Guest guest Posted March 12, 2011 Report Share Posted March 12, 2011 Before we went on Lugol's my husband and I were taking SSKi, 120 mg/day. We were fine. I think it would be OK to do this indefinitely - we sure plan to (along with the Lugol's).When you add this to the depleted uranium, the leftover chernobyl radiation (half-life of millions of years) plus all the other lingering radiation...well that's alot. ArielOn Sat, Mar 12, 2011 at 10:03 AM, Shreve <christineshreve@...> wrote: ......CDC recommends taking one dose, or until the danger is past....... ONE dose? Seriously? Like a nuclear fallout “cloud” passes by in one day? I don’t get it. I thought this problem hung around for quite a long while, given the Chernobyl evidence. How long would one of you more educated folks take these higher doses? And would I assume a higher nutrient support panel? -- Ariel MonserratPublisher & Managing EditorGreen Egg zinewww.greeneggzine.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 12, 2011 Report Share Posted March 12, 2011 As far as I can see, there hasn't been any major incident yet - at least that is what they are saying? Are you all suggesting to start taking these increased amounts right NOW, or, only if the plant actually has a meltdown? I am just confused about what is actually going on I guess. Thanks!! F. (I see there is another : ) > > > > > > > .....CDC recommends taking one dose, or until the danger is past....... > > > > ONE dose? Seriously? Like a nuclear fallout " cloud " passes by in one > > day? I don't get it. I thought this problem hung around for quite a long > > while, given the Chernobyl evidence. How long would one of you more > > educated folks take these higher doses? > > > > And would I assume a higher nutrient support panel? > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > Ariel Monserrat > Publisher & Managing Editor > Green Egg zine > www.greeneggzine.com > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 12, 2011 Report Share Posted March 12, 2011 Dr. Brownstein is obviously using the information from the map I have been talking about. It's a shame he didn't fact-check before using it. Also, my understanding is that iodine only protects from radioactive forms of iodine. If there are other forms of radiation (and there will be if radiation is released from the reactors), it won't protect you from them. Also, the half-life of I-131 is very short and will NOT remain in the soil for a long time. It is so important that we make sure we are not passing on misinformation in a matter as serious as this. Pamela Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 12, 2011 Report Share Posted March 12, 2011 To add to this - he did not use the map on his blog post. Just in the draft he sent to me. Buist, ND Re: Iodine and Children/Was iodine very important now!--Japan nuclea Dr. Brownstein is obviously using the information from the map I have been talking about. It's a shame he didn't fact-check before using it.Also, my understanding is that iodine only protects from radioactive forms of iodine. If there are other forms of radiation (and there will be if radiation is released from the reactors), it won't protect you from them. Also, the half-life of I-131 is very short and will NOT remain in the soil for a long time.It is so important that we make sure we are not passing on misinformation in a matter as serious as this.Pamela Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 12, 2011 Report Share Posted March 12, 2011 Well, I am on 13 iodoral, my husband just upped his dose from5 pills to 10.5 & my seven yr. old went from 1 1/2 to 6, and we are alljust fine.It can only help in the detox process.AliOn Mar 12, 2011, at 3:07 PM, ladybugsandbees wrote:The symbol on that map is a real organization. It's hard to determine what is real. Yes it probably should have been checked but he wanted to get data to the public. The fact remains that you will need extra iodine - how much. We don't know as we don't know true exposure data. Buist, ND Re: Iodine and Children/Was iodine very important now!--Japan nuclea Dr. Brownstein is obviously using the information from the map I have been talking about. It's a shame he didn't fact-check before using it.Also, my understanding is that iodine only protects from radioactive forms of iodine. If there are other forms of radiation (and there will be if radiation is released from the reactors), it won't protect you from them. Also, the half-life of I-131 is very short and will NOT remain in the soil for a long time.It is so important that we make sure we are not passing on misinformation in a matter as serious as this.Pamela Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 12, 2011 Report Share Posted March 12, 2011 Today i was watching about the tusnami in japan and an official was saying about giving the people in the 6 mile radius of the nuclear plant iodine pills to help prevent people dying of cancer from the fall out if the reactor fails. they KNOW that iodine helps, they just hope people won't really hear that message and it helps keep everything quiet so people remain sick. Re: Iodine and Children/Was iodine very important now!--Japan nuclea Dr. Brownstein is obviously using the information from the map I have been talking about. It's a shame he didn't fact-check before using it.Also, my understanding is that iodine only protects from radioactive forms of iodine. If there are other forms of radiation (and there will be if radiation is released from the reactors), it won't protect you from them. Also, the half-life of I-131 is very short and will NOT remain in the soil for a long time.It is so important that we make sure we are not passing on misinformation in a matter as serious as this.Pamela Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 12, 2011 Report Share Posted March 12, 2011 Thank you for the accurate and evolving updates regarding iodide/radiation dangers along the west coast. I have a lot of under-informed family members with thyroid issues there, who probably think I’m a nut, but I care for them and want to know how best to suggest they care for their health. While I do not want to over-react, and I don’t want to seem like a fringe person, it only makes sense to me that that area will most definitely have some impact from the Japanese situation. So my core question at the moment: Has there been definite radiation leakage there yet, or not? Is this hypothetical or real at this moment? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 12, 2011 Report Share Posted March 12, 2011 This blogger says the radiation could reach the west coast in 36 hours. I lived in Southern Germany during Chernobyl and gardened in the rain the Sunday following the incident. Konstanz was a place where they did testing for radioactiveness in the soil. http://modernsurvivalblog.com/nuclear/west-coast-usa-danger-if-japan-nuclear-rea\ ctor-meltdown/ Joan > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > .....CDC recommends taking one dose, or until the danger is past....... > > > > > > > > ONE dose? Seriously? Like a nuclear fallout " cloud " passes by in one > > > > day? I don't get it. I thought this problem hung around for quite a > > long > > > > while, given the Chernobyl evidence. How long would one of you more > > > > educated folks take these higher doses? > > > > > > > > And would I assume a higher nutrient support panel? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > Ariel Monserrat > > > Publisher & Managing Editor > > > Green Egg zine > > > www.greeneggzine.com > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > Ariel Monserrat > Publisher & Managing Editor > Green Egg zine > www.greeneggzine.com > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 12, 2011 Report Share Posted March 12, 2011 There has definitely been a release of radiation from at least one of the reactors - some of it, at least, was intentional and controlled, in order to release pressure and to prevent an all-out meltdown. The radiation that has been released would not likely reach the United States, both because of the amount as well as the method of release (it was released into a series of filters intended to minimize the impact of the release). The only way there will definitely be an impact on the west coast or any other part of the United States, is if a significant amount of radiation is released in such a way that it enters the jet stream. So far, everything I've heard indicates that this type of emergency has been averted. I'm sure it's an emerging situation, though, and things could change quite suddenly, especially with the on-going after-shocks that could cause further damage. Pamela > > Thank you for the accurate and evolving updates regarding iodide/radiation > dangers along the west coast. I have a lot of under-informed family members > with thyroid issues there, who probably think I¹m a nut, but I care for them > and want to know how best to suggest they care for their health. While I do > not want to over-react, and I don¹t want to seem like a fringe person, it > only makes sense to me that that area will most definitely have some impact > from the Japanese situation. So my core question at the moment: Has there > been definite radiation leakage there yet, or not? Is this hypothetical or > real at this moment? > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 12, 2011 Report Share Posted March 12, 2011 The comments on this blog are just as interesting as the blog itself. Who do you believe? Joan > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > .....CDC recommends taking one dose, or until the danger is past....... > > > > > > > > > > ONE dose? Seriously? Like a nuclear fallout " cloud " passes by in one > > > > > day? I don't get it. I thought this problem hung around for quite a > > > long > > > > > while, given the Chernobyl evidence. How long would one of you more > > > > > educated folks take these higher doses? > > > > > > > > > > And would I assume a higher nutrient support panel? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > Ariel Monserrat > > > > Publisher & Managing Editor > > > > Green Egg zine > > > > www.greeneggzine.com > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > Ariel Monserrat > > Publisher & Managing Editor > > Green Egg zine > > www.greeneggzine.com > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 12, 2011 Report Share Posted March 12, 2011 Yes, but since when did governments tell the truthand the whole story?AliOn Mar 12, 2011, at 8:12 PM, Pamela wrote:There has definitely been a release of radiation from at least one of the reactors - some of it, at least, was intentional and controlled, in order to release pressure and to prevent an all-out meltdown. The radiation that has been released would not likely reach the United States, both because of the amount as well as the method of release (it was released into a series of filters intended to minimize the impact of the release).The only way there will definitely be an impact on the west coast or any other part of the United States, is if a significant amount of radiation is released in such a way that it enters the jet stream. So far, everything I've heard indicates that this type of emergency has been averted. I'm sure it's an emerging situation, though, and things could change quite suddenly, especially with the on-going after-shocks that could cause further damage.Pamela>> Thank you for the accurate and evolving updates regarding iodide/radiation> dangers along the west coast. I have a lot of under-informed family members> with thyroid issues there, who probably think I¹m a nut, but I care for them> and want to know how best to suggest they care for their health. While I do> not want to over-react, and I don¹t want to seem like a fringe person, it> only makes sense to me that that area will most definitely have some impact> from the Japanese situation. So my core question at the moment: Has there> been definite radiation leakage there yet, or not? Is this hypothetical or> real at this moment?> > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 12, 2011 Report Share Posted March 12, 2011 WHEN and IF a significant release of radiation occurs and it enters the jet stream, then that estimate is much more likely than the one that indicated a deadly dose would reach the west coast 10 days after the release. I believe it would take between 36-60 hours, depending on the jet stream, which can travel at different speeds and along different paths. It would depend how quickly it was moving and how circuitous its route is. Think about the weather...how long does it take for weather from Japan to reach the United States? That's about how long it would take for radiation to reach us. Think, too, about Chernobyl. Radiation travelled almost all the way around the world (travelling the long way from west to east) before it reached the US. That took 9 days. The distance from Japan to the west coast is about 1/3 the distance from Chernobyl to the west coast. 1/3 of 9 days is 3 days. I have a feeling that air moves more slowly over land than it does water and that since it would not be encumbered by land, it would travel a little more quickly. Pamela > > This blogger says the radiation could reach the west coast in 36 hours. I lived in Southern Germany during Chernobyl and gardened in the rain the Sunday following the incident. Konstanz was a place where they did testing for radioactiveness in the soil. > > http://modernsurvivalblog.com/nuclear/west-coast-usa-danger-if-japan-nuclear-rea\ ctor-meltdown/ > > Joan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 12, 2011 Report Share Posted March 12, 2011 I vote we believe the commenters who say the earthquake was the work of aliens! Seems to be the most logical explanation. Or the conspiracy theorist who refuses to cite his sources that this entire tragedy is a result of electromagnetic warfare! Good laughs in the midst of such loss. Seriously, the author of this post seems to be the most rational that I've read. Of course, I think so because he's saying exactly what I've been saying since yesterday! Pamela > > > > This blogger says the radiation could reach the west coast in 36 hours. I lived in Southern Germany during Chernobyl and gardened in the rain the Sunday following the incident. Konstanz was a place where they did testing for radioactiveness in the soil. > > > > http://modernsurvivalblog.com/nuclear/west-coast-usa-danger-if-japan-nuclear-rea\ ctor-meltdown/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 12, 2011 Report Share Posted March 12, 2011 Actually, the fact remains that you MIGHT need extra iodine. No significant release of radiation has occurred and until it does, EVERYTHING is sheer speculation. Because of that, it's irresponsible to quote unreliable sources that indicate people will die en masse in California 10 days after a radiation release. If somebody were to research the effects of exposure to 750 rads of radiation, they'd probably ask why bother taking iodine. They'd be dead from the Cesium or Strontium although their thyroid would be protect from I-131. Pamela > > The symbol on that map is a real organization. It's hard to determine what is real. Yes it probably should have been checked but he wanted to get data to the public. The fact remains that you will need extra iodine - how much. We don't know as we don't know true exposure data. > > Buist, ND Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 12, 2011 Report Share Posted March 12, 2011 BUT he used the facts represented on the map - 10 days to California and 750 rad exposure in California. > > To add to this - he did not use the map on his blog post. Just in the draft he sent to me. > > Buist, ND > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 12, 2011 Report Share Posted March 12, 2011 > > Today i was watching about the tusnami in japan and an official was > saying about giving the people in the 6 mile radius of the nuclear > plant iodine pills to help prevent people dying of cancer from the > fall out if the reactor fails. they KNOW that iodine helps, they just > hope people won't really hear that message and it helps keep > everything quiet so people remain sick. THAT IS RIDICULOUS! Why would a country that has been as devastated as Japan want a significant number of its citizens to be so sick? They will need everybody possible to help recover from this tragedy. I heard it mentioned several times, starting on Friday, that they were distributing Iodine pills. And it's to prevent them from getting thyroid cancer - not any other kind of cancer. Remember, too that this is the Japanese government. I think you are imparting to it qualities of the government of the USA - unless you know what their government is like, that's unfair. Pamela Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 12, 2011 Report Share Posted March 12, 2011 Independent organizations have also been monitoring the situation and nobody has indicated that any significant release has occurred. We do not have to rely on government for our information. Trust me - there are anti-nuclear power contingents who are watching very carefully - and who will blow the whistle as soon as possible because it advances their anti-nuclear arguments. Pamela > > > > > > Thank you for the accurate and evolving updates regarding iodide/ > > radiation > > > dangers along the west coast. I have a lot of under-informed > > family members > > > with thyroid issues there, who probably think I¹m a nut, but I > > care for them > > > and want to know how best to suggest they care for their health. > > While I do > > > not want to over-react, and I don¹t want to seem like a fringe > > person, it > > > only makes sense to me that that area will most definitely have > > some impact > > > from the Japanese situation. So my core question at the moment: > > Has there > > > been definite radiation leakage there yet, or not? Is this > > hypothetical or > > > real at this moment? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 13, 2011 Report Share Posted March 13, 2011 I have posted Dr. Brownsteins link on Face Book, and contacted others by email. I don't care if I'm thought a kook----just want loved ones and friends to have the tools. God Bless, Sara > > Thank you for the accurate and evolving updates regarding iodide/radiation > dangers along the west coast. I have a lot of under-informed family members > with thyroid issues there, who probably think I¹m a nut, but I care for them > and want to know how best to suggest they care for their health. While I do > not want to over-react, and I don¹t want to seem like a fringe person, it > only makes sense to me that that area will most definitely have some impact > from the Japanese situation. So my core question at the moment: Has there > been definite radiation leakage there yet, or not? Is this hypothetical or > real at this moment? > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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