Guest guest Posted October 23, 2009 Report Share Posted October 23, 2009 No you can take too much and they can cause temporary mental problems in some people who are sensitive to them. If someone is an over methylator, their needs will be different from an under methylator or normal methlator. Basically if you are an over methylator and take too much of the wrong B vitamin you can feel pretty bad for a day or two, as it messes up your brain chemistry a lot (trust me, i've experienced this first hand) http://www.alternativementalhealth.com/articles/walshMP.htm Some researchers (Holford etc) say they can cure schizoprhenia with a high dose of niacin (B3), but maybe for others, that high dose of B3 would be bad. I think it's irresponsible for shops to sell crazily high doses of b complexes when some people will react badly, and this isn't widely known. Personally, I'd stick to the RDAs or experiment very cautiously with higher doses. > > am i right in thinking that you cant take too much b vitamins coss they come out in youre wee? > .x > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 23, 2009 Report Share Posted October 23, 2009 Hi Chris The logical case is that people who have absorption problems need more to get the water soluble vits past the blocking mechanisms ...malnutrition seems to be par for the course in hypothyroidism...added to celiac disease that doesn't get diagnosed... One can waste a very long time finding out that the RDA's are only good if you're very fit and healthy. Bob > > > > am i right in thinking that you cant take too much b vitamins coss they come out in youre wee? > > .x > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 23, 2009 Report Share Posted October 23, 2009 Hi Chris The logical case is that people who have absorption problems need more to get the water soluble vits past the blocking mechanisms ...malnutrition seems to be par for the course in hypothyroidism...added to celiac disease that doesn't get diagnosed... One can waste a very long time finding out that the RDA's are only good if you're very fit and healthy. Bob > > > > am i right in thinking that you cant take too much b vitamins coss they come out in youre wee? > > .x > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 24, 2009 Report Share Posted October 24, 2009 Yes, but... There are people who are negatively affected by large amounts of b vitamins-that was my point. Depending on methylation, some may need bigger or smaller amounts of certain B's - not all of them. So I would just be cautious, that is all and not jump in with a B50 or whatever it might be - it is only on the B vitamins that I stick to the RDA else they can make me ill. Look at things like Berrocca - how can that formulation possibly be ideal for everyone? It can't - someone else might need more of Bx, less By. I even react negatively to Berrocca now. Chris > > Hi Chris > > The logical case is that people who have absorption problems need more to get the water soluble vits past the blocking mechanisms ...malnutrition seems to be par for the course in hypothyroidism...added to celiac disease that doesn't get diagnosed... > > One can waste a very long time finding out that the RDA's are only good if you're very fit and healthy. > > Bob Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 24, 2009 Report Share Posted October 24, 2009 Hi all, I have been taking Vitamin B (and other supplements) for over 40 years (on and off) and they saved me from total adrenal exhaustion………..but there again I was later found to be deficient even though I didn’t know that at the time. Yes I agree they could in a high enough dose cause issues with some people but one should always approach supplementation by not throwing caution to the wind by taking more than is required. Caution in everything – I consider myself to be knowledgeable about supplementation of vits and minerals but I still only take half the dose recommended until I know whether or not they are going to upset my system. I have kidney issues so I HAVE to be careful. Vitamin A – Vitamin D – too have to be approached with common sense. Everything works in a delicate balance in the body so to just throw vitamins and minerals at the liver and kidneys without knowing what else is deficient is a silly thing to do. However taking small trace doses will probably not cause any problems. I found with Vitamin B that it helped with stress and fatigue – but after taking for a long while I needed to have a ‘supplement’ holiday as the symptoms I had originally experienced were coming back i.e. I had reached tolerance and needed to clear my system. Everyone should stop taking their supplements for at least a week every so often. About 10 years ago I had multiple tests for vitamin and minerals levels and was shocked to see that I was technically suffering with malnutrition as I was malabsorbing. But I was told that had I not supplemented over the years that I would have had more health issues that I have today……….. If only the NHS did tests for these type of deficiencies the health of the nation would improve no end – but then the drugs industry would collapse and they would not want that – hence why they rubbish supplements. Hope this helps Regards Mandy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 24, 2009 Report Share Posted October 24, 2009 Sorry forgot to add that yes B comes out in the wee as it is processed and your wee will be bright yellow. See my previous E mail regarding dosage regime. Regards M Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 24, 2009 Report Share Posted October 24, 2009 Mostly taking too much of the B vits result in the excess being passed out in your urine. However, too much vitamin B6 can result in nerve damage to the arms and legs. This neuropathy is usually related to high intake of vitamin B6 from supplements, and is reversible when supplementation is stopped. According to the Institute of Medicine, " Several reports show sensory neuropathy at doses lower than 500 mg per day " . The Food and Nutrition Board of the Institute of Medicine has established an upper tolerable intake level for vitamin B6 of 100mg daily for all adults. Luv - Sheila am i right in thinking that you cant take too much b vitamins coss they come out in youre wee? .x No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.423 / Virus Database: 270.14.25/2450 - Release Date: 10/22/09 18:44:00 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 24, 2009 Report Share Posted October 24, 2009 Hi Mandy, There's also justification for only taking vitamin supplements on a few days a week (not totally random) to see if there are notable changes as between the days on and the days off the supplements. With trace metals, the situation is slightly different, in that the metalloproteins needed to get the metals in (absorbed) are produced for the metal that is supplemented and may not be available to absorb the other potential trace element requirements. Alternating the trace elements may be better every two or three days. Bob > > Hi all, > > > > I have been taking Vitamin B (and other supplements) for over 40 years (on > and off) and they saved me from total adrenal exhaustion.....but there again > I was later found to be deficient even though I didn't know that at the > time. > > > > Yes I agree they could in a high enough dose cause issues with some people > but one should always approach supplementation by not throwing caution to > the wind by taking more than is required. Caution in everything - I > consider myself to be knowledgeable about supplementation of vits and > minerals but I still only take half the dose recommended until I know > whether or not they are going to upset my system. I have kidney issues so I > HAVE to be careful. > > > > Vitamin A - Vitamin D - too have to be approached with common sense. > > > > Everything works in a delicate balance in the body so to just throw vitamins > and minerals at the liver and kidneys without knowing what else is deficient > is a silly thing to do. However taking small trace doses will probably not > cause any problems. > > > > I found with Vitamin B that it helped with stress and fatigue - but after > taking for a long while I needed to have a 'supplement' holiday as the > symptoms I had originally experienced were coming back i.e. I had reached > tolerance and needed to clear my system. Everyone should stop taking their > supplements for at least a week every so often. > > > > About 10 years ago I had multiple tests for vitamin and minerals levels and > was shocked to see that I was technically suffering with malnutrition as I > was malabsorbing. But I was told that had I not supplemented over the years > that I would have had more health issues that I have today..... > > > > If only the NHS did tests for these type of deficiencies the health of the > nation would improve no end - but then the drugs industry would collapse and > they would not want that - hence why they rubbish supplements. > > > > Hope this helps > > > > Regards > > > > Mandy > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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