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In a message dated 8/18/00 9:47:52 AM Eastern Daylight Time,

cl-chrisziggy@... writes:

<< . i was reading a story on an

immunization board from a lady who lost her 10 year old to chicken

pox and now she is a crusader for the shot. well, in the story they

mention how he had this that and the other health problem and he was

on medication already for these problems and had a very compromised

immune system to begin with. >>

Well, had this woman had the CP shot for her son, who knows what kind of

reaction he may have had to it, given his already weakened immune system and

other problems! She can't think that there would have been no repurcussions

from the shot. I know when my cousin's son had his, a few years ago, my

gramma who was recovering from a heartattack wasn't allowed to be around him

for 6 weeks! So, if they're telling people with weakened immune syst. to stay

away from people who have had it, what does it do to those they give it to

who have weakened immune systems?

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i am sorry to hear about your grandpa's passing. may he rest in

peace.

see, to me this is a great example - they'll say, oh he died of the

flu. they do not take into account (or state it) everything else that

contributed to what made it such a bad case of the flu for him, and

why it progressed into viral pneumonia. i was reading a story on an

immunization board from a lady who lost her 10 year old to chicken

pox and now she is a crusader for the shot. well, in the story they

mention how he had this that and the other health problem and he was

on medication already for these problems and had a very compromised

immune system to begin with. was it these diseases that killed these

people? yes! is everyone at the same risk of the diseases being so

deadly in them - NO! are there way to prevent the disease becoming so

deadly in most people - YES! and are shots the way to do that - NO!

that is the deception.

basically, not vaccinating is not going to protect you against any

natural disease and vaccinating isn't going to either.

making yourself infertile ground for disease to grow and thrive is

the only way to keep the buggies away!

*smile*

chris

> << oh wait the flu already is this major killer - i

> forgot). >>

> My hubby's 85 yr. old grandfather died from complications of the

flu. And he

> HAD received the flu shot. We all got it, and we survived ok, even

my one

> year old son. He developed viral pneumonia that was not able to be

treated

> with antibiotics. We actually think he was improving and a nurse

gave him a

> sip of water lying down and he aspirated it. Soon after that he

went down

> hill and died. Of course that was not included on his chart, even

though

> many of the family witnessed it. Perhaps it was actually a reduced

immune

> system and gross incompetence that killed him?

> M. in Michigan

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On Fri, 18 Aug 2000 08:30:51 EDT, you wrote:

><< oh wait the flu already is this major killer - i

> forgot). >>

>My hubby's 85 yr. old grandfather died from complications of the flu. And he

>HAD received the flu shot. We all got it, and we survived ok, even my one

>year old son. He developed viral pneumonia that was not able to be treated

>with antibiotics. We actually think he was improving and a nurse gave him a

>sip of water lying down and he aspirated it. Soon after that he went down

>hill and died. Of course that was not included on his chart, even though

>many of the family witnessed it. Perhaps it was actually a reduced immune

>system and gross incompetence that killed him?

> M. in Michigan

Hello and All,

You said, " We all got it. "

I wonder if you would mind if I ask a few questions.

Did you all eat the same thing/things (living under the same roof)?

(I have heard than most " flu " cases are from bad food, ie., food poisoning)

Has the family recently been under some kind of stress (or celebrating some good

fortune)?

How many of the people in your family were taking some medication (or

supplements, vitamins, other treatments)?

Did this flu bug afflict other people in the neighborhood (as in the familiar

phrase, " the flu bug is going around " ).

As you may have guessed from my questions, I don't buy the germ theory of

disease, but I am always willing to " take another look " .

db

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  • 3 years later...

> Okay, you guys are giving me a heart attack with your remedies.

>

> You should check with your own doctor, of course. Only your doc

> knows what meds you are on, what conditions you have.

>

> Tylenol is good for fever. Vicodin only works for fever because

**************************

youre right about the ER. i took garrett on friday night and it was

packed with people with high fevers. everyone was holding a barf

bucket and crying. it was like a scene from a bad movie. its bad

this year. take care of yourselves.

ive been taking tylenol and tylenol sinus- and dramamine for nausea.

i didnt want to take anything stronger. im feeling alittle better

but MAN!!!!!!!! this is the pits. i lost 6 pounds as of today- i'll

put it back on but thats ok. the flu diet is not a popular one.

God Bless everyone vicki

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  • 5 years later...

Hi All, just wont to ask some thing and get a second opinion. I think I have the swine flu.have sore throat headache slite runny nose fatigue and loss of appetite. also a temp of98.9F37.4C this is to high for me, usual is under97.6 . also chills and feeling cold sometimes.went to work yesterday evening and did not feel to bad, have had this since Friday night/sat morning. hubby has had same thing. son has sore throat on Friday with laryngitis.so what to do. feeling hot at the mo and trying to take my temps again just to check.Angel.

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