Dr. Myhill Complaint: Ben Goldacre?

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Has anyone else seen this?

http://thyroid.about.com/b/2010/04/16/ben-goldacre-bad-science.htm

I'm fuming.

Louise.

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Sounds like one of those " B " scientists, you know the ones that try to explain /

argue REAL scientific findings!!

Wonder when he finds time for being a doctor, he obviously has too many opinions

to be off the internet for long enough surely?

Or maybe he's like (too many) endocrinologists that read the book about thyroid

disfunction in their 2nd year of uni and think they know it all!!

'Cos lets face it, if it ain't in the book it ain't real is it?..............

Glynia

> Has anyone else seen this?

>

> http://thyroid.about.com/b/2010/04/16/ben-goldacre-bad-science.htm

>

>

>

> I'm fuming.

>

> Louise.

>

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I

am coping and printing this here for all to see. http://thyroid.about.com/b/2010/04/16/ben-goldacre-bad-science.htm.

What gets me, is this idiot is so damned full of himself why on earth would he

choose to remain anonymous - if he is the traitor, of course

Luv

- Sheila

Likely Source of Anonymous Complaint Against UK's

Dr. Myhill is Site of Controversial Doctor/Writer Ben Goldacre

Friday April 16, 2010

Interestingly,

the supporters of Dr. Myhill have found a link online to

a website, Badscience.net, where one of the " anonymous " posters

who goes by the screen name " Jonas " is boasting that he is the author

of the now infamous anonymous letter to the GMC that complains about Dr.

Myhill. (See " Healthcare

Travesty in the UK: British General Medical Council Witchhunt Against Dr.

Myhill, Who Treats Thyroid and Chronic Fatigue Patients " ). This is

followed by various " attaboy " comments by his cohorts, who seem to be

interested not in the health of Dr. Myhill's patients, but singlemindedly

hellbent on putting Dr. Myhill out of business.

Interestingly, the BadScience site is led by a Dr. Ben

Goldacre, who says he is a " medical doctor who specialises in unpicking

dodgy scientific claims made by scaremongering journalists, dodgy government

reports, evil pharmaceutical corporations, PR companies and quacks. " Apparently,

Goldacre, when not practicing medicine, is also a writer/columnist for UK

newspaper The Guardian, runs the BadScience website, and had time to

also publish a book, Bad Science, which he flacks on every page of his

website.

Goldacre has built a

business and made himself a media personality based on making snarky claims

about alternative and holistic medicine -- categorically opposing and

dismissing everything from acupuncture to nutrition as " quackery. " He

appears to be opposed to everything but traditional, Western, allopathic

medicine -- and is supplementing his income handsomely with the profits from

his outside writing projects.

But one has to wonder

-- given what has been scientifically proven in peer-reviewed, double-blind,

journal-published medical articles in top scientific journals about the health

effects of nutrition, for example -- shouldn't we be wondering about the

quality or scientific rigor of Goldacre's own assertions...not to mention his

own motivations? After all, there's far more money to be made issuing sound

bites as the petulant and patronizing Simon Cowell of science, rather than in

actually presenting an accurate, rigorous, balanced picture of holistic,

alternative, complementary and integrative medicine.

One also has to wonder

whether Goldacre himself is actually the one who anonymously sent the complaint

letter about Dr. Myhill as a publicity stunt to help sell books and get more

media attention for himself.

The thing that we

patients around the world know of course, is that if Goldacre, or any of the

similarly inclined medical Luddites, had a condition like myalgic encephalitis

(ME)/chronic fatigue syndrome, fibromylagia, or sublinical hypothyroidism, and

saw doctor after doctor after doctor for useless or insufficient treatments or

misdiagnosis, they too would likely end up on the doorstep of a doctor like

Myhill themselves, desperate for help.

But if disgruntled

critics like Goldacre have their way, he will keep practicing the same old

brand of medicine -- not to mention profiting from his newspaper and book deals

-- while doctors like Myhill end up closed for business, and patients

left to suffer. And THAT's what you call truly Bad Medicine.

Want

to find out more about Ben Goldacre? Read the book by , Cultural Dwarfs and

Junk Journalism. In the book, looks at Goldacre's role as part of

the drug-company funded anti-nutritional medicine campaign in the UK.

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Sheila and others... Shouldn't this be sent to the GMC? Should it be for them to

investigate and should the police not get called in if it is malicious?

Or maybe I am too naive ...

Kim x

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I should imagine Dr Myhill's solicitor has already been made

aware of this. Certainly, it needs to be taken further because this admission

has been made on the www.

Sheila and others... Shouldn't this be sent to the GMC? Should it be for them

to investigate and should the police not get called in if it is malicious?

Or maybe I am too naive ...

Kim x

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Hello Sheila and all, I'm now wondering who this " Jonas " character is. Maybe

Goldacre himself? If it is I'm sure he would want to remain anonymous to avoid

harrassment. I read somewhere that Goldacre has links to Wessley so his attitude

isn't all that surprising :0(

Louise.

>

> I am coping and printing this here for all to see.

> http://thyroid.about.com/b/2010/04/16/ben-goldacre-bad-science.htm. What

> gets me, is this idiot is so damned full of himself why on earth would he

> choose to remain anonymous - if he is the traitor, of course

>

> Luv - Sheila

>

>

>

>

> Likely Source of Anonymous Complaint Against UK's Dr. Myhill is Site

> of Controversial Doctor/Writer Ben Goldacre

>

>

> Friday April 16, 2010

>

> http://z.about.com/d/thyroid/1/0/K/h/ben-goldacre.JPGInterestingly, the

> supporters of Dr. Myhill have found a link online to

> <http://badscience.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=3 & t=15693> a website,

> Badscience.net, where one of the " anonymous " posters who goes by the screen

> name " Jonas " is boasting that he is the author of the now infamous anonymous

> letter to the GMC that complains about Dr. Myhill. (See " Healthcare

> <http://thyroid.about.com/b/2010/04/15/doctor-sarah-myhill-uk-gmc-witchhunt.

> htm> Travesty in the UK: British General Medical Council Witchhunt Against

> Dr. Myhill, Who Treats Thyroid and Chronic Fatigue Patients " ). This is

> followed by various " attaboy " comments by his cohorts, who seem to be

> interested not in the health of Dr. Myhill's patients, but singlemindedly

> hellbent on putting Dr. Myhill out of business.

>

> Interestingly, the BadScience site <http://www.badscience.net> is led by a

> Dr. Ben Goldacre, who says he is a " medical doctor who specialises in

> unpicking dodgy scientific claims made by scaremongering journalists, dodgy

> government reports, evil pharmaceutical corporations, PR companies and

> quacks. " Apparently, Goldacre, when not practicing medicine, is also a

> writer/columnist for UK newspaper The Guardian, runs the BadScience website,

> and had time to also publish a book, Bad Science, which he flacks on every

> page of his website.

>

> Goldacre has built a business and made himself a media personality based on

> making snarky claims about alternative and holistic medicine --

> categorically opposing and dismissing everything from acupuncture to

> nutrition as " quackery. " He appears to be opposed to everything but

> traditional, Western, allopathic medicine -- and is supplementing his income

> handsomely with the profits from his outside writing projects.

>

> But one has to wonder -- given what has been scientifically proven in

> peer-reviewed, double-blind, journal-published medical articles in top

> scientific journals about the health effects of nutrition, for example --

> shouldn't we be wondering about the quality or scientific rigor of

> Goldacre's own assertions...not to mention his own motivations? After all,

> there's far more money to be made issuing sound bites as the petulant and

> patronizing Simon Cowell of science, rather than in actually presenting an

> accurate, rigorous, balanced picture of holistic, alternative, complementary

> and integrative medicine.

>

> One also has to wonder whether Goldacre himself is actually the one who

> anonymously sent the complaint letter about Dr. Myhill as a publicity stunt

> to help sell books and get more media attention for himself.

>

> The thing that we patients around the world know of course, is that if

> Goldacre, or any of the similarly inclined medical Luddites, had a condition

> like myalgic encephalitis (ME)/chronic fatigue syndrome, fibromylagia, or

> sublinical hypothyroidism, and saw doctor after doctor after doctor for

> useless or insufficient treatments or misdiagnosis, they too would likely

> end up on the doorstep of a doctor like Myhill themselves, desperate

> for help.

>

> But if disgruntled critics like Goldacre have their way, he will keep

> practicing the same old brand of medicine -- not to mention profiting from

> his newspaper and book deals -- while doctors like Myhill end up

> closed for business, and patients left to suffer. And THAT's what you call

> truly Bad Medicine.

>

> Want to find out more about Ben Goldacre? Read the book by ,

> Cultural Dwarfs and <http://www.slingshotpublications.com/dwarfs.html> Junk

> Journalism. In the book, looks at Goldacre's role as part of the

> drug-company funded anti-nutritional medicine campaign in the UK.

>

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Hi Louise, We have come across this idiot before. I note it is other docs complaining about Dr. Myhill NOT her patients. > thyroid treatment > From: winn@...> Date: Fri, 16 Apr 2010 19:05:42 +0000> Subject: Dr. Myhill Complaint: Ben Goldacre?> > Has anyone else seen this? > > http://thyroid.about.com/b/2010/04/16/ben-goldacre-bad-science.htm> > > > I'm fuming.> > Louise.> > > > ------------------------------------> > TPA is not medically qualified. Consult with a qualified medical practitioner before changing medication.> >

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Yep, it's always been Drs complaining, never patients.

Ben Goldacre's the one who described Armour as " mashed pigs " . Hmmm...

Louise.

>

>

> Hi Louise,

> We have come across this idiot before.

> I note it is other docs complaining about Dr. Myhill NOT her patients.

>

>

> > thyroid treatment

> > From: winn@...

> > Date: Fri, 16 Apr 2010 19:05:42 +0000

> > Subject: Dr. Myhill Complaint: Ben Goldacre?

> >

> > Has anyone else seen this?

> >

> > http://thyroid.about.com/b/2010/04/16/ben-goldacre-bad-science.htm

> >

> >

> >

> > I'm fuming.

> >

> > Louise.

> >

> >

> >

> > ------------------------------------

> >

> > TPA is not medically qualified. Consult with a qualified medical

practitioner before changing medication.

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

Hi Louise, I suppose if you don't eat pork then you would find Armour distasteful. > thyroid treatment > From: winn@...> Date: Sat, 17 Apr 2010 15:17:47 +0000> Subject: Re: Dr. Myhill Complaint: Ben Goldacre?> > Yep, it's always been Drs complaining, never patients. > > Ben Goldacre's the one who described Armour as "mashed pigs". Hmmm...> > Louise.> > > >> > > > Hi Louise,> > We have come across this idiot before.> > I note it is other docs complaining about Dr. Myhill NOT her patients.> > > > > > > thyroid treatment > > > From: winn@...> > > Date: Fri, 16 Apr 2010 19:05:42 +0000> > > Subject: Dr. Myhill Complaint: Ben Goldacre?> > > > > > Has anyone else seen this? > > > > > > http://thyroid.about.com/b/2010/04/16/ben-goldacre-bad-science.htm> > > > > > > > > > > > I'm fuming.> > > > > > Louise.> > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------> > > > > > TPA is not medically qualified. Consult with a qualified medical practitioner before changing medication.> > > > > >

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http://thyroid.about.com/b/2010/04/16/ben-goldacre-bad-science.htm

" Goldacre doesn’t let on that he is “a member of the Royal College of

Psychiatrists, and is a research fellow at the Institute of Psychiatry, King’s

College London.†(Wikipedia). “Trust me I’m a psychiatrist†doesn’t

sound so good, does it?

Goldacre is supervised by Simon Wessely, who has built a career arguing CFS and

GWI are psychiatric conditions, the opposite of what Myhill thinks. Now it’s

turning out they are real physical ailments, not just maladaptive beliefs, so

the shrinks are lashing out wildly at anyone in reach, as their ship sinks. "

if goldacre is sincere he is severely misguided but i don't believe he is

sincere at all, he is self seeking and dangerous.

trish

>

> Hello Sheila and all, I'm now wondering who this " Jonas " character is. Maybe

Goldacre himself? If it is I'm sure he would want to remain anonymous to avoid

harrassment. I read somewhere that Goldacre has links to Wessley so his attitude

isn't all that surprising :0(

>

> Louise.

[Guest guest]

Of course!!! Silly me with a name like Goldacre he is probably Jewish!! That

answers his dislike for pork!!!

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I think someone else wondered if this had something to do with his reaction at

the time ;0)

Louise.

> Hi Louise,

I suppose if you don't eat pork then you would find Armour distasteful.

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Although apparently this wouldn't rule out being allowed to take Armour if you

needed it to save your life.

Louise.

>

> Of course!!! Silly me with a name like Goldacre he is probably Jewish!! That

answers his dislike for pork!!!

>