Guest guest Posted August 24, 2010 Report Share Posted August 24, 2010 Yes, I was confused by this discussion because I had remembered it was the sodium that binds to bromide. -- At 09:51 PM 8/24/2010, you wrote: >I asked the question that keeps coming up as to why salt is needed / works >for bromide release. > > >1. Chloride and bromide are both halides and compete with each other >2. Chloride can push bromide out and visa versa >3. Sodium binds to bromide and carries it out > >I got mixed up and thought the chloride was binding - it's the sodium. > > > ~~~ There is no way to peace; peace is the way ~~~~ --A.J. Muste Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 24, 2010 Report Share Posted August 24, 2010 Too much data in my head. Re: Asked an Iodine doc - Salt / Bromide question Yes, I was confused by this discussion because I had remembered it was the sodium that binds to bromide.--At 09:51 PM 8/24/2010, you wrote:>I asked the question that keeps coming up as to why salt is needed / works >for bromide release.>>>1. Chloride and bromide are both halides and compete with each other>2. Chloride can push bromide out and visa versa>3. Sodium binds to bromide and carries it out>>I got mixed up and thought the chloride was binding - it's the sodium.>>>~~~ There is no way to peace; peace is the way ~~~~--A.J. Muste Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 24, 2010 Report Share Posted August 24, 2010 Understandable! At 10:21 PM 8/24/2010, you wrote: >Too much data in my head. > > > Re: Asked an Iodine doc - Salt / Bromide question > > > > >Yes, I was confused by this discussion because I had remembered it was the >sodium that binds to bromide. > >-- > >At 09:51 PM 8/24/2010, you wrote: > > >I asked the question that keeps coming up as to why salt is needed / works > >for bromide release. > > > > > >1. Chloride and bromide are both halides and compete with each other > >2. Chloride can push bromide out and visa versa > >3. Sodium binds to bromide and carries it out > > > >I got mixed up and thought the chloride was binding - it's the sodium. > > > > > > > >~~~ There is no way to peace; peace is the way ~~~~ >--A.J. Muste > > > > > >No virus found in this incoming message. >Checked by AVG - www.avg.com >Version: 9.0.851 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/3092 - Release Date: 08/24/10 >10:31:00 > ~~~ There is no way to peace; peace is the way ~~~~ --A.J. Muste Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 25, 2010 Report Share Posted August 25, 2010 I'm curious as to why normal salt use won't continue tohelp you push bromide out? Or is it just minimally effective? > > I asked the question that keeps coming up as to why salt is needed / works for bromide release. > > > 1. Chloride and bromide are both halides and compete with each other > 2. Chloride can push bromide out and visa versa > 3. Sodium binds to bromide and carries it out > > I got mixed up and thought the chloride was binding - it's the sodium. > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 25, 2010 Report Share Posted August 25, 2010 "Normal" or refined salt is devoid of nutrients. Unrefined has over 80 trace elements (at least Celtic does) and that helps to balance your system. Refined salt is cleaned with a toxic chloride brine that is very bad for you. This is from an interview Dr. Brownstein. What is the difference between refined and unrefined salt? Greg, nobody makes a distinction between unrefined and refined salt. They ‘lump’ all salt together as a bad substance. This is a terrible mistake. There is too much misinformation about salt in the media, so let me set the record straight. It is difficult for the consumer to choose the right form of salt. I will try and make it easy. There are two forms of salt available in the market place; refined and unrefined salt. Refined salt has had its minerals removed and has been bleached to give it the white appearance that we are accustomed to seeing with salt. It is the fine, white salt that is available at almost any restaurant or grocery store. Refined salt has been bleached and exposed to many toxic chemicals in order to get it to its final product. It has aluminum, ferrocyanide and bleach in it. I believe this refining process has made it a toxic, devitalized substance that needs to be avoided. Unrefined salt, on the other hand has not been put through a harsh chemical process. It contains the natural minerals that was originally part of the product. The mineral content of it gives it a distinct color. The colors of unrefined salt can vary depending on where it is taken from. This is due to the changing mineral content of the various brands of salt. It is the minerals in unrefined salt that provides all the benefits of this product. The minerals supply the body with over 80 trace elements needed to maintain and sustain health. Furthermore, the minerals elevate the pH (correct acidity) and lower blood pressure. Our maker gave us salt to use in our diet—unrefined salt—with its’ full complement of minerals. It should be the salt of choice. It is a vital ingredient that needs to be part of everyone’s diet. My experience has clearly shown that a diet devoid of unrefined salt will make it nearly impossible to achieve your optimal health. Re: Asked an Iodine doc - Salt / Bromide question I'm curious as to why normal salt use won't continue tohelp you push bromide out? Or is it just minimally effective?>> I asked the question that keeps coming up as to why salt is needed / works for bromide release.> > > 1. Chloride and bromide are both halides and compete with each other> 2. Chloride can push bromide out and visa versa> 3. Sodium binds to bromide and carries it out > > I got mixed up and thought the chloride was binding - it's the sodium.> > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 25, 2010 Report Share Posted August 25, 2010 -- You should not be using any refined salt, for your health. The use of unrefined salt in the iodine protocol is as much for building health as it is washing out the bromide-- even if you weren't taking iodine it's still important to use unrefined salt everyday. Did you read that link I posted about unrefined salt? No one who values their health should willingly eat white refined salt. That is indeed the stuff that throws off the body's mineral balance and does cause heart disease and other problems. Unrefined salt, on the other hand, is as necessary to human life as water or air. Seriously. That's part of why there is all this chronic disease in Western societies, is the use of refined salt. Many of these diseases are mineral-imbalance issues. Here's the link again. This information is trustworthy and has been validated by many other sources. This is just an easy way to get a lot of info, and they aren't selling any products. http://curezone.com/foods/saltcure.asp -- At 07:43 AM 8/25/2010, you wrote: >I'm curious as to why normal salt use won't continue tohelp you push >bromide out? Or is it just minimally effective? > > > > > > I asked the question that keeps coming up as to why salt is needed / > works for bromide release. > > > > > > 1. Chloride and bromide are both halides and compete with each other > > 2. Chloride can push bromide out and visa versa > > 3. Sodium binds to bromide and carries it out > > > > I got mixed up and thought the chloride was binding - it's the sodium. > > > > > > > > ~~~ There is no way to peace; peace is the way ~~~~ --A.J. Muste Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 26, 2010 Report Share Posted August 26, 2010 Why don't I see " un-refined " salt on shevles, is it the asme as " sea salt? " They don't use that word where I've shopped to describe salt, is this going to be something else I have to buy online if I want? > > > > I asked the question that keeps coming up as to why salt is needed / works for bromide release. > > > > > > 1. Chloride and bromide are both halides and compete with each other > > 2. Chloride can push bromide out and visa versa > > 3. Sodium binds to bromide and carries it out > > > > I got mixed up and thought the chloride was binding - it's the sodium. > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 26, 2010 Report Share Posted August 26, 2010 Sea salt is typically unrefined. there are many types/brands of sea salt and it can come from many geographic locations -- France, USA, Himalayan moutains. You can get Celtic (France), Himalayan, RealSalt (Utah), Hawaiian... They are each unique with varying mineral content. You can probably get it at your local health food store or whole foods type market. Or - online... hth Kendra On Thu, Aug 26, 2010 at 2:37 AM, light <lauralight1972@...> wrote: > > Why don't I see " un-refined " salt on shevles, is it the asme as " sea  salt? " They don't use that word where I've shopped to describe salt, is this going to be something else I have to buy online if I want? > > > >> >> " Normal " or refined salt is devoid of nutrients.  Unrefined has over 80 trace elements (at least Celtic does) and that helps to balance your system.  Refined salt is cleaned with a toxic chloride brine that is very bad for you. >> >> This is from an interview Dr. Brownstein. >> >> What is the difference between refined and unrefined salt? >> Greg, nobody makes a distinction between unrefined and refined salt.  They 'lump' all salt together as a bad substance.  This is a terrible mistake.  There is too much misinformation about salt in the media, so let me set the record straight.  It is difficult for the consumer to choose the right form of salt.  I will try and make it easy. There are two forms of salt available in the market place; refined and unrefined salt. >> >> Refined salt has had its minerals removed and has been bleached to give it the white appearance that we are accustomed to seeing with salt.  It is the fine, white salt that is available at almost any restaurant or grocery store.  Refined salt has been bleached and exposed to many toxic chemicals in order to get it to its final product.   It has aluminum, ferrocyanide and bleach in it.  I believe this refining process has made it a toxic, devitalized substance that needs to be avoided. >> >> Unrefined salt, on the other hand has not been put through a harsh chemical process.  It contains the natural minerals that was originally part of the product.  The mineral content of it gives it a distinct color.  The colors of unrefined salt can vary depending on where it is taken from.  This is due to the changing mineral content of the various brands of salt.  It is the minerals in unrefined salt that provides all the benefits of this product.  The minerals supply the body with over 80 trace elements needed to maintain and sustain health.  Furthermore, the minerals elevate the pH (correct acidity) and lower blood pressure.  Our maker gave us salt to use in our diet-unrefined salt-with its' full complement of minerals.  It should be the salt of choice. It is a vital ingredient that needs to be part of everyone's diet. >> My experience has clearly shown that a diet devoid of unrefined salt will make it nearly impossible to achieve your optimal health. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 26, 2010 Report Share Posted August 26, 2010 There is a ton of info. comming across ont his site. I have looked at some. I'm looking up salt purification processes and it sounds so harmless,I can see minerals are removed but nowhere is the site I see saying they add bleach or anything exactly to it. I may switch to sea salt if it's not that expensive in comparison. > > > > > > I asked the question that keeps coming up as to why salt is needed / > > works for bromide release. > > > > > > > > > 1. Chloride and bromide are both halides and compete with each other > > > 2. Chloride can push bromide out and visa versa > > > 3. Sodium binds to bromide and carries it out > > > > > > I got mixed up and thought the chloride was binding - it's the sodium. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ~~~ There is no way to peace; peace is the way ~~~~ > --A.J. Muste > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 26, 2010 Report Share Posted August 26, 2010 You do need to read the label and make sure it says " whole salt " or " unrefined " . The label of " sea salt " doesn't always mean unrefined, so you do need to read the label. if it doesn't say either " whole " or " unrefined " or " contains all the original minerals " , then it shouldn't be trusted as unrefined salt. A couple of names for unrefined salt are Celtic Sea Salt and Redmond's Real Salt. The reason the term " sea salt " doesn't always mean unrefined, is because for a long time the term " sea salt " only meant that it didn't have additives like dextrose or iodine. It was still bleached and often heat treated. Until about 20 years ago, they had made it illegal for unrefined salt to be sold for human consumption in the United States, until some people worked to get the rules changed. The reason those laws went into place was because when salt first started being refined, it was a " value-added " product, which meant it required processing and they could charge more, so the manufacturers got laws passed so that everyone was forced to buy their products. These are the historical facts. Now, of course, to get unrefined salt costs more than refined, the situation has reversed itself. I'm just glad it's legal to have healthy salt again. -- >Why don't I see " un-refined " salt on shevles, is it the asme as > " sea salt? " They don't use that word where I've shopped to describe salt, >is this going to be something else I have to buy online if I want? > > > > > > > > > I asked the question that keeps coming up as to why salt is needed > / works for bromide release. > > > > > > > > > 1. Chloride and bromide are both halides and compete with each other > > > 2. Chloride can push bromide out and visa versa > > > 3. Sodium binds to bromide and carries it out > > > > > > I got mixed up and thought the chloride was binding - it's the sodium. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >------------------------------------ > >All off topic posts should go to the IodineOT >group IodineOT/ > > >Commonly asked questions: http://tinyurl.com/yhnds5e Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 26, 2010 Report Share Posted August 26, 2010 Unrefined salt is more expensive than cheap white salt. The brand called Real Salt is the least expensive, it is mined from an ancient seabed in Utah. It is an excellent nutritional investment, but a person doesn't use that much so it's not like it's brutally expensive to use it. You said, " sounds so harmless " ... White refined salt is bleached, it is also heat-treated to make it bright and sparkly-- that heat treatment makes the salt even more unhealthy-- it changes the chemical structure. The bleaching removes the mineral profile from the crystals, so then it is mostly sodium, which is not the correct mineral balance for the body, which is why refined salt causes illness. It might seem like a small thing to have such huge ramifications for health, but them's the facts. Minerals are more important to the body than vitamins, because without the proper mineral balance a person cannot utilize vitamins. This information is certainly common knowledge in health circles. I believe I mentioned the other day that 's Soup Company is now using unrefined salt, because they realized it's better for people. A 's rep was on one of the morning news shows discussing it, and I've looked at their labels and it's true. It's your choice, but this list and the iodine protocol require it, so we give the correct information here on unrefined salt. -- At 02:10 AM 8/26/2010, you wrote: >There is a ton of info. comming across ont his site. I have looked at >some. I'm looking up salt purification processes and it sounds so >harmless,I can see minerals are removed but nowhere is the site I see >saying they add bleach or anything exactly to it. >I may switch to sea salt if it's not that expensive in comparison. > > > > > > > -- You should not be using any refined salt, for your health. The use > > of unrefined salt in the iodine protocol is as much for building health as > > it is washing out the bromide-- even if you weren't taking iodine it's > > still important to use unrefined salt everyday. Did you read that link I > > posted about unrefined salt? No one who values their health should > > willingly eat white refined salt. That is indeed the stuff that throws off > > the body's mineral balance and does cause heart disease and other > problems. > > Unrefined salt, on the other hand, is as necessary to human life as water > > or air. Seriously. That's part of why there is all this chronic disease > > in Western societies, is the use of refined salt. Many of these diseases > > are mineral-imbalance issues. > > > > Here's the link again. This information is trustworthy and has been > > validated by many other sources. This is just an easy way to get a lot of > > info, and they aren't selling any products. > > > > http://curezone.com/foods/saltcure.asp > > > > -- ~~~ There is no way to peace; peace is the way ~~~~ --A.J. Muste Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 26, 2010 Report Share Posted August 26, 2010 Look for it at a health food store like Whole Foods or Earth Fare. I bought Redmond Real Salt. It also comes in seasoning flavors: onion salt, garlic salt ad zesty season salt.SueFrom: light <lauralight1972@...>Subject: Re: Asked an Iodine doc - Salt / Bromide questioniodine Date: Thursday, August 26, 2010, 2:37 AM Why don't I see "un-refined" salt on shevles, is it the asme as "sea salt?" They don't use that word where I've shopped to describe salt, is this going to be something else I have to buy online if I want? > > > > I asked the question that keeps coming up as to why salt is needed / works for bromide release. > > > > > > 1. Chloride and bromide are both halides and compete with each other > > 2. Chloride can push bromide out and visa versa > > 3. Sodium binds to bromide and carries it out > > > > I got mixed up and thought the chloride was binding - it's the sodium. > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 26, 2010 Report Share Posted August 26, 2010 The websites I saw made it sound like some of the things refined out are done so to protect our health because they themselves are dangerous naturally occuring in salt??? > >> > >> " Normal " or refined salt is devoid of nutrients. Â Unrefined has over 80 trace elements (at least Celtic does) and that helps to balance your system. Â Refined salt is cleaned with a toxic chloride brine that is very bad for you. > >> > >> This is from an interview Dr. Brownstein. > >> > >> What is the difference between refined and unrefined salt? > >> Greg, nobody makes a distinction between unrefined and refined salt. Â They 'lump' all salt together as a bad substance. Â This is a terrible mistake. Â There is too much misinformation about salt in the media, so let me set the record straight. Â It is difficult for the consumer to choose the right form of salt. Â I will try and make it easy. There are two forms of salt available in the market place; refined and unrefined salt. > >> > >> Refined salt has had its minerals removed and has been bleached to give it the white appearance that we are accustomed to seeing with salt. Â It is the fine, white salt that is available at almost any restaurant or grocery store. Â Refined salt has been bleached and exposed to many toxic chemicals in order to get it to its final product. Â Â It has aluminum, ferrocyanide and bleach in it. Â I believe this refining process has made it a toxic, devitalized substance that needs to be avoided. > >> > >> Unrefined salt, on the other hand has not been put through a harsh chemical process. Â It contains the natural minerals that was originally part of the product. Â The mineral content of it gives it a distinct color. Â The colors of unrefined salt can vary depending on where it is taken from. Â This is due to the changing mineral content of the various brands of salt. Â It is the minerals in unrefined salt that provides all the benefits of this product. Â The minerals supply the body with over 80 trace elements needed to maintain and sustain health. Â Furthermore, the minerals elevate the pH (correct acidity) and lower blood pressure. Â Our maker gave us salt to use in our diet-unrefined salt-with its' full complement of minerals. Â It should be the salt of choice. It is a vital ingredient that needs to be part of everyone's diet. > >> My experience has clearly shown that a diet devoid of unrefined salt will make it nearly impossible to achieve your optimal health. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 26, 2010 Report Share Posted August 26, 2010 Actually, a lot of sea salt IS refined. If it is pure white, then it has been refined. You will have to look at a health food store or online. Read Dr. Brownstein’s book on salt to get the full explanation. Kendra has listed the unrefined name brands. Ask for those. Donna in IL Sea salt is typically unrefined. there are many types/brands of sea salt and it can come from many geographic locations -- France, USA, Himalayan moutains. You can get Celtic (France), Himalayan, RealSalt (Utah), Hawaiian... They are each unique with varying mineral content. You can probably get it at your local health food store or whole foods type market. Or - online... hth Kendra On Thu, Aug 26, 2010 at 2:37 AM, light <lauralight1972@...> wrote: > > Why don't I see " un-refined " salt on shevles, is it the asme as " sea salt? " They don't use that word where I've shopped to describe salt, is this going to be something else I have to buy online if I want? > > > >> >> " Normal " or refined salt is devoid of nutrients. Unrefined has over 80 trace elements (at least Celtic does) and that helps to balance your system. Refined salt is cleaned with a toxic chloride brine that is very bad for you. >> >> This is from an interview Dr. Brownstein. >> >> What is the difference between refined and unrefined salt? >> Greg, nobody makes a distinction between unrefined and refined salt. They 'lump' all salt together as a bad substance. This is a terrible mistake. There is too much misinformation about salt in the media, so let me set the record straight. It is difficult for the consumer to choose the right form of salt. I will try and make it easy. There are two forms of salt available in the market place; refined and unrefined salt. >> >> Refined salt has had its minerals removed and has been bleached to give it the white appearance that we are accustomed to seeing with salt. It is the fine, white salt that is available at almost any restaurant or grocery store. Refined salt has been bleached and exposed to many toxic chemicals in order to get it to its final product. It has aluminum, ferrocyanide and bleach in it. I believe this refining process has made it a toxic, devitalized substance that needs to be avoided. >> >> Unrefined salt, on the other hand has not been put through a harsh chemical process. It contains the natural minerals that was originally part of the product. The mineral content of it gives it a distinct color. The colors of unrefined salt can vary depending on where it is taken from. This is due to the changing mineral content of the various brands of salt. It is the minerals in unrefined salt that provides all the benefits of this product. The minerals supply the body with over 80 trace elements needed to maintain and sustain health. Furthermore, the minerals elevate the pH (correct acidity) and lower blood pressure. Our maker gave us salt to use in our diet-unrefined salt-with its' full complement of minerals. It should be the salt of choice. It is a vital ingredient that needs to be part of everyone's diet. >> My experience has clearly shown that a diet devoid of unrefined salt will make it nearly impossible to achieve your optimal health. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 26, 2010 Report Share Posted August 26, 2010 Is cattle block salt, (red mineral), fairly free of toxins and most of all " natural " .. chiseled out of salt deposits or is it a halfway natural compound? I always used to provide it for the cattle, and remember as a young girl on the farm, enjoying chips off it or the white salt blocks. Just wondering. Joyce Simmerman Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 31, 2010 Report Share Posted August 31, 2010 Block salt meant for animals may have impurities such as dirt particles. It may be cleaned less well than unrefined salt for human consumption is. The red blocks are unrefined. The white blocks are refined. btw, If offered unrefined and refined salt, animals choose the unrefined. -- At 03:30 PM 8/26/2010, you wrote: > Is cattle block salt, (red mineral), fairly free of toxins and most of >all " natural " .. chiseled out of salt deposits or is it a halfway >natural compound? I always used to provide it for the cattle, and >remember as a young girl on the farm, enjoying chips off it or the white >salt blocks. Just wondering. Joyce Simmerman ~~~ There is no way to peace; peace is the way ~~~~ --A.J. Muste Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 31, 2010 Report Share Posted August 31, 2010 Hello , And those red blocks are loaded with arsenic and other haz wastes too... Linsey On Aug 31, 2010, at 11:03 AM, Baker wrote: > Block salt meant for animals may have impurities such as dirt > particles. It may be cleaned less well than unrefined salt for human > consumption is. The red blocks are unrefined. The white blocks are > refined. btw, If offered unrefined and refined salt, animals choose the > unrefined. > > -- > > At 03:30 PM 8/26/2010, you wrote: >> Is cattle block salt, (red mineral), fairly free of toxins and most of >> all " natural " .. chiseled out of salt deposits or is it a halfway >> natural compound? I always used to provide it for the cattle, and >> remember as a young girl on the farm, enjoying chips off it or the white >> salt blocks. Just wondering. Joyce Simmerman > > > ~ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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