Adding in NDT sooner than plannes

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Hi, My adrenals and thyroid are both very low and I just started on Isocort

yesterday. Today I'm on 5mg. Instead of feeling any better I feel worse - much

more depressed, lethargic, tears, really hopeless and miserable.

I was wondering, before I started the Isocort I experimented with taking a tiny

little scrap of Westroid and with in an hour or so was feeling noticably better.

This is the first time I've ever had thyroid hormones in my body and wanted to

see what happened.

I was wondering if I can start adding in some NDT now instead of waiting til I'm

up to higher levels of the Isocort, I know it's not recommended until 15mg or so

but I just feel so awful and desperately need some T3 I think, if so how much

(I've got half grain tabs and plan on buying some Erfa).

Just gonna post my results again for clarity. Would be grateful for any opinion,

just wonder why I always feel worse when my body gets any cortisol and what I

can do about it?

Adrenals:

1.1 (12 - 22)

8.3 (5 - 9)

1.1 (3 - 7)

0.5 (1 - 3)

Thyroid:

T4:241 (347 - 1994)

T3: 463 (592 - 1850)

Many thanks

Hannah

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Hi Hannah, With such low adrenals it is likely that as you increase the NDT your adrenals would be increasingly likelly to fail to cope. This is why it is usually suggested that you boost adrenals first. The other school of thought is that 'fix the thyroid and the adrenals will fix themselves. I think that the poorer state the adrenals are in the less likely they are capable of fixing themselves without support. Feeling rotten in your current state is to be expected- lots of toxins have built up an need to be expelled- this takes time and sometimes you will feel worse for a bit. All you can do is try a small amount and see how it goes- maybe half grain. and if all ok try increasing adrenals before trying another NDT increase.- moving them both up alternately. I'm concerned that you are going it alone with such poor results- will your GP not listen? > thyroid treatment > From: juicy7779@...> Date: Tue, 3 Aug 2010 13:41:31 +0000> Subject: Adding in NDT sooner than plannes> > Hi, My adrenals and thyroid are both very low and I just started on Isocort yesterday. Today I'm on 5mg. Instead of feeling any better I feel worse - much more depressed, lethargic, tears, really hopeless and miserable.> > I was wondering, before I started the Isocort I experimented with taking a tiny little scrap of Westroid and with in an hour or so was feeling noticably better. This is the first time I've ever had thyroid hormones in my body and wanted to see what happened.> > I was wondering if I can start adding in some NDT now instead of waiting til I'm up to higher levels of the Isocort, I know it's not recommended until 15mg or so but I just feel so awful and desperately need some T3 I think, if so how much (I've got half grain tabs and plan on buying some Erfa).> > Just gonna post my results again for clarity. Would be grateful for any opinion, just wonder why I always feel worse when my body gets any cortisol and what I can do about it?> > Adrenals:> > 1.1 (12 - 22)> 8.3 (5 - 9)> 1.1 (3 - 7)> 0.5 (1 - 3)> > Thyroid:> > T4:241 (347 - 1994)> T3: 463 (592 - 1850)> > Many thanks> Hannah> > > > ------------------------------------> > TPA is not medically qualified. Consult with a qualified medical practitioner before changing medication.> >

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Hi thanks you for your response.

I haven't seen my GP about these issues as I'm seeing Dr Peatfield and thought

that was enough but I don't get the chance to talk with him at the moment so I

will write the GP a letter explaining the situation. It's very unlikely that

even though sympathetic she'll have much understanding of the issues but she may

be on my side at least.

Could you explain what sort of toxins are expelled and why when you start

supporting the adrenals?

Also is it a good idea to get a reverse T3 test done at this point or wait until

later on?

I have no idea how my thyroid results relates to others' - are they bad enough

to make me feel as awful as I do or do you think there are lots of other

factors?

Many thanks

Hannah

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> Hi Hannah,

> With such low adrenals it is likely that as you increase the

NDT your adrenals would be increasingly likelly to fail to cope. This is why it

is usually suggested that you boost adrenals first. The other school of

thought is that 'fix the thyroid and the adrenals will fix themselves. I think

that the poorer state the adrenals are in the less likely they are capable of

fixing themselves without support.

> Feeling rotten in your current state is to be expected- lots of toxins have

built up an need to be expelled- this takes time and sometimes you will feel

worse for a bit. All you can do is try a small amount and see how it goes- maybe

half grain. and if all ok try increasing adrenals before trying another NDT

increase.- moving them both up alternately.

> I'm concerned that you are going it alone with such poor results- will your

GP not listen?

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Hi Hannah, Has you GP done a TSH? with those urine results I wouldn't be surprised to find it sufficiently raised to get a NHS diagnosis? with such low adrenals you doc should refer you for a short syntacthen test- it may not show much as it is for complete failure of adrenals- 's disease- but yours are really low. We usually get folk going to Dr. P after they get the brush off from their GP's not before- with you results I'd try that route- after ll it's free! Send you GP a letter if you don't want to explain face to face- you can list all your symptoms- see the nice comparatinve symptoms list on Drrind.com give test results body temps before you get out of bed and ask for a referral to an endo if necassary. > thyroid treatment > From: juicy7779@...> Date: Tue, 3 Aug 2010 19:30:32 +0000> Subject: Re: Adding in NDT sooner than plannes> > > Hi thanks you for your response. > > I haven't seen my GP about these issues as I'm seeing Dr Peatfield and thought that was enough but I don't get the chance to talk with him at the moment so I will write the GP a letter explaining the situation. It's very unlikely that even though sympathetic she'll have much understanding of the issues but she may be on my side at least.> > Could you explain what sort of toxins are expelled and why when you start supporting the adrenals?> > Also is it a good idea to get a reverse T3 test done at this point or wait until later on?> > I have no idea how my thyroid results relates to others' - are they bad enough to make me feel as awful as I do or do you think there are lots of other factors?> > Many thanks > Hannah> > >> > > > Hi Hannah,> > With such low adrenals it is likely that as you increase the NDT your adrenals would be increasingly likelly to fail to cope. This is why it is usually suggested that you boost adrenals first. The other school of thought is that 'fix the thyroid and the adrenals will fix themselves. I think that the poorer state the adrenals are in the less likely they are capable of fixing themselves without support. > > Feeling rotten in your current state is to be expected- lots of toxins have built up an need to be expelled- this takes time and sometimes you will feel worse for a bit. All you can do is try a small amount and see how it goes- maybe half grain. and if all ok try increasing adrenals before trying another NDT increase.- moving them both up alternately.> > I'm concerned that you are going it alone with such poor results- will your GP not listen?> > > > > >> > > > > ------------------------------------> > TPA is not medically qualified. Consult with a qualified medical practitioner before changing medication.> >