RE: Re: Can iodine cause hyperthyroid symptoms?

[Guest guest]

The 50 mg was not so high a dose. Did you take the companion

nutrients with it? Did you to salt loading with the problems? Sounds like you

were detoxing. Did you read about detoxing while taking iodine? Did you take

magnesium?

Iodine wouldn’t cause thyroid problems, it is used in both

hypo and hyper for healing. Have you tested for adrenal problems? And when the

endo said levels were normal, what tests did he do and what were the actual

levels? What often falls into the “normal” range is not what you

actually feel good at. The iodine doctors have been thinking 25mg is needed for

maintanence dose, but now are looking at 50 instead.

Donna in IL

Marcella,

It sounds like with normal thyroid levels at the beginning there was no need

for you to ever go as high as you did which was like a theraputic level. I am

doing what was suggested on many sites and starting low on iodine and working

my way up. You simply made a mistake that you suffered for. You can quit

beating yourself up for it. You'll likely recover fully from what I've read.

And a maintainance dosage may be very small, like 3 mg or so. Why did you even

start such a dose with it sounds like no major health issues to needing to be

treated in general? Did someone give you misinformation?

>

> I started taking iodine last year, up to 50 mg a day, and initially felt

great. Then I went rapidly downhill. I developed constant PVC's and tachycardia,

severe anxiety, insomnia, shakes and tremors and diarrhea. swollen lymph glands

in my neck and high blood pressure. I thought for the longest time it was just

severe anxiety or even adrenal issues. But after doing some recent reading on

hypo and hyperthyroidism it sounds an awful lot like hyperthyroidism. This

" attack " of sorts happened last July. It's taken me many months to

get better. A long convoluted road. I saw an endo in March, while pregnant, and

according to him my levels were all normal.

>

> I however think it's possible I still have some thyroid problems. But what

I wonder is if taking iodine could have precipitated this? That was the only

thing I'd changed in my life at the time. Iodine and some vitamins and minerals

recommended to take with it. I do have a slightly swollen thyroid gland. I can

feel it in my throat. I've noticed it for over a year though Dr's seem

nonplussed. I'd thought it was just scar tissue from a parathyroidectomy 3.5

yrs ago. But it was only when looking at a website today that I realized that

it's not shaped like my scar so that doesn't really make sense and while I'm

fat why would I have this slight pad of fat right there. It's shaped like my

thyroid and right where my thyroid is. I thought I was just a basketcase last

year but now I'm wondering if that was my thyroid.

>

> Marcella

>

[Guest guest]

The advice posted below is not consistent with what we practice here as the

iodine protocol. 50mg is not considered a high dose and 25mg or 50mg or

even more may be a maintenance dose for most.

Taking 50mg a day in order to saturate the body with iodine is considered

very normal here. So suggesting that Marcella made a mistake by taking

50mg/day is really not consistent what we know here. The knowledge we're

working with is the cutting edge, it's not misinformation as seems to be

suggested. In addition, many people start right out with 50mg or more,

others work slowly upward. There is no one correct way.

Marcella, Donna's questions are the pertinent ones. It does really sound

like you were detoxing and that you could still be in need of bromide

removal. Did you do the salt loading in response to your symptoms? Are

you taking any iodine at all right now?

While going slowly is not the way that everyone does it, going slowly does

help a person feel their way through the detoxing a little more easily. I

started detoxing hard at 75 mg/day, so have kept mine at 50mg because I'm

just not organized in my life to deal with the detox yet. Usually what is

suggested when encountering severe detox is to back off to a level that

doesn't cause it, stay steady there for a while and work on improving one's

detox pathways in the body, then try increasing, slowly.

--

>Marcella,

>

>It sounds like with normal thyroid levels at the beginning there was no

>need for you to ever go as high as you did which was like a theraputic

>level. I am doing what was suggested on many sites and starting low on

>iodine and working my way up. You simply made a mistake that you suffered

>for. You can quit beating yourself up for it. You'll likely recover fully

>from what I've read. And a maintainance dosage may be very small, like 3

>mg or so. Why did you even start such a dose with it sounds like no major

>health issues to needing to be treated in general? Did someone give you

>misinformation?

>

>

>

>

> >

> > I started taking iodine last year, up to 50 mg a day, and initially

> felt great. Then I went rapidly downhill. I developed constant PVC's and

> tachycardia, severe anxiety, insomnia, shakes and tremors and diarrhea.

> swollen lymph glands in my neck and high blood pressure. I thought for

> the longest time it was just severe anxiety or even adrenal issues. But

> after doing some recent reading on hypo and hyperthyroidism it sounds an

> awful lot like hyperthyroidism. This " attack " of sorts happened last

> July. It's taken me many months to get better. A long convoluted road. I

> saw an endo in March, while pregnant, and according to him my levels were

> all normal.

> >

> > I however think it's possible I still have some thyroid problems. But

> what I wonder is if taking iodine could have precipitated this? That was

> the only thing I'd changed in my life at the time. Iodine and some

> vitamins and minerals recommended to take with it. I do have a slightly

> swollen thyroid gland. I can feel it in my throat. I've noticed it for

> over a year though Dr's seem nonplussed. I'd thought it was just scar

> tissue from a parathyroidectomy 3.5 yrs ago. But it was only when looking

> at a website today that I realized that it's not shaped like my scar so

> that doesn't really make sense and while I'm fat why would I have this

> slight pad of fat right there. It's shaped like my thyroid and right

> where my thyroid is. I thought I was just a basketcase last year but now

> I'm wondering if that was my thyroid.

> >

> > Marcella

~~~ There is no way to peace; peace is the way ~~~~

--A.J. Muste

[Guest guest]

I felt very unwell on less than 50mg Iodoral. eventually I went to

100mg which is where I am now.

Gracia

light wrote:

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>

> Can't we take like 40mg's and detox at a slower pace or something? or

> pulse from 30 to 50 up and down maybe?

>

[Guest guest]

Yes.  I usually take 25 mg because I didn't like the detox at 50mg.~WOn Tue, Jul 27, 2010 at 6:39 AM, light <lauralight1972@...> wrote:

 

Can't we take like 40mg's and detox at a slower pace or something? or pulse from 30 to 50 up and down maybe?

> > >

> > > I started taking iodine last year, up to 50 mg a day, and initially

> > felt great. Then I went rapidly downhill. I developed constant PVC's and

> > tachycardia, severe anxiety, insomnia, shakes and tremors and diarrhea.

> > swollen lymph glands in my neck and high blood pressure. I thought for

> > the longest time it was just severe anxiety or even adrenal issues. But

> > after doing some recent reading on hypo and hyperthyroidism it sounds an

> > awful lot like hyperthyroidism. This " attack " of sorts happened last

> > July. It's taken me many months to get better. A long convoluted road. I

> > saw an endo in March, while pregnant, and according to him my levels were

> > all normal.

> > >

> > > I however think it's possible I still have some thyroid problems. But

> > what I wonder is if taking iodine could have precipitated this? That was

> > the only thing I'd changed in my life at the time. Iodine and some

> > vitamins and minerals recommended to take with it. I do have a slightly

> > swollen thyroid gland. I can feel it in my throat. I've noticed it for

> > over a year though Dr's seem nonplussed. I'd thought it was just scar

> > tissue from a parathyroidectomy 3.5 yrs ago. But it was only when looking

> > at a website today that I realized that it's not shaped like my scar so

> > that doesn't really make sense and while I'm fat why would I have this

> > slight pad of fat right there. It's shaped like my thyroid and right

> > where my thyroid is. I thought I was just a basketcase last year but now

> > I'm wondering if that was my thyroid.

> > >

> > > Marcella

>

>

> ~~~ There is no way to peace; peace is the way ~~~~

> --A.J. Muste

>

[Guest guest]

Yes, , absolutely. Many people do. The only thing I was correcting

was the perception that 50mg was 1) a large dose and 2) too high to

start. Yes, the safest easiest way to start iodine is to start slower,

but, for people with life threatening diseases such as cancer, the detox is

essential to their survival, so many of them will just start at 100mg, move

swiftly to 200mg/day, and do whatever they have to to get through the detox.

We actually do have several experts in detoxing here on the list, we have

quite a number of licensed health practitioners who have been very generous

with their advice. You can probably find some of those postings in the

archives. If you search for Dr Lanphier (plus " Lanphier " into the

search box at the " messenges " page on the group's website), she has

repeatedly shared info on detoxing. or search the archives for " detox " or

" detoxification " and see what's there, then ask questions that come up for

you. Dr Lanphier also does consulting so if anyone wants one-on-one help I

know she is there. There are also other providers here on the list but Dr

L is the one I'm remembering offhand.

--

At 05:39 AM 7/27/2010, you wrote:

>Can't we take like 40mg's and detox at a slower pace or something? or

>pulse from 30 to 50 up and down maybe?

>

>

> > > >

> > > > I started taking iodine last year, up to 50 mg a day, and initially

> > > felt great. Then I went rapidly downhill. I developed constant PVC's and

> > > tachycardia, severe anxiety, insomnia, shakes and tremors and diarrhea.

> > > swollen lymph glands in my neck and high blood pressure. I thought for

> > > the longest time it was just severe anxiety or even adrenal issues. But

> > > after doing some recent reading on hypo and hyperthyroidism it sounds an

> > > awful lot like hyperthyroidism. This " attack " of sorts happened last

> > > July. It's taken me many months to get better. A long convoluted road. I

> > > saw an endo in March, while pregnant, and according to him my levels

> were

> > > all normal.

> > > >

> > > > I however think it's possible I still have some thyroid problems. But

> > > what I wonder is if taking iodine could have precipitated this? That was

> > > the only thing I'd changed in my life at the time. Iodine and some

> > > vitamins and minerals recommended to take with it. I do have a slightly

> > > swollen thyroid gland. I can feel it in my throat. I've noticed it for

> > > over a year though Dr's seem nonplussed. I'd thought it was just scar

> > > tissue from a parathyroidectomy 3.5 yrs ago. But it was only when

> looking

> > > at a website today that I realized that it's not shaped like my scar so

> > > that doesn't really make sense and while I'm fat why would I have this

> > > slight pad of fat right there. It's shaped like my thyroid and right

> > > where my thyroid is. I thought I was just a basketcase last year but now

> > > I'm wondering if that was my thyroid.

> > > >

> > > > Marcella

> >

> >

> > ~~~ There is no way to peace; peace is the way ~~~~

> > --A.J. Muste

> >

>

>

>

>

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[Guest guest]

do you take companion nutrients and ATP cofactors? I also needed DMG

complete from http://www.purezenhealth.com

Gracia

wendy 56789 wrote:

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> Yes. I usually take 25 mg because I didn't like the detox at 50mg.

>

> ~W

>

> On Tue, Jul 27, 2010 at 6:39 AM, light <lauralight1972@...

> <mailto:lauralight1972@...>> wrote:

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>

>

> Can't we take like 40mg's and detox at a slower pace or something?

> or pulse from 30 to 50 up and down maybe?

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

I do, but they don't eliminate the detox effects for me.  I didn't get toxic overnight, so there's no need for me to detox too fast either.~WOn Wed, Jul 28, 2010 at 9:30 AM, Gracia <circe@...> wrote:

do you take companion nutrients and ATP cofactors?   I also needed DMG

complete from http://www.purezenhealth.com

Gracia

wendy 56789 wrote:

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>

> Yes.  I usually take 25 mg because I didn't like the detox at 50mg.

>

> ~W

>

> On Tue, Jul 27, 2010 at 6:39 AM, light <lauralight1972@...

> <mailto:lauralight1972@...>> wrote:

>

>

>

>     Can't we take like 40mg's and detox at a slower pace or something?

>     or pulse from 30 to 50 up and down maybe?

>

>

>

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[Guest guest]

hmmm

maybe youshould try more, not less. 100mg Iodoral works best for me.

Gracia

wendy 56789 wrote:

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>

> I do, but they don't eliminate the detox effects for me. I didn't get

> toxic overnight, so there's no need for me to detox too fast either.

>

> ~W

>

> On Wed, Jul 28, 2010 at 9:30 AM, Gracia <circe@...

> <mailto:circe@...>> wrote:

>

> do you take companion nutrients and ATP cofactors? I also needed DMG

> complete from http://www.purezenhealth.com

> <http://www.purezenhealth.com>

> Gracia

>

>

> wendy 56789 wrote:

> >

> >

> > Yes. I usually take 25 mg because I didn't like the detox at 50mg.

> >

> > ~W

> >

>

[Guest guest]

I agree . Pushing harder and faster will only create more issues. Pay attention to your body. When you feel overloaded, back off and support your detox pathways. Then start back up again.

Re: Re: Can iodine cause hyperthyroid symptoms?

hmmmmaybe youshould try more, not less. 100mg Iodoral works best for me.Graciawendy 56789 wrote:> >> I do, but they don't eliminate the detox effects for me. I didn't get > toxic overnight, so there's no need for me to detox too fast either.>> ~W>> On Wed, Jul 28, 2010 at 9:30 AM, Gracia <circe@... > <mailto:circe@...>> wrote:>> do you take companion nutrients and ATP cofactors? I also needed DMG> complete from http://www.purezenhealth.com> <http://www.purezenhealth.com>> Gracia>>> wendy 56789 wrote:> >> >> > Yes. I usually take 25 mg because I didn't like the detox at 50mg.> >> > ~W> >>

[Guest guest]

the " major detox " symptoms are more bearable to me than being unwell. I

am 62yo and have been hypoT my whole life, had a partial thyroidectomy

at age 22 and then no meds until I got a tiny bit of Armour at age 51.

actually that is untrue. I went to Broda MD himself at age 30 and

he gave me some Armour but I felt poorly on it and didn't go back ((

too bad I didn't have the internet back then. in any case I felt better

on 100mg Iodoral.

I think there are effective ways to deal with detox symptoms, like salt

and vitamin C. right now I need B-12 shots and iron--am trying to work

with a brand new ND who shocks me b/c she is ignorant! she knows nothing

about iodine or even iron! my other doc/MD who Rxes my hormones would

give me ativan but not B-12 shots. ignorant.

gracia

light wrote:

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> Didn't you go through a major detox time then?

>

>

> > >

> > >

> > > Can't we take like 40mg's and detox at a slower pace or something? or

> > > pulse from 30 to 50 up and down maybe?

> > >

> >

>

>

[Guest guest]

I have felt so much worse when I take less than 100mg. why is that?

gracia

ladybugsandbees wrote:

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>

> I agree . Pushing harder and faster will only create more

> issues. Pay attention to your body. When you feel overloaded, back

> off and support your detox pathways. Then start back up again.

>

>

>

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> * Re: Re: Can iodine cause hyperthyroid symptoms?

>

>

>

> hmmm

> maybe youshould try more, not less. 100mg Iodoral works best for me.

> Gracia

>

[Guest guest]

There are no rules. Everyone is different. You may feel different and then you may not. I didn't feel it until I went to 100 mgs - started at 50mgs.

Some feel detox the day they take it. Others don't feel it until much later. For me it was 7 days.

Sorry I can't give you an idea of what you may be in for. You just need to jump in and see how it goes.

Steph

Re: Can iodine cause hyperthyroid symptoms?

If I wanted to up my Iodoral, am I going to notice something in a few days, weeks, or months......??

Question on detox symptoms: how soon after you up a dosage do you experience possible negative/positive symptoms?? I'm thinking it would help to know at least a basic time frame, like thyroid meds....

Blessings, MargaretGreat men are they who see that spirituality is stronger than any material force; That thoughts rule the world. Ralph Waldo Emerson

[Guest guest]

I had many strange symptoms when I first started on 50mg Iodoral, but

they were not so bad that I couldn't stand it. I thought it was

interesting that the iodine was actually doing something--it was a

supplement but seemed to work like a medicine. at first I felt like all

my cells were going crazy--I felt like Jim Carrey in The Mask. but

that passed quickly.

gracia

margretdzn@... wrote:

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> */ If I wanted to up my Iodoral, am I going to notice something in a

> few days, weeks, or months......??/*

> */Question on detox symptoms: how soon after you up a dosage do you

> experience possible negative/positive symptoms?? I'm thinking it would

> help to know at least a basic time frame, like thyroid meds..../*

> *//*

> *//*

> *Blessings, Margaret**

> /Great men are they who see that spirituality

> is stronger than any material force;

> That thoughts rule the world.

> Ralph Waldo Emerson /*

>

>