Re: hormone results

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hi Sharon,

Looks strange to me...most reslts of any test i havehad show my test result for

each specific test with a note of the normal reference range - often also with

an eclamation mark if the result is abnormal or outside the normal reference

range - I am no expert however!

I would ask some questions!

Vicky

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> If they dont seem right to anyone please tell me and I will speak to someone

else at the GP surgery.It looks to me like my result is 260 in different ref

ranges for different things! Any input would be much appreciated.

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Hi Vicky,

I dont understand them either,but my GP is not that helpful,he probably expects me to tell him whats what! It takes at least 4 weeks to get an appointment with him too,so I'll have to wait and ask him when I see him next.

Best wishes sharon

From: hobbsvic <hobbsvic@...>Subject: Re: hormone resultsthyroid treatment Date: Friday, April 16, 2010, 10:42 PM

hi Sharon,Looks strange to me...most reslts of any test i havehad show my test result for each specific test with a note of the normal reference range - often also with an eclamation mark if the result is abnormal or outside the normal reference range - I am no expert however!I would ask some questions!Vicky

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are you sure those are the results and not just the ranges?

Chris

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> Oesradiol ref range 360-1930 -mid cycle

> Oestradiol ref range 36-719-Luteal

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Hi

I dont know,it looks like just ref ranges doesnt it! I didnt know if it was the one result of 260 for all of them,but a different ref range for each thing,I'm confused. I'll have to see him again and find out.

Best wishes sharon

From: <chrisjtaylor46@...>Subject: Re: hormone resultsthyroid treatment Date: Saturday, April 17, 2010, 8:43 AM

are you sure those are the results and not just the ranges?Chris>> Oesradiol ref range 360-1930 -mid cycle> Oestradiol ref range 36-719-Luteal

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Hi Sharon, It depends on what part of your cycle you were in at the time of the test. Progesterone does not seem to be tested. thyroid treatment From: sprog1967@...Date: Fri, 16 Apr 2010 12:57:33 -0700Subject: hormone results

Hi all,

Can someone tell me if my hormone levels are ok please,as I cant work them out.My GP said its possible I'm menapausal,but he's not sure.I dont even know what result is what,which is progesterone and which is oestrogen or if I'm oestogen dominant.

Serum oestradiol level=260 pmol/L Oestradiol ref range 40-606-follicular

Oesradiol ref range 360-1930 -mid cycle

Oestradiol ref range 36-719-Luteal

Serum FSH level= 6.9iu/L original result:6.91.U./I [2.5-10.2]

Best wishes Sharon

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Hi ,

Thats a problem too,as I had a hysterectomy 12 years ago.What have I been tested for then,as I asked for my progesterone and oestrogen levels to be tested.

Best wishes sharon

From: jenny stenning <jennystenning@...>Subject: RE: hormone results"sheila turner" <thyroid treatment >Date: Saturday, April 17, 2010, 10:17 AM

Hi Sharon, It depends on what part of your cycle you were in at the time of the test. Progesterone does not seem to be tested.

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Hi Sharon, Ok,so like me, there is no cycle now so you would have a steady state. following hysterectomy or menopause women tend to have higher oestrogen and low progesterone. Unfortunately oestrogen binds with thyroid hormones and takes then out of use and progesterone transports them, supposedly keeping a balance. If there is too much oestrogen compared to progesterone then it lowers the effectiveness of thyroid use. This is why some of us use additional progesterone cream. You've snipped your results so I don't know where your results fall now. thyroid treatment From: sprog1967@...Date: Sat, 17 Apr 2010 05:35:10 -0700Subject: RE: hormone results

Hi ,

Thats a problem too,as I had a hysterectomy 12 years ago.What have I been tested for then,as I asked for my progesterone and oestrogen levels to be tested.

Best wishes sharon

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Hi ,

My results are:

Serum oestradiol level = 260 pmol/L Oestrodiol ref range 40-606 - Follicular

Oestrodiol ref range 360-1930 - Mid cycle

Oestrodiol ref range 36-719 - Luteal

Serum FSH level = 6.9 iu/L Original result: 6.91.U/I [2.5 - 10.2]

I dont understand them,but maybe you will.Do you think I'm oestrogen dominant?

best wishes sharon

From: jenny stenning <jennystenning@...>Subject: RE: hormone results"sheila turner" <thyroid treatment >Date: Saturday, April 17, 2010, 3:59 PM

Hi Sharon, Ok,so like me, there is no cycle now so you would have a steady state. following hysterectomy or menopause women tend to have higher oestrogen and low progesterone. Unfortunately oestrogen binds with thyroid hormones and takes then out of use and progesterone transports them, supposedly keeping a balance. If there is too much oestrogen compared to progesterone then it lowers the effectiveness of thyroid use. This is why some of us use additional progesterone cream. You've snipped your results so I don't know where your results fall now.

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Hi Sharon, As oestrogen results go they are a bout 1/3 up from the bottom of the range so they're not high as such, but as we don't know progesterone results there is no way to compare. BUT progesterone levels are known to drop after menopause- however accomplished, so the chances are that you have insufficient progesterone compared to someone who is still 'all there'. I'm still on a low amount of oestrogen HRT which never did control hot flushes etc even when the dose was much higher. When I added progesterone cream I could reduce the oestrogen and felt much better. With the known connection with progesterone aiding thyroid hormone utilisation you may like to consider this. see http://www.progesterone.co.uk. thyroid treatment From: sprog1967@...Date: Sat, 17 Apr 2010 13:25:14 -0700Subject: RE: hormone results

Hi ,

My results are:

Serum oestradiol level = 260 pmol/L Oestrodiol ref range 40-606 - Follicular

Oestrodiol ref range 360-1930 - Mid cycle

Oestrodiol ref range 36-719 - Luteal

Serum FSH level = 6.9 iu/L Original result: 6.91.U/I [2.5 - 10.2]

I dont understand them,but maybe you will.Do you think I'm oestrogen dominant?

best wishes sharon

From: jenny stenning <jennystenning@...>Subject: RE: hormone results"sheila turner" <thyroid treatment >Date: Saturday, April 17, 2010, 3:59 PM

Hi Sharon, Ok,so like me, there is no cycle now so you would have a steady state. following hysterectomy or menopause women tend to have higher oestrogen and low progesterone. Unfortunately oestrogen binds with thyroid hormones and takes then out of use and progesterone transports them, supposedly keeping a balance. If there is too much oestrogen compared to progesterone then it lowers the effectiveness of thyroid use. This is why some of us use additional progesterone cream. You've snipped your results so I don't know where your results fall now.

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Hi ,

I've heard people on the forum talk quite a lot about serenity cream and am quite impressed.If it helps,my GP tried me on HRT last year and I had to stop taking it after a matter of days,as I wanted to kill my daughter,smash the house up and burn it to the ground! I did ask my GP to check my progesterone levels,but obviously it got missed. Would the experience with HRT be an indicator as to whether I'm oestrogen dominant?

Best wishes Sharon

From: jenny stenning <jennystenning@...>Subject: RE: hormone results"sheila turner" <thyroid treatment >Date: Sunday, April 18, 2010, 10:13 AM

Hi Sharon, As oestrogen results go they are a bout 1/3 up from the bottom of the range so they're not high as such, but as we don't know progesterone results there is no way to compare. BUT progesterone levels are known to drop after menopause- however accomplished, so the chances are that you have insufficient progesterone compared to someone who is still 'all there'. I'm still on a low amount of oestrogen HRT which never did control hot flushes etc even when the dose was much higher. When I added progesterone cream I could reduce the oestrogen and felt much better. With the known connection with progesterone aiding thyroid hormone utilisation you may like to consider this. see http://www.progeste

rone.co.uk.

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what was the hrt sharon? ... probably wasn't a bio-identical replacement

whatever it was. i may be wrong but i think most hrt is estrogen replacement

rather than replacing as appropriate to get the correct ratio of estrogen to

progesterone. an imbalance between the two can cause all sorts of probs i

think.

while i'm here ...how is it going with the mms ...what can you report?

best wishes

trish

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> Hi ,

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>             I've heard people on the forum talk quite a lot about

serenity cream and am quite impressed.If it helps,my GP tried me on HRT last

year and I had to stop taking it after a matter of days,as I wanted to kill my

daughter,smash the house up and burn it to the ground! I did ask my GP to check

my progesterone levels,but obviously it got missed. Would the experience with

HRT be an indicator as to whether I'm oestrogen dominant?

>  

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Hi Sharon, Before I had the hysterectomy I had PMT from hell- my family just kept away from me most of the time as I was a bomb waiting to explode! I didn't have mood problems with oestrogen HRT- it just wasn't very good at supressing hot flushes. BUT I was more even tempered than I was on my own hormones. All you can do is give it a try and see if it helps. The small amount you need means a pot will last about 3 months. There are cheaper brands- biovea is quite nice, but I found it not so 'strong'- it is however much cheaper. thyroid treatment From: sprog1967@...Date: Sun, 18 Apr 2010 13:37:05 -0700Subject: RE: hormone results

Hi ,

I've heard people on the forum talk quite a lot about serenity cream and am quite impressed.If it helps,my GP tried me on HRT last year and I had to stop taking it after a matter of days,as I wanted to kill my daughter,smash the house up and burn it to the ground! I did ask my GP to check my progesterone levels,but obviously it got missed. Would the experience with HRT be an indicator as to whether I'm oestrogen dominant?

Best wishes Sharon

From: jenny stenning <jennystenning@...>Subject: RE: hormone results"sheila turner" <thyroid treatment >Date: Sunday, April 18, 2010, 10:13 AM

Hi Sharon, As oestrogen results go they are a bout 1/3 up from the bottom of the range so they're not high as such, but as we don't know progesterone results there is no way to compare. BUT progesterone levels are known to drop after menopause- however accomplished, so the chances are that you have insufficient progesterone compared to someone who is still 'all there'. I'm still on a low amount of oestrogen HRT which never did control hot flushes etc even when the dose was much higher. When I added progesterone cream I could reduce the oestrogen and felt much better. With the known connection with progesterone aiding thyroid hormone utilisation you may like to consider this. see http://www.progeste

rone.co.uk.

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Hi ,

Where can I get Biovea from? I know what you mean about the serious PMT's. I was so bad,I couldnt learn to drive as I wanted to bump the curb and run everyone down and when I was in my early teens,my mum had to get rid of all the sharp knives in the house,cos I used to hide them and threaten to kill people! What a monster!

Best wishes Sharon

From: jenny stenning <jennystenning@...>Subject: RE: hormone results"sheila turner" <thyroid treatment >Date: Monday, April 19, 2010, 11:45 AM

Hi Sharon, Before I had the hysterectomy I had PMT from hell- my family just kept away from me most of the time as I was a bomb waiting to explode! I didn't have mood problems with oestrogen HRT- it just wasn't very good at supressing hot flushes. BUT I was more even tempered than I was on my own hormones.

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Hi Trish,

I have no idea what hrt it was,I thought they were all the same! Silly me.Whatever it was,it didnt like me! I'm on 7 drops of MMS at the moment and my daughter is on it with me too.The first drop made us feel a bit funny in the stomach and my daughter has been going to the loo more,which is great as she's been constipated for ages cos she takes iron supplements.I dont feel any different except my liver and kidneys ache a bit,so does my daughters.Its so tempting to take a much higher dose and have a big reaction,just so I have a reaction! The drops are so tiny,but when mixed with the citric acid drops they stink! They smell just like a swimming pool and I hate that smell and the smell sticks up your nose! I'll keep going though and may increase my dose quicker than I should and see what happens.

Best wishes sharon

From: Trish <fielddot@...>Subject: Re: hormone resultsthyroid treatment Date: Monday, April 19, 2010, 8:16 AM

what was the hrt sharon? ... probably wasn't a bio-identical replacement whatever it was. i may be wrong but i think most hrt is estrogen replacement rather than replacing as appropriate to get the correct ratio of estrogen to progesterone. an imbalance between the two can cause all sorts of probs i think.while i'm here ...how is it going with the mms ...what can you report?best wishestrish

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Hi Glynis,

I know what you mean,its horrific what animals go through to better our lives.My mum was on hrt for years and when she found out how they make it,she mentioned it to her gp. He told her,if she knew what went in to any medicine and how they get it,she wouldnt ever take anything.I have never been a lover of anything prescribed,as I used to get lots of mail through with horrific pictures of animals being experimented on and it appalls me.But we also drink a lot of milk in this country,which cows are forced to breed and have their calves taken away so we can drink their milk.

Its a cruel world and I have to shut myself off from what upsets me every day or I would probably kill myself.I cant read papers or watch the news cos its so depressing. I'm not a people person and despite obviously taking drugs that have been tested on animals,using toiletries that have been tested on animals and eating meat,I absolutely adore animals.If I didnt have any family,I'd be living somewhere like Borneo helping orangatangs survive. I'm not having a go at you at all,I know where you are coming from,but all prescription drugs mean animals suffer,but what do you do? None of us would take thyroid drug if we thought about that.

Best wishes sharon

From: glynisrose06 <arianrhod@...>Subject: Re: hormone resultsthyroid treatment Date: Monday, April 19, 2010, 11:17 PM

Most HRT is made this way: Mares are artificially inseminated to make them pregnant, then the foals are aborted and the hormones used to make HRT tablets.Not for all the mloney in the world would I use that stuff!!

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There is a huge difference between slaughtering pigs for meat and using their

thyroids and the horrific practices to produce HRT. Especially where there are

more ethical alternatives.

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Hi Sharon, http://www.biovea.com an excellent Uk based source of vits mineralsetc. thyroid treatment From: sprog1967@...Date: Mon, 19 Apr 2010 13:53:52 -0700Subject: RE: hormone results

Hi ,

Where can I get Biovea from? I know what you mean about the serious PMT's. I was so bad,I couldnt learn to drive as I wanted to bump the curb and run everyone down and when I was in my early teens,my mum had to get rid of all the sharp knives in the house,cos I used to hide them and threaten to kill people! What a monster!

Best wishes Sharon

From: jenny stenning <jennystenning@...>Subject: RE: hormone results"sheila turner" <thyroid treatment >Date: Monday, April 19, 2010, 11:45 AM

Hi Sharon, Before I had the hysterectomy I had PMT from hell- my family just kept away from me most of the time as I was a bomb waiting to explode! I didn't have mood problems with oestrogen HRT- it just wasn't very good at supressing hot flushes. BUT I was more even tempered than I was on my own hormones.

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Hi ,

Thanks for that,I will have a look and decide which one to buy.

Best wishes sharon

From: jenny stenning <jennystenning@ hotmail.com>Subject: RE: [thyroidpatientadvo cacy] hormone results"sheila turner" <thyroidpatientadvoc acygroups (DOT) com>Date: Monday, April 19, 2010, 11:45 AM

Hi Sharon, Before I had the hysterectomy I had PMT from hell- my family just kept away from me most of the time as I was a bomb waiting to explode! I didn't have mood problems with oestrogen HRT- it just wasn't very good at supressing hot flushes. BUT I was more even tempered than I was on my own hormones.

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