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You are on a very low dose of thyroid meds. What were your results like?

Vits and minerals specifically for the thyroid are always good to take. Have

you tried any iodine ? the lugols liquid is very good and i take one drop (yes

a tiny amount but it gives you 6mg's of iodine) in tomato juice in the morning.

What is your feritin level like. If you are low in iron this causes problems

for the thyroid, as does low B12.

Typical doses of T4 only are 75-150mgs.

So you have some way to go to get up there. Studies show those who take T4 and

T3 do much better, but the NHS doesnt want to prescribe T3. So if you get

higher on the T4 and nothing improves it may be an idea to buy some T3 on the

net and see how you do adding it in. It has worked wonders for me.

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hi Stacey, 25mcgs levothyroxine is a baby dose - your doctor

will want you to have another blood test in about 6 to 8 weeks and then your

dose should be increased by another 25mctgs. The average dose of T4 is around

125 -150mcgs daily, though some people take much higher doses and some people

are happy on less. You increase the dose until your symptoms disappear. As we

keep mentioning, the mainly inactive thyroid hormone T4 has to convert to the

active hormone T3 and it is the T3 every cell in your body and brain need. The

majority of sufferers convert fine, but there is a large minority who cannot,

so the cells cannot get the active thyroid hormone, and these are the people

who need some form of T3 either adding to their T4 or in natural thyroid

extract.

You have not been taking levothyroxine for long enough to know

whether it will work, and you certainly are not on a dose that will make you

well, but you do have to be patient. You should be taking about 1000/2000gs

vitamin C daily, and Selenium 200mcgs daily with food to help with the conversion

of T4 to T3. You should also check that you do not have adrenal fatigue,

systemic candidiasis or mercury poisoning. Check our FILES section under

'Discounts' where you can get tests to check your adrenals and to see whether

you could have candida antibodies. Ask your doctor to test the following to see

whether any of these are low in the reference range - but don't ever let the

doctor tell you that " all your blood tests are normal " . You need to

know HOW normal - and you must ask for the actual results and the reference

range for each of the tests you have had done. Doctors do not generally know

how to interpret blood tests. Post them here and we can let you know whether

you need to supplement or not. The tests you should ask for specifically are

ferritin (stored iron), vitamin B12, vitamin D3, magnesium, folate, copper and

zinc. If any of these are low, the thyroid hormone cannot be properly utilised.

Please be patient, there is light at the end of the tunnel, but

you have to help yourself to find it.

Luv - Sheila

I have been on my 25mcgs of Levo for 10 days now, including nutri adrenal

supplement, B12 sublingual 1000mcgs and magnesium/zinc.

I have had a couple of days where I have felt really good in myself - at the

weekend I started writing again (mainly poems) and I felt like there was some

energy there. I didn't go mad and I did sit and rest.

My partner joked that if I had higher meds I might write a best seller!

Now I feel tearful, tired and on a dip, back achy and bluuuuuurrrr.

Is this normal in the early days - I've heard of things like crashing and

dumping - but not sure?

Is this the body trying to convert - possibly not successfully?

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Hi Stacey,

It is early days, yes.

As mentioned before, it may take a little more time for you to get your dosage

of Levo right. It usually takes me at least 14 days to feel better after being

put on a higher dose. So, you probably haven't felt much of the effect of the

Levo as yet.

You probably will need a higher dosage, in time. These things have to be done

gradually, unfortunately. And we have to be the most patient of patients!!

I just wanted to post to let you you know that you are in a good place here. You

will be well supported. The wonderful people here will be able to give you the

best advice - and help you get back to being healthy.

But - patience is key. As I have had to learn myself!!

Good luck!

Del

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> I have been on my 25mcgs of Levo for 10 days now, including nutri adrenal

supplement, B12 sublingual 1000mcgs and magnesium/zinc.

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> Is this normal in the early days - I've heard of things like crashing and

dumping - but not sure?

> Is this the body trying to convert - possibly not successfully?

> S

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Hi Stacey, This up and down is perfectly normal when starting treatment. Whopee when you start meds then the dip when the current dose is not enough. You can't increase too fast as T4 has a long half life- any dose increase takes 25 days at least to stabilise so dose increases should be 6 weeks apart- don't let doc leave you longer. > thyroid treatment > From: stacey57@...> Date: Mon, 12 Jul 2010 18:29:47 +0000> Subject: Feeling yukky/early days> > > I have been on my 25mcgs of Levo for 10 days now, including nutri adrenal supplement, B12 sublingual 1000mcgs and magnesium/zinc.> > I have had a couple of days where I have felt really good in myself - at the weekend I started writing again (mainly poems) and I felt like there was some energy there. I didn't go mad and I did sit and rest.> My partner joked that if I had higher meds I might write a best seller!> > Now I feel tearful, tired and on a dip, back achy and bluuuuuurrrr.> > Is this normal in the early days - I've heard of things like crashing and dumping - but not sure? > Is this the body trying to convert - possibly not successfully? > S> > > > ------------------------------------> > TPA is not medically qualified. Consult with a qualified medical practitioner before changing medication.> >

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