Re: Swanson's Mag oil

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I have Ancient Minerals and it doesn't absorb very well at all on me, leaving a very sticky feeling. i don't use it often because of this.Nonie

iodine From: clairewest@...Date: Tue, 17 Aug 2010 17:07:59 -0700Subject: Re: Swanson's Mag oil

I've been following this thread with interest, thinking I really should use the bottle of Ocean Minerals that has been sitting around here forever. When I went to the Swanson's website and began reading, I came across this: "The magnesium gives it a slippery feel, which is why it is called Magnesium Oil. It absorbs readily into the skin, leaving no oily residue, no scent, no sign whatsoever that it has been applied." And that reminded me of why I had given up on the oil I have: a day or so after applying it to my (very dry) legs, I could still feel an unpleasantly slick "coating" on my legs which I would finally wash off. Do I have a "bad" brand of the oil? Or has anyone else found the oil to be non-absorbing?

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Absolutely. It's wonderful. I've used it on aching joints as well.

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At 12:01 AM 8/18/2010, you wrote:

>Can you use it topically on sore muscles too?

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> > > From: Yard Bird <yardbirdmail@...>

> > > Subject: Re: Swanson's Mag oil

> > > iodine

> > > Date: Tuesday, August 17, 2010, 4:53 PM

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> > > Works great for me:)

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> > > Bethann

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> > >> I'm wanting to hear any input any of you may have about the

> > >> magnesium oil that Swanson's has. It says it is from the same

> > >> deposits the Ancient Minerals is from.

> > >> I don't think I can handle the $$$$ on the Ancient Minerals, but

> > >> would like to try major use of mag oil.

> > >> So, if anyone has experience with it or further info, please let

> > >> me hear.

> > >> Thanks much,

> > >> Judy

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The reason it works is because it is putting mag into your system. Go look

at the info for the other brand, they make more statements.

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At 12:05 AM 8/18/2010, you wrote:

>Actually the website says massage into affected area, it is designed for

>muscles, not as a suppliment or so it seems!

~~~ There is no way to peace; peace is the way ~~~~

--A.J. Muste

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Can someone tell me how to access that list?

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> I am moving this to the OT list, I hope that's OK!

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> I made my own magnesium " oil " with epsom salts in water. I mixed it so

> that there was some of the salts in the bottom of the bottle that would

> not dissolve and then added just enough water to get them to dissolve.

> I put about three tablespoons of this solution on my skin every day. It

> seems to be having some effect, I no longer have muscle aches and am

> sleeping better. My solution feels " oily " also, like the Ancient

> Minerals site says their product feels.

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> My solution cost just pennies because epsom salts were on sale a couple

> weeks ago, one quart size carton for $1.49.

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I think different people will have different ideas of what is objectionable

or not. It soaks in faster when I'm right out of the bath than it does if

my pores are closed, but I don't find the feeling of it a problem. Many

people will slather it on themselves, wait 30 minutes, then wash it off to

avoid stickiness. The Ancient Minerals brand has a version that is mixed

with thicker aloe vera gel that is really lovely, I loved it on my face.

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At 12:08 AM 8/18/2010, you wrote:

>I have Ancient Minerals and it doesn't absorb very well at all on me,

>leaving a very sticky feeling. i don't use it often because of this.

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>Nonie

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>iodine

>From: clairewest@...

>Date: Tue, 17 Aug 2010 17:07:59 -0700

>Subject: Re: Swanson's Mag oil

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>I've been following this thread with interest, thinking I really should

>use the bottle of Ocean Minerals that has been sitting around here

>forever. When I went to the Swanson's website and began reading, I came

>across this: " The magnesium gives it a slippery feel, which is why it is

>called Magnesium Oil. It absorbs readily into the skin, leaving no oily

>residue, no scent, no sign whatsoever that it has been applied. " And that

>reminded me of why I had given up on the oil I have: a day or so after

>applying it to my (very dry) legs, I could still feel an unpleasantly

>slick " coating " on my legs which I would finally wash off. Do I have a

> " bad " brand of the oil? Or has anyone else found the oil to be non-absorbing?

>

>

~~~ There is no way to peace; peace is the way ~~~~

--A.J. Muste

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Yes, epsom salts does work to raise magnesium levels. If you check out the

link I sent earlier with a comparison of the two you'll see the differences.

http://www.shirleys-wellness-cafe.com/magnesium.htm#versus

I had not heard about DHEA being raised by mag oil and I think baxrox

should provide a link to this information.

The info I find is that low levels of magnesium inhibit healing.

In any case, Eileen, if you are concerned, take bath soaks in epsom salts

and you can make the liquid and use that. But I think more research is in

order.

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At 11:59 PM 8/17/2010, you wrote:

>This is of some concern to me... my integration specialist is pretty

>intense in his wanting me NOT to take DHEA or raise my levels, as he has

>had two breast cancer patients who have experienced a huge upgrade in

>speed of progression after taking it. Would the Epsom salt version avoid

>raising the DHEA levels, but still help raise magnesium levels and help

>aching muscles? I'm having a lot of muscle spasms and referred pain from

>mets in hips...

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>~Eileen

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> > Transdermal magnesium chloride also was proven to raise DHEA levels but

> this effect was not realized when using other forms and applications of

> magnesium, including magnesium sulfate (epsom salts).

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Baxrox-- Can you please provide a link to this information? --

> > Transdermal magnesium chloride also was proven to raise DHEA levels but

> this effect was not realized when using other forms and applications of

> magnesium, including magnesium sulfate (epsom salts).

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~~~ There is no way to peace; peace is the way ~~~~

--A.J. Muste

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This question has occurred to me as well. It seems a bit of a strange place to

be in that DHEA is such a critical element for health and vitality, yet at times

it is a " concern " for certain health issues.

FWIW - Dr. Shealy never advocates supplementing DHEA directly for exactly the

reasons you are concerned about but does advocate the bodies natural production

of it. Have no idea how he might address your question but you can ask him

yourself ... every Thursday he has a one hour radio show in his local hometown.

The show is also broadcast over the internet so you can listen online and call

in... or just call in to the show during it's broadcast, the link is on his

website. Shealy is also an advocate of Iodoral he would be on somewhat familiar

territory.

I have also wondered if having adequate iodine levels is one of the key

components of quelching the concern of having DHEA levels that are adequate,

normal and beneficial for vitality. Or perhaps it is estrogen dominance & the

aromatization of testosterone (which can be changed). Or both? Hmmm, didn't

Suzanne Somers speak to this in her book? (haven't read it, just remember some

of the interviews) My holistic physician has tried to get me to take oral DHEA

for years but I will not. Achieving that by other means.

Epsoms salts should be very helpful for aching muscles and if you do not have

reactions to sulfate then it seems worthwhile to try out. Interestingly, all

forms of magnesium turn into Mg chloride in the body to make them useable so it

might be said that all other forms are less effective and cause the body to do

extra work to turn them into the chloride form.

Good question though. It reminds me of being told that iodine (as Iodoral)

would ruin my thyroid and having to then search and ask to sort things out.

Unfortunately one of my family members was getting benefits from Iodoral but

when their TSH began to rise early in their supplementation their Dr. told them

to stop the Iodoral. They don't have the whole picture nor was it approached

in an ecological way as is recommended on this forum.

Best of luck~

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> > Transdermal magnesium chloride also was proven to raise DHEA levels but this

effect was not realized when using other forms and applications of magnesium,

including magnesium sulfate (epsom salts).

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This is a link to his research page:

http://www.selfhealthsystems.com/mm5/merchant.mvc?Screen=hih & Store_Code=SHS

Close to the bottom of the page there is this: " Transdermal magnesium chloride

raised DHEA. Oral and IV magnesium chloride and transdermal magnesium sulfate

did not raise DHEA "

This statement is in other articles he has written and is quoted by several

other folks/physicians but I don't know if they just took his word for it or if

they have seen the research. (type in a search for ' Shealy magnesium chloride

raise dhea ') Dr. Shealy has credibility with me so I am trusting of his claim.

I occasionally listen to his weekly radio show and have heard him make this

comment there as well, though if a person is wanting to raise DHEA in particular

he actually has 4 things that he recommends and transdermal Mg chloride is one

of the 4. As I replied to the other person Shealy advises against oral

supplementation of DHEA but strongly advocates adequate levels of it when

achieved properly.

The link to his weekly radio show is on his website so he is available to answer

questions. I don't know if the actual research documents are online or not.

Good that you asked - I always like to ferret out the source and reliability of

information too.

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> Baxrox-- Can you please provide a link to this information? --

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> > > Transdermal magnesium chloride also was proven to raise DHEA levels but

> > this effect was not realized when using other forms and applications of

> > magnesium, including magnesium sulfate (epsom salts).

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> ~~~ There is no way to peace; peace is the way ~~~~

> --A.J. Muste

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Bethann,

For me finnding magnesium was the end of sciatica pain in my lower back. The pain which lead me foolishly to agree to an operation. An operation which didn't heal the problem but damaged nerves going to my foot which means my left leg is now irreperably damaged.

According to Null Phd. there are 7.5 million unnecessary operations performed every year. Thats 75 million in ten years. What a scam.

Glad to read you got a good result with magnesium.

From: Yard Bird <yardbirdmail@...>Subject: Re: Swanson's Mag oiliodine Date: Tuesday, August 17, 2010, 4:53 PM

Works great for me:)Bethann

I'm wanting to hear any input any of you may have about the magnesium oil that Swanson's has. It says it is from the same deposits the Ancient Minerals is from.I don't think I can handle the $$$$ on the Ancient Minerals, but would like to try major use of mag oil.So, if anyone has experience with it or further info, please let me hear.Thanks much,Judy

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Thanks, Alice.I sent an email yesterday asking some questions, including about analysis. If I don't hear back soon, I'll call.Judy>>>>>>>>> From: Yard Bird <yardbirdmail@...>>>>>>> <http://uk.mc276.mail./mc/compose?to=yardbirdmail@...>>>> Subject: Re: Swanson's Mag oil>>> iodine >>>>>>

<http://uk.mc276.mail./mc/compose?to=iodine >>>> Date: Tuesday, August 17, 2010, 4:53 PM>>>>>> Works great for me:)>>>>>>>>> Bethann>>>> I'm wanting to hear any input any of you may have about the>>>> magnesium oil that Swanson's has. It says it is from the>>>> same deposits the Ancient Minerals is from.>>>> I don't think I can handle the $$$$ on the Ancient Minerals,>>>> but would like to try major use of mag oil.>>>> So, if anyone has experience with it or further info, please>>>> let me hear.>>>> Thanks much,>>>> Judy>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

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and Gail,

Thank you, i appreciate your input. . . I'm going to order some mg. flakes from

Swanson's. I'm fascinated with this idea of accessing inexpensive, healthcare

products.

Greg

> >Aside from applying a saturated solution of Epson Salts on the skin, does

> >anyone know how to make authentic Magnesium Oil?

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> >Grge

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> ~~~ There is no way to peace; peace is the way ~~~~

> --A.J. Muste

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this does not compute for me. have you been on the site

http://www.breastcancerchoices.org ? there is a forum to ask questions

there.

Gracia

Eileen wrote:

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> This is of some concern to me... my integration specialist is pretty

> intense in his wanting me NOT to take DHEA or raise my levels, as he

> has had two breast cancer patients who have experienced a huge upgrade

> in speed of progression after taking it. Would the Epsom salt version

> avoid raising the DHEA levels, but still help raise magnesium levels

> and help aching muscles? I'm having a lot of muscle spasms and

> referred pain from mets in hips...

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> ~Eileen

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> > Transdermal magnesium chloride also was proven to raise DHEA levels

> but this effect was not realized when using other forms and

> applications of magnesium, including magnesium sulfate (epsom salts).

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/ I use it everyday with no problem. I would never wash it off b/c it is

too expensive, but it is never noticeable.

Gracia

/Nonie wrote:

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> I have Ancient Minerals and it doesn't absorb very well at all on me,

> leaving a very sticky feeling. i don't use it often because of this.

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> Nonie

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[Guest guest]

That darned sticky feeling..easily remedied...just dilute 50/50 with spring water, and you have a non sticky mineral application Bingo

jane

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Do you have watercres in the US It is very high in calcium. So cheaper and better than tablets.

david.

From: gnomen2 <gnomen2@...>Subject: Re: Swanson's Mag oiliodine Date: Wednesday, 18 August, 2010, 16:19

and Gail,Thank you, i appreciate your input. . . I'm going to order some mg. flakes from Swanson's. I'm fascinated with this idea of accessing inexpensive, healthcare products. Greg > >Aside from applying a saturated solution of Epson Salts on the skin, does > >anyone know how to make authentic Magnesium Oil?> >> >Grge> > > ~~~ There is no way to peace; peace is the way ~~~~> --A.J.

Muste>

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Yeah, no kidding, Greg. I could not have health without seeking

inexpensive alternatives.

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> and Gail,

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>Thank you, i appreciate your input. . . I'm going to order some mg. flakes

>from Swanson's. I'm fascinated with this idea of accessing inexpensive,

>healthcare products.

>

>Greg

~~~ There is no way to peace; peace is the way ~~~~

--A.J. Muste

[Guest guest]

Mag citrate, is just a normal mag. suppliment, highly absorbable in comparison

to others. I take it in pill form for my muscle pain in higher doses. Up to 1100

mcg per day in hot weather along with potassium dose forcing met to go that

high. Potassium must antagonize and pull more of it out of the body easier.

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> Has anyone ever used magnesium citrate, the liquid in the bottle that often is

sold to clean out your gut? Years ago an alternative MD highly recommended this,

and I had used it for years. It is very inexpensive for a little over a buck for

16 oz. They usually sell it where they carry other over the counter supplies for

digestive problems. You're suppose to take an ounce a day and it tastes

somewhat like 7-up. The citrate form makes the magnesium easier for the body to

utilize.

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Eileen,

Sound's like you are suffering and your body needs magnesium, so it's probably

getting lots of other damage without it. What's true for one patient is never

necessarily true for another body. It depends upon how you ate and treated it

over an entire lifetime and that is unique and will likely produce a unique

outcome.

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> > Transdermal magnesium chloride also was proven to raise DHEA levels but this

effect was not realized when using other forms and applications of magnesium,

including magnesium sulfate (epsom salts).

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[Guest guest]

so say a 500mg tablet what amount of elemental magnesium is available in the body.

From: light <lauralight1972@...>Subject: Re: Swanson's Mag oiliodine Date: Wednesday, 18 August, 2010, 19:33

Mag citrate, is just a normal mag. suppliment, highly absorbable in comparison to others. I take it in pill form for my muscle pain in higher doses. Up to 1100 mcg per day in hot weather along with potassium dose forcing met to go that high. Potassium must antagonize and pull more of it out of the body easier.>> > Has anyone ever used magnesium citrate, the liquid in the bottle that often is sold to clean out your gut? Years ago an alternative MD highly recommended this, and I had used it for years. It is very inexpensive for a little over a buck for 16 oz. They usually sell it where they carry other over the counter supplies for digestive problems. You're suppose to take an ounce a day and it tastes

somewhat like 7-up. The citrate form makes the magnesium easier for the body to utilize.> >>

[Guest guest]

Well also of interest (for anyone here with cushings disease/overactive adrenals) is that a magnesium deficiency will contribute to the problem of higher sodium/lower potassium levels.

Gail

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I'm not familiar with elemental numbers and magnesium.

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> > Has anyone ever used magnesium citrate, the liquid in the bottle that often

is sold to clean out your gut? Years ago an alternative MD highly recommended

this, and I had used it for years. It is very inexpensive for a little over a

buck for 16 oz. They usually sell it where they carry other over the counter

supplies for digestive problems. You're suppose to take an ounce a day and it

tastes somewhat like 7-up. The citrate form makes the magnesium easier for the

body to utilize.

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Hi laura,

Magensium comes in many forms. What the body uses is elemental magnesiumso if you have a tablet with 500mg of magesium oxide. it may contain on 300 mg

of elemental magnesium. But in addition magnesium oxide is very badly absorbed

by the body only 4%.

many people are under the impression that 5oomg of oxide and they are getting

their full daily allowance or RDA. They are not at best they are getting 12mg of elemental magnesium.

Carolyn Dean MD has written an excellent book on magnesium called the Magensium Miracle. where she details what magnesium is, what is the best type for what condition

for example its good as laxative or as a relaxant.

But it is vital because it is part of some 300 chemical reactions in the body. So its vital to get your daily allowance at least.

It is also contained in many foods, just google fooods with magnesium in and you will get a

list.

From: light <lauralight1972@...>Subject: Re: Swanson's Mag oiliodine Date: Thursday, 19 August, 2010, 19:28

,I'm not familiar with elemental numbers and magnesium.> >> > > > Has anyone ever used magnesium citrate, the liquid in the bottle that often is sold to clean out your gut? Years ago an alternative MD highly recommended this, and I had used it for years. It is very inexpensive for a little over a buck for 16 oz. They usually sell it where they carry other over the counter supplies for digestive problems. You're suppose to take an ounce a day and it tastes

somewhat like 7-up. The citrate form makes the magnesium easier for the body to utilize.> > >> >>

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all I know is I take upwards of 900mcg of citrate daily to manage muscle

pain and know oxide doesnt' absorb well. I don't understand the whole math with

elemental thing. Sorry you lose me there. I'm happy with citrate that I take

orally. You can do the math as to how much elemtal that equals.

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> > > Has anyone ever used magnesium citrate, the liquid in the bottle that

often is sold to clean out your gut? Years ago an alternative MD highly

recommended this, and I had used it for years. It is very inexpensive for a

little over a buck for 16 oz. They usually sell it where they carry other over

the counter supplies for digestive problems. You're suppose to take an ounce a

day and it tastes somewhat like 7-up. The citrate form makes the magnesium

easier for the body to utilize.

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