Re: Update on Newby :0) - shoulder blade pain - caused by vitamin C?

[Guest guest]

may be you should use another form of vit c

On Thu, Feb 11, 2010 at 5:30 PM, Jirina Salusky <jirina@...> wrote:

 

I started taking Iodoral again (day before yesterday)- with the supporting supplements this time. :-) Thank you for that advice. I did not get dizzy, but have a severe pain under my left shoulder blade. It was so bad yesterday it hurt when I breathed deeply. I still feel it

today whenever I move my upper body. It is kind of dull. I am also detoxing (brain fog, etc...)I think it may be related to the vitamin C I took. I took 1000 in the evening and then 1000 the following morning, which is when the pain

started. I skipped my morning dose today...My question is, should I keep taking the vitamin C even if it makes the pain worse or should I just leave it out. I need to detox and I don't want to hinder the detox by leaving out something I need. But I also

don't want to needlessly hurt myself. _I am also taking:_Iodine ( Iodoral - contains iodine & iodide) 25Vitamin C - 2,000 mgsSelenium 200 mcg Magnesium 200 - 400 mgsCeltic Sea Salt - 1/2 - 1 tsp

Thanks for your previous advice.Jirina

[Guest guest]

Hello Jirina,

That is classic for gall stones...you need a liver gall bladder cleanse with the

grapefruit juice, canola or olive oil and epsom salts...if you need the recipe

and protocol I can send to you privately.

To your good health!

Linsey McLean

Biochemist

Vita Royal Prod Inc

vitaroyal.com

On Feb 11, 2010, at 9:30 AM, Jirina Salusky wrote:

> I started taking Iodoral again (day before yesterday)- with the

> supporting supplements this time. :-) Thank you for that advice. I

> did not get dizzy, but have a severe pain under my left shoulder blade.

> It was so bad yesterday it hurt when I breathed deeply. I still feel it

> today whenever I move my upper body. It is kind of dull. I am also

> detoxing (brain fog, etc...)

>

> I think it may be related to the vitamin C I took. I took 1000 in the

> evening and then 1000 the following morning, which is when the pain

> started. I skipped my morning dose today...

>

> My question is, should I keep taking the vitamin C even if it makes the

> pain worse or should I just leave it out. I need to detox and I don't

> want to hinder the detox by leaving out something I need. But I also

> don't want to needlessly hurt myself.

>

> _I am also taking:_

> Iodine ( Iodoral - contains iodine & iodide) 25

> Vitamin C - 2,000 mgs

> Selenium 200 mcg

> Magnesium 200 - 400 mgs

> Celtic Sea Salt - 1/2 - 1 tsp

>

>

> Thanks for your previous advice.

>

> Jirina

>

>

> ------------------------------------

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Thank you Linsey. Yes please send me more info on the protocol. Do you

also have any articles that explain it?

Jirina

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Biochemist wrote:

>

> Hello Jirina,

> That is classic for gall stones...you need a liver gall bladder

> cleanse with the grapefruit juice, canola or olive oil and epsom

> salts...if you need the recipe and protocol I can send to you privately.

>

> To your good health!

>

> Linsey McLean

> Biochemist

> Vita Royal Prod Inc

> vitaroyal.com

>

> On Feb 11, 2010, at 9:30 AM, Jirina Salusky wrote:

>

> > I started taking Iodoral again (day before yesterday)- with the

> > supporting supplements this time. :-) Thank you for that advice. I

> > did not get dizzy, but have a severe pain under my left shoulder blade.

> > It was so bad yesterday it hurt when I breathed deeply. I still feel it

> > today whenever I move my upper body. It is kind of dull. I am also

> > detoxing (brain fog, etc...)

> >

> > I think it may be related to the vitamin C I took. I took 1000 in the

> > evening and then 1000 the following morning, which is when the pain

> > started. I skipped my morning dose today...

> >

> > My question is, should I keep taking the vitamin C even if it makes the

> > pain worse or should I just leave it out. I need to detox and I don't

> > want to hinder the detox by leaving out something I need. But I also

> > don't want to needlessly hurt myself.

> >

> > _I am also taking:_

> > Iodine ( Iodoral - contains iodine & iodide) 25

> > Vitamin C - 2,000 mgs

> > Selenium 200 mcg

> > Magnesium 200 - 400 mgs

> > Celtic Sea Salt - 1/2 - 1 tsp

> >

> >

> > Thanks for your previous advice.

> >

> > Jirina

> >

> >

> > ------------------------------------

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

Ido ,

Do you sleep on your left side.?

Maybe you pilled a muscle some way?

Can you do press ups?

May seem weird but I had a similar pain and press ups cleared it.

I started taking Iodoral again (day before yesterday)- with the supporting supplements this time. :-) Thank you for that advice. I did not get dizzy, but have a severe pain under my left shoulder blade. It was so bad yesterday it hurt when I breathed deeply. I still feel it today whenever I move my upper body. It is kind of dull. I am also detoxing (brain fog, etc...)I think it may be related to the vitamin C I took. I took 1000 in the evening and then 1000 the following morning, which is when the pain started. I skipped my morning dose today...My question is, should I keep taking the vitamin C even if it makes the pain worse or should I just leave it out. I need to detox and I don't want to hinder the detox by leaving out something I need. But I also don't want to needlessly hurt myself. _I am also taking:_Iodine ( Iodoral - contains iodine & iodide) 25Vitamin C - 2,000

mgsSelenium 200 mcg Magnesium 200 - 400 mgsCeltic Sea Salt - 1/2 - 1 tspThanks for your previous advice.Jirina

[Guest guest]

i was not the one with the problem.i try to give an answer

On Thu, Feb 11, 2010 at 8:16 PM, david kenna <davidjohnkenna@...> wrote:

 

Ido ,

Do you sleep on your left side.?

Maybe you pilled a muscle some way?

Can you do press ups?

May seem weird but I had a similar pain and press ups cleared it.

 

I started taking Iodoral again (day before yesterday)- with the supporting supplements this time. :-) Thank you for that advice. I did not get dizzy, but have a severe pain under my left shoulder blade.

It was so bad yesterday it hurt when I breathed deeply. I still feel it today whenever I move my upper body. It is kind of dull. I am also detoxing (brain fog, etc...)I think it may be related to the vitamin C I took. I took 1000 in the

evening and then 1000 the following morning, which is when the pain started. I skipped my morning dose today...My question is, should I keep taking the vitamin C even if it makes the pain worse or should I just leave it out. I need to detox and I don't

want to hinder the detox by leaving out something I need. But I also don't want to needlessly hurt myself. _I am also taking:_Iodine ( Iodoral - contains iodine & iodide) 25Vitamin C - 2,000 mgs

Selenium 200 mcg Magnesium 200 - 400 mgsCeltic Sea Salt - 1/2 - 1 tspThanks for your previous advice.Jirina

[Guest guest]

Your pain is not necessarily vit

C related. I believe that is still part of detox, and your body needs more C to

help clear the toxins. Just because the pain started near when you took the C,

isn’t saying it was the C. somethings just take awhile to set in.

Remember that there is often a “healing

crisis” – you might feel worse before you get better. I would keep on, and if

it pursists, then try leaving it out awhile.

Donna in IL

I started taking Iodoral again (day before yesterday)- with the

supporting supplements this time. :-) Thank you for that advice. I

did not get dizzy, but have a severe pain under my left shoulder blade.

It was so bad yesterday it hurt when I breathed deeply. I still feel it

today whenever I move my upper body. It is kind of dull. I am also

detoxing (brain fog, etc...)

I think it may be related to the vitamin C I took. I took 1000 in the

evening and then 1000 the following morning, which is when the pain

started. I skipped my morning dose today...

My question is, should I keep taking the vitamin C even if it makes the

pain worse or should I just leave it out. I need to detox and I don't

want to hinder the detox by leaving out something I need. But I also

don't want to needlessly hurt myself.

_I am also taking:_

Iodine ( Iodoral - contains iodine & iodide) 25

Vitamin C - 2,000 mgs

Selenium 200 mcg

Magnesium 200 - 400 mgs

Celtic Sea Salt - 1/2 - 1 tsp

Thanks for your previous advice.

Jirina

[Guest guest]

depending on any meds you take. i know with my bp meds i cannot eat grapefruit or gf juice diane, near philly, pa On Feb 11, 2010, at 12:18 PM, Biochemist wrote:Hello Jirina,That is classic for gall stones...you need a liver gall bladder cleanse with the grapefruit juice, canola or olive oil and epsom salts...if you need the recipe and protocol I can send to you privately.To your good health!Linsey McLeanBiochemistVita Royal Prod Incvitaroyal.comOn Feb 11, 2010, at 9:30 AM, Jirina Salusky wrote:> I started taking Iodoral again (day before yesterday)- with the > supporting supplements this time. :-) Thank you for that advice. I > did not get dizzy, but have a severe pain under my left shoulder blade. > It was so bad yesterday it hurt when I breathed deeply. I still feel it > today whenever I move my upper body. It is kind of dull. I am also > detoxing (brain fog, etc...)> > I think it may be related to the vitamin C I took. I took 1000 in the > evening and then 1000 the following morning, which is when the pain > started. I skipped my morning dose today...> > My question is, should I keep taking the vitamin C even if it makes the > pain worse or should I just leave it out. I need to detox and I don't > want to hinder the detox by leaving out something I need. But I also > don't want to needlessly hurt myself. > > _I am also taking:_> Iodine ( Iodoral - contains iodine & iodide) 25> Vitamin C - 2,000 mgs> Selenium 200 mcg > Magnesium 200 - 400 mgs> Celtic Sea Salt - 1/2 - 1 tsp> > > Thanks for your previous advice.> > Jirina> > > ------------------------------------> > > > >

[Guest guest]

Hello Diane,

I also have clients on meds, and for the short duration of the cleanse, it is

not a problem. And far worth the benefits in the long run....the goal of health

restoration is just that...so you do not need the meds any more...meds were

never intended from their inception to be lived on...just to help so that the

cause of the cause can be identified and resolved...

To your good health!

Linsey McLean

Biochemist

Vita Royal Prod Inc

vitaroyal.com

On Feb 11, 2010, at 12:33 PM, diane gaul wrote:

>

>

> depending on any meds you take. i know with my bp meds i cannot eat grapefruit

or gf juice

> diane, near philly, pa

>

>

>

>

>

> On Feb 11, 2010, at 12:18 PM, Biochemist wrote:

>

>> Hello Jirina,

>> That is classic for gall stones...you need a liver gall bladder cleanse with

the grapefruit juice, canola or olive oil and epsom salts...if you need the

recipe and protocol I can send to you privately.

>>

>> To your good health!

>>

>> Linsey McLean

>> Biochemist

>> Vita Royal Prod Inc

>> vitaroyal.com

>>

>> On Feb 11, 2010, at 9:30 AM, Jirina Salusky wrote:

>>

>> > I started taking Iodoral again (day before yesterday)- with the

>> > supporting supplements this time. :-) Thank you for that advice. I

>> > did not get dizzy, but have a severe pain under my left shoulder blade.

>> > It was so bad yesterday it hurt when I breathed deeply. I still feel it

>> > today whenever I move my upper body. It is kind of dull. I am also

>> > detoxing (brain fog, etc...)

>> >

>> > I think it may be related to the vitamin C I took. I took 1000 in the

>> > evening and then 1000 the following morning, which is when the pain

>> > started. I skipped my morning dose today...

>> >

>> > My question is, should I keep taking the vitamin C even if it makes the

>> > pain worse or should I just leave it out. I need to detox and I don't

>> > want to hinder the detox by leaving out something I need. But I also

>> > don't want to needlessly hurt myself.

>> >

>> > _I am also taking:_

>> > Iodine ( Iodoral - contains iodine & iodide) 25

>> > Vitamin C - 2,000 mgs

>> > Selenium 200 mcg

>> > Magnesium 200 - 400 mgs

>> > Celtic Sea Salt - 1/2 - 1 tsp

>> >

>> >

>> > Thanks for your previous advice.

>> >

>> > Jirina

>> >

>> >

>> > ------------------------------------

>> >

>> >

>> >

>> >

>> >

[Guest guest]

apologies.

I started taking Iodoral again (day before yesterday)- with the supporting supplements this time. :-) Thank you for that advice. I did not get dizzy, but have a severe pain under my left shoulder blade. It was so bad yesterday it hurt when I breathed deeply. I still feel it today whenever I move my upper body. It is kind of dull. I am also detoxing (brain fog, etc...)I think it may be related to the vitamin C I took. I took 1000 in the evening and then 1000 the following morning, which is when the pain started. I skipped my morning dose today...My question is, should I keep taking the vitamin C even if it makes the pain worse or should I just leave it out. I need to detox and I don't want to hinder the detox by leaving out something I need. But I also don't want to needlessly hurt myself. _I am also taking:_Iodine ( Iodoral - contains iodine & iodide) 25Vitamin C - 2,000

mgsSelenium 200 mcg Magnesium 200 - 400 mgsCeltic Sea Salt - 1/2 - 1 tspThanks for your previous advice.Jirina

[Guest guest]

There could be many reasons for the pain you

describe and since none of us have your past health history, diet, stressors,

etc. it very difficult to give adequate advice.

Some things to consider:

Pain associated with the gallbladder usually radiates through to the back shoulder blade on the right side or

in the middle between the shoulder blades. This back shoulder blade chest pain

is one of the most common yet undiagnosed symptoms of a gallbladder disorder. It

may come and go or be constant. And it may be sharp, excruciating or dull. It

may also occur especially at night.

Pain

under the left shoulder blade may indicate a concern with the 1) stomach including ulcers, pancreatitis, ectopic pregnancy,

diaphragm or a rib not moving correctly, 2) chest

including myocardial infarction, pericarditis, pleuritis, pneumonia, pulmonary

embolus, aortic dissection.

Vitamin

C should not directly cause shoulder pain and in fact it can act as a pain

reliever when used in high dosages. But some types of Vitamin C (ascorbic acid) may cause stomach upset and some people experience stomach

upset even with Iodoral. If you

have low stomach acidity then this could be causing the pain or you may simply

need to take your supplements with food.

According to Dr. Jim Howenstine low stomach acidity can be a result of

insufficient iodine in the body. However, if you are taking iodine (any form)

then you will need to take Vitamin C.

The

best way to determine if a particular supplement is causing concern is to discontinue

the supplement(s) for a few days to see if the concern is alleviated. If the

pain persists, go see a healthcare practitioner that can help determine the

cause of your pain.

Be Well

Dr.L

I started taking Iodoral again (day before yesterday)- with the

supporting supplements this time. :-) Thank you for that advice. I

did not get dizzy, but have a severe pain under my left shoulder blade.

It was so bad yesterday it hurt when I breathed deeply. I still feel it

today whenever I move my upper body. It is kind of dull. I am also

detoxing (brain fog, etc...)

I think it may be related to the vitamin C I took. I took 1000 in the

evening and then 1000 the following morning, which is when the pain

started. I skipped my morning dose today...

My question is, should I keep taking the vitamin C even if it makes the

pain worse or should I just leave it out. I need to detox and I don't

want to hinder the detox by leaving out something I need. But I also

don't want to needlessly hurt myself.

_I am also taking:_

Iodine ( Iodoral - contains iodine & iodide) 25

Vitamin C - 2,000 mgs

Selenium 200 mcg

Magnesium 200 - 400 mgs

Celtic Sea Salt - 1/2 - 1 tsp

Thanks for your previous advice.

Jirina

[Guest guest]

Dr L,

It is my belief that it was sleeping in an unusual position that gave rise to my problem which

ceased when I did press ups.

From: Dr. Loretta Lanphier <drlanphier@...>Subject: RE: Update on Newby :0) - shoulder blade pain - caused by vitamin C?iodine Date: Thursday, 11 February, 2010, 20:26

There could be many reasons for the pain you describe and since none of us have your past health history, diet, stressors, etc. it very difficult to give adequate advice.

Some things to consider:

Pain associated with the gallbladder usually radiates through to the back shoulder blade on the right side or in the middle between the shoulder blades. This back shoulder blade chest pain is one of the most common yet undiagnosed symptoms of a gallbladder disorder. It may come and go or be constant. And it may be sharp, excruciating or dull. It may also occur especially at night.

Pain under the left shoulder blade may indicate a concern with the 1) stomach including ulcers, pancreatitis, ectopic pregnancy, diaphragm or a rib not moving correctly, 2) chest including myocardial infarction, pericarditis, pleuritis, pneumonia, pulmonary embolus, aortic dissection.

Vitamin C should not directly cause shoulder pain and in fact it can act as a pain reliever when used in high dosages. But some types of Vitamin C (ascorbic acid) may cause stomach upset and some people experience stomach upset even with Iodoral. If you have low stomach acidity then this could be causing the pain or you may simply need to take your supplements with food. According to Dr. Jim Howenstine low stomach acidity can be a result of insufficient iodine in the body. However, if you are taking iodine (any form) then you will need to take Vitamin C.

The best way to determine if a particular supplement is causing concern is to discontinue the supplement(s) for a few days to see if the concern is alleviated. If the pain persists, go see a healthcare practitioner that can help determine the cause of your pain.Be WellDr.L

I started taking Iodoral again (day before yesterday)- with the supporting supplements this time. :-) Thank you for that advice. I did not get dizzy, but have a severe pain under my left shoulder blade. It was so bad yesterday it hurt when I breathed deeply. I still feel it today whenever I move my upper body. It is kind of dull. I am also detoxing (brain fog, etc...)I think it may be related to the vitamin C I took. I took 1000 in the evening and then 1000 the following morning, which is when the pain started. I skipped my morning dose today...My question is, should I keep taking the vitamin C even if it makes the pain worse or should I just leave it out. I need to detox and I don't want to hinder the detox by leaving out something I need. But I also don't want to needlessly hurt myself. _I am also

taking:_Iodine ( Iodoral - contains iodine & iodide) 25Vitamin C - 2,000 mgsSelenium 200 mcg Magnesium 200 - 400 mgsCeltic Sea Salt - 1/2 - 1 tspThanks for your previous advice.Jirina

[Guest guest]

and I think it may be related to Iodoral dose.

gracia

Donna Iler wrote:

>

> Your pain is not necessarily vit C related. I believe that is still

> part of detox, and your body needs more C to help clear the toxins.

> Just because the pain started near when you took the C, isn’t saying

> it was the C. somethings just take awhile to set in.

>

> Remember that there is often a “healing crisis” – you might feel worse

> before you get better. I would keep on, and if it pursists, then try

> leaving it out awhile.

>

> Donna in IL

>

> I started taking Iodoral again (day before yesterday)- with the

> supporting supplements this time. :-) Thank you for that advice. I

> did not get dizzy, but have a severe pain under my left shoulder blade.

> It was so bad yesterday it hurt when I breathed deeply. I still feel it

> today whenever I move my upper body. It is kind of dull. I am also

> detoxing (brain fog, etc...)

>

> I think it may be related to the vitamin C I took. I took 1000 in the

> evening and then 1000 the following morning, which is when the pain

> started. I skipped my morning dose today...

>

> My question is, should I keep taking the vitamin C even if it makes the

> pain worse or should I just leave it out. I need to detox and I don't

> want to hinder the detox by leaving out something I need. But I also

> don't want to needlessly hurt myself.

>

> _I am also taking:_

> Iodine ( Iodoral - contains iodine & iodide) 25

> Vitamin C - 2,000 mgs

> Selenium 200 mcg

> Magnesium 200 - 400 mgs

> Celtic Sea Salt - 1/2 - 1 tsp

>

> Thanks for your previous advice.

>

> Jirina

>

>

[Guest guest]

I think I will always need my meds, but they are all

hormones--thyroid/adrenal, and sex hormones.

gracia

Biochemist wrote:

>

>

> Hello Diane,

>

> I also have clients on meds, and for the short duration of the

> cleanse, it is not a problem. And far worth the benefits in the long

> run....the goal of health restoration is just that...so you do not

> need the meds any more...meds were never intended from their inception

> to be lived on...just to help so that the cause of the cause can be

> identified and resolved...

>

> To your good health!

>

> Linsey McLean

> Biochemist

> Vita Royal Prod Inc

> vitaroyal.com

>