Guest guest Posted September 2, 2010 Report Share Posted September 2, 2010 look for the fruits and vegetables which supply potassium or magnesium or calcium etc.e.g. just google" foods that supply magnesium" etc .Good food surely the best way to get nutrients. i just went to the foot doc and we talked about my bursitis, spurs and the shape of my foot in relation to charcot joint. i also mentioned i get a lot of leg cramps, severe and he said that leg cramps are very often related to low quinine. he said there are quinine pills and also club soda, (ick) without the rum or whatever they can keep the club soda, plus "soda" makes my legs and feet swell. anyway before i forgot i wanted to just mention the quinine thing because as far as i am concerned, anything to get rid of the leg cramps. diane, near philly, pa Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 2, 2010 Report Share Posted September 2, 2010 I want to share my use with mag oil,,I make my own,,,I order by the pound from,,wwwgettankedaquariums.com or I call 717-243-9545. I use equal parts water and magnesium chloride crystals, I warm the water and mix,,I put in a spray bottle and spray my body,,,it is very relaxing,,,I also have a shallow pan I soak my feet sometimes..when I have time,,,this helps my body utilize my iodine and minerals I take. This seller is also on ebay, as Get tanked. >> >> > what does ivory soap under the mattress do? how does that work? i> > need to get mag oil i guess. i can try that but really, this is a> > mission. when i get the cramps in the leg between the knee and the> > groin, they don't want to go away and they are ridiculously painful.> > diane, near philly, pa>>I may have something to contribute here. I have three issues that >coincide in this soap treatment for leg cramps. One, I have multiple >chemical sensitivities, so that if I am near something with a chemical I >react to my lips, tongue, then throat begin to burn like I was eating hot >peppers. That's point one.>>Next, I have severe cramps in my toes and calfs when I'm in bed, >especially in the morning. I am taking magnesium supplements daily and >potassium to balance the mag. Still I have the cramping.>>Finally, I also have leaky gut problems, which means often nutrients >normally absorbed in the gut to nourish the body don't get absorbed. At >the same time, bad ingredients do leak into the bloodstream.>>So here we have a gut that doesn't absorb nutrient intake, aka magnesium >by mouth! A sensitivity to chemicals, such as perfumes and additives >found in various products.>>Well here was the acid test: I read your advice about putting a bar of >Ivory soap in bed near my feet. Ivory soap is supposed to be 99 and >44/100ths percent pure. They don't say pure what, but I didn't think that >included perfumes. But it does, just a little perfume.>>So here I was, testing the soap. The cramps started in my toes, then my >calfs. I felt around the bed with my feet for the soap bar, grasped it >between my two feet so the bar was next to the bottoms of my feet which >would be most absorbant... and within seconds I could TASTE the hot pepper >feeling that I get from chemicals. So I knew that something was >immediately being absorbed through my skin.>>Very shortly after that, maybe less than a minute my leg cramps subsided, >and finally quit! These have been severe cramps until then. Nothing >would stop them but walking around to cause different pressures to relax >the cramped muscles.>>OK, what do we learn from this? First my body did absorb something from >the soap bar. It doubtless was the perfume that caused the chemical >sensitivity, but that was good because it showed me that something was >indeed being absorbed into my blood stream. The cramping stopped very >soon after, which tells me something in the soap nourished the toes and >calf muscles.>>Checking the ingredients in Ivory soap I learned that it does contain >magnesium sulfate. Magnesium! I was taking magnesium supplements, but >because of my poor gut absorbtion I wasn't getting it into my blood. FYI, >calcium which we get lots of in milk, cheese, etc., causes muscles to >contract. Magnesium causes muscles to relax. We don't get nearly enough >magnesium, it being lost from the soil that grows our food.>>So the Ivory soap passed the test. The magnesium was absorbed through my >feet and got immediately into the blood stream where the problem was... >the toes and legs. The taste of peppers told me something was being >absorbed indeed. And the cramping stopped not only during the night, but >was less and less as the days wore on, apparently because the absorption >during the night of being near the soap kept feeding my cells with >magnesium as I slept.>>So, how about that, gals? Absolutely amazing! It sounded like a crazy >idea, going to bed with a bar of soap. But logical when we know the >science and what the body is doing.>>Try it, just leave the soap in bed with you. All night you'll be >absorbing some good stuff you need.>Marji>>>>------------------------------------>>All off topic posts should go to the IodineOT >group IodineOT/>>>Commonly asked questions: http://tinyurl.com/yhnds5e Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 2, 2010 Report Share Posted September 2, 2010 My husband had severe leg cramps and found that magnesium oil helped somewhat, but what helped prevent them seemed to be really increasing his water intake, making real sure he wasn't dehydrated. Now he hardly ever gets them. Sandy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 2, 2010 Report Share Posted September 2, 2010 yeah i drink constantly. even if we go to dinner, i get water. i might get hot tea but i have water too. i think a good part of mine is being hypo. i am not hypo to the point of being incapacitated, but i am that i do feel tired and i believe the cramps. it is definitely a pain. diane, near philly, pa On Sep 2, 2010, at 4:42 PM, calvathansa@... wrote: My husband had severe leg cramps and found that magnesium oil helped somewhat, but what helped prevent them seemed to be really increasing his water intake, making real sure he wasn't dehydrated. Now he hardly ever gets them. Sandy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 2, 2010 Report Share Posted September 2, 2010 The nerves send electrical impulses signaled mainly by sodium and potassium pumps. They rely on the fact that the electrical charges must be in balance. Either HIGH or LOW potassium can cause muscular pain. You will see it in progressive adrenal fatigue/'s disease(this is not as rare as the printed medical hype of the day wants you to believe); pain occurs in the upper front of thighs, because inadequate cortisol will cause high potassium/low sodium. When cortisol release becomes very low the pain can become excruciating. (pain in low back as well).Cushing's is the opposite and I think muscle weakness will be more prominent that the pain (like a fibromyalgia), I believe it presents with high sodium/low potassium. Putting even more strain on the kidney, which must excrete potassium, would be many prescription drugs, like diuretics. Don't rule out that your prescriptions can be causing some issues. Magnesium and calcium must work in tandem and magnesium does act as a channel gate blocker on Ca so it can't rush in and excite the nerve. But if Mg supps aren't working, (don't load on Ca supps while trying to bring Mg up) then take a look at potassium/sodium. Your body minerals: magnesium, calcium, potassium, sodium need to be in balance for health. Adrenal diseases affect all of these minerals. (and I believe even serum vit D, but I'm still researching that one. ) High or low potassium doesn't necessarily always show up on a blood test. Other ideas you could research that could cause upper thigh pain: Diabetes/hypoglycemia (common in adrenal failings), kidney failing, blood clot, fracture of femur neck or shaft, femoral hernia, underactive thyroid, anemia (look up pernicious anemia also, common in adrenal problems), parkinsons, septic arthritis, and of course the adrenal /hormone problems I touched on above. Gail Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 2, 2010 Report Share Posted September 2, 2010 Electrolytes may help prevent leg cramps but mainly it's calcium/magnesium along with their co-factors such as vit D, Boron, etc. I used to get lots of leg cramps especially when pregnant but now I get none. I keep my cal/mag up high enough plus keep the ratio correct. Hope this helps. > > The nerves send electrical impulses signaled mainly by sodium and potassium pumps. They rely on the fact that the electrical charges must be in balance. > > Either HIGH or LOW potassium can cause muscular pain. You will see it in progressive adrenal fatigue/'s disease(this is not as rare as the printed medical hype of the day wants you to believe); pain occurs in the upper front of thighs, because inadequate cortisol will cause high potassium/low sodium. When cortisol release becomes very low the pain can become excruciating. (pain in low back as well).Cushing's is the opposite and I think muscle weakness will be more prominent that the pain (like a fibromyalgia), I believe it presents with high sodium/low potassium. > > Putting even more strain on the kidney, which must excrete potassium, would be many prescription drugs, like diuretics. Don't rule out that your prescriptions can be causing some issues. > > Magnesium and calcium must work in tandem and magnesium does act as a channel gate blocker on Ca so it can't rush in and excite the nerve. But if Mg supps aren't working, (don't load on Ca supps while trying to bring Mg up) then take a look at potassium/sodium. > > Your body minerals: magnesium, calcium, potassium, sodium need to be in balance for health. Adrenal diseases affect all of these minerals. (and I believe even serum vit D, but I'm still researching that one. ) > High or low potassium doesn't necessarily always show up on a blood test. > > Other ideas you could research that could cause upper thigh pain: > > Diabetes/hypoglycemia (common in adrenal failings), kidney failing, blood clot, fracture of femur neck or shaft, femoral hernia, underactive thyroid, anemia (look up pernicious anemia also, common in adrenal problems), parkinsons, septic arthritis, and of course the adrenal /hormone problems I touched on above. > > > Gail > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 4, 2010 Report Share Posted September 4, 2010 For what it is worth, pertaining to hydration, here is my experience.Even after adding the supplemental salt, I would drink and drink and still feel less than really hydrated, with easily chapped lips.I did some Googling on cellular hydration and didn't find a whole lot, but several times read, "Where sodium goes, water follows". I started adding Celtic salt to all my drinking water--about 1/4 tsp. per 16 oz or so. I find myself drinking less and yet feeling more hydrated, even in the heat.JudyThey that trust in the LORD shall be as mount Zion, which cannot be removed, but abideth for ever. Ps. 124:1 My husband had severe leg cramps and found that magnesium oil helped somewhat, but what helped prevent them seemed to be really increasing his water intake, making real sure he wasn't dehydrated. Now he hardly ever gets them. Sandy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 4, 2010 Report Share Posted September 4, 2010 i have heard different people say how that works and i have celtic sea salt here but i swell ridiculously, i mean to the point my shoes don't fit and i always expect to swell if i drink the salt. i know i hav ee to try it but i am working up to it... thanks for your input thoughi have wondered if iodine helps against cramping. will have to check into that. diane, near philly, pa On Sep 4, 2010, at 7:16 PM, Judith Marg wrote:For what it is worth, pertaining to hydration, here is my experience.Even after adding the supplemental salt, I would drink and drink and still feel less than really hydrated, with easily chapped lips.I did some Googling on cellular hydration and didn't find a whole lot, but several times read, "Where sodium goes, water follows". I started adding Celtic salt to all my drinking water--about 1/4 tsp. per 16 oz or so. I find myself drinking less and yet feeling more hydrated, even in the heat.JudyThey that trust in the LORD shall be as mount Zion, which cannot be removed, but abideth for ever. Ps. 124:1 My husband had severe leg cramps and found that magnesium oil helped somewhat, but what helped prevent them seemed to be really increasing his water intake, making real sure he wasn't dehydrated. Now he hardly ever gets them. Sandy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 5, 2010 Report Share Posted September 5, 2010 A fascinating health and medical book is "Your Body's Many Cries for Water". He advocates a pinch of sea salt in a glass of water for everyone. He claims that much pain is from dehydration and he talks about what body functions get shut down when dehydration occurs. Great reading. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 5, 2010 Report Share Posted September 5, 2010 Judy, thanks for bringing this back up. I wanted to say this but it got away. I first learned about unrefined salt 5 or 6 years ago, with the suggestion to put a pinch in each glass of water. I stopped being dehydrated all the time. The unrefined salt helps the body stay hydrated better. -- >For what it is worth, pertaining to hydration, here is my experience. >Even after adding the supplemental salt, I would drink and drink and still >feel less than really hydrated, with easily chapped lips. >I did some Googling on cellular hydration and didn't find a whole lot, but >several times read, " Where sodium goes, water follows " . I started adding >Celtic salt to all my drinking water--about 1/4 tsp. per 16 oz or so. I >find myself drinking less and yet feeling more hydrated, even in the heat. >Judy ~~~ There is no way to peace; peace is the way ~~~~ --A.J. Muste Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 5, 2010 Report Share Posted September 5, 2010 THIS IS THE BOOK Â Water: For Health, for Healing, for Life: You're Not Sick, You're Thirsty! AND HERE IN THE NETHERLANDS BECAUE MANY READERS BEGAN TO ASK ABOUT CELTIC SALT THE PUBLISHING HOUSE BEGAN TO SELL CELTIC SALT AND IT IS BEST SELLER Â http://www.succesboeken.nl/boeken/9789079872001/Keltisch-zeezout & PC=476178F4 On Sun, Sep 5, 2010 at 11:54 AM, Baker <vbaker@...> wrote: Â Judy, thanks for bringing this back up. I wanted to say this but it got away. I first learned about unrefined salt 5 or 6 years ago, with the suggestion to put a pinch in each glass of water. I stopped being dehydrated all the time. The unrefined salt helps the body stay hydrated better.-->For what it is worth, pertaining to hydration, here is my experience.>Even after adding the supplemental salt, I would drink and drink and still >feel less than really hydrated, with easily chapped lips.>I did some Googling on cellular hydration and didn't find a whole lot, but >several times read, " Where sodium goes, water follows " . I started adding >Celtic salt to all my drinking water--about 1/4 tsp. per 16 oz or so. I >find myself drinking less and yet feeling more hydrated, even in the heat.>Judy~~~ There is no way to peace; peace is the way ~~~~ --A.J. Muste Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 5, 2010 Report Share Posted September 5, 2010 I guess putting epsom salt in a sock in bed with you would work like the ivory soap? > > > > > > what does ivory soap under the mattress do? how does that work? i > > > need to get mag oil i guess. i can try that but really, this is a > > > mission. when i get the cramps in the leg between the knee and the > > > groin, they don't want to go away and they are ridiculously painful. > > > diane, near philly, pa > > > >I may have something to contribute here. I have three issues that > >coincide in this soap treatment for leg cramps. One, I have multiple > >chemical sensitivities, so that if I am near something with a chemical I > >react to my lips, tongue, then throat begin to burn like I was eating hot > >peppers. That's point one. > > > >Next, I have severe cramps in my toes and calfs when I'm in bed, > >especially in the morning. I am taking magnesium supplements daily and > >potassium to balance the mag. Still I have the cramping. > > > >Finally, I also have leaky gut problems, which means often nutrients > >normally absorbed in the gut to nourish the body don't get absorbed. At > >the same time, bad ingredients do leak into the bloodstream. > > > >So here we have a gut that doesn't absorb nutrient intake, aka magnesium > >by mouth! A sensitivity to chemicals, such as perfumes and additives > >found in various products. > > > >Well here was the acid test: I read your advice about putting a bar of > >Ivory soap in bed near my feet. Ivory soap is supposed to be 99 and > >44/100ths percent pure. They don't say pure what, but I didn't think that > >included perfumes. But it does, just a little perfume. > > > >So here I was, testing the soap. The cramps started in my toes, then my > >calfs. I felt around the bed with my feet for the soap bar, grasped it > >between my two feet so the bar was next to the bottoms of my feet which > >would be most absorbant... and within seconds I could TASTE the hot pepper > >feeling that I get from chemicals. So I knew that something was > >immediately being absorbed through my skin. > > > >Very shortly after that, maybe less than a minute my leg cramps subsided, > >and finally quit! These have been severe cramps until then. Nothing > >would stop them but walking around to cause different pressures to relax > >the cramped muscles. > > > >OK, what do we learn from this? First my body did absorb something from > >the soap bar. It doubtless was the perfume that caused the chemical > >sensitivity, but that was good because it showed me that something was > >indeed being absorbed into my blood stream. The cramping stopped very > >soon after, which tells me something in the soap nourished the toes and > >calf muscles. > > > >Checking the ingredients in Ivory soap I learned that it does contain > >magnesium sulfate. Magnesium! I was taking magnesium supplements, but > >because of my poor gut absorbtion I wasn't getting it into my blood. FYI, > >calcium which we get lots of in milk, cheese, etc., causes muscles to > >contract. Magnesium causes muscles to relax. We don't get nearly enough > >magnesium, it being lost from the soil that grows our food. > > > >So the Ivory soap passed the test. The magnesium was absorbed through my > >feet and got immediately into the blood stream where the problem was... > >the toes and legs. The taste of peppers told me something was being > >absorbed indeed. And the cramping stopped not only during the night, but > >was less and less as the days wore on, apparently because the absorption > >during the night of being near the soap kept feeding my cells with > >magnesium as I slept. > > > >So, how about that, gals? Absolutely amazing! It sounded like a crazy > >idea, going to bed with a bar of soap. But logical when we know the > >science and what the body is doing. > > > >Try it, just leave the soap in bed with you. All night you'll be > >absorbing some good stuff you need. > >Marji > > > > > > > >------------------------------------ > > > >All off topic posts should go to the IodineOT > >group IodineOT/ > > > > > >Commonly asked questions: http://tinyurl.com/yhnds5e Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 5, 2010 Report Share Posted September 5, 2010 there is an idea.. diane, near philly, paOn Sep 5, 2010, at 8:50 PM, michelle wrote:I guess putting epsom salt in a sock in bed with you would work like the ivory soap?>> I want to share my use with mag oil,,I make my own,,,I order by the pound from,,wwwgettankedaquariums.com or I call 717-243-9545. I use equal parts water and magnesium chloride crystals, I warm the water and mix,,I put in a spray bottle and spray my body,,,it is very relaxing,,,I also have a shallow pan I soak my feet sometimes..when I have time,,,this helps my body utilize my iodine and minerals I take. This seller is also on ebay, as Get tanked.   > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 5, 2010 Report Share Posted September 5, 2010 Severe dehydration causes chapped cracked lips, but if it is not relieved by water intake suspect a vit B deficiency. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 6, 2010 Report Share Posted September 6, 2010 i am doing b12 and folic acid. i don't know waht the problem is. i take a diuretic so do take potassium. i could probably call teh doc and get prescrip, but i really don't know what is happening. i ran out of selenium and haven't had that for a bit, gotta get some, maybe that is contributing but i am just getting aggravated at this point. if it keeps up i am going to have to get some testing done as to what is wrong with me because i am getting stiff in the legs now too. the ankles mostly. along with the stupid thyroid issue, i had vein stripping when i had triple bypass (in 1994) and maybe the blood flow is causing some of this.. i don't know but i am getting really ticked now. getting in the tub last night, i had a cramp start but not finish thank God, in the top of the back of my leg. it is annoying. diane, near philly, pa On Sep 6, 2010, at 1:48 AM, Gail Buchmann wrote:Severe dehydration causes chapped cracked lips, but if it is not relieved by water intake suspect a vit B deficiency. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 6, 2010 Report Share Posted September 6, 2010 There used to be OTC quinine products you could get, but they have since pulled those, maybe 10 years ago. I used to get horrible foot cramps, and used quinine, and begged my primary care physician to write me a prescription for quinine, just in case I got a really bad one. He did, but warned me not to make a habit of using it, since they worry about its effect on the heart. I never did have to use it,and have since found that a combination of enough water, and magnesium oil and supplements, seem to have taken care of the problem. Beth in MN > > i just went to the foot doc and we talked about my bursitis, spurs and > the shape of my foot in relation to charcot joint. i also mentioned i > get a lot of leg cramps, severe and he said that leg cramps are very > often related to low quinine. he said there are quinine pills and also > club soda, (ick) without the rum or whatever they can keep the club > soda, plus " soda " makes my legs and feet swell. anyway before i forgot > i wanted to just mention the quinine thing because as far as i am > concerned, anything to get rid of the leg cramps. > > diane, near philly, pa > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 7, 2010 Report Share Posted September 7, 2010 B2 (Riboflavin)....causes cracks and linear fissures that can become infected with Candida (grayish lesions.) But diuretics will also cause muscle cramping and excessive dry mouth and dry lips. You should talk to your doc because he might want to change your diuretic type or perhaps when or how much you are taking, or perhaps even up your potassium a bit. The body doesn't like even a slight electrolyte imbalance. Sjogrens is another possibility you could look up that causes cracking dry lips. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 7, 2010 Report Share Posted September 7, 2010 I remembered the old product I used to use, it was called Legatrim, and they just suddenly dropped quinine from the ingredients,, because of some bad effects on people with a certain gene, mostly African-Americans, and also some potential heart impact on some people. I found a bike forum where people were discussing it, because of leg cramps, and one person said they could still get quinine, but they had to ask at the pharmacy (in NY State), and another who said they decided to try tonic water, since it has quinine in it, and that that actually stopped their cramps. That might be worth trying. The thing with quinine is that you don't want to use it all the time, but it usually gets rid of a cramp pretty quickly. Then you would want to address underlying problems via other means - hydration, magnesium, etc. Beth in MN > > B2 (Riboflavin)....causes cracks and linear fissures that can become infected with Candida (grayish lesions.) > > But diuretics will also cause muscle cramping and excessive dry mouth and dry lips. You should talk to your doc because he might want to change your diuretic type or perhaps when or how much you are taking, or perhaps even up your potassium a bit. The body doesn't like even a slight electrolyte imbalance. > > Sjogrens is another possibility you could look up that causes cracking dry lips. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 8, 2010 Report Share Posted September 8, 2010 When I was young (many moons ago) I would get open cracks at mouth corners and under ear lobes. I have read that these can be VitB related, too. I have not had them for many years now and have been taking high levels of B vitamins for a long time.JudyThey that trust in the LORD shall be as mount Zion, which cannot be removed, but abideth for ever. Ps. 124:1From: Gail Buchmann <gailski@...>Subject: Re: leg cramps fyiiodine Date: Monday, September 6, 2010, 12:48 AM Severe dehydration causes chapped cracked lips, but if it is not relieved by water intake suspect a vit B deficiency. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 9, 2010 Report Share Posted September 9, 2010 I have had really good luck with dolomite for leg cramps. Chew 3-4 for fastest relief. If you drink soda, the phosphorus in the soda will cause the body to pull the calcium out of the bones and muscles to balance/keep the blood levels up. Better to drop the soda if that is the case. Usually two dolomite am and pm are enough for prevention after stopping the soda. Don't go overboard and take a handful, or the magnesium will keep you on the toilet all night. Quinine drink is tonic water, not club soda. It tastes awful, but is a standard recommendation. I would recommend that you get a liberal amount of Celtic or Himalayan salt, for the minerals, and to help you detox. i have never had anyone say the dolomite did not work for them. > > i just went to the foot doc and we talked about my bursitis, spurs and > the shape of my foot in relation to charcot joint. i also mentioned i > get a lot of leg cramps, severe and he said that leg cramps are very > often related to low quinine. he said there are quinine pills and also > club soda, (ick) without the rum or whatever they can keep the club > soda, plus " soda " makes my legs and feet swell. anyway before i forgot > i wanted to just mention the quinine thing because as far as i am > concerned, anything to get rid of the leg cramps. > > diane, near philly, pa > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 20, 2010 Report Share Posted September 20, 2010 Diane,Did the Ivory Soap work?As far as I understand it, calcium, potassium and sodium are very common in the foods we normally eat. The real problem is magnesium. See: http://www.space-age.com/osteoporosis.htmlThis is especially true if you crave chocolate. Here is what I do whenever I crave "magnesium!"Stir together:1.5 c. filtered warm water (or 1/2 c. warm water to blend ingredients, and then 1 c. cold water) Do not use milk. The calcium will bind to the magnesium and not be absorbed.1/4 t. raw cocoa powder (unprocessed cocoa contains 3x's more antioxidant flavanols)1/2 to 1 t. molasses (also nutrient dense)Since I avoid as much processed sodium as I can, I take 1/4 t. to 1/2 t. of mineral salt a day, in the morning, with an equal amount of lemon juice (optional), in 1 c. (or 2 c. if taking 1/2 t. salt) filtered water. The strength is like broth. I like mine warm, but my husband likes his cold.If I feel a leg cramp coming on I can stop it by turning on a heating pad. If I am somewhere without one, I have also used a wash cloth repeatedly saturated with hot water and squeezed out. I have also been successful by rubbing several drops of peppermint oil on the area to increase blood flow and circulation when I was not near any hot water.Good luck! Vicki>> i just went to the foot doc and we talked about my bursitis, spurs and > the shape of my foot in relation to charcot joint. i also mentioned i > get a lot of leg cramps, severe and he said that leg cramps are very > often related to low quinine. he said there are quinine pills and also > club soda, (ick) without the rum or whatever they can keep the club > soda, plus "soda" makes my legs and feet swell. anyway before i forgot > i wanted to just mention the quinine thing because as far as i am > concerned, anything to get rid of the leg cramps.> > diane, near philly, pa> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 21, 2010 Report Share Posted September 21, 2010 " This is especially true if you crave chocolate. Here is what I do whenever I crave " magnesium! " See, I did not know this. No wonder I crave chocolate. I could care less if there is sugar in the product. I am just craving the chocolate. Once I bought a sugar free chocolate from a family chocolate business and found that I didn't crave the sugar but it was the chocolate. Very interesting I might say. I learned something new today :>) www.thereedfamily-blog.blogspot.com > > i just went to the foot doc and we talked about my bursitis, spurs and > the shape of my foot in relation to charcot joint. i also mentioned i > get a lot of leg cramps, severe and he said that leg cramps are very > often related to low quinine. he said there are quinine pills and also > club soda, (ick) without the rum or whatever they can keep the club > soda, plus " soda " makes my legs and feet swell. anyway before i forgot > i wanted to just mention the quinine thing because as far as i am > concerned, anything to get rid of the leg cramps. > > diane, near philly, pa > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 21, 2010 Report Share Posted September 21, 2010 what is the correlation between chocolate and magnesium? diane, near philly, pa On Sep 21, 2010, at 1:39 PM, reedfamilypa wrote:"This is especially true ifyou crave chocolate. Here is what I do whenever I crave "magnesium!" See, I did not know this. No wonder I crave chocolate. I could care less if there is sugar in the product. I am just craving the chocolate. Once I bought a sugar free chocolate from a family chocolate business and found that I didn't crave the sugar but it was the chocolate. Very interesting I might say. I learned something new today :>) www.thereedfamily-blog.blogspot.com --- In iodine , diane gaul <ditique@...> wrote:>> i just went to the foot doc and we talked about my bursitis, spurs and > the shape of my foot in relation to charcot joint. i also mentioned i > get a lot of leg cramps, severe and he said that leg cramps are very > often related to low quinine. he said there are quinine pills and also > club soda, (ick) without the rum or whatever they can keep the club > soda, plus "soda" makes my legs and feet swell. anyway before i forgot > i wanted to just mention the quinine thing because as far as i am > concerned, anything to get rid of the leg cramps.> > diane, near philly, pa> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 21, 2010 Report Share Posted September 21, 2010 in cacao there is a lot of magnesiumOn Tue, Sep 21, 2010 at 9:19 PM, diane gaul <ditique@...> wrote:  what is the correlation between chocolate and magnesium? diane, near philly, pa On Sep 21, 2010, at 1:39 PM, reedfamilypa wrote: " This is especially true ifyou crave chocolate. Here is what I do whenever I crave " magnesium! "  See, I did not know this. No wonder I crave chocolate. I could care less if there is sugar in the product. I am just craving the chocolate. Once I bought a sugar free chocolate from a family chocolate business and found that I didn't crave the sugar but it was the chocolate. Very interesting I might say. I learned something new today :>)  www.thereedfamily-blog.blogspot.com >> i just went to the foot doc and we talked about my bursitis, spurs and > the shape of my foot in relation to charcot joint. i also mentioned i > get a lot of leg cramps, severe and he said that leg cramps are very > often related to low quinine. he said there are quinine pills and also > club soda, (ick) without the rum or whatever they can keep the club > soda, plus " soda " makes my legs and feet swell. anyway before i forgot > i wanted to just mention the quinine thing because as far as i am > concerned, anything to get rid of the leg cramps.> > diane, near philly, pa> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 21, 2010 Report Share Posted September 21, 2010 thanks. see i keep calling it health food.... diane, near philly, pa On Sep 21, 2010, at 3:46 PM, ido zahavi wrote:in cacao there is a lot of magnesiumOn Tue, Sep 21, 2010 at 9:19 PM, diane gaul <ditique@...> wrote: what is the correlation between chocolate and magnesium?diane, near philly, paOn Sep 21, 2010, at 1:39 PM, reedfamilypa wrote:"This is especially true ifyou crave chocolate. Here is what I do whenever I crave "magnesium!" See, I did not know this. No wonder I crave chocolate. I could care less if there is sugar in the product. I am just craving the chocolate. Once I bought a sugar free chocolate from a family chocolate business and found that I didn't crave the sugar but it was the chocolate. Very interesting I might say. I learned something new today :>) www.thereedfamily-blog.blogspot.com --- In iodine , diane gaul <ditique@...> wrote:>> i just went to the foot doc and we talked about my bursitis, spurs and > the shape of my foot in relation to charcot joint. i also mentioned i > get a lot of leg cramps, severe and he said that leg cramps are very > often related to low quinine. he said there are quinine pills and also > club soda, (ick) without the rum or whatever they can keep the club > soda, plus "soda" makes my legs and feet swell. anyway before i forgot > i wanted to just mention the quinine thing because as far as i am > concerned, anything to get rid of the leg cramps.> > diane, near philly, pa> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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