Iodine Testing

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Your issues sound like adrenal related. When you have this happen try this:

2,000 mgs Vit C

1/2 Tsp Celtic Salt

400 mgs Magnesium

Take them all and then wait to see if it brings your heart rate down. Make sure you are drinking enough water too. When I first started all this I used to get racing heart rates on the drop of a dime. It was adrenal.

Iodine Testing

I have been supplementing with 12.5 mg of Iodoral for 2 months. I feel that I am benefiting from it, but have noticed that my heart rate has gone up quite a bit...usually about 120. I've always had a fast heart beat, but 120 is scaring me a little bit. I'm trying to cut way down on my caffeine since that has been a problem for me in the past. Hopefully that will slow my heart down a bit. I'd like to have a test done to see how much iodine I am excreting, but I don't want to do the loading test because I'm afraid taking that much iodine at one time will really cause my heart rate to jump. I've been looking for somewhere that will just test to see what your current excretion is without insisting on overloading with iodine. I don't see why that's necessary. Is there a "normal" level of iodine that is commonly found in a person that is NOT iodine deficient?

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I think she might also get relief from more iodine--sort of contrary to

expectations it might calm her system down to get " enough " .

Gracia

ladybugsandbees wrote:

>

> Your issues sound like adrenal related. When you have this happen try

> this:

> 2,000 mgs Vit C

> 1/2 Tsp Celtic Salt

> 400 mgs Magnesium

> Take them all and then wait to see if it brings your heart rate down.

> Make sure you are drinking enough water too. When I first started all

> this I used to get racing heart rates on the drop of a dime. It was

> adrenal.

>

>

> * Iodine Testing

>

> I have been supplementing with 12.5 mg of Iodoral for 2 months. I

> feel that I am benefiting from it, but have noticed that my heart

> rate has gone up quite a bit...usually about 120. I've always had

> a fast heart beat, but 120 is scaring me a little bit. I'm trying

> to cut way down on my caffeine since that has been a problem for

> me in the past. Hopefully that will slow my heart down a bit. I'd

> like to have a test done to see how much iodine I am excreting,

> but I don't want to do the loading test because I'm afraid taking

> that much iodine at one time will really cause my heart rate to

> jump. I've been looking for somewhere that will just test to see

> what your current excretion is without insisting on overloading

> with iodine. I don't see why that's necessary. Is there a " normal "

> level of iodine that is commonly found in a person that is NOT

> iodine deficient?

>

>

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I am pretty sure that www.hakalalabs.com will do the test for your - just call. Most have not done the test. If you do it add the bromide levels.

Steph

iodine testing

Just wondering if most of you have done a 24 hour urine test to find out if you're iodine deficient. After reading so much about iodine and having hashimotos, I'm wondering the chances I'm not deficient, especially if 72% of the world's population is iodine deficient. I'm in Canada so I don't know if the sites I've looked at for testing even ship to Canada. I'm wondering if my naturopath could test for it? Has anyone had it done from their naturopath?

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I am in So. Ca. and it was my Naturepath at the time who put me on iodine after testing. I would be shocked if you weren't iodine deficient! Don't know what Naturepaths in Canada can do. You can ask.

I haven't bothered to do another test. Nonie

> Just wondering if most of you have done a 24 hour urine test to find out if you're iodine deficient. After reading so much about iodine and having hashimotos, I'm wondering the chances I'm not deficient, especially if 72% of the world's population is iodine deficient. I'm in Canada so I don't know if the sites I've looked at for testing even ship to Canada. I'm wondering if my naturopath could test for it? Has anyone had it done from their naturopath?> > > > ------------------------------------> > All off topic posts should go to the IodineOT group IodineOT/> > > Commonly asked questions: http://tinyurl.com/yhnds5e

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From ZRT LabsIf this has already made it to the list, I apologize for the repeat. JDecember 14, 2010Following a significant amount of research and development, we are very pleased to introduce testing for iodine deficiency. This important test will be done in dried urine, which is a new, innovative, totally non-invasive technology that we have developed. With ZRT's simple dried urine test, it only requires a few minutes twice a day to collect urine on a filter strip, as opposed to the bulky 24-hour urine collections of the past.NameDescriptionIodine Profile (Urine)Detects iodine deficiency as a potential cause of health problems ranging from fatigue, brain fog, hypothyroidism and fibrocystic breasts. Comprehensive Iodine Thyroid Profile (Urine and Blood)Designed to evaluate iodine deficiency and its capacity to be utilized for thyroid hormone synthesis. Tests in this profile include urine: Iodine; and blood spot: Total T4, Thyroglobulin, TSH, fT3, fT4, TPO We will be offering these tests on the OAW website soon. Be WellDr.L

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I would love to know too. This sounds wonderful!

Glowing, grace~This is GREAT!Will you post this when you actually have the test to offer? I'd like a reminder please.Amy>> From ZRT Labs> > If this has already made it to the list, I apologize for the repeat. :-)> > December 14, 2010> Following a significant amount of research and development, we are very> pleased to introduce testing for iodine deficiency. This important test will> be done in dried urine, which is a new, innovative, totally non-invasive> technology that we have developed. With ZRT's simple dried urine test, it> only requires a few minutes twice a day to collect urine on a filter strip,> as opposed to the bulky 24-hour urine collections of the past.> > Name> Description> > > Iodine Profile (Urine)> Detects iodine deficiency as a potential cause of health problems ranging> from fatigue, brain fog, hypothyroidism and fibrocystic breasts.> > > Comprehensive Iodine Thyroid Profile (Urine and Blood)> Designed to evaluate iodine deficiency and its capacity to be utilized for> thyroid hormone synthesis. Tests in this profile include urine: Iodine; and> blood spot: Total T4, Thyroglobulin, TSH, fT3, fT4, TPO> > > > We will be offering these tests on the OAW website soon.> > Be Well> Dr.L

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This is GREAT!

Will you post this when you actually have the test to offer? I'd like a

reminder please.

Amy

>

> From ZRT Labs

>

> If this has already made it to the list, I apologize for the repeat. :-)

>

> December 14, 2010

> Following a significant amount of research and development, we are very

> pleased to introduce testing for iodine deficiency. This important test will

> be done in dried urine, which is a new, innovative, totally non-invasive

> technology that we have developed. With ZRT's simple dried urine test, it

> only requires a few minutes twice a day to collect urine on a filter strip,

> as opposed to the bulky 24-hour urine collections of the past.

>

> Name

> Description

>

>

> Iodine Profile (Urine)

> Detects iodine deficiency as a potential cause of health problems ranging

> from fatigue, brain fog, hypothyroidism and fibrocystic breasts.

>

>

> Comprehensive Iodine Thyroid Profile (Urine and Blood)

> Designed to evaluate iodine deficiency and its capacity to be utilized for

> thyroid hormone synthesis. Tests in this profile include urine: Iodine; and

> blood spot: Total T4, Thyroglobulin, TSH, fT3, fT4, TPO

>

>

>

> We will be offering these tests on the OAW website soon.

>

> Be Well

> Dr.L

>

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Thank you, Ted, for posting your information. I think it is very important/timely because you have brought to light information that may not have been considered. Information to “chew on” if you will. I encourage the members of this list to be open, civil and not become defensive by taking sides as in “this worked for me” or “this didn’t work for me” somehow indicating that is the way it is with everyone. No one is running for office. Certainly there is nothing wrong with being cautious as long as one is not in attack mode while doing so. And hopefully, Ted, you will be available to answer questions. Most likely there will be many. Let’s also remember that just because Ted is offering new testing ideas/results doesn’t mean that we should expect him to know the answer to everything in order to be credible. The acceptance curve on something that is new/different can be tiny for most. As humans, we tend to not readily embrace new information – even when the information may indeed be factual. It can take a while to wrap our head around ideas that seem foreign. While the iodine docs have laid a blazing trail (groundwork), it will certainly need to be tweaked and built upon, and we should expect this. Good doctors know and accept this even though it may mean that someone improves upon their theory/teaching. We must be careful not to get “stuck” making it difficult to move forward. This doesn’t mean the foundational trail is wrong; instead it means that testing has the ability to become more accurate and thus more useable to the practitioner and client. It also means that some of our “thoughts” may need to change. When most everyone fails a particular test it SHOULD make a practitioner scratch their head and wonder if the test has accuracy concerns. In my opinion, to continually say that “it just proves that everyone is highly toxic in bromide and iodine deficient” may actually be the easy way out of needing to take a more microscopic look at the reason most people fail this test. Everyone is different and we know that outside influences can have a definite effect on the body and thus determining what shows or doesn’t show up on labs. These outside influences are not always offered by clients because they don’t think these outside factors can highly influence a lab test or can even determine whether or not a protocol will be successful. People that don’t have a thyroid, only have a partial thyroid or have a degenerative disease such as cancer will and should test different than those who have a thyroid that still functions at some level. Supplementation will always need to be in the therapeutic realm for these types of health concerns. There are a lot of variables and these need to be considered and understood. I believe that the body (because it is so amazing) is always able to come into balance (with the correct help and support). I welcome Ted’s research and theories and am glad that he is willing to share. So again, let’s not be too quick to judge, but instead ask questions – even the the difficult ones. This is how getting to the root of health concerns is done. Most importantly, this is how we learn. All possibilities need to be checked out and considered – no matter who is offering them. " Nearly 2500 years ago the Greeks had already realized that one of the most important of empirical facts is that correct explanations are nearly always simple explanations. There is a fragment (176) in Aeschylus, from the last play, that says so ('for the words of truth are simple').....This is also in line with the expressed belief of one of the great architects of modern nuclear physics the late Lord Rutherford, that if a theory is any good, it should be under­standable by an ordinary barmaid. " ---- T.L. Cleave (The Saccarine Disease 1974 p.iv)Be WellDr.L -----Original Message-----From: iodine [mailto:iodine ] On Behalf Of ZedSent: Wednesday, December 15, 2010 2:54 PMiodine Subject: Re: Iodine Testing Yes, I work for ZRT and I do almost all of the iodine research here. My name is Ted Zava and my father, Zava PhD, is the owner of ZRT. I have personally met Dr. Brownstein when he came into Portland for a visit. Yes, I have read his book, along with all the other iodine literature. I have spent the last two years developing a urine iodine test that measure iodine levels in urine dried on filter paper. The test launch was last week at the A4M World Anti-Aging Congress and Exposition. Dr. Zava lectured on iodine deficiency and explained the research I recently did on the inaccuracy of the loading test and the amount of iodine consumed by the Japanese (lower than 13mg). If you would like to see graphs from any of it, or the validation of the dried urine iodine test, you can either access the lecture online (I think it is available) or I can send/post graphs for the Iodine Group to see. I can also show my sources for Japanese iodine consumption from seaweed if you would like. Thirteen mg excretion was considered an outlier for most studies. One recent paper looks at over 100 studies on urine excretion and seaweed consumption by the Japanese since 1958 and claims the iodine consumption by Japanese is 1.2mg/day. The author was even Japanese, living in Tokyo. (http://www.liebertonline.com/doi/abs/10.1089/thy.2007.0379). Not all seaweed is equal, and it is wrong to assume that the gram amount consumed by the Japanese is ONLY kelp. Kelp iodine content even varies. I have been to sushi and checked my urine iodine levels over the next two days and found that drinking a glass of milk (depending on the source) provides more iodine than nori (~20-60ug/sheet) and wakame (~60-150ug/g) and fish. Boiling kelp removes much of the iodine (~90-99%), so unless you are making broth out of it (which most do for soups in Japan) you are getting much less iodine than expected. Almost every doctor (actually every doctor… and I talked to over 100 myself) agreed that the loading test needed to be modified because a 50mg loading dose doesn't come out in just 24hrs. One of the reasons VERY FEW, as in 2 of about 600 people, reach 90% (significantly, that is 100% failure). Many stopped giving their patients the loading test because everyone was failing, and people felt uncomfortable taking a 50mg dose. Because it takes longer for a loading dose to leave the system, a time of 4 days off iodine is needed before repeating the loading test. The test instructions say 24-48 hours. If you wait 24 hours to take the test, the dose leaving your system will be seen on top of the new 50mg dose, and 90% of the 50mg " dose " will be reached (my theory). Some labs doing the loading test don't include a spot test before to measure baseline iodine levels. I also showed the mg amounts of iodine that can be lost in sweat during a loading dose or just during exercise (Gatorade + athlete = iodine deficient. My next project) , have you reached 90%? I have been lurking and learning for the last two years on the Iodine Group. Most of my research has been based on the many posts made here. I believe that the entire body needs iodine. I do not believe that it needs 50mg daily. Yes, it will work for some people, but not everyone. I believe that a dose of somewhere between 1-6mg is appropriate, and that someone who is iodine deficient should start even lower and work their way up. Yes, 1-6mg will work for some people, but just like the 50mg does, not everyone. This is based on reviewing ALL literature and not just reading the publications on the optimox website. If anyone has questions about the new iodine-thyroid test ZRT is offering, you can learn more on our website. -Ted Zava

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Dr L - I love what you have written here and feel similarly. It is

wonderful to have a resource like Ted as part of the group.... and all

of this for the sake of helping educate more on iodine, make iodine

testing easier, etc. It will be interesting to continue to learn from

ZRT's experience as they collect test data.

- thanks to you for your continued diligence in supporting

this group, AND for your openess to consider what data Ted may have to

share. This will make for more education for all of us. I look forward

to continued learning from all on the group. There are lots of great

folks here contributing toward the common goal...better health through

nutrient balance...and in this case, iodine sufficiency.

Thanks for your generous spirit and sharing your time in the interest of

helping all of us further our knowledge and guide our experience with

iodine.

With great appreciation,

V - Rochester NY

>

> Thank you, Ted, for posting your information. I think it is very

> important/timely because you have brought to light information that

may not

> have been considered. Information to " chew on " if you will.

>

> I encourage the members of this list to be open, civil and not become

> defensive by taking sides as in " this worked for me " or " this didn't

work

> for me " somehow indicating that is the way it is with everyone. No one

is

> running for office. Certainly there is nothing wrong with being

cautious as

> long as one is not in attack mode while doing so. And hopefully, Ted,

you

> will be available to answer questions. Most likely there will be many.

> Let's also remember that just because Ted is offering new testing

> ideas/results doesn't mean that we should expect him to know the

answer to

> everything in order to be credible. The acceptance curve on something

that

> is new/different can be tiny for most. As humans, we tend to not

readily

> embrace new information - even when the information may indeed be

factual............................

>