Re: Blood Test Results BUMP

[Guest guest]

I am very grateful to you for replying. Thank you.

I just wondered if anyone had any other suggestions or thoughts for me as I'm

feeling pretty desperate. I realise I probably did too long a post to wade

through!

I guess my main questions from these results are:-

What does the low free T4 signify? I thought this could indicate a pitutitary

problem.

Would I be better on Erfa than Nature Throid (I bought this because you can

purchase it in a smaller amounts than the 500 of Erfa)?

Are some people actually better on Levothyroxine? I wasn't feeling well on

150mg of levothyroxine, but I'm feeling even worse now on 2 grains of NDT.

I've been gradually working up, and have been on 2 grains of NDT for just over a

week now. Should I increase again, or is it too soon?

I really would appreciate advice because it is not possible to get any from the

doctor!

Sue

>

> Please can you advise me on whether you think these results should be regarded

as " Normal No Action " which is what my GP has concluded. I have written the

reference range in brackets.

>

> TSH 1.4 (0.10 - 4.00)

> Free T4 11.8 (11 - 22)

> (Free T3 previously requested by different GP but lab wouldn't do it)

[Ed]

[Guest guest]

Chrissie,

Do you have the reference ranges please, it's impossible to tell if these

results are good or bad unless we know the ranges. However, TSH ought not

really to be more than 1.

What are you on 30 mg of?

>

> Hi everyone.

> Anyone like to comment on message 96343?

>

> I`d really appreciate opinions on my last blood tests TSH 4.5, FT4 7.7 and FT3

5.0 My dosage was 20mcg, now 30mcg in two doses.

>

> Thanx

> Chrissie

>

[Guest guest]

Sorry ,results with reference range as follows

4.5 (0.3-5.5)

7.7(11.5-22.7)

5.0 (<7.1)

Dosage was 20mcg T3 (Liothyronine), since blood test results, raised to 30mcg in

split dose.

Seems like under medication still.Still have symptoms but slightly better.

Chrissie

> >

> > Hi everyone.

> > Anyone like to comment on message 96343?

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

Can I bump this again please?

Chrissie

> >

> > Chrissie,

> >

> > Do you have the reference ranges please, it's impossible to tell if these

results are good or bad unless we know the ranges. However, TSH ought not

really to be more than 1.

> >

> > What are you on 30 mg of?

> >

> >

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

Hi Chrissie

>TSH -

4.5 (0.3-5.5)

>free

T4 -7.7(11.5-22.7)

>free

T3 -5.0 (<7.1)

>Dosage

was 20mcg T3 (Liothyronine), since blood test results, raised to 30mcg in split

dose.

TSH is too high, even though it is within the reference range

(only just!). It should be around 1.0. In Europe, the TSH ref. range is 0.3 to

2.5 - so this results would have been taken seriously over there.

Free T4 is very low, but this often happens when you are taking

T3 only medication.

Free T3 is OK, but this results depends on whether you had

stopped your thyroid hormone replacement on the day before you had your blood

drawn or whether you had taken it on the morning you had the test. Can you let

us know this.

If you are not suffering with any symptoms such as palpitations,

sweating, dizziness, 'dire rear' feeling spaced out, agitated and over-active,

there appears no reason why you should not try the experiment of increasing

your dose of T3 by another 10mcgs. Doses of T3 should be increased in this way

every 3 to 4 weeks (if no adverse reactions) until you find the dose that has

stopped your symptoms. After any increase however, if ever you do start to get

these symptoms, then don't take any more T3 that day, and the following day, go

back to the dose you were on before the last increase. This is how you find the

dose that your body needs.

What other supplements are you taking?

> Sorry ,results with reference range as follows

> 4.5 (0.3-5.5)

> 7.7(11.5-22.7)

> 5.0 (<7.1)

> Dosage was 20mcg T3 (Liothyronine), since blood test results, raised to

30mcg in split dose.

> Seems like under medication still. Still have symptoms but slightly

better.

>

> Chrissie

>

[Guest guest]

Hi Sheila

Thanks for your reply and yours,

No I didnt take medication in the morning of the blood test(nor the afternoon

before)

No, I do not have any hyper symptoms but I have a very very cautious GP who has

asked me not to raise the doage inside the 6-8 weeks before the next blood

test.It is frustrating but I need to keep him on board. At this rate, I might

reach my optimal dose this time next year!!

I am taking one multi,Vit D3 10ug+400iu, Co enzyme Q10 60mg,Zinc 30mg,B12 50ug

+1000,1 Bcomplex,Cod Liver Oil 1000mg and magnesium 250mg +50mg in the multi. I

am low in B12 at last test -369,low in zinc and very high in ferritin.

Hope this helps.

Chrissie

>

> Hi Chrissie

> >TSH - 4.5 (0.3-5.5)

> >free T4 -7.7(11.5-22.7)

> >free T3 -5.0 (<7.1)

> >Dosage was 20mcg T3 (Liothyronine), since blood test results, raised to

> 30mcg in split dose.

>

> TSH is too high, even though it is within the reference range (only just!).

> It should be around 1.0. In Europe, the TSH ref. range is 0.3 to 2.5 - so

> this results would have been taken seriously over there.

>

> Free T4 is very low, but this often happens when you are taking T3 only

> medication.

>

> Free T3 is OK, but this results depends on whether you had stopped your

> thyroid hormone replacement on the day before you had your blood drawn or

> whether you had taken it on the morning you had the test. Can you let us

> know this.

>

> If you are not suffering with any symptoms such as palpitations, sweating,

> dizziness, 'dire rear' feeling spaced out, agitated and over-active, there

> appears no reason why you should not try the experiment of increasing your

> dose of T3 by another 10mcgs. Doses of T3 should be increased in this way

> every 3 to 4 weeks (if no adverse reactions) until you find the dose that

> has stopped your symptoms. After any increase however, if ever you do start

> to get these symptoms, then don't take any more T3 that day, and the

> following day, go back to the dose you were on before the last increase.

> This is how you find the dose that your body needs.

>

> What other supplements are you taking?

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Chrissie

This is not how you

should raise your dose of T3. If there have been no adverse effects, you should

raise it by 10mcgs (12.5mcgs depending on brand) at 3 to 4 weekly intervals.

There is no point in waiting 6 to 8 weeks - as you say, this is going to drag

out reaching your optimal level. If, after an increase in dose you start to get

palpitations and other symptoms of hyPERThyroidism, you don't take any more T3

that day, and the following day, you go back to the dose you were on the day

before. That is how you find your optimal level. Your high TSH shows that you

are still under-medicated.

It is up to you

whether you are working to please your GP, or working to get your own normal

health back again. The GP is not going to strike you off if you go against his

wishes and use a bit of common sense. So long as patients do their

homework and learn about how the thyroid system works, he should appreciate

that. Also, according to the GMC's 'Duties of a Doctor' both patients and

doctors must work together.

As far as your

supplements are concerned, you should be taking 4000iu Vitamin D3. CoEnzymeQ10

at least 100 mgs. Not sure I understand your B12 - what is the 50ug you

are taking and is the 1000mcgs sublingual B12 and taking 1 daily?

Sheila

No I didnt take medication in the morning of the blood test(nor the afternoon

before)

No, I do not have any hyper symptoms but I have a very very cautious GP who has

asked me not to raise the doage inside the 6-8 weeks before the next blood test.It

is frustrating but I need to keep him on board. At this rate, I might reach my

optimal dose this time next year!!

I am taking one multi,Vit D3 10ug+400iu, Co enzyme Q10 60mg,Zinc 30mg,B12 50ug

+1000,1 Bcomplex,Cod Liver Oil 1000mg and magnesium 250mg +50mg in the multi. I

am low in B12 at last test -369,low in zinc and very high in ferritin.

Hope this helps.

Chrissie

>

> Hi Chrissie

> >TSH - 4.5 (0.3-5.5)

> >free T4 -7.7(11.5-22.7)

> >free T3 -5.0 (<7.1)

> >Dosage was 20mcg T3 (Liothyronine), since blood test results, raised

to

> 30mcg in split dose.

>

> TSH is too high, even though it is within the reference range (only

just!).

> It should be around 1.0. In Europe, the TSH ref. range is 0.3 to 2.5 - so

> this results would have been taken seriously over there.

>

> Free T4 is very low, but this often happens when you are taking T3 only

> medication.

>

> Free T3 is OK, but this results depends on whether you had stopped your

> thyroid hormone replacement on the day before you had your blood drawn or

> whether you had taken it on the morning you had the test. Can you let us

> know this.

>

> If you are not suffering with any symptoms such as palpitations, sweating,

> dizziness, 'dire rear' feeling spaced out, agitated and over-active, there

> appears no reason why you should not try the experiment of increasing your

> dose of T3 by another 10mcgs. Doses of T3 should be increased in this way

> every 3 to 4 weeks (if no adverse reactions) until you find the dose that

> has stopped your symptoms. After any increase however, if ever you do

start

> to get these symptoms, then don't take any more T3 that day, and the

> following day, go back to the dose you were on before the last increase.

> This is how you find the dose that your body needs.

>

> What other supplements are you taking?

>

>

>

>

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