Re: Cure hashimotos?

[Guest guest]

besides iodine,look at low dose naltrexone.some people reported less need of medication and lower antibodies

On Mon, Apr 12, 2010 at 3:13 PM, xtmtx2003 <xtmtx2003@...> wrote:

 

Have any of you been able to cure your thyroid condition like hashimotos by taking iodine? Or were you at least able to reduce your thyroid med dose?

[Guest guest]

All these supplements and things sound good when you read about them but has it

actually worked for people? I feel sick when I take a lot supplements and

actually feel better taking only 1 or 2 supplements.

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> besides iodine,look at low dose naltrexone.some people reported less need of

> medication and lower antibodies

[Guest guest]

how is your adrenaland liver

On Mon, Apr 12, 2010 at 5:15 PM, xtmtx2003 <xtmtx2003@...> wrote:

 

All these supplements and things sound good when you read about them but has it actually worked for people? I feel sick when I take a lot supplements and actually feel better taking only 1 or 2 supplements. >> besides iodine,look at low dose naltrexone.some people reported less need of

> medication and lower antibodies

[Guest guest]

I'm not sure if my adrenals are ok but here's my saliva cortisol test.

Cortisol saliva test

8:50am Morning 7.9 3.7-9.5

12:50pm Noon 2.0 1.2-3.0

5:05pm Evening 2.0 0.6-1.9 High

10:55pm Night 0.3 0.4-1.0 Low

Reverse T3: 100 90-350 pg/mL

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> how is your adrenaland liver

[Guest guest]

i am not anepert in these numbers,but it does not look too bad.

about your liver.

can you have a glass of red wine without a problem

On Mon, Apr 12, 2010 at 6:23 PM, xtmtx2003 <xtmtx2003@...> wrote:

 

I'm not sure if my adrenals are ok but here's my saliva cortisol test.Cortisol saliva test8:50am Morning 7.9 3.7-9.512:50pm Noon 2.0 1.2-3.05:05pm Evening 2.0 0.6-1.9 High10:55pm Night 0.3 0.4-1.0 Low

Reverse T3: 100 90-350 pg/mL >

> how is your adrenaland liver

[Guest guest]

I don't really drink. What would happen if I drank a glass of wine and my liver

was bad? What symptoms would I have?

[Guest guest]

if your liver is bad a glass of red wine will make you dizzy,drunk.

On Mon, Apr 12, 2010 at 7:02 PM, xtmtx2003 <xtmtx2003@...> wrote:

 

I don't really drink. What would happen if I drank a glass of wine and my liver was bad? What symptoms would I have?

[Guest guest]

Isn't it supposed to do that?

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> if your liver is bad a glass of red wine will make you dizzy,drunk.

[Guest guest]

some one with a good liver doesm not get dizzy drunk after one glass

 

 

On Mon, Apr 12, 2010 at 7:54 PM, xtmtx2003 <xtmtx2003@...> wrote:

 

Isn't it supposed to do that? >

> if your liver is bad a glass of red wine will make you dizzy,drunk.

[Guest guest]

I rarely drink, maybe half a glass to a glass two or three times a year and, if I was to drink a whole glass of wine I would feel a little tipsy but not drunk.   Not dizzy but I can definately feel the effects.   Is that okay?   I've just assumed I have little tolerance because I rarely drink. ???

On Tue, Apr 13, 2010 at 4:08 AM, ido zahavi <zahavi100@...> wrote:

 

some one with a good liver doesm not get dizzy drunk after one glass

 

 

On Mon, Apr 12, 2010 at 7:54 PM, xtmtx2003 <xtmtx2003@...> wrote:

 

Isn't it supposed to do that? >

> if your liver is bad a glass of red wine will make you dizzy,drunk.

[Guest guest]

you must see also with coffee.do you get a big push or you can just drink it.

 

This means that people who suffer from liver conditions are less likely to be consumers of coffee, as the consumption of the beverage may lead to adverse effects.

with medecines you must see if you need the full dose or you have enough with little bit.

all those are simple test to check the liver.

a good test is quite expensive

On Tue, Apr 13, 2010 at 2:26 PM, Cochrane <juliemc9@...> wrote:

 

I rarely drink, maybe half a glass to a glass two or three times a year and, if I was to drink a whole glass of wine I would feel a little tipsy but not drunk.   Not dizzy but I can definately feel the effects.   Is that okay?   I've just assumed I have little tolerance because I rarely drink. ???

On Tue, Apr 13, 2010 at 4:08 AM, ido zahavi <zahavi100@...> wrote:

 

some one with a good liver doesm not get dizzy drunk after one glass

 

 

On Mon, Apr 12, 2010 at 7:54 PM, xtmtx2003 <xtmtx2003@...> wrote:

 

Isn't it supposed to do that?

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> if your liver is bad a glass of red wine will make you dizzy,drunk.

[Guest guest]

I virtually cut out caffeine because it affects my sleep.   Just two to three cups of naturally low caffeine organic tea per day and very occasionally chocolate.   My liver function test was fine.

On Tue, Apr 13, 2010 at 10:33 PM, ido zahavi <zahavi100@...> wrote:

 

you must see also with coffee.do you get a big push or you can just drink it.

 

This means that people who suffer from liver conditions are less likely to be consumers of coffee, as the consumption of the beverage may lead to adverse effects.

with medecines you must see if you need the full dose or you have enough with little bit.

all those are simple test to check the liver.

a good test is quite expensive

[Guest guest]

the fact that you have cut caffeine proof it.the test that you did i do not think is relevant.

 

 

Tests that measure Phase I and Phase 2 enzymes take much of the guesswork out of estimating the severity of liver detoxification dysfunction, and can to some extent indicate whether a person is at special risk for cancer, neurological disease, chemical and drug sensitivity, and immune problems.

http://members.shaw.ca/duncancrow/liver_function.html

On Tue, Apr 13, 2010 at 2:42 PM, Cochrane <juliemc9@...> wrote:

 

I virtually cut out caffeine because it affects my sleep.   Just two to three cups of naturally low caffeine organic tea per day and very occasionally chocolate.   My liver function test was fine.

On Tue, Apr 13, 2010 at 10:33 PM, ido zahavi <zahavi100@...> wrote:

 

you must see also with coffee.do you get a big push or you can just drink it.

 

This means that people who suffer from liver conditions are less likely to be consumers of coffee, as the consumption of the beverage may lead to adverse effects.

with medecines you must see if you need the full dose or you have enough with little bit.

all those are simple test to check the liver.

a good test is quite expensive

[Guest guest]

Back to the original question please. Has anyone on this list been able to cure

their Hashimoto's condition?

[Guest guest]

Hey there, 's hunny got rid of his antibodies using the iodine

protocol. I ran across that link once and can't find it now. I have a doc

telling me that Shark Liver Oil also reduces antibodies as well.. it stabilizes

the immune system.

So, if anyone else hears this, will you pleas post the link for Steph's hunny's

story, please? and thank you.

Never Give Up! j

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> Back to the original question please. Has anyone on this list been able to

cure their Hashimoto's condition?

>

[Guest guest]

Yes, I saw that, and thanks for the shark liver oil tip. So that's one person.

Anyone else?

> 's hunny got rid of his antibodies using the iodine protocol. I have

a doc telling me that Shark Liver Oil also reduces antibodies as well.. it

stabilizes the immune system.

[Guest guest]

Can I optimistically jump in and say me? It's a bit premature, but hey.. j

> > 's hunny got rid of his antibodies using the iodine protocol. I

have a doc telling me that Shark Liver Oil also reduces antibodies as well.. it

stabilizes the immune system.

>

[Guest guest]

We were able to eliminate my daughter's antibodies and keep her thyroid levels normal by using iodine and a gluten/casein/soy free diet. Her antibody level was over 5000 at the start.LinnOn Apr 13, 2010, at 12:00 PM, porkerpie wrote:

Yes, I saw that, and thanks for the shark liver oil tip. So that's one person. Anyone else?

> 's hunny got rid of his antibodies using the iodine protocol. I have a doc telling me that Shark Liver Oil also reduces antibodies as well.. it stabilizes the immune system.

[Guest guest]

Thank you Linn! Did you start the diet change at the same time as the iodine?

How do you know which effort was effective? If both, any guess to the percent?

Do you think antibody levels can be reduced just by diet alone, just by iodine

alone, or are both necessary?

> > > 's hunny got rid of his antibodies using the iodine protocol. I

have a doc telling me that Shark Liver Oil also reduces antibodies as well.. it

stabilizes the immune system.

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> >

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[Guest guest]

there is much info about the relation between gluten and hashimoto and gluten and many others auto-immune

 

http://www.celiac.com/articles/1135/1/Connection-Found-between-Celiac-Disease-and-Hashimotos-Thyroiditis/Page1.html

On Tue, Apr 13, 2010 at 7:30 PM, porkerpie <joanhulvey@...> wrote:

 

Thank you Linn! Did you start the diet change at the same time as the iodine? How do you know which effort was effective? If both, any guess to the percent? Do you think antibody levels can be reduced just by diet alone, just by iodine alone, or are both necessary?

> > > 's hunny got rid of his antibodies using the iodine protocol. I have a doc telling me that Shark Liver Oil also reduces antibodies as well.. it stabilizes the immune system. > > > >

>

[Guest guest]

Interesting and good information, gluten/wheat etc is implicated in a lot of

different auto immunity conditions, and iodine definitely helps as well.

Different organs-areas can susceptible depending on the individual.

Bruce

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From: Linn

We were able to eliminate my daughter's antibodies and keep her thyroid levels

normal by using iodine and a gluten/casein/soy free diet. Her antibody level

was over 5000 at the start.

Linn

[Guest guest]

very helpful site - thanks!

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> there is much info about the relation between gluten and hashimoto and

> gluten and many others auto-immune

[Guest guest]

I have to say that I'm not at all convinced that people who are easily

intoxicated by a glass of wine or who have low tolerance for caffeine or

medications means that their liver is in bad shape. There's a missing link

here. People who never or rarely drink are far more susceptible to a glass

of wine, and might get quite dizzy after drinking it. In no way does this

implicate liver issues. Same with caffeine. And some individuals need

less of a given medication and some more, it has to do with individual

chemistry, which is actually very wide-ranging. I could see such a test

having validity with someone who had been ingesting a substance for a long

time, and whose tolerance for the substance changed radically, but it

cannot have validity for someone who doesn't indulge/ingest regularly and

therefore has no tolerance for it to start with. So I think that's the

missing link here.

The fact that individual chemistry is so wide-ranging is why no single diet

is good for all humans. Diet has to be tailored to the individual.

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At 07:42 AM 4/13/2010, you wrote:

>I virtually cut out caffeine because it affects my sleep. Just two to

>three cups of naturally low caffeine organic tea per day and very

>occasionally chocolate. My liver function test was fine.

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>On Tue, Apr 13, 2010 at 10:33 PM, ido zahavi

><<mailto:zahavi100@...>zahavi100@...> wrote:

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>you must see also with coffee.do you get a big push or you can just drink it.

>

>This means that people who suffer from liver conditions are less likely to

>be consumers of coffee, as the consumption of the beverage may lead to

>adverse effects.

>with medecines you must see if you need the full dose or you have enough

>with little bit.

>all those are simple test to check the liver.

>a good test is quite expensive

>

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[Guest guest]

i am telling from own experience of my wife.especially with the medecines.only when we did the treatment with ALA and other supplements for the liver then there was improvement in the function of the liver.

On Tue, Apr 13, 2010 at 8:08 PM, Baker <vbaker@...> wrote:

 

I have to say that I'm not at all convinced that people who are easily intoxicated by a glass of wine or who have low tolerance for caffeine or medications means that their liver is in bad shape. There's a missing link

here. People who never or rarely drink are far more susceptible to a glass of wine, and might get quite dizzy after drinking it. In no way does this implicate liver issues. Same with caffeine. And some individuals need

less of a given medication and some more, it has to do with individual chemistry, which is actually very wide-ranging. I could see such a test having validity with someone who had been ingesting a substance for a long

time, and whose tolerance for the substance changed radically, but it cannot have validity for someone who doesn't indulge/ingest regularly and therefore has no tolerance for it to start with. So I think that's the

missing link here.The fact that individual chemistry is so wide-ranging is why no single diet is good for all humans. Diet has to be tailored to the individual.--At 07:42 AM 4/13/2010, you wrote:

>I virtually cut out caffeine because it affects my sleep. Just two to >three cups of naturally low caffeine organic tea per day and very >occasionally chocolate. My liver function test was fine.>

>On Tue, Apr 13, 2010 at 10:33 PM, ido zahavi ><<mailto:zahavi100@...>zahavi100@...> wrote:

>>>you must see also with coffee.do you get a big push or you can just drink it.>>This means that people who suffer from liver conditions are less likely to >be consumers of coffee, as the consumption of the beverage may lead to

>adverse effects.>with medecines you must see if you need the full dose or you have enough >with little bit.>all those are simple test to check the liver.>a good test is quite expensive>

>>>>>>No virus found in this incoming message.>Checked by AVG - www.avg.com>Version: 9.0.801 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/2808 - Release Date: 04/13/10

>01:32:00~~~ There is no way to peace; peace is the way ~~~~--A.J. Muste

[Guest guest]

every one that used too much paracitamol ,i think in the us tylnol too long get his live destroyed.my wife had to use it daily until we found ldn and D-Phenylalanine.

On Tue, Apr 13, 2010 at 8:08 PM, Baker <vbaker@...> wrote:

 

I have to say that I'm not at all convinced that people who are easily intoxicated by a glass of wine or who have low tolerance for caffeine or medications means that their liver is in bad shape. There's a missing link

here. People who never or rarely drink are far more susceptible to a glass of wine, and might get quite dizzy after drinking it. In no way does this implicate liver issues. Same with caffeine. And some individuals need

less of a given medication and some more, it has to do with individual chemistry, which is actually very wide-ranging. I could see such a test having validity with someone who had been ingesting a substance for a long

time, and whose tolerance for the substance changed radically, but it cannot have validity for someone who doesn't indulge/ingest regularly and therefore has no tolerance for it to start with. So I think that's the

missing link here.The fact that individual chemistry is so wide-ranging is why no single diet is good for all humans. Diet has to be tailored to the individual.-- At 07:42 AM 4/13/2010, you wrote:>I virtually cut out caffeine because it affects my sleep. Just two to >three cups of naturally low caffeine organic tea per day and very >occasionally chocolate. My liver function test was fine.

>>On Tue, Apr 13, 2010 at 10:33 PM, ido zahavi

><<mailto:zahavi100@...>zahavi100@...> wrote:>>

>you must see also with coffee.do you get a big push or you can just drink it.>>This means that people who suffer from liver conditions are less likely to >be consumers of coffee, as the consumption of the beverage may lead to

>adverse effects.>with medecines you must see if you need the full dose or you have enough >with little bit.>all those are simple test to check the liver.>a good test is quite expensive>

>>>>>>No virus found in this incoming message.>Checked by AVG - www.avg.com>Version: 9.0.801 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/2808 - Release Date: 04/13/10

>01:32:00~~~ There is no way to peace; peace is the way ~~~~--A.J. Muste