Skin cancer

December 17, 1998

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From: Jim Lambert <jim@...>

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Subject: Re: skin cancer

From: Jim Lambert <jim@...>

Marcus wrote:

> what about the rising incidence of

> >skin cancers ..... that ARE exposed to the sun.

Dr. Liberman, OD, in Light, Medicine of the Future, states

categorically that the super-majority of people with skin cancers are

people with white skin who work in artificial light, mostly flourescent,

and who go out & get burned every year. The people who lie out in the

sun & turn brown every year have the lowest incidence of skin cancer.

This would indicate that UV is not the cause of skin cancer.

jim

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and Jim, I had read a few years ago in one of Sam Biser's

Newsletters, that some researchers in Europe had found that there had

been NO incidences of Skin Cancer in Sheep-Herders down through the

centuries! They also found that Skin Cancer had RARELY occured until

the ADVENT of of Sun-Tan lotions and Oils and then afterwards a very

HIGH increase through the years afterwards, corresponding with extensive

use of them. Their studies found that the U-V rays reacted with the

RANCID OILS in these products, thus promoting Skin Cancer!

Tom/Psalms 150:6!

December 17, 1998

Marcus wrote:

> what about the rising incidence of

> >skin cancers ..... that ARE exposed to the sun.

Dr. Liberman, OD, in Light, Medicine of the Future, states categorically

that the super-majority of people with skin cancers are people with white skin

who work in artificial light, mostly flourescent, and who go out & get burned

every year. The people who lie out in the sun & turn brown every year have the

lowest incidence of skin cancer. This would indicate that UV is not the cause

of skin cancer.

jim

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December 17, 1998

> From: Jim Lambert <jim@...>

>

> Marcus wrote:

>

> > what about the rising incidence of

> > >skin cancers ..... that ARE exposed to the sun.

>

> Dr. Liberman, OD, in Light, Medicine of the Future, states

categorically that the super-majority of people with skin cancers are

people with white skin who work in artificial light, mostly

flourescent, and who go out & get burned every year. The people who

lie out in the sun & turn brown every year have the lowest incidence

of skin cancer. This would indicate that UV is not the cause of skin

cancer.

>

> jim

>

> hi Jim, I wrote the above and appreciate your response. it makes

perfect sense and can alleviate a lot of paranoia. re: sunglasses on

sheep in Chile, and panic runs on " sun block " stocks.

thank you, Nick

December 17, 1998

When I am forgetful about the amount of time I spend in the sun and my body

turns a bright red, I know that I will be facing extreme discomfort and a

night of fitful sleep. I have learned to collect my urine and rub it on all

over the sun-exposed area as soon as possible, two or three times before

bedtime. Invariably, the sting will go away, I will be able to sleep, there

will be no pain the next day, and no skin peeling four or five days later.

I have learned to turn this around, so that whenever it is possible, I apply

the urine before I expose myself to the sun, and it works to prevent the

sunburn in the first place. Without knowing what Tom has pointed out about

the detrimental properties sun tanning oils and lotions, I've always felt

uncomfortable about applying those agents on my skin.

I've also taken to wearing a hat whenever there is the possibility of too much

sun exposure.

Jack

December 17, 1998

Sheesh, isn't this a turn around from what the population has been

told. Sounds like the familiar thing one hears about all big

companies. No matter where you look it is all about capitalism,

before health.

Glenda

Re: skin cancer

>

>From: Jim Lambert <jim@...>

>

> Marcus wrote:

>

>> what about the rising incidence of

>> >skin cancers ..... that ARE exposed to the sun.

>

>Dr. Liberman, OD, in Light, Medicine of the Future, states

>categorically that the super-majority of people with skin cancers

are

>people with white skin who work in artificial light, mostly

flourescent,

>and who go out & get burned every year. The people who lie out in

the

>sun & turn brown every year have the lowest incidence of skin

cancer.

>This would indicate that UV is not the cause of skin cancer.

>

>jim

>

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>

> and Jim, I had read a few years ago in one of Sam Biser's

>Newsletters, that some researchers in Europe had found that there

had

>been NO incidences of Skin Cancer in Sheep-Herders down through the

>centuries! They also found that Skin Cancer had RARELY occured

until

>the ADVENT of of Sun-Tan lotions and Oils and then afterwards a very

>HIGH increase through the years afterwards, corresponding with

extensive

>use of them. Their studies found that the U-V rays reacted with the

>RANCID OILS in these products, thus promoting Skin Cancer!

>

>Tom/Psalms 150:6!

>

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May 31, 1999

At 12:42 31.05.99 -0000, you wrote:

> I have skin cancer. I have started taking Flax-seed oil and am preparing

to do a parasite cleanse,which will be followed by a liver cleanse.Can

anyome tell me what I can be putting directly on these shin leasions t help

heal them?

>Thanks,

>Marshall

>

>Zacksam@...

For putting directly on the skin leasions:

flaxseed oil

ozonated olive oil

ozonated water

ozone bath

ozone sauna

Hydrogen Peroxide H2O2 (food grade) 3% - 6%

Hydrogen Peroxide bath

wheat grass juice

juice or plaster made of vegetable (potato,kale, cabbage,...).

exstra virgine olive oil

dandalion leaves juice

.... many other remedies made from the plants

Do not mix any of these in the same time !

Avoid all kind of soaps.

Use chlorine filter when bathing/shower.

Do not eat any sweet fruit or any other sweet food. Skin cancer love sugar.

best, if you can live only on teas and vegetable juices.

Combine parasite cleanse with vegetable juice fasting and or tea fasting.

Rejuvelac fasting is also good.

One recipe for Rejuvelac liquid :

Ingredients:

1/2 cup wheat

6 cups spring or filtered water

Directions:

Select bad wheat grains. Wash wheat.

Soak wheatberries in a half-gallon jar, covered with cheese cloth or nylon

mesh screening, for 10-15 hours. Drain off water (do not rinse

wheatberries) and let wheat sprout for 2 days. After this time, pour water

over wheat sprouts (use about three times the amount of wheat sprouts.)

Cover jar and leave at room temperature for 24 hours. Then pour off liquid

Rejuvelac into another jar. Cover and refrigerate; it will keep for several

days in this way.

The wheat sprouts can be reused 2 more times to make addional Rejuvelac.

Start by pouring more water over sprouts, and proceed as described above.

For fuller-flavored Rejuvelac, you may use the following alternative

method. Grind 1-day-old wheat sprouts by lightly blending them with a

little water. Pour into a half-gallon jar, add remaining water, cover with

a piece of nylon mesh or cheesecloth, and let stand for 3 days. Rejuvelac

will be ready to use on the third day. It will have a pleasant smell and

slightly lemony flavor when it is ready; it can be stored in a covered jar

in the refrigerator for 2-3 days.

Ideally, however, Rejuvelac should be served at room temperature, and drink

fresh.

Dusan

Making Rejuvelac

From " The Blending Book " by Ann Wigmore

Preparation of Rejuvelac is simple, but it does take some time, so

it must be made in advance. You will need a clean, wide-mouth jar,

measuring one-half or one gallon; a piece of nylon mesh or cheesecloth; a

supply of soft wheatberries (spring wheat); and a strong rubberband.

Fill the jar one-fouth full of wheatberries. Cover the mouth of the

jar with nylon mesh or cheesecloth, and secure the mesh with a strong

rubber band. Add enough spring or filtered water to fill the jar. Allow the

wheatberries to soak for eight to ten hours, then drain them , rinse, and

drain again. Place the jar at an angle so the berries continously drain.

Make sure that the wheatberries do not completely cover the mouth of the

jar, because they will need ventilation. The wheatberries will start to

sprout. Rinse them about two or three times a day during the sprouting

stage. After two days, rinse the sprouted wheatberries thoroughly for the

last time. Drain off the rinsing water, fill the jar to the top with spring

or filtered water, and allow the sprouts to soak for forty-eight hours. At

the end of this time, this soaking liquid is your first batch of Rejuvelac.

Pour this off into another jar for immediate use or keep it in the

refridgerator to slow down the fermintaion process.

Refill the jar with the same amount of spring or filtered water to

make your second batch of Rejuvelac. but this time soak the sprouts for

only twenty-four hours. Pour off this second batch and refill the jar with

the same amount of spring or filtered water to make the final batch of

Rejuvelac. Again, soak the sprouts for only twenty-four hours. After you

have made three batches, feed the spent wheatberries to the birds.

Good Rejuvelac is a cloudy, slightly yellow liquid with a tart,

lemonade flavor. When it is fermented too long, it can become very sour.

Since it is constantly fermenting, it is natural that tiny bubbles rise

through the liquid occasionally. The very best Rejuvelac is in fact

slightly carbonated. It is also natural for a layer of white foam to form

on the top of the Rejuvelac. This is not harmful and can be used. Rejuvelac

can be kept in the refridgerator for a few days to a week, as long as the

taste is still agreeable with you. Drink Rejuvelac before or between meals

to avoid diluting the digestive juices after a meal.

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You can put flaxseed oil on your skin. My doctor recommends that women rub it

into babies' skin. Also, one time I melted a vitamin E capsule in the

microwave with about 1/4 teaspoon of water, then spread it on my face. My

skin was unbelievably soft while I did that. Don't know why I stopped.

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Marshall,

Dr. , in his newsletter " ALTERNATIVES for the Health

Conscious Individual " , recommends a product from Australia called Curaderm.

Try http://www.setarnet.aw/commercepage/curaderm/ or do a web search on

Curaderm.

Pat

skin cancer

I have skin cancer. I have started taking Flax-seed oil and am preparing to

do a parasite cleanse,which will be followed by a liver cleanse.Can anyome

tell me what I can be putting directly on these shin leasions t help heal

them?

Thanks,

Marshall

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If your skin cancer is superficial, then you might try Skin Answer:

http://www.lanelabs.com/

QUOTE from a letter:

One clinical trial in CA tested a group of patients with

13 keratoses,

12 basal cell carcinomas and

3 squamous cell carcinomas.

After 4 to 8 weeks of treatment, 27 out of 28 patients showed complete

recovery. And all post-treatment biopsies showed that cancer had

completely vanished.

UNQUOTE

If it involves LARGER LUMPS, try Cansema.

http://www.altcancer.com/cansema.htm

Joyce

On Mon, 31 May 1999 zacksam@... wrote:

> I have skin cancer. I have started taking Flax-seed oil and am preparing to

do a parasite cleanse,which will be followed by a liver cleanse.Can anyome tell

me what I can be putting directly on these shin leasions t help heal them?

> Thanks,

> Marshall

>

> Zacksam@...

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Why " KILL " it in the microwave???

Regards,

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from Atlanta, USA

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You can put flaxseed oil on your skin. My doctor recommends that women rub it

into babies' skin. Also, one time I melted a vitamin E capsule in the

microwave with about 1/4 teaspoon of water, then spread it on my face. My

skin was unbelievably soft while I did that. Don't know why I stopped.

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Also, the guy who does " Radiant Health " that I've posted about before, said that

it was known back in the 40's, I think, that hydrogenated oils would cause skin

cancer. He says dermatologist come up to him all the time and say " it's epidemic

and we don't know what's causing it " and he says " I do! " ....I mean, when you

think about it it makes sense......people in the old days didn't get skin cancer

have as much as we do and they were out farming in the sun all day with no

sunscreens, yet here we are, mostly in doors these days, with sunscreen, and

it's worse than ever....

> I don't live in an area where there are lyme disease ticks, but I always

> thought you were supposed to remain covered. Is that incorrect? It seems

> to me the best thing is still to try and stay out of the sun when the rays

> are strongest, be covered whenever you can. That would be best for both

> skin cancer and lyme disease. And do not assume that sunscreen protects you

> from cancer. It may well increase your chances of cancer by keeping you out

> in the damaging rays longer. Remember melanoma is rising, not falling and

> melanoma is the most serious form of " skin " cancer thought to be caused, at

> least in part, by sun exposure.

>

> Remember to always ask the question, " Who is paying for the research? " . Who

> else but the sunscreen companies have an incentive to do so?

>

> Also remember the sun is the way your body is supposed to get " vitamin " D.

> Not from pills, not from fortified milk. There are clearly health benefits

> to sun exposure, as long as it is not excessive. Pay attention to your

> skin, and it should give you the necessary information. If you live where it

> is really sunny, really hot, find ways to entertain your kids during the

> problem hours which do not involved direct sunlight. Shaded areas are good

> for that.

>

> And I guess if you are going to expose your children to long hours in the

> sun, recognize that you may be putting them at risk for skin cancer.

> Perhaps that is a risk you choose to take, but I think it is best to make an

> " informed choice " , whatever you do.

>

> I know this is not the party line - all the advice is to use sunscreen. But

> if sunscreen were working, I do not think we would be seeing these rises in

> skin cancer. And I realize there is a lag time - but sunscreen has been

> around for quite a long time now. Perhaps cancer rates will start dropping

> in the future, but until they do, better safe than sorry.

>

> I'm about to search the literature and pass on what I find to you. Sandy

> from Alaska

>

> http://www.findarticles.com/m0UMR/9_21/65714190/p1/article.jhtml

>

> Dermatology Times

>

> Skin cancer rates buck national trends of other cancers.

> Issue: Sept, 2000

>

> Washington, D.C. -- All-sites cancer rates appear to be dropping

> substantially in the United States, largely because Americans are eating

> better and smoking less.

>

> Incidence rates for melanoma, however, as well as for liver cancer and

> non-Hodgkin's lymphoma, continue to climb.

>

> These were the findings of two recent reports based largely on data from the

> NCI's Surveillance, Epidemiology, and End Results (SEER) program.

>

> According to the " Annual Report to the Nation on the Status of Cancer,

> 1973-1997, " which includes a special section on colorectal cancer, incidence

> rates for all cancers combined declined on average 0.8 percent per year

> between 1990 and 1997. For the same period, cancer mortality declined 0.8

> percent.

>

> Analysis of data related to melanoma, however, shows that while mortality

> rates from this disease have leveled off, incidence rates continue to rise.

> In particular, a report published in June entitled " Declining Cancer Rates

> in the 1990s, " authored by a group that included the University of Southern

> California/Norris Comprehensive Cancer Center's a McKean-Cowden, M.D.

> She stated that between 1991 and 1995, melanoma mortality rates declined 0.3

> percent while incidence rates grew by 3.8 percent.

>

> http://www.findarticles.com/m3231/6_29/54913246/p1/article.jhtml

>

> Not-so-sunny stats.

> Issue: June, 1999

>

> Facts and figures abound: Protecting your skin from the sun's damaging

> effects also protects you from skin cancer. Statistics show that skin cancer

> is growing phenomenally--partly due to depletion of the ozone layer and

> partly due to blase attitudes among sunbathers.

>

> Maybe you can't do much about the ozone layer, but you can educate your

> patients about sun-related risks. Make sure they know that no matter how

> slight, a suntan means skin damage.

>

> As summer approaches, share these other skin cancer facts with your

> patients:

>

> * One in five Americans will develop skin cancer in her lifetime.

>

> * Ninety percent of all skin cancers result from overexposure to sunlight.

>

> * More than 80% of skin cancers occur on the face, head, neck, and back of

> hands.

>

> * A baby born today is 2 times as likely to develop malignant melanoma as

> someone born a decade ago and 12 times as likely as someone born 50 years

> ago.

>

> * Malignant melanomas removed when they're less than 3/4 of a millimeter in

> thickness are nearly always curable.

>

> Source: The Skin Cancer Foundation, New York, N.Y.

>

> http://hscsyr.edu/home/uh2/HEALTH/comment/SHIELL.HTML

>

> Nonmelanoma Skin Cancer Rates on the Rise

> By D. Shiell, M.D.

>

> Health Information Home The incidence of basal cell and squamous cell

> carcinomas are rapidly on the increase. An estimated 500-750,000 new cases

> of basal cell carcinoma and 100-150,000 new cases of squamous cell carcinoma

> will be diagnosed this year. While basal cell carcinoma is very rarely a

> cause of death, it can cause significant damage to tissues and may require

> large surgical procedures if not diagnosed early. Squamous cell carcinoma on

> the other hand will claim the lives of 2,000-2,500 people this year.

> Nonmelonoma skin cancer is the most prevalent cancer among whites in the

> United States. When diagnosed early, the cure rates for these tumors are

> very high. However, some tumors can grow rapidly and become serious quickly.

> The majority of nonmelonoma skin cancers occur on the head and neck region,

> the areas that receive the most sun exposure. There is a large body of

> scientific literature supporting the fact that these tumors are primarily

> sun-induced. This is a combined effect of total cumulative sun exposure and

> the number of severe sunburns. Simply put, the more sun and the more

> sunburns the higher the risk. Because most of us receive 85 percent of our

> total sun exposure by the time we reach our early 20's, the use of

> sunscreens in childhood and adolescence is crucial to prevent skin cancer

> later in life.

> Another strong risk factor for the development of nonmelanoma skin cancer

> is to have already had one. As many as 50 percent of patients with a

> previous skin tumor will develop another within five years. Therefore close

> follow-up with a Dermatologist is crucial if a person has a history of skin

> cancer.

> Here in Central New York several important facts need to be kept in mind

> with each season. During the winter months, the snow reflects sunlight quite

> efficiently and can increase the risk of sunburn. In the spring and summer,

> the use of sunscreen is very important because most of us like to spend as

> much time outdoors as possible after the long winter. Always use a sunscreen

> with a sun protection factor (SPF) of 15 or higher and wear a hat and other

> protective clothing.

> Fortunately, the majority of nonmelanoma skin cancers are curable if

> detected early. If a person has a new growth or an old growth that has

> changed, they should consult a physician.

> (Dr. Shiell, a resident of ville, is an assistant professor of

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> Waterproof sunscreens

>

> Laurie,

>

> Aloe Vera,Glycerin,Octyl palmate,Carbomer 940,Stearic Acid, Glyceryl

> Stearate, PEG stearate, triethanolamine,Octylacrylamine Copolymer,Chamomile

> extract,Almond Oil, Allontoin(Comfry),Phcngenol,Kukui Nut Oil, Jojoba Oil,

> Propylene Glycol, Diasolidiny Urea,Methylparaben,Propylparaben,Tocopherol

> (Vit.E)

>

> Active ingredient: Titanium Dioxide,Octylmethoxycinnamate, Benzophenone-3

>

> And... I have also been known to use Bath and Body Works Bug Repelling

> Sunscreen Lotion

> Especially when we go camping and we want to avoid that West Nile and Lyme

> disease :~)

>

> We are out in the sun A LOT during this season, and I just do the best I

> can.

>

> ~le

>

> " Would you please list all ingredients?

> I am not a medical doctor,

> Laurie< Ohio "

>

May 24, 2001

In a message dated 5/24/01 3:24:09 AM GTB Daylight Time,

austins-mom@... writes:

<< was known back in the 40's, I think, that hydrogenated oils would cause

skin cancer. He says dermatologist come up to him all the time and say " it's

epidemic and we >>

I have a sore on my thigh that showed up a year ago.Fits the description of

BCC.Whether or not it really is cancer I will treat it as such since I can

not afford a biopsy.Before I knew better I was out in the sun a lot and I

also did use hydrogenated oils.I will probably have to have it cut out some

time soon.BTW I use Aubrey skin products on Nimet,and we try to avoid the sun

in the 10am-3pm hours.I make sure she gets some skin/sun exposure for the

vitD production.

Sara in ohio

May 24, 2001

I think that is kinda true also. I hate putting sunscreen on my

kids for the same reason. BUT my grandmother who never used

any of that and lived to the age of 99 had skin cancer on her face.

But... " I don't have time to worry about that she said " and just went

on with her life. The doctors were always calling her to come in and

finish her " treatments " and that is what she told them.

Petric

Hornell, NY

Waterproof sunscreens

> >

> > Laurie,

> >

> > Aloe Vera,Glycerin,Octyl palmate,Carbomer 940,Stearic Acid, Glyceryl

> > Stearate, PEG stearate, triethanolamine,Octylacrylamine

Copolymer,Chamomile

> > extract,Almond Oil, Allontoin(Comfry),Phcngenol,Kukui Nut Oil, Jojoba

Oil,

> > Propylene Glycol, Diasolidiny

Urea,Methylparaben,Propylparaben,Tocopherol

> > (Vit.E)

> >

> > Active ingredient: Titanium Dioxide,Octylmethoxycinnamate,

Benzophenone-3

> >

> > And... I have also been known to use Bath and Body Works Bug Repelling

> > Sunscreen Lotion

> > Especially when we go camping and we want to avoid that West Nile and

Lyme

> > disease :~)

> >

> > We are out in the sun A LOT during this season, and I just do the best I

> > can.

> >

> > ~le

> >

> > " Would you please list all ingredients?

> > I am not a medical doctor,

> > Laurie< Ohio "

> >

May 24, 2001

My grandmother died of starvation but was out all the time(had a wicked tan)

and she used olive oil before she went out! Used it at night also. She was

in her 70's...no cancer...

I am not a medical doctor,

nor do I portray one on t.v.

(but my husband,Mike,is!)

Laurie< Ohio

.. BUT my grandmother who never used

any of that and lived to the age of 99 had skin cancer on her face.

But... " I don't have time to worry about that she said " and just went

on with her life. The doctors were always calling her to come in and

finish her " treatments " and that is what she told them.

September 22, 2001

Hi Loren,

Wow, you sure said a mouthful! But wouldn't simple ozonated olive oil do

the same and be much easier? For age spots, I've heard progesterone ceam

will help. Don't know for sure; but on skin cancer, there's been lots that

have had success with OOO. Maybe it'd help with the age spots, too!

Gail

skin cancer

> A possible treatment for visible skin cancer is to soak it with an

> alkaline solution. Sang Wang told me that some of his customers told him

> they put his strongly alkaline solution on their skin cancers and the

> cancer shrunk or went away. I tried this on age spots on the back of my

> hand and it burned, the spots wrinkled, I brushed them out and it left

> clean white skin that was pock marked with holes thru the outer layer.

>

> These holes eventually formed scabs, and the scabs were replaced by

> bright pink skin, now after about a month turning to my skin's natural

> color.

> I believe, but have no proof, that one could do this without risk by

> making a bandage over a lesion to keep out air, and under that bandage

> on the cancer or tumor place wet cotton or gauze soaked in an ordinary

> baking soda solution. Like maybe a teaspoon in a teaspoon or two of

> water. Another way that MIGHT help is to use drugstore hydrogen peroxide

> in a similar bandage.

>

> Now this isn't going to have very much of an effect, but should have

> some. Cancers don't like alkali, and they don't like oxygen. Maybe you

> could combine them. I haven't tried that. This bicarbonate solution was

> not strong enough to attack my age spots.

>

> What I used was household lye, which is dangerous to handle. It did

> burn. If you are desperate and choose to do that, use a very small

> amount (2 or three pellets or small flakes and wear safety glasses) in a

> little water. Add water until a drop of it does not burn your skin. If

> it burns, just wash off. Lye is sodium hydroxide. Could cause severe eye

> damage if splashed. Make less than a teaspoonful of solution. That means

> no kids around and be very cautious.

>

> Sodium is one of the alkali metals, like potassium and cesium. Cesium

> has been used internally for cancer with some great success stories.

> There are products of alkali water and alkali generators on the market.

> However, I think that is unnecessary expense.

>

> If you should choose to take alkaline water internally, get some pH

> paper at the drug store and don't drink anything with a pH higher than

> about 8.5. Just plain baking soda measures 8.2 and that's what I use. It

> is a buffering solution which means it isn't going to get much above

> that no matter how much you put in. Do it on an empty stomach as it

> counteracts the natural hydrochloric acid in your stomach for a while. I

> take a teaspoonful in a big glass of water or less water and use plain

> water as a chaser.

>

> My PSA (prostate specific antigen) measured twice at different labs is

> 1.1. That is EXCELLENT, far below that of normal men without cancer. I

> am 75. I THINK it was the soda and taking magnesium and calcium that did

> it but I am not sure. Unfortunately I cannot find a prior record.

>

> I have just purchased an ozone generator utilizing an oxygen tank and

> will be using that in my experiments, perhaps with cancer patients. It

> can make ozonated water, but it can't be stored. Must be drunk right

> away. I firmly believe oxygen and alkalinization is the way to go. I

> will have the report on venous serum pH in a couple of days. I think

> that's the bottom line. Ideal is 7.46 so I read. What I'm searching for

> is a quick way to determine the efficacy of any alternative treatment

> within a very short time. But as always, what works for one may not work

> for another.

>

> Loren Parks

>

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September 22, 2001

Dear Loren,

I agree that cancer cells thrive in acidity and are inhibited

by alkalinity. Anything that works toward increasing pH will

be anti-cancer.

Better than the sodium bicarb or sodium hydroxide would be

ionic calcium, which is the body's main alkalinizer. Also,

calcium is the facilitator for entry of oxygen into the cell,

so another bonus for it.

Regarding ozonated water, it can be held indefinitely if you

freeze it. Use a plastic, enzyme-resistant container with about

2 " of room at the top for expansion.

Here's another question for you: why does water expand as it

freezes, when almost everything else contracts? The paradox of

water.

Best of Health!

Dr. Saul Pressman, DCh, LTOH

-----------------------------------------------------------

Reply-To: oxyplus

To: " oxyplus " <oxyplus >

Subject: skin cancer

Date: Sat, 22 Sep 2001 15:01:41 -0700

A possible treatment for visible skin cancer is to soak it with an

alkaline solution. Sang Wang told me that some of his customers told him

they put his strongly alkaline solution on their skin cancers and the

cancer shrunk or went away. I tried this on age spots on the back of my

hand and it burned, the spots wrinkled, I brushed them out and it left

clean white skin that was pock marked with holes thru the outer layer.

These holes eventually formed scabs, and the scabs were replaced by

bright pink skin, now after about a month turning to my skin's natural

color.

I believe, but have no proof, that one could do this without risk by

making a bandage over a lesion to keep out air, and under that bandage

on the cancer or tumor place wet cotton or gauze soaked in an ordinary

baking soda solution. Like maybe a teaspoon in a teaspoon or two of

water. Another way that MIGHT help is to use drugstore hydrogen peroxide

in a similar bandage.

Now this isn't going to have very much of an effect, but should have

some. Cancers don't like alkali, and they don't like oxygen. Maybe you

could combine them. I haven't tried that. This bicarbonate solution was

not strong enough to attack my age spots.

What I used was household lye, which is dangerous to handle. It did

burn. If you are desperate and choose to do that, use a very small

amount (2 or three pellets or small flakes and wear safety glasses) in a

little water. Add water until a drop of it does not burn your skin. If

it burns, just wash off. Lye is sodium hydroxide. Could cause severe eye

damage if splashed. Make less than a teaspoonful of solution. That means

no kids around and be very cautious.

Sodium is one of the alkali metals, like potassium and cesium. Cesium

has been used internally for cancer with some great success stories.

There are products of alkali water and alkali generators on the market.

However, I think that is unnecessary expense.

If you should choose to take alkaline water internally, get some pH

paper at the drug store and don't drink anything with a pH higher than

about 8.5. Just plain baking soda measures 8.2 and that's what I use. It

is a buffering solution which means it isn't going to get much above

that no matter how much you put in. Do it on an empty stomach as it

counteracts the natural hydrochloric acid in your stomach for a while. I

take a teaspoonful in a big glass of water or less water and use plain

water as a chaser.

My PSA (prostate specific antigen) measured twice at different labs is

1.1. That is EXCELLENT, far below that of normal men without cancer. I

am 75. I THINK it was the soda and taking magnesium and calcium that did

it but I am not sure. Unfortunately I cannot find a prior record.

I have just purchased an ozone generator utilizing an oxygen tank and

will be using that in my experiments, perhaps with cancer patients. It

can make ozonated water, but it can't be stored. Must be drunk right

away. I firmly believe oxygen and alkalinization is the way to go. I

will have the report on venous serum pH in a couple of days. I think

that's the bottom line. Ideal is 7.46 so I read. What I'm searching for

is a quick way to determine the efficacy of any alternative treatment

within a very short time. But as always, what works for one may not work

for another.

Loren Parks

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