RE: cannot stop putting on weight no matter what I do

[Guest guest]

How are your adrenals? Have you had them tested?

I put on weight with T4 only and there is some documentation which shows that

this happens, but I can't remember where I read it.....

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> Hello dear folk,

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> I cannot seem to stop putting on weight. It only twigged to me today that the

latest lot of weight gain started when I increased my thyroxine from 125mcg to

150mcg in 2009. Coincidental or not? I'm not sure. Has anyone got any ideas

about whether taking the additional 25mcg might be causing my weight gain?????

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[Guest guest]

> I cannot seem to stop putting on weight. It only twigged to me today that the latest lot of weight gain started when I increased my thyroxine from 125mcg to 150mcg in 2009. Coincidental or not? I'm not sure. Has anyone got any ideas about whether taking the additional 25mcg might be causing my weight gain?????

Hello P.,

I'm afraid I don't have the answer, but we keep reading so often that people on Levothyroxine alone keep piling on the pounds. - Since you can't tolerate synthetic T3, have you ever tried to go the natural way and take NDT ? - could it be the synthetic products your body is reacting to ?

To help with your sweet tooth - have you ever tried taking Chromium ~ 200 mcg ? - also... have all forms of Diabetes definitely been ruled out?

Best wishes,

[Guest guest]

Here it is in my rebuttal to the British Thyroid Association's

statement on synthetic combination therapy using T4/T3 combination therapy,

which they rubbished. You can see the references if you go here http://www.tpa-uk.org.uk/resp_bta_t4t3.pdf

" In

another study in which patients were rendered hypothyroid by therapeutic

destruction of the thyroid gland, some participants were given TSH-suppressive

dosages of thyroid hormone and others given T4 replacement. Those on

TSH-suppressive dosages did not gain excess weight; those on T4-replacement

did. The researchers concluded that T4-replacement was the cause of the excess

weight gain.43 Other studies have shown that

treatment of obesity using T3 alone with a very low calorie diet helps reduce

weight,44

, 45, 46, 47 , 48, 49, 50, 51 and interestingly, a study published

in the European Journal of Endocrinology (Ortega et al 2008) concluded that T3

concentrations might play a role in the regulation of insulin secretion.52

These

published reports are consistent with thousands of cases from thyroid patient

support groups in the UK and worldwide where hypothyroid patients have

recovered from their symptoms and other health problems with TSH-suppressive

dosages of thyroid hormone after T4-replacement failed to help them.53. 54 "

Luv

- Sheila

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Hi P

Sorry to hear that you are gaining weight and this appears to

have happened since you upped your dose of levothyroxine. You will have seen

that I posted an extract from the response I made to the BTA about their

statement on synthetic T4/T3 combination therapy. Have you ever given natural

thyroid extract a go - if not, it might be a good time to give it a try, but

before you do, make sure you are not suffering from one of the associated

conditions with being hypothyroid that I have mentioned before, and that you

can read about on our web site www.tpa-uk.org.uk

under Hypothyroidism and then under 'Associated Conditions.

Your Free T4 is high, which means it could well be sitting in

your blood doing nothing as it has nowhere to go if you are not converting it

to T3, and your FT3 might benefit from being a bit higher. Not eating red meat

could mean that your iron store is very low and this could be getting in the

way of the thyroid hormone from being properly absorbed. Get another test to

check your ferritin level and B12.

Luv - Sheila

Hello dear folk,

I cannot seem to stop putting on weight. It only twigged to me today that the

latest lot of weight gain started when I increased my thyroxine from 125mcg to

150mcg in 2009. Coincidental or not? I'm not sure. Has anyone got any ideas about

whether taking the additional 25mcg might be causing my weight gain?????

ps - Out of interest, my recent thyroid results were pretty good. Best they

have been in years. I have more recent results but can't find them, but these

were my results back in Nov. I had another lot done in Jan, but can't find

them, but they are on par with these results.

TSH was 0.5 (in range of 0.5 - 4.0),

Free T3 4.8 (in range of 3.1 - 5.4)

Free T4 16 (in range of 10 - 25) - for some reason my Free T4 doesn't seem to

alter much.

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[Guest guest]

why do you take thyroxine? for what diagnosis? have you thought it might

be a pituitary disorder and not just thyroid. Cushings syndrome could be

a possibility.

i used to think i had just a thyroid problem (blood tests showed their

was one) until quite recently when i was diagnosed with brain damage to

my hypothalamus region. It has shown up very well on all tests. I have

had a normal MRI which shows nothing remarkable but am going to look at

insisting i get one specially for my pituitary as i suspect it is not

right. like you have have kept increasing my weight every year (since

the year the brain damage occurred in a accident) nothing i do except a

near starvation diet of 500 calories a day shifts the weight and even on

that it is very slow. it would take me two years of very low calorie

eating to get the 20kg off that i have gained.

i am on armour thyroid and have found that helped immensely with the

fatigue and stiffness but still the weight stayed on even with 4 grains

a day.

if you are seriously struggling with weight despite the attempts to

loose it you need to look a bit further than just thyroid probs.

Bronwyn

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> I cannot seem to stop putting on weight. It only twigged to me today

> that the latest lot of weight gain started when I increased my

> thyroxine from 125mcg to 150mcg in 2009. Coincidental or not? I'm not

> sure. Has anyone got any ideas about whether taking the additional

> 25mcg might be causing my weight gain?????

>

[Guest guest]

Although you might not have diabetes, you may be very insulin resistant. The only way to lose any weight when insulin resistant is to go on a low carb diet.

It is the insulin in the body which causes weight gain, or at least stops weight loss, so therefore the foods you eat should be directed at not needing too much insulin.

Lilian

[Guest guest]

Hi , Your free T3 could be higher, so that may be wherethe problem is. I can't think that a dose increase causing weight gain- unless it has also increased appetite- but almost anything is possible with thyroid . Being veggie tends to mean eating more carbs than an omnivore so this may also be a contributory factor- see Atkins diet which is very effective for weight loss where carbs are almost entirely removed for the first couple of weeks. > Subject: cannot stop putting on weight no matter what I do> > Hello dear folk,> > I cannot seem to stop putting on weight. It only twigged to me today that the latest lot of weight gain started when I increased my thyroxine from 125mcg to 150mcg in 2009. Coincidental or not? I'm not sure. Has anyone got any ideas about whether taking the additional 25mcg might be causing my weight gain?????> > P xo > > ps - Out of interest, my recent thyroid results were pretty good. Best they have been in years. I have more recent results but can't find them, but these were my results back in Nov. I had another lot done in Jan, but can't find them, but they are on par with these results. > TSH was 0.5 (in range of 0.5 - 4.0), > Free T3 4.8 (in range of 3.1 - 5.4)> Free T4 16 (in range of 10 - 25) - for some reason my Free T4 doesn't seem to alter much. > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------> > TPA is not medically qualified. Consult with a qualified medical practitioner before changing medication.> >

[Guest guest]

Thanks so much to everyone for your replies. I appreciate it very much. I will

have a good look at them all very soon. It is very late over here at the

moment, and I won't have much access to a computer over the next day or two.

P xo