Guest guest Posted June 6, 2001 Report Share Posted June 6, 2001 Hi all I haven't been well enough to follow the list for a while including this particular thread (so apologies if this has already been discussed). My ferritin levels are also low and I was wondering if there is a way to supplement the ferritin without having to take a lot of iron (ie, a way to supplement the individual element of ferritin). I've read that low ferritin levels can cause low dopamine levels. Does anyone know any more about this relationship and what symptoms can be improved by bringing ferritin levels back to normal? Many thanks best wishes Vicky Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 17, 2001 Report Share Posted July 17, 2001 >Reference range is 10 - 270 and my ferritin is a 3. Hi I have also had very low ferritin. At one stage it was undetectable in tests. You say you are taking immunopro. I havnt taken this but have heard that it contains high amounts of L-cystein. I took L-cystein for quite a while because it really reduced my pain and symptoms. It removes many poisons from the gut and body. However I believe It can also chelate heavy metals and essential minerals. This chelating of essential minerals might include iron. You could try supplimenting with iron at a different time of the day as you take immunopro. Hope this helps. Squirel Reference range is 10 - > 270 and my ferritin is a 3. > > So, plan of action? This is how I see it, pls someone confirm or set > me straight. > > I have been on whey (ImmunePro, etc) for years now. Obviously not > kicking up the iron. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 17, 2001 Report Share Posted July 17, 2001 , > Is it common doctor knowlegde that a bacteria could be causing low > ferritin or do I have to convince my MD of that too? YES! Nelly Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 17, 2001 Report Share Posted July 17, 2001 , HIT THE ABX! Nelly Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 17, 2001 Report Share Posted July 17, 2001 Nelly and all, Yes, I'm going to have to think hard now and maybe I will... Does any Cheney patient here know what he does with ferritin levels like this? Also, I don't think my doc is going to do abx without a plan and knowing what we are trying to kill....oiy. > , > HIT THE ABX! > Nelly Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 17, 2001 Report Share Posted July 17, 2001 I have ferretin problems as well, I had 25.5 last year and it went down to 18.5 in a year. I was taking Solgar gentle iron but my doctor said that a)I'm not absorbing it and b)the dosage is lousy. Anyhow he put me on an iron rich diet with iron supplementation and after 3 months I only went back up to 23.4...so we are trying a different form of supplement and I haven't re-taken the ferretin, he told me to wait three months, but I had to take a blood test for something else a month after starting the other iron and my hemoglobin had gone up from 12.7 to 14 in one month....so I guess it is helping. Judy B. Re: Low Ferritin > >Reference range is 10 - > 270 and my ferritin is a 3. > > > > Hi > > I have also had very low ferritin. At one stage it was undetectable > in tests. > You say you are taking immunopro. I havnt taken this but > have heard that it contains high amounts of L-cystein. > I took L-cystein for quite a while because it really reduced my pain > and symptoms. > It removes many poisons from the gut and body. However I believe It > can also chelate heavy metals and essential minerals. This chelating > of essential minerals might include iron. > You could try supplimenting with iron at a different time of the day > as you take immunopro. > Hope this helps. > > Squirel > > Reference range is 10 - > > 270 and my ferritin is a 3. > > > > > > > > So, plan of action? This is how I see it, pls someone confirm or > set > > me straight. > > > > I have been on whey (ImmunePro, etc) for years now. Obviously not > > kicking up the iron. > > > This list is intended for patients to share personal experiences with each other, not to give medical advice. If you are interested in any treatment discussed here, please consult your doctor. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 18, 2001 Report Share Posted July 18, 2001 Judy, As Nelly says - have you tried antibiotics? It MUST be worth a try and it seems the result would be quite obvious? n At 02:08 18/07/01, you wrote: >I have ferretin problems as well, I had 25.5 last year and it went down to >18.5 in a year. I was taking Solgar gentle iron but my doctor said that >a)I'm not absorbing it and b)the dosage is lousy. >Anyhow he put me on an iron rich diet with iron supplementation and after 3 >months I only went back up to 23.4...so we are trying a different form of >supplement and I haven't re-taken the ferretin, he told me to wait three >months, but I had to take a blood test for something else a month after >starting the other iron and my hemoglobin had gone up from 12.7 to 14 in one >month....so I guess it is helping. >Judy B. > Re: Low Ferritin > > > > >Reference range is 10 - > > 270 and my ferritin is a 3. > > > > > > > > Hi > > > > I have also had very low ferritin. At one stage it was undetectable > > in tests. > > You say you are taking immunopro. I havnt taken this but > > have heard that it contains high amounts of L-cystein. > > I took L-cystein for quite a while because it really reduced my pain > > and symptoms. > > It removes many poisons from the gut and body. However I believe It > > can also chelate heavy metals and essential minerals. This chelating > > of essential minerals might include iron. > > You could try supplimenting with iron at a different time of the day > > as you take immunopro. > > Hope this helps. > > > > Squirel > > > > Reference range is 10 - > > > 270 and my ferritin is a 3. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > So, plan of action? This is how I see it, pls someone confirm or > > set > > > me straight. > > > > > > I have been on whey (ImmunePro, etc) for years now. Obviously not > > > kicking up the iron. > > > > > > This list is intended for patients to share personal experiences with each >other, not to give medical advice. If you are interested in any treatment >discussed here, please consult your doctor. > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 18, 2001 Report Share Posted July 18, 2001 Low ferritin: ( just sent me a discussion from the AMALGAM list that said mercury could also be responsible. Will try to talk to my doc about all this Friday and report back. A chiropractor in my area claims JMT (anyone know it? A chiro technique) can wipe out mycoplasmas - another reason why there may be low ferritin levels. Cheney patients - if you are low low low in ferritin but he is hesitant to put you on abx, what then? I think my gut would have a really hard time w abx...just finally got it to work pretty well again... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 18, 2001 Report Share Posted July 18, 2001 Dear n, I have not tried a long course of doxy yet, did 3 weeks last year but it didnt do much, my doctor wont give it to me now as he says I show no sign of infection. Am going to a specialist on July 31 and will speak to him about it. J. Re: Low Ferritin > > > > > > > >Reference range is 10 - > > > 270 and my ferritin is a 3. > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi > > > > > > I have also had very low ferritin. At one stage it was undetectable > > > in tests. > > > You say you are taking immunopro. I havnt taken this but > > > have heard that it contains high amounts of L-cystein. > > > I took L-cystein for quite a while because it really reduced my pain > > > and symptoms. > > > It removes many poisons from the gut and body. However I believe It > > > can also chelate heavy metals and essential minerals. This chelating > > > of essential minerals might include iron. > > > You could try supplimenting with iron at a different time of the day > > > as you take immunopro. > > > Hope this helps. > > > > > > Squirel > > > > > > Reference range is 10 - > > > > 270 and my ferritin is a 3. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > So, plan of action? This is how I see it, pls someone confirm or > > > set > > > > me straight. > > > > > > > > I have been on whey (ImmunePro, etc) for years now. Obviously not > > > > kicking up the iron. > > > > > > > > > This list is intended for patients to share personal experiences with each > >other, not to give medical advice. If you are interested in any treatment > >discussed here, please consult your doctor. > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 8, 2006 Report Share Posted December 8, 2006 Low ferritin = iron deficiency. What's her Iron/TIBC? What form of iron is she taking? Also, is she taking B12? That can interfere with the ferritin results. Steve Huntington, PhD, RD, LD > > Our patient's ferritin levels continue to drop desptite on > supplementation of iron. I checked all food/drug interactions and > looks like she takes Iron correctly. > her Hemoglobin and Hematocrit is fine, there is no sign and symptoms > of anemia. Ferritin continues to drop. Does anybody had the same > cituation. Any suggestions? > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 8, 2006 Report Share Posted December 8, 2006 As iron deficiency develops, low ferritin usually appears before anemia. There are two other conditions that are associated with low ferritin: hypothyroidism and scurvy. If your pt with low ferritin and normal Hb has a low MCV, she may be iron deficient; if MCV is normal, she may be iron-depleted. Ava > > Our patient's ferritin levels continue to drop desptite on > supplementation of iron. I checked all food/drug interactions and > looks like she takes Iron correctly. > her Hemoglobin and Hematocrit is fine, there is no sign and symptoms > of anemia. Ferritin continues to drop. Does anybody had the same > cituation. Any suggestions? > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 8, 2006 Report Share Posted December 8, 2006 Her CBC panel is normal: Hemoglobin 13.8, hematocrite 38.8 MCV 87, MCH 31, MCHC 35.4 TIBC 321, Iron serum 90 Iron saturation 28 % AS you see all other iron labs normal, but ferritin is 9 She takes Bariatric Advantage (ferrous fumarate)-50-60 mg What do i recommend? More iron supplements?When should her labs improve? > > > > Our patient's ferritin levels continue to drop desptite on > > supplementation of iron. I checked all food/drug interactions and > > looks like she takes Iron correctly. > > her Hemoglobin and Hematocrit is fine, there is no sign and symptoms > > of anemia. Ferritin continues to drop. Does anybody had the same > > cituation. Any suggestions? > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 11, 2006 Report Share Posted December 11, 2006 How's the protein status of the patient? > > > > > > Our patient's ferritin levels continue to drop desptite on > > > supplementation of iron. I checked all food/drug interactions > and > > > looks like she takes Iron correctly. > > > her Hemoglobin and Hematocrit is fine, there is no sign and > symptoms > > > of anemia. Ferritin continues to drop. Does anybody had the same > > > cituation. Any suggestions? > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 12, 2006 Report Share Posted December 12, 2006 Protein status is excellent.I probably should increase iron supplements.Anything else i should investigate? > > > > > > > > Our patient's ferritin levels continue to drop desptite on > > > > supplementation of iron. I checked all food/drug interactions > > and > > > > looks like she takes Iron correctly. > > > > her Hemoglobin and Hematocrit is fine, there is no sign and > > symptoms > > > > of anemia. Ferritin continues to drop. Does anybody had the > same > > > > cituation. Any suggestions? > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 29, 2007 Report Share Posted June 29, 2007 Hi, Nil. <yildiz22@...> wrote: > > Hi all > > My ferritin levels came out to be low. > Is there any specific type of iron compound we should or should not take? > bw > Nil ***Low ferritin test results are common in CFS and it is the low glutathione issue in the cells of the stomach lining that are the trouble, not availability of iron per say. The stomach cannot absorb the iron sufficiently in this state so tests in many of us come out low as my certainly did in the past. *** Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 29, 2007 Report Share Posted June 29, 2007 Thanks Do you mean there is no use of supplementing? bw Nil Re: low ferritin > Hi, Nil. > > > <yildiz22@...> wrote: >> >> Hi all >> >> My ferritin levels came out to be low. >> Is there any specific type of iron compound we should or should not > take? >> bw >> Nil > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 29, 2007 Report Share Posted June 29, 2007 Hi, Nil. <yildiz22@...> wrote: > > Thanks > > Do you mean there is no use of supplementing? > bw > Nil ***I mean the glutathione issue needs to be addressed firstly, then you may have not need to supplement iron at all. Of course if your diet is not iron rich and you are not getting iron from any other source then I think it's alright to supplement it, just no need to do it therapeutically unless your doc urgently recommends it. > Re: low ferritin > > > > Hi, Nil. > > > > > > <yildiz22@> wrote: > >> > >> Hi all > >> > >> My ferritin levels came out to be low. > >> Is there any specific type of iron compound we should or should not > > take? > >> bw > >> Nil > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 21, 2010 Report Share Posted January 21, 2010 im wondering if once youve built youre ferritin up are you able tyo hold onto it or will it just drop again once you drop to a maintance dose? .x Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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