Re: Major anxiety - question for

[Guest guest]

The magnesium is a good idea. I was taking

pretty much (could have been causing loose bowels) , but I wasn’t taking glycinate.

I should try that.

As far as the adrenals, everything seemed to

come back fine on my saliva test except for progesterone being quite low (which

could also explain the infertility problems). My ND was concerned though about Cortisol

“possibly” stealing from the progesterone to make up for it. The cortisol

came back fine, but she was a little suspicious she told me. Steph, have you

heard of that? She does want me to go on something for the cortisol to be

certain it is fine. It is the Isocort. I did read on a previous

post awhile back that someone had good results with it.

Lori

Re: Major

anxiety

When iodine gives you intense symptoms, it is because

you are not taking the companion nutrients. You need the other nutrients; you

can't take iodine alone. The worse your detox symptoms, the more you need

iodine & all the other nutrients.

Anne

On Mar 15, 2011, at

6:43 AM, Parashis wrote:

Hi all,

I saw this on a thread but didn't follow because I haven't taken iodine for

awhile and didn't feel the effects but now remember why I stopped. Anxiety.

Because of the fallout threat I began painting Lugol's 5% over my thyroid.

Don't take the supps that go with it as I cannot afford.

After 2 or 3 days I thought I was going out of my mind. Even told a client I

needed Xanex (is that a major drug?)

Figured out it was the iodine and drank a double dose of chocolate powdered

drink mix and a piece of cholcolate on a receptionist's dest. Helped. Went home

after work feeling a little better but had a glass of wine. Sorry I did that as

wine makes me depressed.

Does anyone else have these symptoms? I'm hypothryoid so this seems strange to

me. Why should I feel so bad? It was as though my mind had no liquid between

the folds so the raw electrical impulses scraped along. My son wanted be to

check into a hospital. NO!

Any insight?

[Guest guest]

No I am not familiar with that. I took Biotics Research Cytozyme AD when I had adrenal issues. It worked well for me.

Buist, ND

RE: Major anxiety - question for

The magnesium is a good idea. I was taking pretty much (could have been causing loose bowels) , but I wasn’t taking glycinate. I should try that.

As far as the adrenals, everything seemed to come back fine on my saliva test except for progesterone being quite low (which could also explain the infertility problems). My ND was concerned though about Cortisol “possibly” stealing from the progesterone to make up for it. The cortisol came back fine, but she was a little suspicious she told me. Steph, have you heard of that? She does want me to go on something for the cortisol to be certain it is fine. It is the Isocort. I did read on a previous post awhile back that someone had good results with it.

Lori

-----Original Message-----From: Teel [mailto:caalde@...] Sent: Tuesday, March 15, 2011 2:53 PMiodine Subject: Re: Major anxiety

Have you have any look at adrenal fatigue??? It makes a huge difference in anxiety, and other symptoms that can be run by various hormones of the body. Magnesium is a huge help for calming and the mag glycinate that stephanie recommends works much better for me for higher doses.On 3/15/2011 11:00 AM, Lori@... wrote:

Hi Anne,

I was taking all my companion nutrients and at higher dosages of iodine and I was experiencing the same thing mentioned. I felt really awful from anxiety about a half hour to hour after taking iodine. Even my husband noticed such a difference. My body reacts to medications the same way. I could never take cold medications for that reason. Could it just affect me differently? I know each individual has a different make up and it could be that some are more sensitive possibly such as myself. I will just start out again at a lower dosage and see how I feel.

Lori

-----Original Message-----From: Anne Seals [mailto:anneseals@...] Sent: Tuesday, March 15, 2011 1:59 PMiodine Subject: Re: Major anxiety

When iodine gives you intense symptoms, it is because you are not taking the companion nutrients. You need the other nutrients; you can't take iodine alone. The worse your detox symptoms, the more you need iodine & all the other nutrients.

Anne

On Mar 15, 2011, at 6:43 AM, Parashis wrote:

Hi all,I saw this on a thread but didn't follow because I haven't taken iodine for awhile and didn't feel the effects but now remember why I stopped. Anxiety.Because of the fallout threat I began painting Lugol's 5% over my thyroid. Don't take the supps that go with it as I cannot afford.After 2 or 3 days I thought I was going out of my mind. Even told a client I needed Xanex (is that a major drug?)Figured out it was the iodine and drank a double dose of chocolate powdered drink mix and a piece of cholcolate on a receptionist's dest. Helped. Went home after work feeling a little better but had a glass of wine. Sorry I did that as wine makes me depressed. Does anyone else have these symptoms? I'm hypothryoid so this seems strange to me. Why should I feel so bad? It was as though my mind had no liquid between the folds so the raw electrical impulses scraped along. My son wanted be to check into a hospital. NO!Any insight?

[Guest guest]

I've taken Isocort, it works well.LinnOn Mar 15, 2011, at 3:09 PM, ladybugsandbees wrote:

No I am not familiar with that. I took Biotics Research Cytozyme AD when I had adrenal issues. It worked well for me.

Buist, ND

RE: Major anxiety - question for

The magnesium is a good idea. I was taking pretty much (could have been causing loose bowels) , but I wasn’t taking glycinate. I should try that. As far as the adrenals, everything seemed to come back fine on my saliva test except for progesterone being quite low (which could also explain the infertility problems). My ND was concerned though about Cortisol “possibly” stealing from the progesterone to make up for it. The cortisol came back fine, but she was a little suspicious she told me. Steph, have you heard of that? She does want me to go on something for the cortisol to be certain it is fine. It is the Isocort. I did read on a previous post awhile back that someone had good results with it. Lori

-----Original Message-----From: Teel [mailto:caalde@...] Sent: Tuesday, March 15, 2011 2:53 PMiodine Subject: Re: Major anxiety

Have you have any look at adrenal fatigue??? It makes a huge difference in anxiety, and other symptoms that can be run by various hormones of the body. Magnesium is a huge help for calming and the mag glycinate that stephanie recommends works much better for me for higher doses.On 3/15/2011 11:00 AM, Lori@... wrote:

Hi Anne, I was taking all my companion nutrients and at higher dosages of iodine and I was experiencing the same thing mentioned. I felt really awful from anxiety about a half hour to hour after taking iodine. Even my husband noticed such a difference. My body reacts to medications the same way. I could never take cold medications for that reason. Could it just affect me differently? I know each individual has a different make up and it could be that some are more sensitive possibly such as myself. I will just start out again at a lower dosage and see how I feel. Lori

-----Original Message-----From: Anne Seals [mailto:anneseals@...] Sent: Tuesday, March 15, 2011 1:59 PMiodine Subject: Re: Major anxiety

When iodine gives you intense symptoms, it is because you are not taking the companion nutrients. You need the other nutrients; you can't take iodine alone. The worse your detox symptoms, the more you need iodine & all the other nutrients.

Anne

On Mar 15, 2011, at 6:43 AM, Parashis wrote:

Hi all,I saw this on a thread but didn't follow because I haven't taken iodine for awhile and didn't feel the effects but now remember why I stopped. Anxiety.Because of the fallout threat I began painting Lugol's 5% over my thyroid. Don't take the supps that go with it as I cannot afford.After 2 or 3 days I thought I was going out of my mind. Even told a client I needed Xanex (is that a major drug?)Figured out it was the iodine and drank a double dose of chocolate powdered drink mix and a piece of cholcolate on a receptionist's dest. Helped. Went home after work feeling a little better but had a glass of wine. Sorry I did that as wine makes me depressed. Does anyone else have these symptoms? I'm hypothryoid so this seems strange to me. Why should I feel so bad? It was as though my mind had no liquid between the folds so the raw electrical impulses scraped along. My son wanted be to check into a hospital. NO!Any insight?

[Guest guest]

I will look into that one as well.

Thank you !

Lori

Re: Major

anxiety - question for

No I am not familiar with that. I took Biotics Research

Cytozyme AD when I had adrenal issues. It worked well for me.

Buist, ND

Re: Major

anxiety

When iodine gives you intense symptoms, it is because

you are not taking the companion nutrients. You need the other nutrients; you

can't take iodine alone. The worse your detox symptoms, the more you need

iodine & all the other nutrients.

Anne

On Mar 15, 2011, at 6:43 AM,

Parashis wrote:

Hi all,

I saw this on a thread but didn't follow because I haven't taken iodine for

awhile and didn't feel the effects but now remember why I stopped. Anxiety.

Because of the fallout threat I began painting Lugol's 5% over my thyroid.

Don't take the supps that go with it as I cannot afford.

After 2 or 3 days I thought I was going out of my mind. Even told a client I

needed Xanex (is that a major drug?)

Figured out it was the iodine and drank a double dose of chocolate powdered

drink mix and a piece of cholcolate on a receptionist's dest. Helped. Went home

after work feeling a little better but had a glass of wine. Sorry I did that as

wine makes me depressed.

Does anyone else have these symptoms? I'm hypothryoid so this seems strange to

me. Why should I feel so bad? It was as though my mind had no liquid between

the folds so the raw electrical impulses scraped along. My son wanted be to

check into a hospital. NO!

Any insight?

[Guest guest]

Perhaps talk to you doctor or do some looking into Pregnenolone which can help

support the adrenals as well as progesterone, etc... Pregnenolone Levels can be

tested via serum.

If interested in testing, magnesium is best tested intracellular - there is a

company called Intracellular Diagnostics that may be of interest to you.

http://www.exatest.com/

>

>

>

>

>

> Hi all,

>

> I saw this on a thread but didn't follow because I haven't taken iodine for

> awhile and didn't feel the effects but now remember why I stopped. Anxiety.

>

> Because of the fallout threat I began painting Lugol's 5% over my thyroid.

> Don't take the supps that go with it as I cannot afford.

>

> After 2 or 3 days I thought I was going out of my mind. Even told a client I

> needed Xanex (is that a major drug?)

>

> Figured out it was the iodine and drank a double dose of chocolate powdered

> drink mix and a piece of cholcolate on a receptionist's dest. Helped. Went

> home after work feeling a little better but had a glass of wine. Sorry I did

> that as wine makes me depressed.

>

> Does anyone else have these symptoms? I'm hypothryoid so this seems strange

> to me. Why should I feel so bad? It was as though my mind had no liquid

> between the folds so the raw electrical impulses scraped along. My son

> wanted be to check into a hospital. NO!

>

> Any insight?

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

My daughter is on Isocort and it works fine. The main difference

between it and adrenal glandulars is that the glandulars have some

natural adrenaline in them that if you are adrenal fatigue you may

not want. It can hype you up just a tad, even though you are trying

to settle down and heal the adrenals. Isocort is not supposed to do

that.

I am trying to remember if the Adrenals gal explained that if the

body is low in cortisol in beginning adrenal fatigue, that it can

rob the progesterone to turn into cortisol so you would end up low

progesterone... I think that was it. If you supplemented the

cortisol for a time, your body would not use up all the progesterone

and would build the ability to build up its own cortisol levels.

My daughter and I are finding a lot of help with a few extra

vitamins: spray Vit. b12, needed Vit. D, extra iron, Pantothenic

acid, and a b- 50 or 100 complex. These feed the adrenals while you

use the iodine and supplements to feed the thyroid. It has really

helped my brain fog, and being unable to get up and move in the

morning. But I am waiting some tests to have confirmation.

On 3/15/2011 1:05 PM, Lori@... wrote:

The magnesium is a good idea. I

was taking

pretty much (could have been causing loose bowels) ,

but I wasn’t taking glycinate.

I should try that.

As far as the adrenals,

everything seemed to

come back fine on my saliva test except for

progesterone being quite low (which

could also explain the infertility problems). My ND

was concerned though about Cortisol

“possibly” stealing from the progesterone to make up

for it. The cortisol

came back fine, but she was a little suspicious she

told me. Steph, have you

heard of that? She does want me to go on something

for the cortisol to be

certain it is fine. It is the Isocort. I did read

on a previous

post awhile back that someone had good results with

it.

Lori

-----Original

Message-----

From:

Teel

[mailto:caalde@...]

Sent:

Tuesday, March 15, 2011 2:53

PM

iodine

Subject:

Re: Major

anxiety

Have you have any

look at adrenal

fatigue??? It makes a huge difference in

anxiety, and other

symptoms that can be run by various hormones

of the body. Magnesium is a

huge help for calming and the mag glycinate

that stephanie recommends works

much better for me for higher doses.

On 3/15/2011 11:00 AM, Lori@...

wrote:

Hi Anne,

I was taking all my

companion nutrients and at higher

dosages of iodine and I was experiencing

the

same thing mentioned. I felt

really awful from anxiety about a

half hour to hour after taking iodine.

Even my husband noticed such a

difference. My body reacts to

medications the same way. I could never

take cold

medications for that reason. Could it

just affect me differently? I know each

individual has a different make up and

it could be that some are more sensitive

possibly such as myself. I will just

start out again at a lower dosage and

see

how I feel.

Lori

-----Original

Message-----

From:

Anne Seals [mailto:anneseals@...]

Sent:

Tuesday, March 15, 2011 1:59

PM

To:

iodine

Subject:

Re: Major

anxiety

When

iodine gives you intense

symptoms, it is because

you are not taking the companion

nutrients. You need the other

nutrients; you

can't take iodine alone. The

worse your detox symptoms, the

more you need

iodine & all the other

nutrients.

Anne

On

Mar 15, 2011, at

6:43 AM, Parashis

wrote:

Hi all,

I saw this on a thread but

didn't follow because I

haven't taken iodine for

awhile and didn't feel the

effects but now remember why I

stopped. Anxiety.

Because of the fallout threat

I began painting Lugol's 5%

over my thyroid.

Don't take the supps that go

with it as I cannot afford.

After 2 or 3 days I thought I

was going out of my mind. Even

told a client I

needed Xanex (is that a major

drug?)

Figured out it was the iodine

and drank a double dose of

chocolate powdered

drink mix and a piece of

cholcolate on a receptionist's

dest. Helped. Went home

after work feeling a little

better but had a glass of

wine. Sorry I did that as

wine makes me depressed.

Does anyone else have these

symptoms? I'm hypothryoid so

this seems strange to

me. Why should I feel so bad?

It was as though my mind had

no liquid between

the folds so the raw

electrical impulses scraped

along. My son wanted be to

check into a hospital. NO!

Any insight?

[Guest guest]

I just read an article I found intriguing that lays out the " OAT "

(ovary/adrenal/thyroid) axis imbalance. The gist of it is that many of us have

adrenal fatigue, but we treat the thyroid and ovaries. When we don't treat the

adrenal first, the thryoid meds (and iodine and some companion neutrients)jazz

us up while our bodies are ratcheting down due to the adrenal fatigue.

I definitely have issues taking the iodine (and I LOVE it) as I start to see all

kinds of exacerbated hypo symptoms and get really bad kidney/adrenal discomfort

and cramping. I can only attribute it to when I take iodine as when I stop, I

feel better.

What the article wasn't really clear on, and maybe because there is no clear

solution, is how to really treat the adrenals.

Here's the article:

http://www.drlam.com/articles/ovarian_adrenal_thyroid.asp?page=1

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > Hi all,

> >

> > I saw this on a thread but didn't follow because I haven't taken iodine for

> > awhile and didn't feel the effects but now remember why I stopped. Anxiety.

> >

> > Because of the fallout threat I began painting Lugol's 5% over my thyroid.

> > Don't take the supps that go with it as I cannot afford.

> >

> > After 2 or 3 days I thought I was going out of my mind. Even told a client I

> > needed Xanex (is that a major drug?)

> >

> > Figured out it was the iodine and drank a double dose of chocolate powdered

> > drink mix and a piece of cholcolate on a receptionist's dest. Helped. Went

> > home after work feeling a little better but had a glass of wine. Sorry I did

> > that as wine makes me depressed.

> >

> > Does anyone else have these symptoms? I'm hypothryoid so this seems strange

> > to me. Why should I feel so bad? It was as though my mind had no liquid

> > between the folds so the raw electrical impulses scraped along. My son

> > wanted be to check into a hospital. NO!

> >

> > Any insight?

> >

> >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

I have been learning a lot about adrenals on the NTH Adrenal group

at .

Also, Dr. 's book, Adrenal Fatigue.

But I do not listen to their advice on iodine, as I think

here has a much better perspective on it.

It is true that adrenal fatigue needs addressed as well as the

thyroid. I like the analogy that you boost adrenals a step, then

thyroid, then adrenals.... I feel much better already just taking

the adrenal support vitamins.

On 3/16/2011 4:06 AM, spacejunkie2001us wrote:

I just read an article I found intriguing that lays out

the "OAT" (ovary/adrenal/thyroid) axis imbalance. The gist

of it is that many of us have adrenal fatigue, but we

treat the thyroid and ovaries. When we don't treat the

adrenal first, the thryoid meds (and iodine and some

companion neutrients)jazz us up while our bodies are

ratcheting down due to the adrenal fatigue.

I definitely have issues taking the iodine (and I LOVE it)

as I start to see all kinds of exacerbated hypo symptoms

and get really bad kidney/adrenal discomfort and cramping.

I can only attribute it to when I take iodine as when I

stop, I feel better.

What the article wasn't really clear on, and maybe because

there is no clear solution, is how to really treat the

adrenals.

Here's the article:

http://www.drlam.com/articles/ovarian_adrenal_thyroid.asp?page=1

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > Hi all,

> >

> > I saw this on a thread but didn't follow because

I haven't taken iodine for

> > awhile and didn't feel the effects but now

remember why I stopped. Anxiety.

> >

> > Because of the fallout threat I began painting

Lugol's 5% over my thyroid.

> > Don't take the supps that go with it as I cannot

afford.

> >

> > After 2 or 3 days I thought I was going out of

my mind. Even told a client I

> > needed Xanex (is that a major drug?)

> >

> > Figured out it was the iodine and drank a double

dose of chocolate powdered

> > drink mix and a piece of cholcolate on a

receptionist's dest. Helped. Went

> > home after work feeling a little better but had

a glass of wine. Sorry I did

> > that as wine makes me depressed.

> >

> > Does anyone else have these symptoms? I'm

hypothryoid so this seems strange

> > to me. Why should I feel so bad? It was as

though my mind had no liquid

> > between the folds so the raw electrical impulses

scraped along. My son

> > wanted be to check into a hospital. NO!

> >

> > Any insight?

> >

> >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

what are the adrenal support vitamins? I'm doing the iodine protocol but not

sure if there's something different for adrenals.

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > Hi all,

> > > >

> > > > I saw this on a thread but didn't follow because I haven't taken

> > iodine for

> > > > awhile and didn't feel the effects but now remember why I stopped.

> > Anxiety.

> > > >

> > > > Because of the fallout threat I began painting Lugol's 5% over my

> > thyroid.

> > > > Don't take the supps that go with it as I cannot afford.

> > > >

> > > > After 2 or 3 days I thought I was going out of my mind. Even told

> > a client I

> > > > needed Xanex (is that a major drug?)

> > > >

> > > > Figured out it was the iodine and drank a double dose of chocolate

> > powdered

> > > > drink mix and a piece of cholcolate on a receptionist's dest.

> > Helped. Went

> > > > home after work feeling a little better but had a glass of wine.

> > Sorry I did

> > > > that as wine makes me depressed.

> > > >

> > > > Does anyone else have these symptoms? I'm hypothryoid so this

> > seems strange

> > > > to me. Why should I feel so bad? It was as though my mind had no

> > liquid

> > > > between the folds so the raw electrical impulses scraped along. My son

> > > > wanted be to check into a hospital. NO!

> > > >

> > > > Any insight?

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > >

> >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

From Dr. 's book on Adrenal Fatigue: The 21st Century Stress

Syndrome-

Vit C

Vit E- 800 IU

Pantothenic Acid- B- , 1500 mg

Niacin - b-, 25-50 mg

Vit. B6- 50 -100 mg

B complex- I usually take 100 mg a B complex and then just add extra

Pantothenic 1500 mg to get them all rather than buy a bunch of B's

B12- I use a spray absorbed by mouth mucosa

magnesium- 400 mg

Good multi-vitamins with all trace minerals in it, or just trace

minerals

Check to see if Vit. D is adequate.

Plus, it is very important to know that your iron is adequate- not

just ferritin, but a complete iron panel.

I started Iodine and supplements first, then I added all of these

while waiting on my labs to come back. The combination is really

making some difference; no brain fog, able to get up in mornings a

bit easier, my nails are starting to grow out differently, my hair

is starting to grow back, etc.

When my labs come back, I'll have a more objective base from which

to see what else my body may need.

On 3/16/2011 3:42 PM, spacejunkie2001us wrote:

what are the adrenal support vitamins? I'm doing the

iodine protocol but not sure if there's something

different for adrenals.

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > Hi all,

> > > >

> > > > I saw this on a thread but didn't

follow because I haven't taken

> > iodine for

> > > > awhile and didn't feel the effects but

now remember why I stopped.

> > Anxiety.

> > > >

> > > > Because of the fallout threat I began

painting Lugol's 5% over my

> > thyroid.

> > > > Don't take the supps that go with it

as I cannot afford.

> > > >

> > > > After 2 or 3 days I thought I was

going out of my mind. Even told

> > a client I

> > > > needed Xanex (is that a major drug?)

> > > >

> > > > Figured out it was the iodine and

drank a double dose of chocolate

> > powdered

> > > > drink mix and a piece of cholcolate on

a receptionist's dest.

> > Helped. Went

> > > > home after work feeling a little

better but had a glass of wine.

> > Sorry I did

> > > > that as wine makes me depressed.

> > > >

> > > > Does anyone else have these symptoms?

I'm hypothryoid so this

> > seems strange

> > > > to me. Why should I feel so bad? It

was as though my mind had no

> > liquid

> > > > between the folds so the raw

electrical impulses scraped along. My son

> > > > wanted be to check into a hospital.

NO!

> > > >

> > > > Any insight?

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > >

> >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Thanks, very helpful!

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Hi all,

> > > > > >

> > > > > > I saw this on a thread but didn't follow because I haven't taken

> > > > iodine for

> > > > > > awhile and didn't feel the effects but now remember why I

> > stopped.

> > > > Anxiety.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Because of the fallout threat I began painting Lugol's 5% over my

> > > > thyroid.

> > > > > > Don't take the supps that go with it as I cannot afford.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > After 2 or 3 days I thought I was going out of my mind. Even told

> > > > a client I

> > > > > > needed Xanex (is that a major drug?)

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Figured out it was the iodine and drank a double dose of

> > chocolate

> > > > powdered

> > > > > > drink mix and a piece of cholcolate on a receptionist's dest.

> > > > Helped. Went

> > > > > > home after work feeling a little better but had a glass of wine.

> > > > Sorry I did

> > > > > > that as wine makes me depressed.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Does anyone else have these symptoms? I'm hypothryoid so this

> > > > seems strange

> > > > > > to me. Why should I feel so bad? It was as though my mind had no

> > > > liquid

> > > > > > between the folds so the raw electrical impulses scraped

> > along. My son

> > > > > > wanted be to check into a hospital. NO!

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Any insight?

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > >

> >

> >

>