Guest guest Posted August 30, 2009 Report Share Posted August 30, 2009 Hi Sharon - read this web site and that should help you. They show the possible causes, but whatever the cause, hypothyroidism is hypothyroidism and the treatment is exactly the same whatever the cause. One thing they never mention though is hypothyroidism that is caused because the thyroid hormone is unable to get into the cells - there is enough thyroid hormone, but it has nowhere to go, so this is another reason why people get all the symptoms and signs and continue to feel awful because their blood tests are fine, so their doctor refuses to give them a diagnosis and therefore, they are denied treatment. If you listened to the video I posted a link to this morning (which was an interview with Dr Mark Starr) that should help you understand. Luv - Sheila Hi, Why are there more than one thyroid diseases and whats the difference?Ive got hashimotos but dont know anything about it.I know there are hypo and hyper but dont know about the different hypo's.Are there certain symptoms with certain hypo's or certain degenerative problems with hashimoto's. Best wishes Sharon No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.409 / Virus Database: 270.13.71/2334 - Release Date: 08/29/09 17:51:00 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 31, 2009 Report Share Posted August 31, 2009 Hi Sharon, Some folk’s thyroids do fail without autoimmune antibodies, but the outcome is the same in the end. If you have one autoimmune disease such as Hashimoto’s then you would be more at risk for getting another. Subject: hashimotos Hi, Why are there more than one thyroid diseases and whats the difference?Ive got hashimotos but dont know anything about it.I know there are hypo and hyper but dont know about the different hypo's.Are there certain symptoms with certain hypo's or certain degenerative problems with hashimoto's. Best wishes Sharon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 7, 2010 Report Share Posted October 7, 2010 levothyroxine is not good hormones for thyroid. read the book http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0615144314?ie=UTF8 & tag=hormondisbal-20 & linkCode=as2 & camp=1789 & creative=9325 & creativeASIN=0615144314 there is also a site and forum http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com/ On Thu, Oct 7, 2010 at 5:54 PM, lynnbear3 <lynnbear3@...> wrote: I am new to all of this, but have had hashimotos hypothyroidism for about 12 years and have been on levothyroxine at .075mg since then.I started iodoral at one tablet for one month, then 2 for on month, but took a 2 week break because I didn't order it fast enough. I've just started 3 tablets, but still have not noticed much of a change. I have been much more fatigued and constipated since the spring and recently I have had really bad anxiety symptoms, like shortness of breath and feeling like I might black out. I also have had bad brain fog for about 9 years. I'm taking all the supplements and sometimes do the salt loading. I'm still taking my levothyroxine, and my heart rate is still only about 65 beats a minute, so I don't think I need to lower my dose. I got the doctor to check it about a month ago and it was fine, and I'm seeing a new naturopath next week who will hopefully help me. In the meantime, I'm looking for any advice, similar experiences or words to support. I haven't had anxiety like this in quite some time and it makes me want to quit the iodine, but i think it will help in time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 7, 2010 Report Share Posted October 7, 2010 Don't give up on the iodine!! Just make sure you are salt loading and taking companion supplements. I find a good epsom salt bath will alliviate some of the fatigue and detox symptoms. Ido is right, you should look into the nature throid or armour thyroid meds. Your conventional doctor is not going to want to put you on these but they really do work! He might even tell you that you can't get them from the pharmacy anymore, true for many pharmacies, but just tell him to find a compounding pharmacy they will be happy to help. Happy researching. From: ido zahavi <zahavi100@...>iodine Sent: Thu, October 7, 2010 12:06:55 PMSubject: Re: hashimotos levothyroxine is not good hormones for thyroid. read the book http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0615144314?ie=UTF8 & tag=hormondisbal-20 & linkCode=as2 & camp=1789 & creative=9325 & creativeASIN=0615144314 there is also a site and forum http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com/ On Thu, Oct 7, 2010 at 5:54 PM, lynnbear3 <lynnbear3@...> wrote: I am new to all of this, but have had hashimotos hypothyroidism for about 12 years and have been on levothyroxine at .075mg since then.I started iodoral at one tablet for one month, then 2 for on month, but took a 2 week break because I didn't order it fast enough. I've just started 3 tablets, but still have not noticed much of a change. I have been much more fatigued and constipated since the spring and recently I have had really bad anxiety symptoms, like shortness of breath and feeling like I might black out. I also have had bad brain fog for about 9 years. I'm taking all the supplements and sometimes do the salt loading. I'm still taking my levothyroxine, and my heart rate is still only about 65 beats a minute, so I don't think I need to lower my dose. I got the doctor to check it about a month ago and it was fine, and I'm seeing a new naturopath next week who will hopefully help me. In the meantime, I'm looking for any advice, similar experiences or words to support. I haven't had anxiety like this in quite some time and it makes me want to quit the iodine, but i think it will help in time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 7, 2010 Report Share Posted October 7, 2010 the Iodine Protocol website states: When you're Hypo and on meds and taking Iodine and start exhibiting symptoms of Hyper (ie;, shortness of breath) you need to reduce the Thyroid Hormone meds in half (1/2). Is your heartrate consistently 65? I know mine is lower first thing in the morning than later in the day. Also, do you take your blood pressure regularly? if not, get yourself a home b/p monitor from your nearest drugstore. It will tell you your heart rate and blood pressure and is very useful when having thryoid issues to begin with. Have you had your TSH, FT3 and FT4 tested since you started the iodine? you need to keep an eye on these. Konstantine From: Shepheard <amandashepheard@...>iodine Sent: Thu, October 7, 2010 9:34:56 AMSubject: Re: hashimotos Don't give up on the iodine!! Just make sure you are salt loading and taking companion supplements. I find a good epsom salt bath will alliviate some of the fatigue and detox symptoms. Ido is right, you should look into the nature throid or armour thyroid meds. Your conventional doctor is not going to want to put you on these but they really do work! He might even tell you that you can't get them from the pharmacy anymore, true for many pharmacies, but just tell him to find a compounding pharmacy they will be happy to help. Happy researching. From: ido zahavi <zahavi100@...>iodine Sent: Thu, October 7, 2010 12:06:55 PMSubject: Re: hashimotos levothyroxine is not good hormones for thyroid. read the book http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0615144314?ie=UTF8 & tag=hormondisbal-20 & linkCode=as2 & camp=1789 & creative=9325 & creativeASIN=0615144314 there is also a site and forum http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com/ On Thu, Oct 7, 2010 at 5:54 PM, lynnbear3 <lynnbear3@...> wrote: I am new to all of this, but have had hashimotos hypothyroidism for about 12 years and have been on levothyroxine at .075mg since then.I started iodoral at one tablet for one month, then 2 for on month, but took a 2 week break because I didn't order it fast enough. I've just started 3 tablets, but still have not noticed much of a change. I have been much more fatigued and constipated since the spring and recently I have had really bad anxiety symptoms, like shortness of breath and feeling like I might black out. I also have had bad brain fog for about 9 years. I'm taking all the supplements and sometimes do the salt loading. I'm still taking my levothyroxine, and my heart rate is still only about 65 beats a minute, so I don't think I need to lower my dose. I got the doctor to check it about a month ago and it was fine, and I'm seeing a new naturopath next week who will hopefully help me. In the meantime, I'm looking for any advice, similar experiences or words to support. I haven't had anxiety like this in quite some time and it makes me want to quit the iodine, but i think it will help in time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 7, 2010 Report Share Posted October 7, 2010 A T4 of 16.4 is Hyper Thyroid, it's good that it's in the normal range again. However, your symptoms are leading me to believe you are still Hyper in which case would affect your iodine intake. You need to get your TSH, FT3 and FT4 checked. The change from 16.4 to 13 is small but good in relation to FT3 (which we don't have a number for yet), so yes, I would agree is functioning better, but, may be too good? and if you were hyper before it's imperative to get your thyroid function tests checked often. (say every 4-6 weeks) You can get thyroid tests from a Naturpath or a GP. Please post after you get them back. re: Brazil Nuts, good for selenium. The food source is always better than the supplement, unless you are very deficient. Konstantine From: lynnbear3 <lynnbear3@...>iodine Sent: Thu, October 7, 2010 10:37:25 AMSubject: hashimotos My heart rate is usually 65 beats per minute, even when I'm very short of breath. My doctor checked my TSH and T4 and maybe T3 late August. I got a copy of it but didn''t see T3. My T4 in June,before iodine, was 16.4 and late August after a month of iodine, it was 13 which he said was still in the normal range.I believe the change in the numbers means my thyroid is functioning better, but still don't understand it all.Does anyone know if a naturopath will check the thyroid levels, or do I need my GP to do that?And one more question. I've been taking 3 brazil nuts each day because I've researched that that amount of nuts contains the right amount of selenium. Should I take the nuts or get a supplement?Thanks! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 7, 2010 Report Share Posted October 7, 2010 these are good questions. it's a little muffled right now, until we actually see your labs. The protocol says to cut the Thyroxine in half when showing symptoms of hyper. You could be hyper with fatigue and constipation relating to iodine detox maybe. Cutting back on the iodine wouldn't hurt, either. you can always bump it back up once you see the labs. Just some guidance, but you will have to make the ultimate decision, I know it's hard. Konstantine From: lynnbear3 <lynnbear3@...>iodine Sent: Thu, October 7, 2010 11:30:06 AMSubject: hashimotos Thanks for the reply. Do you think I should cut back on the iodine or the levothyroxine until I get my thyroid tests?I'm going to try to get them done today or tomorrow, but would not get the results until next week. Any advice on what to do in the meantime?And do you think I could be hyper even though I am tired and still slightly constipated? (I go every day but it's not my normal easy time in the bathroom which changed to slightly constipated since May. i should say also that my BMs were easy and normal after I had been on iodine for a month or so. I'm wondering if the 2 week break I had from iodine altered that a bit). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 7, 2010 Report Share Posted October 7, 2010 The quantity of selenium in brazil nuts can vary. Personally I think it's important to make sure you're really getting the recommended amount. I've been occasionally having brazil nuts also, but not counting on it for my selenium count. The anxiety can just be detox symptoms. 3 tabs of Iodoral is still only 37mg of iodine, which is below what is believed to be therapeutic levels for people to start with. Open your detox pathways (various posts on this available) and you'll clear out a lot faster. -- At 12:37 PM 10/7/2010, you wrote: >My heart rate is usually 65 beats per minute, even when I'm very short of >breath. >My doctor checked my TSH and T4 and maybe T3 late August. I got a copy of >it but didn''t see T3. My T4 in June,before iodine, was 16.4 and late >August after a month of iodine, it was 13 which he said was still in the >normal range. >I believe the change in the numbers means my thyroid is functioning >better, but still don't understand it all. >Does anyone know if a naturopath will check the thyroid levels, or do I >need my GP to do that? >And one more question. I've been taking 3 brazil nuts each day because >I've researched that that amount of nuts contains the right amount of >selenium. Should I take the nuts or get a supplement? >Thanks! > > > >------------------------------------ > >All off topic posts should go to the IodineOT >group IodineOT/ > > >Commonly asked questions: http://tinyurl.com/yhnds5e Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 7, 2010 Report Share Posted October 7, 2010 I don't think you should take someone's advice from this list to stop the levox. I didn't see where your doctor told you you were hyper and wouldn't be prescribing levox if you were hyper. I went undiagnosed with hypoT for more than 10 years and someone telling you to stop your levox doesn't seem right to me-- it's terrible on the body to not be getting the thyroid meds. I agree tho that you'll feel a lot better on NatureThroid or Armour-- I resisted it for years and when I finally started on it, was like night and day. If your BMs were regular on iodine and not so great since stopping, then yes it's pretty clear your regularity was enhanced by the iodine. Increase your magnesium some if you're having problems. If money is a threat on the iodoral, and I have similar concerns, Lugol's is cheaper tho less convenient. The best/cheapest source I've found is on ebay. This seller is trustworthy, I have bought from him. http://cgi.ebay.com/Lugols-solution-4-fl-oz-2-2-iodine-/320494213873?pt=LH_Defau\ ltDomain_0 & hash=item4a9ef19af1 -- >Thanks for the reply. Do you think I should cut back on the iodine or the >levothyroxine until I get my thyroid tests? >I'm going to try to get them done today or tomorrow, but would not get the >results until next week. Any advice on what to do in the meantime? >And do you think I could be hyper even though I am tired and still >slightly constipated? (I go every day but it's not my normal easy time in >the bathroom which changed to slightly constipated since May. i should >say also that my BMs were easy and normal after I had been on iodine for a >month or so. I'm wondering if the 2 week break I had from iodine altered >that a bit). > > > >------------------------------------ > >All off topic posts should go to the IodineOT >group IodineOT/ > > >Commonly asked questions: http://tinyurl.com/yhnds5e Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 7, 2010 Report Share Posted October 7, 2010 Anxiety can also be a detox symptom. I don't think she should cut her levox without the test, which she's taking immediately. -- At 01:49 PM 10/7/2010, you wrote: >these are good questions. it's a little muffled right now, until we >actually see your labs. > >The protocol says to cut the Thyroxine in half when showing symptoms of >hyper. You could be hyper with fatigue and constipation relating to iodine >detox maybe. Cutting back on the iodine wouldn't hurt, either. you can >always bump it back up once you see the labs. > >Just some guidance, but you will have to make the ultimate decision, I >know it's hard. > > Konstantine > > > >From: lynnbear3 <lynnbear3@...> >iodine >Sent: Thu, October 7, 2010 11:30:06 AM >Subject: hashimotos > > > >Thanks for the reply. Do you think I should cut back on the iodine or the >levothyroxine until I get my thyroid tests? >I'm going to try to get them done today or tomorrow, but would not get the >results until next week. Any advice on what to do in the meantime? >And do you think I could be hyper even though I am tired and still >slightly constipated? (I go every day but it's not my normal easy time in >the bathroom which changed to slightly constipated since May. i should say >also that my BMs were easy and normal after I had been on iodine for a >month or so. I'm wondering if the 2 week break I had from iodine altered >that a bit). > > > > > > >No virus found in this incoming message. >Checked by AVG - www.avg.com >Version: 9.0.862 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/3182 - Release Date: 10/07/10 >01:34:00 ~~~ There is no way to peace; peace is the way ~~~~ --A.J. Muste Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 7, 2010 Report Share Posted October 7, 2010 Levothyroxine has a 7 day 1/2 life and is stable when a dose is missed. Just some good info to know. I do agree that unless you are self-managing your medication, which many people are these days due to docs not understanding about thyroid tests and meds, always check with your doc first. However, with that said, you are the one that has to make the final decision since it's your body, just like when you started the iodine protocol and may have heard adverse reactions from docs and friends. What I've learned is the more educated we are, the better decisions we can make for ourselves. Since, we don't know if you are in fact hyper, this must be taken into consideration when you make your decision of what to do next. Here's some info I thought would be helpful from the Iodine Group Website: http://iodine4health.com/ortho/flechas_ortho.htm "What happens to thyroid hormone production in the presence of iodine supplementation? Iodine supplementations should be prescribed only when iodine testing indicates iodine deficiency. Iodine testing kits can be ordered from my office (828 684 3233) by individuals or by medical practitioners. Traditional medical literature indicates that patients who have thyroid nodules or thyroid goiter may have the potential to develop hyperthyroidism when supplementing with iodine. Hence, before commencing iodine supplementation, it would be advantageous for a person to have their primary care doctor order a thyroid ultrasound to rule out the possibility of pre-existing goiter or thyroid nodules. The primary care doctor should also order thyroid lab work (to be used as a baseline) before prescribing iodine therapy and this lab work should be repeated and followed at regular intervals during the patient's iodine therapy. For iodine therapy patients not also on thyroid hormone replacement therapy, adjustments to the iodine therapy should be made if signs of hyperthyroidism should occur. Should signs of hyperthyroidism occur in patients who are taking thyroid hormone replacement therapy as well as taking iodine supplementation, the physician should first recommend an adjustment in the thyroid hormone therapy rather than in the iodine supplementation. This adjustment in therapy is recommended because iodine is required not only by the thyroid but is required for the proper functioning of many other tissues. The presence of pre-existing thyroid nodules or goiter does not preclude the patient from iodine supplementation therapy. In fact, in the extensive research with iodine therapy done in my office, I have seen many case of pre-existing thyroid nodules and goiter shrink in the presence of iodine therapy." Konstantine From: Baker <vbaker@...>iodine Sent: Thu, October 7, 2010 12:55:53 PMSubject: Re: hashimotos Anxiety can also be a detox symptom. I don't think she should cut her levox without the test, which she's taking immediately.--At 01:49 PM 10/7/2010, you wrote:>these are good questions. it's a little muffled right now, until we >actually see your labs.>>The protocol says to cut the Thyroxine in half when showing symptoms of >hyper. You could be hyper with fatigue and constipation relating to iodine >detox maybe. Cutting back on the iodine wouldn't hurt, either. you can >always bump it back up once you see the labs.>>Just some guidance, but you will have to make the ultimate decision, I >know it's hard.>> Konstantine>>>>From: lynnbear3 <lynnbear3@...>>iodine >Sent: Thu, October 7, 2010 11:30:06 AM>Subject: hashimotos>>>>Thanks for the reply. Do you think I should cut back on the iodine or the >levothyroxine until I get my thyroid tests?>I'm going to try to get them done today or tomorrow, but would not get the >results until next week. Any advice on what to do in the meantime?>And do you think I could be hyper even though I am tired and still >slightly constipated? (I go every day but it's not my normal easy time in >the bathroom which changed to slightly constipated since May. i should say >also that my BMs were easy and normal after I had been on iodine for a >month or so. I'm wondering if the 2 week break I had from iodine altered >that a bit).>>>>>>>No virus found in this incoming message.>Checked by AVG - www.avg.com>Version: 9.0.862 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/3182 - Release Date: 10/07/10 >01:34:00~~~ There is no way to peace; peace is the way ~~~~--A.J. Muste Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 7, 2010 Report Share Posted October 7, 2010 do keep an eye on your blood pressure and pulse, both are good indicators of hyper symptoms. Also, you can take your temps and if they're under 96.8 consistently, you can consider yourself still hypo. Konstantine From: lynnbear3 <lynnbear3@...>iodine Sent: Thu, October 7, 2010 4:21:28 PMSubject: hashimotos Thanks for the Flechas website. I've come across that one before in my research. I've never had the iodine test done for deficiency, but I assume anyone who has hypothroidism has a deficiency in iodine. Also, I've had digestive issues for many years, dry eyes and mouth, and don't sweat much, as well as other hypothyroid symptoms like brain fog, fatigue, cold hands and feet, etc.I got a blood test done today, and the doctor will only call if there is a problem, unless I schedule an appointment to get the results. My blood pressure was a bit high, but he said that could just be me being busy lately which I have been. I feel better now that I've gotten the test. thanks to everyone for all the posts. I'll keep you all updated. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 7, 2010 Report Share Posted October 7, 2010 Thanks , My blood pressure is usually perfect, so it could be a hyper symptom. I haven't checked my temperature lately, but will tomorrow morning. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 8, 2010 Report Share Posted October 8, 2010 I would deal with the constipation, since that is preventing the quick elimination of the toxins, which are then giving you detox symptoms of the shortness of breath and such you have listed. Do the salt loading when you have those symptoms, but work on getting the bowels moving quickly. That will help tremendously. Donna in IL From: iodine [mailto:iodine ] On Behalf Of lynnbear3 Sent: Thursday, October 07, 2010 1:30 PM iodine Subject: hashimotos Thanks for the reply. Do you think I should cut back on the iodine or the levothyroxine until I get my thyroid tests? I'm going to try to get them done today or tomorrow, but would not get the results until next week. Any advice on what to do in the meantime? And do you think I could be hyper even though I am tired and still slightly constipated? (I go every day but it's not my normal easy time in the bathroom which changed to slightly constipated since May. i should say also that my BMs were easy and normal after I had been on iodine for a month or so. I'm wondering if the 2 week break I had from iodine altered that a bit). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 8, 2010 Report Share Posted October 8, 2010 These things work for constipation: 1. Stay hydrated 2. Soak prunes in water overnight and drink the water in the morning. 3. Take extra Magnesium and / or Vit C 4. Grind up 1 Tbs Flaxseed and add to some applesauce and eat it 2x / day. RE: hashimotos I would deal with the constipation, since that is preventing the quick elimination of the toxins, which are then giving you detox symptoms of the shortness of breath and such you have listed. Do the salt loading when you have those symptoms, but work on getting the bowels moving quickly. That will help tremendously. Donna in IL From: iodine [mailto:iodine ] On Behalf Of lynnbear3Sent: Thursday, October 07, 2010 1:30 PMiodine Subject: hashimotos Thanks for the reply. Do you think I should cut back on the iodine or the levothyroxine until I get my thyroid tests?I'm going to try to get them done today or tomorrow, but would not get the results until next week. Any advice on what to do in the meantime?And do you think I could be hyper even though I am tired and still slightly constipated? (I go every day but it's not my normal easy time in the bathroom which changed to slightly constipated since May. i should say also that my BMs were easy and normal after I had been on iodine for a month or so. I'm wondering if the 2 week break I had from iodine altered that a bit). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 8, 2010 Report Share Posted October 8, 2010 I think you will feel better on at least 50mg Iodoral. I could not take less than 50mg. also you need to support adrenals--have you looked at http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com? Gracia On 10/7/2010 11:54 AM, lynnbear3 wrote: I am new to all of this, but have had hashimotos hypothyroidism for about 12 years and have been on levothyroxine at .075mg since then. I started iodoral at one tablet for one month, then 2 for on month, but took a 2 week break because I didn't order it fast enough. I've just started 3 tablets, but still have not noticed much of a change. I have been much more fatigued and constipated since the spring and recently I have had really bad anxiety symptoms, like shortness of breath and feeling like I might black out. I also have had bad brain fog for about 9 years. I'm taking all the supplements and sometimes do the salt loading. I'm still taking my levothyroxine, and my heart rate is still only about 65 beats a minute, so I don't think I need to lower my dose. I got the doctor to check it about a month ago and it was fine, and I'm seeing a new naturopath next week who will hopefully help me. In the meantime, I'm looking for any advice, similar experiences or words to support. I haven't had anxiety like this in quite some time and it makes me want to quit the iodine, but i think it will help in time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 8, 2010 Report Share Posted October 8, 2010 and get proper thyroid treatment since constipation is a hypoT symptom. gracia On 10/8/2010 9:27 AM, ladybugsandbees wrote: These things work for constipation: 1. Stay hydrated 2. Soak prunes in water overnight and drink the water in the morning. 3. Take extra Magnesium and / or Vit C 4. Grind up 1 Tbs Flaxseed and add to some applesauce and eat it 2x / day. hashimotos Thanks for the reply. Do you think I should cut back on the iodine or the levothyroxine until I get my thyroid tests? I'm going to try to get them done today or tomorrow, but would not get the results until next week. Any advice on what to do in the meantime? And do you think I could be hyper even though I am tired and still slightly constipated? (I go every day but it's not my normal easy time in the bathroom which changed to slightly constipated since May. i should say also that my BMs were easy and normal after I had been on iodine for a month or so. I'm wondering if the 2 week break I had from iodine altered that a bit). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 8, 2010 Report Share Posted October 8, 2010 Thanks Donna, Good advice to get the bowels moving, but luckily yesterday everything kicked in and they started moving really well! Lynn B. > > I would deal with the constipation, since that is preventing the quick elimination of the toxins, which are then giving you detox symptoms of the shortness of breath and such you have listed. Do the salt loading when you have those symptoms, but work on getting the bowels moving quickly. That will help tremendously. > Donna in IL > > From: iodine [mailto:iodine ] On Behalf Of lynnbear3 > Sent: Thursday, October 07, 2010 1:30 PM > iodine > Subject: hashimotos > > > > Thanks for the reply. Do you think I should cut back on the iodine or the levothyroxine until I get my thyroid tests? > I'm going to try to get them done today or tomorrow, but would not get the results until next week. Any advice on what to do in the meantime? > And do you think I could be hyper even though I am tired and still slightly constipated? (I go every day but it's not my normal easy time in the bathroom which changed to slightly constipated since May. i should say also that my BMs were easy and normal after I had been on iodine for a month or so. I'm wondering if the 2 week break I had from iodine altered that a bit). > > ________________________________ > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 8, 2010 Report Share Posted October 8, 2010 Thanks Gracia, I think I will try 50mg of iodoral but may wait to get my thyroid blood test results since I've been short of breath lately. I haven't had a lot of time to check out that site, but definitely will or perhaps i'll buy the book. > > > > I am new to all of this, but have had hashimotos hypothyroidism for > > about 12 years and have been on levothyroxine at .075mg since then. > > I started iodoral at one tablet for one month, then 2 for on month, > > but took a 2 week break because I didn't order it fast enough. I've > > just started 3 tablets, but still have not noticed much of a change. I > > have been much more fatigued and constipated since the spring and > > recently I have had really bad anxiety symptoms, like shortness of > > breath and feeling like I might black out. I also have had bad brain > > fog for about 9 years. I'm taking all the supplements and sometimes do > > the salt loading. I'm still taking my levothyroxine, and my heart rate > > is still only about 65 beats a minute, so I don't think I need to > > lower my dose. I got the doctor to check it about a month ago and it > > was fine, and I'm seeing a new naturopath next week who will hopefully > > help me. In the meantime, I'm looking for any advice, similar > > experiences or words to support. I haven't had anxiety like this in > > quite some time and it makes me want to quit the iodine, but i think > > it will help in time. > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 8, 2010 Report Share Posted October 8, 2010 Frequent bowel movements is a symptom of hyper.LinnOn Oct 8, 2010, at 8:23 AM, Donna Iler wrote: I would deal with the constipation, since that is preventing the quick elimination of the toxins, which are then giving you detox symptoms of the shortness of breath and such you have listed. Do the salt loading when you have those symptoms, but work on getting the bowels moving quickly. That will help tremendously.Donna in IL From: iodine [mailto:iodine ] On Behalf Of lynnbear3 Sent: Thursday, October 07, 2010 1:30 PM iodine Subject: hashimotos Thanks for the reply. Do you think I should cut back on the iodine or the levothyroxine until I get my thyroid tests? I'm going to try to get them done today or tomorrow, but would not get the results until next week. Any advice on what to do in the meantime? And do you think I could be hyper even though I am tired and still slightly constipated? (I go every day but it's not my normal easy time in the bathroom which changed to slightly constipated since May. i should say also that my BMs were easy and normal after I had been on iodine for a month or so. I'm wondering if the 2 week break I had from iodine altered that a bit). Linn Sew Sweet Designz by Linnhttp://www.sewsweetdesignzbylinn.com281-778-1006 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 8, 2010 Report Share Posted October 8, 2010 make sure to get FREE T3 and FREE T4 and post results here with ranges--don't just do TSH. TSH mght be elevated from the iodine. Gracia On 10/8/2010 10:43 AM, lynnbear3 wrote: Thanks Gracia, I think I will try 50mg of iodoral but may wait to get my thyroid blood test results since I've been short of breath lately. I haven't had a lot of time to check out that site, but definitely will or perhaps i'll buy the book. > > I think you will feel better on at least 50mg Iodoral. I could not > take less than 50mg. also you need to support adrenals--have you > looked at http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com? > Gracia > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 8, 2010 Report Share Posted October 8, 2010 Hello, I might try Iosol iodine to see if there is a difference. Bryon s says Lugol's/Iodoral and kelp cause hashimotos. I don't know if it is true but Iosol iodine is not supposed to jam up the thyroid. They don't give references and I can't back this advice up. Just another option. Joan > > Thanks , > My blood pressure is usually perfect, so it could be a hyper symptom. I haven't checked my temperature lately, but will tomorrow morning. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 8, 2010 Report Share Posted October 8, 2010 Frequent BMs can also be a sign of many things, including nervousness and stress and lack of sleep, and is a component of illnesses like IBS, Crohn's, fibromyalgia. I'm concerned that people are jumping to the conclusion that people are hypErthyroid when they are not. I've had brief periods of extra energy, or heart flutters, that I so hoped were signs I needed to lower my thyroid meds, but were just transient phenomena or detox symptoms. -- At 09:44 AM 10/8/2010, you wrote: >Frequent bowel movements is a symptom of hyper. > >Linn > >On Oct 8, 2010, at 8:23 AM, Donna Iler wrote: > >> >> >>I would deal with the constipation, since that is preventing the quick >>elimination of the toxins, which are then giving you detox symptoms of >>the shortness of breath and such you have listed. Do the salt loading >>when you have those symptoms, but work on getting the bowels moving >>quickly. That will help tremendously. >> >>Donna in IL >> >> >> >>From: <mailto:iodine >iodine >>[mailto:iodine ] On Behalf Of lynnbear3 >>Sent: Thursday, October 07, 2010 1:30 PM >><mailto:iodine >iodine >>Subject: hashimotos >> >> >> >> >> >>Thanks for the reply. Do you think I should cut back on the iodine or the >>levothyroxine until I get my thyroid tests? >>I'm going to try to get them done today or tomorrow, but would not get >>the results until next week. Any advice on what to do in the meantime? >>And do you think I could be hyper even though I am tired and still >>slightly constipated? (I go every day but it's not my normal easy time in >>the bathroom which changed to slightly constipated since May. i should >>say also that my BMs were easy and normal after I had been on iodine for >>a month or so. I'm wondering if the 2 week break I had from iodine >>altered that a bit). >> > >Linn >Sew Sweet Designz by Linn ><http://www.sewsweetdesignzbylinn.com>http://www.sewsweetdesignzbylinn.com >281-778-1006 > > > > > > > >No virus found in this incoming message. >Checked by AVG - www.avg.com >Version: 9.0.862 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/3183 - Release Date: 10/07/10 >13:34:00 ~~~ There is no way to peace; peace is the way ~~~~ --A.J. Muste Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 8, 2010 Report Share Posted October 8, 2010 Byron s doesn't know what he's talking about if that's what he says. This is erroneous information about iodine. -- >Hello, > >I might try Iosol iodine to see if there is a difference. Bryon s >says Lugol's/Iodoral and kelp cause hashimotos. I don't know if it is >true but Iosol iodine is not supposed to jam up the thyroid. They don't >give references and I can't back this advice up. Just another option. > >Joan > > > > > > Thanks , > > My blood pressure is usually perfect, so it could be a hyper > symptom. I haven't checked my temperature lately, but will tomorrow morning. ~~~ There is no way to peace; peace is the way ~~~~ --A.J. Muste Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 8, 2010 Report Share Posted October 8, 2010 I should have phrased that it "can" be a symptom. I have been having hyper symptoms along with labs that show the same, but I will reiterate that it's after 5 years worth of detoxing, iodine and a number of other supplements that seem to have gotten me to this point. I am down to a small dose of Armour (60 mgs) but still feeling the same symptoms. I've added in ATP Cofactor twice daily, but only at half a pill each time. I have had very good results from this particular supplement. After labs again in a couple more weeks, will be phasing out the thyroid meds. Linn On Oct 8, 2010, at 1:05 PM, Baker wrote: Frequent BMs can also be a sign of many things, including nervousness and stress and lack of sleep, and is a component of illnesses like IBS, Crohn's, fibromyalgia. I'm concerned that people are jumping to the conclusion that people are hypErthyroid when they are not. I've had brief periods of extra energy, or heart flutters, that I so hoped were signs I needed to lower my thyroid meds, but were just transient phenomena or detox symptoms. -- At 09:44 AM 10/8/2010, you wrote: >Frequent bowel movements is a symptom of hyper. > >Linn > >On Oct 8, 2010, at 8:23 AM, Donna Iler wrote: > >> >> >>I would deal with the constipation, since that is preventing the quick >>elimination of the toxins, which are then giving you detox symptoms of >>the shortness of breath and such you have listed. Do the salt loading >>when you have those symptoms, but work on getting the bowels moving >>quickly. That will help tremendously. >> >>Donna in IL >> >> >> >>From: <mailto:iodine >iodine >>[mailto:iodine ] On Behalf Of lynnbear3 >>Sent: Thursday, October 07, 2010 1:30 PM >><mailto:iodine >iodine >>Subject: hashimotos >> >> >> >> >> >>Thanks for the reply. Do you think I should cut back on the iodine or the >>levothyroxine until I get my thyroid tests? >>I'm going to try to get them done today or tomorrow, but would not get >>the results until next week. Any advice on what to do in the meantime? >>And do you think I could be hyper even though I am tired and still >>slightly constipated? (I go every day but it's not my normal easy time in >>the bathroom which changed to slightly constipated since May. i should >>say also that my BMs were easy and normal after I had been on iodine for >>a month or so. I'm wondering if the 2 week break I had from iodine >>altered that a bit). >> > >Linn >Sew Sweet Designz by Linn ><http://www.sewsweetdesignzbylinn.com>http://www.sewsweetdesignzbylinn.com >281-778-1006 > > > > > > > >No virus found in this incoming message. >Checked by AVG - www.avg.com >Version: 9.0.862 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/3183 - Release Date: 10/07/10 >13:34:00 ~~~ There is no way to peace; peace is the way ~~~~ --A.J. Muste Linn Sew Sweet Designz by Linnhttp://www.sewsweetdesignzbylinn.com281-778-1006 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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