Re:Weight Gain with Iodine

[Guest guest]

I don't think anything in the previous discussion said it was not temporary, to the contrary actually. I think though that it is in fact rare. Stress about the possibility of weight gain is more likely to cause a chemical reaction in the body that causes weight gain or inability to lose. If you are not having any issues at the current dose there is no reason to not to try a higher dose. Letting go of the worry and focusing thoughts on positive healing and visualization to remove that stress may be helpful.

Engtovo

Weight Gain with Iodine

Posted by: "lookonthebriteside" slehr05@... lookonthebriteside

Sun Jan 31, 2010 4:03 pm (PST)

Hello Everyone,I've been taking Lugol's for about ten days. I started with 12.5 mg and increased to 25 mg after a week. I've also been taking the companion supplements and at least 1.5 tsp of sea salt each day, which I was doing previously for my adrenals. Although I have noticed that I have been feeling better and have little in the way of detox symptoms, I also seem to notice some weight gain already. If this continues, it will take a huge toll on me emotionally, not to mention the thousands of dollars in clothing I will no longer be able to wear. Given previous discussions on weight gain and iodine, it seems that it is not temporary and cannot be overcome with diet and exercise. By the way, I've only been consuming about 1200 calories per day for months, so I certainly shouldn't be gaining weight.I was wondering if anyone has a knowledgeable opinion as to whether I might have more luck avoiding weight gain at a higher dosage of iodine? I'm also considering weaning off of the hydrocortisone I've been taking for adrenal fatigue, which has also caused me to gain weight. I've actually had a much better response and decrease in symptoms with the iodine than the hydrocortisone anyway. Any input on stopping hydrocortisone or anything I might be able to do to stop the weight gain would be appreciated.Sherry

[Guest guest]

Thanks Engtovo...The reason I assumed that weight gain was not a temporary

reaction to iodine supplementation is because, as I recall, has

experienced it recently, and she has been using iodine for several years.

I actually did have a good outlook about the prospect of weight gain with iodine

(thinking that it wouldn't happen to me, that is), up until yesterday. It's just

that reality has now set in.

Sherry

[Guest guest]

Don't go by me. I have many other issues that cause weight gain. I am actually down 25 lbs. Just stay away from sugar and grains and spend time on my new treadmill and it stays off. It's easier now that I have detoxed.

Steph

Re:Weight Gain with Iodine

Thanks Engtovo...The reason I assumed that weight gain was not a temporary reaction to iodine supplementation is because, as I recall, has experienced it recently, and she has been using iodine for several years.I actually did have a good outlook about the prospect of weight gain with iodine (thinking that it wouldn't happen to me, that is), up until yesterday. It's just that reality has now set in.Sherry

[Guest guest]

Thanks, Steph...I feel better about the longterm prospect of weight gain with

iodine after what you said about your other issues that contribute to it. I had

thought you said (about 2 weeks ago) that you couldn't lose the weight no matter

what you did, and I assumed that it was directly related to iodine. Thanks for

clearing it up.

Given that I'm not having much in the way of detox symptoms (just sporadic runny

nose), and the fact that I responded very quickly to iodine (alleviation of

fatigue, for example), would that indicate that I'm not very toxic?

Sherry

[Guest guest]

So, why didn't you stay at 50 mg? Why did you keep increasing after having

adverse affects? You needed to increase to fully detox?

If someone were feeling good at 50 mg, would it be unwise to just stay at 50 mg

and never increase?

Sherry

[Guest guest]

I was fighting cancer. My loading test with bromide levels remained low in iodine saturation and high in bromide. I love to push the limits and I am constantly testing things on my body. With Dr. Brownstein as a friend and doctor I am confident to push the limits because he supports me.

Re:Weight Gain with Iodine

So, why didn't you stay at 50 mg? Why did you keep increasing after having adverse affects? You needed to increase to fully detox?If someone were feeling good at 50 mg, would it be unwise to just stay at 50 mg and never increase?Sherry

[Guest guest]

It could indicate that your not very toxic, or that your detoxing pathways are very clear so your body can detox without any symptoms, or that you are still at a dose that is only releasing minimal toxins. That’s why it is so unique to each person. We are all doing it one day at a time LOL I think it may have been me who said I couldn't lose weight no matter what I did, but that was before the iodine. I am down 16 pounds so far though so that has changed with the iodine.

Engtovo

Weight Gain with Iodine

Posted by: "lookonthebriteside" slehr05@... lookonthebriteside

Sun Jan 31, 2010 7:22 pm (PST)

Thanks, Steph...I feel better about the longterm prospect of weight gain with iodine after what you said about your other issues that contribute to it. I had thought you said (about 2 weeks ago) that you couldn't lose the weight no matter what you did, and I assumed that it was directly related to iodine. Thanks for clearing it up.

Given that I'm not having much in the way of detox symptoms (just sporadic runny nose), and the fact that I responded very quickly to iodine (alleviation of fatigue, for example), would that indicate that I'm not very toxic?Sherry

[Guest guest]

Wow,thats not an easy thing to acheive! Just curious how you would make a sandwich without any type of bread?I have with filling and rolling up lettuce.Is this what you do?Do you ever eat a burger (buffalo only for me) without the bun?I tried going without and its a challenge.Just wondering for I've had a hard time?Do you feel all grains are not healthy?

iodine From: ladybugsandbees@...Date: Mon, 1 Feb 2010 12:28:56 -0500Subject: Re: Re:Weight Gain with Iodine

Yes I have been off them since 2005 when I had my last radiation.

Steph

Re:Weight Gain with Iodine

Thanks Engtovo...The reason I assumed that weight gain was not a temporary reaction to iodine supplementation is because, as I recall, has experienced it recently, and she has been using iodine for several years.I actually did have a good outlook about the prospect of weight gain with iodine (thinking that it wouldn't happen to me, that is), up until yesterday. It's just that reality has now set in.Sherry

[Guest guest]

But I do have bread! I bake a lot. My children and I are gluten free. I make cookies, cakes, scones, pancakes, waffles, breads, muffins and more..... It's not bad when you get the hang of it. There are many gluten free grains. Here is my blog with my creations http://glutenfreenaturally.blogspot.com/

Re:Weight Gain with Iodine

Thanks Engtovo...The reason I assumed that weight gain was not a temporary reaction to iodine supplementation is because, as I recall, has experienced it recently, and she has been using iodine for several years.I actually did have a good outlook about the prospect of weight gain with iodine (thinking that it wouldn't happen to me, that is), up until yesterday. It's just that reality has now set in.Sherry

[Guest guest]

Sorry .At the bottom of this email I asked if you stayed away from nongluten grains also?You emailed with a yes.I just wanted to know what your secret was because I have tried to stay away from all grains and it is tough.Thanks for the answer and the site.I do have a gluten,dairy,soy,nut free bread made by "Udi"s" but its made in Denver. Pat

iodine From: ladybugsandbees@...Date: Mon, 1 Feb 2010 15:57:37 -0500Subject: Re: Re:Weight Gain with Iodine

But I do have bread! I bake a lot. My children and I are gluten free. I make cookies, cakes, scones, pancakes, waffles, breads, muffins and more..... It's not bad when you get the hang of it. There are many gluten free grains. Here is my blog with my creations http://glutenfreenaturally.blogspot.com/

Re:Weight Gain with Iodine

Thanks Engtovo...The reason I assumed that weight gain was not a temporary reaction to iodine supplementation is because, as I recall, has experienced it recently, and she has been using iodine for several years.I actually did have a good outlook about the prospect of weight gain with iodine (thinking that it wouldn't happen to me, that is), up until yesterday. It's just that reality has now set in.Sherry

[Guest guest]

Sorry I missed that. No I do not stay away from them because they can be healthy. Teff is a very healthy grain along with sorghum, amaranth and more. You just need to work at it.

Steph

Re:Weight Gain with Iodine

Thanks Engtovo...The reason I assumed that weight gain was not a temporary reaction to iodine supplementation is because, as I recall, has experienced it recently, and she has been using iodine for several years.I actually did have a good outlook about the prospect of weight gain with iodine (thinking that it wouldn't happen to me, that is), up until yesterday. It's just that reality has now set in.Sherry

[Guest guest]

Thank you,I didn't want to become a problem grouper in any regard.LOL Have you tried quinoa pasta? It does have organic corn flour.any ideas on the corn flour,good or bad?

iodine From: ladybugsandbees@...Date: Mon, 1 Feb 2010 16:48:34 -0500Subject: Re: Re:Weight Gain with Iodine

Sorry I missed that. No I do not stay away from them because they can be healthy. Teff is a very healthy grain along with sorghum, amaranth and more. You just need to work at it.

Steph

Re:Weight Gain with Iodine

Thanks Engtovo...The reason I assumed that weight gain was not a temporary reaction to iodine supplementation is because, as I recall, has experienced it recently, and she has been using iodine for several years.I actually did have a good outlook about the prospect of weight gain with iodine (thinking that it wouldn't happen to me, that is), up until yesterday. It's just that reality has now set in.Sherry

[Guest guest]

I think most corn is gmo now. Plus corn is very fattening! I think I am going to have to get off all grains and see if I feel better. There are the non grains like quinoa.Nonie

Thank you,I didn't want to become a problem grouper in any regard.LOL Have you tried quinoa pasta? It does have organic corn flour.any ideas on the corn flour,good or bad?

[Guest guest]

It is yes, also, notice they feed corn and grain to cows to quickly fatten

them up for market.

And worse but thats another matter

When I fed my chickens too much corn they got fat...

Bruce

----- Original Message -----

From: Nonie

I think most corn is gmo now. Plus corn is very fattening! I think I am

going to have to get off all grains and see if I feel better. There are the

non grains like quinoa.

Nonie

[Guest guest]

yes and corn and wheat are stored in silos for long periods of time and become ridden with mold and fungus. check out knowthecause.com, very interesting site by Doug Kaufmann

Re: Re:Weight Gain with Iodine

It is yes, also, notice they feed corn and grain to cows to quickly fatten them up for market.And worse but thats another matterWhen I fed my chickens too much corn they got fat...Bruce----- Original Message ----- From: NonieI think most corn is gmo now. Plus corn is very fattening! I think I am going to have to get off all grains and see if I feel better. There are the non grains like quinoa.Nonie

[Guest guest]

How do you know you are taking the right amount for you? I'm doing this for

myself, my husband and three teen daughters - I have to educate them to let me

know what's going on (but I don't know what to educate them to look out for).

How would we know somebody is taking enough? Not enough? Too much?

I'm also curious how long you've been using iodine and how much you are taking.

Pamela

>

> It could indicate that your not very toxic, or that your detoxing pathways are

very clear so your body can detox without any symptoms, or that you are still at

a dose that is only releasing minimal toxins. That's why it is so unique to

each person. We are all doing it one day at a time LOL I think it may have

been me who said I couldn't lose weight no matter what I did, but that was

before the iodine. I am down 16 pounds so far though so that has changed with

the iodine.

[Guest guest]

Interesting idea here

"Dieting over prolonged and extended periods can permanently reprogram the Thyroid into low gear. Now the rate at which you begin putting on weight is alarming (1 Kg / 2 lbs per month) and you think you have a Thyroid Problem. Little realizing that you might have created it with your "Superior Intellect". So you go and get your T3, T4 and TSH levels checked and satisfy yourself that nature has indeed bestowed a Thyroid Problem in your life. Now you think you were Smart in the first place to have suspected you have a Thyroid Problem and the tests have "proved" you right.

The truth of the matter is that your "Superior Intellect" inflicted Hypothyroidism in your life. The deeper truth is that you don't have a Thyroid malfunction but a Protein Deficiency. So much for your T3, T4 and TSH Test Report and our ability to interpret it and correct the situation. The truth of the matter is that your body does not have adequate reserves of Proteins and Nitrogen to produce its own Amino Acids like Tyrosine and other Essential and Non Essential Amino Acids. Remember, there are approximately 28 Amino Acids, that work synergistically together to keep the Body in balance.

From the above, it is now clear to you that, to decrease weight, you must begin to eat right. The trick to reducing weight is to actually increase food intake to normal levels, so that your Body has adequate levels of Proteins and Nitrogen reserves, to increase your Rate of Metabolism."

http://www.space-age.com/hypothyroidism.html

Bruce

Re: Re:Weight Gain with Iodine

It is yes, also, notice they feed corn and grain to cows to quickly fatten them up for market.And worse but thats another matterWhen I fed my chickens too much corn they got fat...Bruce----- Original Message ----- From: NonieI think most corn is gmo now. Plus corn is very fattening! I think I am going to have to get off all grains and see if I feel better. There are the non grains like quinoa.Nonie

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 2/2/2010 5:11:37 P.M. Romance Standard Time, bruce@... writes:

One of his articles I included a quote to mentions tyrosine as a thyroid test, if it raises basal temp, one has an amino acid deficiencyas it indicates the thyroid doesn't have what it needs, not a thyroid "problem". Adding tyrosine is not the answer.

Bruce --

If it is not L-Tyrosine, does he give the answer to amino acid deficiency? What to take?

Fibrojay

[Guest guest]

If one looks at things with an open mind one may learn something, however

small.

When one doesn't, one learns nothing.

Miss the point?

Bruce

Re: Re:Weight Gain with Iodine

It is yes, also, notice they feed corn and grain to cows to quickly fatten

them up for market.

And worse but thats another matter

When I fed my chickens too much corn they got fat...

Bruce

----- Original Message -----

From: Nonie

I think most corn is gmo now. Plus corn is very fattening! I think I am

going to have to get off all grains and see if I feel better. There are the

non grains like quinoa.

Nonie

[Guest guest]

I did not say that right sorry.

Darn email! lol

What you said is what doctors used to do, and should do now.

Patient oriented

thanks

Bruce

----- Original Message -----

From: david kenna

Bruce,

Interesting as far as it goes.

Have you noticed that no one gives the whole story?

Personal accounts dealing with health issues often

leave out important aspects.

Taking a personal history one must be aware of this

by prompting with " is there anything else you may think

is relevant " ?

Even with that caveat a little later in a session an

important but previously unmentioned fact will come

up and the person will say something like " I didn't

think that was important " , or relevant.

But that fact may be central in understanding what

is going on.

Having the above in mind allows one to be open to

a broader understanding which may bring about

an earlier resolution to a problem.

[Guest guest]

I think most all nonorganic grains have been modified in some way.Teff,quinoa,millet,amarath are all nongluten but still have a lot of calories that cause weight gain.I have trouble with them and try to not eat too many although it's really hard to have a satisfing meal without them.I try to eat more protein as I find I can easily eat too many carbs. and gain the pounds.Pat

iodine From: nmsammy@...Date: Mon, 1 Feb 2010 22:23:58 -0800Subject: RE: Re:Weight Gain with Iodine

I think most corn is gmo now. Plus corn is very fattening! I think I am going to have to get off all grains and see if I feel better. There are the non grains like quinoa.Nonie

Thank you,I didn't want to become a problem grouper in any regard.LOL Have you tried quinoa pasta? It does have organic corn flour.any ideas on the corn flour,good or bad?

[Guest guest]

Your right about the corn being fattening.I found the perfect eating plan and dieting is never easy.There are too many tasty foods on the market that are totally unfood products and are causing us to be nutritionally deficient.We are starving ourselves of nutrients.Dr.Rosedale author of"The Rosedale Diet" explains how to turn off the hunger switch.Like anything,it's sticking to it and not to going back the bad ways of eating as we were taught as children.IAds were run in 1937 stating to have a cigareete between every course of your meal to aid in digestion and ads for eating sugar were ran in the fifties to eat more sugar to lose weight! Propaganda still lives and old habits die hard. Pat

iodine From: bruce@...Date: Tue, 2 Feb 2010 01:28:15 -0500Subject: Re: Re:Weight Gain with Iodine

It is yes, also, notice they feed corn and grain to cows to quickly fatten them up for market.And worse but thats another matterWhen I fed my chickens too much corn they got fat...Bruce----- Original Message ----- From: NonieI think most corn is gmo now. Plus corn is very fattening! I think I am going to have to get off all grains and see if I feel better. There are the non grains like quinoa.Nonie

[Guest guest]

Not to mention rat and mice droppings.

iodine From: kathleenblake@...Date: Mon, 1 Feb 2010 23:39:05 -0700Subject: Re: Re:Weight Gain with Iodine

yes and corn and wheat are stored in silos for long periods of time and become ridden with mold and fungus. check out knowthecause.com, very interesting site by Doug Kaufmann

Re: Re:Weight Gain with Iodine

It is yes, also, notice they feed corn and grain to cows to quickly fatten them up for market.And worse but thats another matterWhen I fed my chickens too much corn they got fat...Bruce----- Original Message ----- From: NonieI think most corn is gmo now. Plus corn is very fattening! I think I am going to have to get off all grains and see if I feel better. There are the non grains like quinoa.Nonie

[Guest guest]

I also read where Canada has GMOed wheat to the point where it used to have 5% gluten and now has 55% gluten.What do you bet we have the same wheat?We're gumming ourselves up,no wonder celiac and gluten intolerance is on the rise.What once was perfect,man has taken it and changed it only for profit.

iodine From: kathleenblake@...Date: Mon, 1 Feb 2010 23:39:05 -0700Subject: Re: Re:Weight Gain with Iodine

yes and corn and wheat are stored in silos for long periods of time and become ridden with mold and fungus. check out knowthecause.com, very interesting site by Doug Kaufmann

Re: Re:Weight Gain with Iodine

It is yes, also, notice they feed corn and grain to cows to quickly fatten them up for market.And worse but thats another matterWhen I fed my chickens too much corn they got fat...Bruce----- Original Message ----- From: NonieI think most corn is gmo now. Plus corn is very fattening! I think I am going to have to get off all grains and see if I feel better. There are the non grains like quinoa.Nonie

[Guest guest]

Dr Rosedale, I posted several of his quotes earlier that were vital to

understanding a number of things.

http://www.drrosedale.com/rosedale_writing.htm

If one was to read al the above articles with an open mind, one can learn an

immense amount of helpful info.

His diet looks good as well.

Originally I got into this to show one cannot blame iodine for weight gain

lol

A bit off topic, but perhaps related as per below.

One of his articles I included a quote to mentions tyrosine as a thyroid

test, if it raises basal temp, one has an amino acid deficiency

as it indicates the thyroid doesn't have what it needs, not a thyroid

" problem " . Adding tyrosine is not the answer.

Bruce

----- Original Message -----

From: KENNETH GENTILE

Your right about the corn being fattening.I found the perfect eating plan

and dieting is never easy.There are too many tasty foods on the market that

are totally unfood products and are causing us to be nutritionally

deficient.We are starving ourselves of nutrients.Dr.Rosedale author of " The

Rosedale Diet " explains how to turn off the hunger switch.Like anything,it's

sticking to it and not to going back the bad ways of eating as we were

taught as children.IAds were run in 1937 stating to have a cigareete between

every course of your meal to aid in digestion and ads for eating sugar were

ran in the fifties to eat more sugar to lose weight! Propaganda still lives

and old habits die hard. Pat