best place to buy wild oil of oregano? That must be just about the only thing I haven't tried yet for Candida.

Love,

xx

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I believe Dr Brownstein of the Iodine Project actually went shopping and bought a range of different salts and tested them in his lab. The salt that he recommends on the basis of these tests is Celtic Sea Salt.

I also believe that heavy metals are just that! They are heavy and tend to go to the bottom of the water course they are in. This may be why seaweed, which grows on the bottom of the sea gets contaminated and sea water, which produces salt, doesn't.

I know from doing translations that the bottom of main sewers are full of sludge that has a high concentration in heavy metals that come out of car exhausts and are washed off the road during rain storms. It has a tendency to sink to the bottom of the water that it is in.

MacGilchrist

From: Sheila <sheila@...>thyroid treatment Sent: Tue, 14 September, 2010 21:22:02Subject: RE: Re: What happens to Iodine

I take Himalayan Salt, which is not sea salt but salt mined from beneath the mountains.

Luv - Sheila

Hi folks,Maybe this a stupid question but..........if the Kelp can be contaminated then surelythe sea salt can be too?I take Norwegian Kelp and unrefined Sea salt.Love Tess

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Well they don't say in what way. Perhaps the labs they recommend show

consistent results and this particular lab gives different results to those? I

am just guessing here.

I wonder whether the loading tests are really showing what they are purported to

indicate. Some people from the Iodine group had tests done before taking

iodine supplements and again after a few months. In some cases the results

showed a worsening of their iodine status (according to the lab tests). Well

that just doesn't make sense, but no explanation was offered for it.

Miriam

> Unreliable in what way Miriam? I hate being given such stories without the

true facts.

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> Luv - Sheila

> So far as I have been able to discover, the iodine loading test is not

available in the UK. The Breakspear Hospital offers it and uses a lab in the US,

but according to the US-based Iodine Group, this lab is unreliable.

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> Miriam

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what a difficult start to life christina ..i think my problems stem from to many

antibiotics from too young as well but i wasn't as young as you.

trying to put a positive spin here on your recent discovery that you need loads

of hcl tablets ...maybe it will make so much difference to your ability to

absorb nutrients that you will feel tons better and won't need so many of the

other supplements...i hope so anyway.

trish

ps i agree it's not helpful to get stick in details!

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