Guest guest Posted April 8, 2010 Report Share Posted April 8, 2010 Hi All, I came across this quote just now in the Links section: " 11. Have you ever treated anyone who had iodine-induced hyperthyroidism? Flechas: I once treated someone with a goiter. His T4 went from 8 to 14. He didn't have Graves, just a huge goiter. He became hyperthyroid. People above age 60 often have nodules, which can become hyperactive with iodine. That's why the doctor needs to check for nodules. " I have nodules. Does this mean that I should just keep watch for hyperactive symptoms? Thanks, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 12, 2010 Report Share Posted May 12, 2010 This just happened to me recently. I am 47 years old and I was taking iodine for 3 1/2 months, messing around with the dose a bit. My doctor suggested I start taking it for a slightly enlarged thyroid. Then my thyroid levels went from normal to hyperthyroid. My last test last week, they were even higher and now my doc wants to start me on thyroid meds. I'm wishing now that I hadn't taken the iodine. > > Hi All, > > I came across this quote just now in the Links section: > > " 11. Have you ever treated anyone who had iodine-induced hyperthyroidism? > > Flechas: I once treated someone with a goiter. His T4 went from 8 to 14. He didn't have Graves, just a huge goiter. He became hyperthyroid. > > People above age 60 often have nodules, which can become hyperactive with iodine. That's why the doctor needs to check for nodules. " > > I have nodules. Does this mean that I should just keep watch for hyperactive symptoms? > > Thanks, > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 12, 2010 Report Share Posted May 12, 2010 How was your thyroid dx'd hyper? Did they test free t3 and free t4? What thyroid meds did they put you on? Steph Re: Flechas on nodules This just happened to me recently. I am 47 years old and I was taking iodine for 3 1/2 months, messing around with the dose a bit. My doctor suggested I start taking it for a slightly enlarged thyroid. Then my thyroid levels went from normal to hyperthyroid. My last test last week, they were even higher and now my doc wants to start me on thyroid meds. I'm wishing now that I hadn't taken the iodine. >> Hi All,> > I came across this quote just now in the Links section:> > "11. Have you ever treated anyone who had iodine-induced hyperthyroidism? > > Flechas: I once treated someone with a goiter. His T4 went from 8 to 14. He didn't have Graves, just a huge goiter. He became hyperthyroid. > > People above age 60 often have nodules, which can become hyperactive with iodine. That's why the doctor needs to check for nodules."> > I have nodules. Does this mean that I should just keep watch for hyperactive symptoms?> > Thanks,> > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 12, 2010 Report Share Posted May 12, 2010 Iodine will raise your tsh for six mos. If you free t3 and t4 are fine then you are ok. It is expected and not an indicator that you are hypothyroid Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry Re: Flechas on nodules This just happened to me recently. I am 47 years old and I was taking iodine for 3 1/2 months, messing around with the dose a bit. My doctor suggested I start taking it for a slightly enlarged thyroid. Then my thyroid levels went from normal to hyperthyroid. My last test last week, they were even higher and now my doc wants to start me on thyroid meds. I'm wishing now that I hadn't taken the iodine. > > Hi All, > > I came across this quote just now in the Links section: > > " 11. Have you ever treated anyone who had iodine-induced hyperthyroidism? > > Flechas: I once treated someone with a goiter. His T4 went from 8 to 14. He didn't have Graves, just a huge goiter. He became hyperthyroid. > > People above age 60 often have nodules, which can become hyperactive with iodine. That's why the doctor needs to check for nodules. " > > I have nodules. Does this mean that I should just keep watch for hyperactive symptoms? > > Thanks, > > ------------------------------------ All off topic posts should go to the IodineOT group IodineOT/ Commonly asked questions: http://tinyurl.com/yhnds5e Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 12, 2010 Report Share Posted May 12, 2010 But they are saying hyper - which is lower the TSH - so that is not typically what happens with iodine. Steph Re: Flechas on nodules > > This just happened to me recently. I am 47 years old and I was taking > iodine for 3 1/2 months, messing around with the dose a bit. My doctor > suggested I start taking it for a slightly enlarged thyroid. Then my > thyroid levels went from normal to hyperthyroid. My last test last week, > they were even higher and now my doc wants to start me on thyroid meds. > I'm wishing now that I hadn't taken the iodine. > > >> >> Hi All, >> >> I came across this quote just now in the Links section: >> >> " 11. Have you ever treated anyone who had iodine-induced hyperthyroidism? >> >> Flechas: I once treated someone with a goiter. His T4 went from 8 to 14. >> He didn't have Graves, just a huge goiter. He became hyperthyroid. >> >> People above age 60 often have nodules, which can become hyperactive with >> iodine. That's why the doctor needs to check for nodules. " >> >> I have nodules. Does this mean that I should just keep watch for >> hyperactive symptoms? >> >> Thanks, >> >> > > > > > ------------------------------------ > > All off topic posts should go to the IodineOT group > IodineOT/ > > > Commonly asked questions: http://tinyurl.com/yhnds5e Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 12, 2010 Report Share Posted May 12, 2010 Many people show an elevated TSH for up to 6 months, but that is not a problem. It is your body adjusting to getting iodine, and will normalize. Iodine can only help you, will not make anything worse. Have you read Dr. Brownstein’s books? The new member files? They explain this. Donna in IL From: iodine [mailto:iodine ] On Behalf Of Congrats to the top 4 Sent: Wednesday, May 12, 2010 6:09 AM iodine Subject: Re: Flechas on nodules This just happened to me recently. I am 47 years old and I was taking iodine for 3 1/2 months, messing around with the dose a bit. My doctor suggested I start taking it for a slightly enlarged thyroid. Then my thyroid levels went from normal to hyperthyroid. My last test last week, they were even higher and now my doc wants to start me on thyroid meds. I'm wishing now that I hadn't taken the iodine. > > Hi All, > > I came across this quote just now in the Links section: > > " 11. Have you ever treated anyone who had iodine-induced hyperthyroidism? > > Flechas: I once treated someone with a goiter. His T4 went from 8 to 14. He didn't have Graves, just a huge goiter. He became hyperthyroid. > > People above age 60 often have nodules, which can become hyperactive with iodine. That's why the doctor needs to check for nodules. " > > I have nodules. Does this mean that I should just keep watch for hyperactive symptoms? > > Thanks, > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 12, 2010 Report Share Posted May 12, 2010 Taking iodine might make you feel worse for a while, though. I am detoxing bromine because of the iodine, and it really hurts my hips. I am detoxing fluoride because of the iodine, and I got a rash on my leg and across my shoulders and my bones ache from it. I am detoxing mercury because of the iodine, and it makes my wrists and ankles weak and gives me headaches. When it comes out of my skull it makes it impossible to whistle and difficult to talk because the Hg makes my lips kind of numb. It makes it difficult to swallow when it comes out of my throat, and makes my ileocecal valve shut down when my gut lining detoxes, or when my liver dumps the Hg into my gut through my gallbladder. It makes my gallbladder very unhappy, too. Has anyone else had any of these symptoms? I just was listening to a WAPF talk recording about oxalic acid. It says that oxalic acid in the body binds with heavy metals like mercury, and becomes very painful. I wonder if it also binds with halogens. Oxalic acid can come from soy, nuts, and candida. The doctor speaking suggested calcium or magnesium citrate to get rid of the oxalic acid (which he believes is behind fibromyalgia). I am taking magnesium lactate and it seems to help a lot with pain and other symptoms, too, so I wonder if anyone here has tried that? Minno RE: Re: Flechas on nodules Many people show an elevated TSH for up to 6 months, but that is not a problem. It is your body adjusting to getting iodine, and will normalize. Iodine can only help you, will not make anything worse. Have you read Dr. Brownstein’s books? The new member files? They explain this. Donna in IL From: iodine [mailto:iodine ] On Behalf Of Congrats to the top 4Sent: Wednesday, May 12, 2010 6:09 AMiodine Subject: Re: Flechas on nodules This just happened to me recently. I am 47 years old and I was taking iodine for 3 1/2 months, messing around with the dose a bit. My doctor suggested I start taking it for a slightly enlarged thyroid. Then my thyroid levels went from normal to hyperthyroid. My last test last week, they were even higher and now my doc wants to start me on thyroid meds. I'm wishing now that I hadn't taken the iodine. >> Hi All,> > I came across this quote just now in the Links section:> > "11. Have you ever treated anyone who had iodine-induced hyperthyroidism? > > Flechas: I once treated someone with a goiter. His T4 went from 8 to 14. He didn't have Graves, just a huge goiter. He became hyperthyroid. > > People above age 60 often have nodules, which can become hyperactive with iodine. That's why the doctor needs to check for nodules."> > I have nodules. Does this mean that I should just keep watch for hyperactive symptoms?> > Thanks,> > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 12, 2010 Report Share Posted May 12, 2010 For what it's worth, I had a fairly large nodule when I started iodine, & it is getting much smaller. The whole thyroid is also softening & shrinking, so that what is left of the nodule is deeper in my neck & harder to feel. (In that, at least, I am a very happy camper!) HOWEVER, I experienced the common swelling in both the thyroid & the nodule when I first started iodine, which resolved after a few days. And at one point, when I cut my dose briefly, the nodule alone swelled & ached till I returned to the higher dose.My sense is that a new influx of iodine can be kind of destabilizing. I feel a wee bit strange sometimes -- like my body is trying to find a new equilibrium. It would kind of make sense if every gland in your body is suddenly experiencing a change in its ability to function. Unless you are feeling desperately ill, I would be inclined to just sit it out & let things stabilize. (And I, personally, would not stop taking iodine, either, because that would work against the body finding a new balance. I'm not saying that that's what you should do. But my body sent me a pretty clear message when I cut the dose.)When the concentration camps were liberated, & they tried to feed starving people, some of them died because they couldn't process the food. Even a good change can be a problem, if the body has adapted to starvation.It's scary to try to find your way in an area where doctors are not well-informed, when your body is feeling confused.AnneOn May 12, 2010, at 4:08 AM, Congrats to the top 4 wrote: This just happened to me recently. I am 47 years old and I was taking iodine for 3 1/2 months, messing around with the dose a bit. My doctor suggested I start taking it for a slightly enlarged thyroid. Then my thyroid levels went from normal to hyperthyroid. My last test last week, they were even higher and now my doc wants to start me on thyroid meds. I'm wishing now that I hadn't taken the iodine. > > Hi All, > > I came across this quote just now in the Links section: > > "11. Have you ever treated anyone who had iodine-induced hyperthyroidism? > > Flechas: I once treated someone with a goiter. His T4 went from 8 to 14. He didn't have Graves, just a huge goiter. He became hyperthyroid. > > People above age 60 often have nodules, which can become hyperactive with iodine. That's why the doctor needs to check for nodules." > > I have nodules. Does this mean that I should just keep watch for hyperactive symptoms? > > Thanks, > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 12, 2010 Report Share Posted May 12, 2010 Might want to check on adrenals!!! V > >> > >> Hi All, > >> > >> I came across this quote just now in the Links section: > >> > >> " 11. Have you ever treated anyone who had iodine-induced hyperthyroidism? > >> > >> Flechas: I once treated someone with a goiter. His T4 went from 8 to 14. > >> He didn't have Graves, just a huge goiter. He became hyperthyroid. > >> > >> People above age 60 often have nodules, which can become hyperactive with > >> iodine. That's why the doctor needs to check for nodules. " > >> > >> I have nodules. Does this mean that I should just keep watch for > >> hyperactive symptoms? > >> > >> Thanks, > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------ > > > > All off topic posts should go to the IodineOT group > > IodineOT/ > > > > > > Commonly asked questions: http://tinyurl.com/yhnds5e Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 12, 2010 Report Share Posted May 12, 2010 My T3 and T4 are both quite high and TSH is low. They were tested about two months ago and then again at the end of April and the levels had changed even more so. I'm wondering if it's just a coincidence? My doc thinks I was probably just on the edge of being hyper. and the iodine tipped me over?? She put me on Tapazole and I'm nervous about taking it! Am I rushing into treating this condition?? > > > > Hi All, > > > > I came across this quote just now in the Links section: > > > > " 11. Have you ever treated anyone who had iodine-induced hyperthyroidism? > > > > Flechas: I once treated someone with a goiter. His T4 went from 8 to 14. He didn't have Graves, just a huge goiter. He became hyperthyroid. > > > > People above age 60 often have nodules, which can become hyperactive with iodine. That's why the doctor needs to check for nodules. " > > > > I have nodules. Does this mean that I should just keep watch for hyperactive symptoms? > > > > Thanks, > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 12, 2010 Report Share Posted May 12, 2010 Lugol's, Lithium and L-Carnatine is what my doctor uses to treat hyperthyroidism. The Merck Manual states that Lugol's is a treatment for hyperT / Graves - you can google that. I personally would not take tapazole. I don't take drugs - other than Naturethroid since I am permanently hypothyroid due to thyroidectomy. Did they test antibodies - both for hashi's and graves? Steph Re: Flechas on nodules My T3 and T4 are both quite high and TSH is low. They were tested about two months ago and then again at the end of April and the levels had changed even more so. I'm wondering if it's just a coincidence? My doc thinks I was probably just on the edge of being hyper. and the iodine tipped me over?? She put me on Tapazole and I'm nervous about taking it! Am I rushing into treating this condition??> >> > Hi All,> > > > I came across this quote just now in the Links section:> > > > "11. Have you ever treated anyone who had iodine-induced hyperthyroidism? > > > > Flechas: I once treated someone with a goiter. His T4 went from 8 to 14. He didn't have Graves, just a huge goiter. He became hyperthyroid. > > > > People above age 60 often have nodules, which can become hyperactive with iodine. That's why the doctor needs to check for nodules."> > > > I have nodules. Does this mean that I should just keep watch for hyperactive symptoms?> > > > Thanks,> > > >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 13, 2010 Report Share Posted May 13, 2010 Thank you for sharing your experience! I had to unsub from this group for a while...I have a head injury and was put on cognitive/physical rest...ugh. The doctor I saw yesterday seemed to think from looking at my blood work from a month ago that the iodine I took might have caused my thyroid and nodules to become hyperT. Blood/saliva tests today will give a better picture. If my adrenals are okay then I guess we'll know. I might have to learn to live with this choking feeling. > > This just happened to me recently. I am 47 years old and I was taking iodine for 3 1/2 months, messing around with the dose a bit. My doctor suggested I start taking it for a slightly enlarged thyroid. Then my thyroid levels went from normal to hyperthyroid. My last test last week, they were even higher and now my doc wants to start me on thyroid meds. I'm wishing now that I hadn't taken the iodine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 13, 2010 Report Share Posted May 13, 2010 I'm not Congrats to the top 4, but I have read Brownstein's book and the new member files and Steph's web site. My memory isn't working too well though. But the week I took 1/2 12.5 Iodoral tablet my goiter swelled terribly and I became a freaked-out mess...crying at the drop of a hat...majorly worried all the time...that was so not like me! It was a profound and scary change that alerted me that something was not right. I was either detoxing more than I have during the past year of detox efforts, or my adrenals are out of whack, or the nodules I have just kicked into high gear. Either way, I can't live like that and must find another route to use iodine. I'm a tail-end-of-the-bell-curve kind of gal. > > Many people show an elevated TSH for up to 6 months, but that is not a problem. It is your body adjusting to getting iodine, and will normalize. Iodine can only help you, will not make anything worse. Have you read Dr. Brownstein's books? The new member files? They explain this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 13, 2010 Report Share Posted May 13, 2010 My TSH is .009, T3Free 5.2 and T4 2.24 > > > > > > Hi All, > > > > > > I came across this quote just now in the Links section: > > > > > > " 11. Have you ever treated anyone who had iodine-induced hyperthyroidism? > > > > > > Flechas: I once treated someone with a goiter. His T4 went from 8 to 14. He didn't have Graves, just a huge goiter. He became hyperthyroid. > > > > > > People above age 60 often have nodules, which can become hyperactive with iodine. That's why the doctor needs to check for nodules. " > > > > > > I have nodules. Does this mean that I should just keep watch for hyperactive symptoms? > > > > > > Thanks, > > > > > > > > > > ________________________________ > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 13, 2010 Report Share Posted May 13, 2010 Can I ask your age and current form/dosage of iodine? And what did you cut your dose down to when your body felt a wee bit strange? Thanks much, > > For what it's worth, I had a fairly large nodule when I started > iodine, & it is getting much smaller. The whole thyroid is also > softening & shrinking, so that what is left of the nodule is deeper > in my neck & harder to feel. (In that, at least, I am a very happy > camper!) HOWEVER, I experienced the common swelling in both the > thyroid & the nodule when I first started iodine, which resolved > after a few days. And at one point, when I cut my dose briefly, the > nodule alone swelled & ached till I returned to the higher dose. > > My sense is that a new influx of iodine can be kind of destabilizing. > I feel a wee bit strange sometimes -- like my body is trying to find > a new equilibrium. It would kind of make sense if every gland in your > body is suddenly experiencing a change in its ability to function. > Unless you are feeling desperately ill, I would be inclined to just > sit it out & let things stabilize. (And I, personally, would not stop > taking iodine, either, because that would work against the body > finding a new balance. I'm not saying that that's what you should do. > But my body sent me a pretty clear message when I cut the dose.) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 13, 2010 Report Share Posted May 13, 2010 , Those are detox symptoms, and your thyroid could have been reacting to what little iodine it got and swelled looking for more. There is often a healing crisis, when your symptoms get worse before better. It is worth pushing through! Also, some people react worse to a small amount. Try taking at least the whole 12.5, if not 25 mg, and be sure you are taking the companion nutrients. Did you to things for detox when you were weepy and such? That is all important. Remember that with allopathic care you often feel worse from treatments also, so don’t be afraid of feeling bad with natural things in the process of healing! Donna in IL I'm not Congrats to the top 4, but I have read Brownstein's book and the new member files and Steph's web site. My memory isn't working too well though. But the week I took 1/2 12.5 Iodoral tablet my goiter swelled terribly and I became a freaked-out mess...crying at the drop of a hat...majorly worried all the time...that was so not like me! It was a profound and scary change that alerted me that something was not right. I was either detoxing more than I have during the past year of detox efforts, or my adrenals are out of whack, or the nodules I have just kicked into high gear. Either way, I can't live like that and must find another route to use iodine. I'm a tail-end-of-the-bell-curve kind of gal. > > Many people show an elevated TSH for up to 6 months, but that is not a problem. It is your body adjusting to getting iodine, and will normalize. Iodine can only help you, will not make anything worse. Have you read Dr. Brownstein's books? The new member files? They explain this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 13, 2010 Report Share Posted May 13, 2010 Ok, what are the ranges? Donna in IL From: iodine [mailto:iodine ] On Behalf Of Congrats to the top 4 Sent: Thursday, May 13, 2010 6:03 AM iodine Subject: Re: Flechas on nodules My TSH is .009, T3Free 5.2 and T4 2.24 > > > > > > Hi All, > > > > > > I came across this quote just now in the Links section: > > > > > > " 11. Have you ever treated anyone who had iodine-induced hyperthyroidism? > > > > > > Flechas: I once treated someone with a goiter. His T4 went from 8 to 14. He didn't have Graves, just a huge goiter. He became hyperthyroid. > > > > > > People above age 60 often have nodules, which can become hyperactive with iodine. That's why the doctor needs to check for nodules. " > > > > > > I have nodules. Does this mean that I should just keep watch for hyperactive symptoms? > > > > > > Thanks, > > > > > > > > > > ________________________________ > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 13, 2010 Report Share Posted May 13, 2010 Wow. I'd have to get brave to try more. I'll think on that. I'm familiar with healing crises. The program I'm following talks about actually re-tracing previous illnesses. I think it's a concept that has origins in Eastern medicine/Chinese medicine. It was the hardest concept for me to wrap my mind around, but after experiencing it myself and then seeing my husband go through it, I'm better about enduring the pain. But I've never been so anxious or had my thyroid swell up so dramatically. I'm sure the swelling had something to do with the anxiety...when you feel like you're not going to be able to swallow, you get tense. I've just got to be able to function at least minimally while detoxing. Thanks for your help. > > > > Many people show an elevated TSH for up to 6 months, but that is not a problem. It is your body adjusting to getting iodine, and will normalize. Iodine can only help you, will not make anything worse. Have you read Dr. Brownstein's books? The new member files? They explain this. > > ________________________________ > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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