Pharmaceutical grade nano-liposomes

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Greg,

In reference to your post below . . .

I've started to take some Liposomal Vit C from NanoLiposomal Nutritionals after

reading Anne's post. I am totally impressed and with the iodine and all

companion nutrients my health is taking on a completely long, long awaited

dramtic postive change! I have order the sonic mixer and the the ingredients

per Anne's receipe. I have some concerns about the soy lecithin even non-GMO.

I especially noticed your reference to 'special pharmaceutical grade

nano-liposomes'. I am assuming lecithin is a form of the nano-liposomes but I

am concerned about soy source of this in the home made receipe and in the

product I am using.

Can you tell me where I can obtain a better form? I will be making this and

want the purest formula I can make.

I also was very intrigued and interested in your comments about it having 'an

attenuating effect on catecholamine metabolism, and adrenal and neurotransmitter

supporting effect, possibly related to its energizing effect'.

All three of these areas I've been working on supporting and trying to bring

balance to for years.

Any additinal information you can share with me regarding your experience with

liposomal C would be very much appreciated. What dosages do you find work best

for you?

Thank you

Sage

Anne,

I've been making and using liposome vitamin C for the past few years. it's good

stuff. I believe it's many times more effective than what people are reporting.

It has helped me in many areas, especially my allergies and a nagging CFS

related viral infection. It appears to exert a powerful immune modulating

effect. I think it also has an attenuating effect on catecholamine metabolism,

an adrenal and neurotransmitter supporting effect, possibly related to its

energizing effect. And it appears to have a beneficial effect on complexion, i

believe collagen related. . . among other benefits.

I use liposome C as part of the Matthias Rath protocol: vit.c, lysine and

proline, for its anti-mutagenic, increased circulation and anti viral effects.

It's this combination which, I believe, has made an unintended difference in my

complexion.

I use a special pharmaceutical grade of nano-liposomes not available in the

retail market, in a proprietary patent pending formula, so this may have made a

difference in my experiences, I don't know. I've not used the popular " home

made " formula, and I see no reason why one couldn't get similar results.

A few considerations: For those already high in iron, high doses of vitamin c

could potentially increase their iron levels, and it's not clear there's a

problem for most from the feedback I've received. Also, it's important to take

it on an empty stomach separate from other supplements and drugs. It could

potentially interfere with their intended effectiveness. A necessary caution:

liposomes have the potential to interfere with the therapeutic actions of highly

toxic drugs, i.e. chemotherapeutic agents, delivering them to unintended

cellular and tissue sites.

The inexact science of interacting complexities of drugs and liposomes can't be

overemphasized, both in their ability to deliver agents and their cellular

fluidizing effects. All applications should be considered experimental and

ideally be monitored by a healthcare professional.

Greg

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I had a lot of reservations about the soy, too. As a rule, I avoid soy like the plague. My son is on the autistic spectrum, & most of our children are taken off soy (as well as gluten & dairy.) But one of my friends takes her son to the premier DAN! doctor in the northwest, & he told her that our kids need the lecithin, & that the part of the soy that affects them is not present in lecithin.I got the book (a tiny one!) on liposomal technology, & promptly lost it. When I find it again & get a chance to read it, I will report if I find anything else pertinent. But so far, it seems clear that lecithin is crucial to the process.AnneOn Dec 4, 2010, at 11:44 AM, Sage wrote: Greg, In reference to your post below . . . I've started to take some Liposomal Vit C from NanoLiposomal Nutritionals after reading Anne's post. I am totally impressed and with the iodine and all companion nutrients my health is taking on a completely long, long awaited dramtic postive change! I have order the sonic mixer and the the ingredients per Anne's receipe. I have some concerns about the soy lecithin even non-GMO. I especially noticed your reference to 'special pharmaceutical grade nano-liposomes'. I am assuming lecithin is a form of the nano-liposomes but I am concerned about soy source of this in the home made receipe and in the product I am using. Can you tell me where I can obtain a better form? I will be making this and want the purest formula I can make. I also was very intrigued and interested in your comments about it having 'an attenuating effect on catecholamine metabolism, and adrenal and neurotransmitter supporting effect, possibly related to its energizing effect'. All three of these areas I've been working on supporting and trying to bring balance to for years. Any additinal information you can share with me regarding your experience with liposomal C would be very much appreciated. What dosages do you find work best for you? Thank you Sage Anne, I've been making and using liposome vitamin C for the past few years. it's good stuff. I believe it's many times more effective than what people are reporting. It has helped me in many areas, especially my allergies and a nagging CFS related viral infection. It appears to exert a powerful immune modulating effect. I think it also has an attenuating effect on catecholamine metabolism, an adrenal and neurotransmitter supporting effect, possibly related to its energizing effect. And it appears to have a beneficial effect on complexion, i believe collagen related. . . among other benefits. I use liposome C as part of the Matthias Rath protocol: vit.c, lysine and proline, for its anti-mutagenic, increased circulation and anti viral effects. It's this combination which, I believe, has made an unintended difference in my complexion. I use a special pharmaceutical grade of nano-liposomes not available in the retail market, in a proprietary patent pending formula, so this may have made a difference in my experiences, I don't know. I've not used the popular "home made" formula, and I see no reason why one couldn't get similar results. A few considerations: For those already high in iron, high doses of vitamin c could potentially increase their iron levels, and it's not clear there's a problem for most from the feedback I've received. Also, it's important to take it on an empty stomach separate from other supplements and drugs. It could potentially interfere with their intended effectiveness. A necessary caution: liposomes have the potential to interfere with the therapeutic actions of highly toxic drugs, i.e. chemotherapeutic agents, delivering them to unintended cellular and tissue sites. The inexact science of interacting complexities of drugs and liposomes can't be overemphasized, both in their ability to deliver agents and their cellular fluidizing effects. All applications should be considered experimental and ideally be monitored by a healthcare professional. Greg

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Anne ,what anout lecithin from othr sources or indeed from organic soy?From: Anne Seals <anneseals@...>iodine Sent: Sat, 4 December, 2010 21:27:39Subject: Re: Pharmaceutical grade nano-liposomes

I had a lot of reservations about the soy, too. As a rule, I avoid soy like the plague. My son is on the autistic spectrum, & most of our children are taken off soy (as well as gluten & dairy.) But one of my friends takes her son to the premier DAN! doctor in the northwest, & he told her that our kids need the lecithin, & that the part of the soy that affects them is not present in lecithin.I got the book (a tiny one!) on liposomal technology, & promptly lost it. When I find it again & get a chance to read it, I will report if I find anything else pertinent. But so far, it seems clear that lecithin is crucial to the process.AnneOn Dec 4, 2010, at 11:44 AM, Sage wrote: Greg, In reference to your post below . . .

I've started to take some Liposomal Vit C from NanoLiposomal Nutritionals after reading Anne's post. I am totally impressed and with the iodine and all companion nutrients my health is taking on a completely long, long awaited dramtic postive change! I have order the sonic mixer and the the ingredients per Anne's receipe. I have some concerns about the soy lecithin even non-GMO. I especially noticed your reference to 'special pharmaceutical grade nano-liposomes'. I am assuming lecithin is a form of the nano-liposomes but I am concerned about soy source of this in the home made receipe and in the product I am using. Can you tell me where I can obtain a better form? I will be making this and want the purest formula I can make. I also was very intrigued and interested in your comments about it having 'an attenuating effect on catecholamine metabolism, and adrenal and neurotransmitter supporting effect, possibly related to

its energizing effect'. All three of these areas I've been working on supporting and trying to bring balance to for years. Any additinal information you can share with me regarding your experience with liposomal C would be very much appreciated. What dosages do you find work best for you? Thank you Sage Anne, I've been making and using liposome vitamin C for the past few years. it's good stuff. I believe it's many times more effective than what people are reporting. It has helped me in many areas, especially my allergies and a nagging CFS related viral infection. It appears to exert a powerful immune modulating effect. I think it also has an attenuating effect on catecholamine metabolism, an adrenal and neurotransmitter supporting effect, possibly related to its energizing effect. And it appears to have a beneficial effect on complexion, i believe collagen related. . . among other

benefits. I use liposome C as part of the Matthias Rath protocol: vit.c, lysine and proline, for its anti-mutagenic, increased circulation and anti viral effects. It's this combination which, I believe, has made an unintended difference in my complexion. I use a special pharmaceutical grade of nano-liposomes not available in the retail market, in a proprietary patent pending formula, so this may have made a difference in my experiences, I don't know. I've not used the popular "home made" formula, and I see no reason why one couldn't get similar results. A few considerations: For those already high in iron, high doses of vitamin c could potentially increase their iron levels, and it's not clear there's a problem for most from the feedback I've received. Also, it's important to take it on an empty stomach separate from other supplements and drugs. It could potentially interfere with their

intended effectiveness. A necessary caution: liposomes have the potential to interfere with the therapeutic actions of highly toxic drugs, i.e. chemotherapeutic agents, delivering them to unintended cellular and tissue sites. The inexact science of interacting complexities of drugs and liposomes can't be overemphasized, both in their ability to deliver agents and their cellular fluidizing effects. All applications should be considered experimental and ideally be monitored by a healthcare professional. Greg

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Well, I have been using non-GMO soy lecithin, but so far, I can't find any marked totally organic. One of the blogs that turned up in my Google search showed a post from a guy who wanted to try egg lecithin, but he had not reported it if worked. I don't know if the other vegetable lecithins would work, either, which is one of the reasons I bought the book I have lost... I just read a comparison between sunflower lecithin & soy lecithin, & the factors are different enough that I don't know if they will do the liposome dance. Please let me know if you find any info on that.AnneOn Dec 4, 2010, at 3:12 PM, david kenna wrote: Anne ,what anout lecithin from othr sources or indeed from organic soy?From: Anne Seals <anneseals@...>iodine Sent: Sat, 4 December, 2010 21:27:39Subject: Re: Pharmaceutical grade nano-liposomes I had a lot of reservations about the soy, too. As a rule, I avoid soy like the plague. My son is on the autistic spectrum, & most of our children are taken off soy (as well as gluten & dairy.) But one of my friends takes her son to the premier DAN! doctor in the northwest, & he told her that our kids need the lecithin, & that the part of the soy that affects them is not present in lecithin.I got the book (a tiny one!) on liposomal technology, & promptly lost it. When I find it again & get a chance to read it, I will report if I find anything else pertinent. But so far, it seems clear that lecithin is crucial to the process.AnneOn Dec 4, 2010, at 11:44 AM, Sage wrote: Greg, In reference to your post below . . . I've started to take some Liposomal Vit C from NanoLiposomal Nutritionals after reading Anne's post. I am totally impressed and with the iodine and all companion nutrients my health is taking on a completely long, long awaited dramtic postive change! I have order the sonic mixer and the the ingredients per Anne's receipe. I have some concerns about the soy lecithin even non-GMO. I especially noticed your reference to 'special pharmaceutical grade nano-liposomes'. I am assuming lecithin is a form of the nano-liposomes but I am concerned about soy source of this in the home made receipe and in the product I am using. Can you tell me where I can obtain a better form? I will be making this and want the purest formula I can make. I also was very intrigued and interested in your comments about it having 'an attenuating effect on catecholamine metabolism, and adrenal and neurotransmitter supporting effect, possibly related to its energizing effect'. All three of these areas I've been working on supporting and trying to bring balance to for years. Any additinal information you can share with me regarding your experience with liposomal C would be very much appreciated. What dosages do you find work best for you? Thank you Sage Anne, I've been making and using liposome vitamin C for the past few years. it's good stuff. I believe it's many times more effective than what people are reporting. It has helped me in many areas, especially my allergies and a nagging CFS related viral infection. It appears to exert a powerful immune modulating effect. I think it also has an attenuating effect on catecholamine metabolism, an adrenal and neurotransmitter supporting effect, possibly related to its energizing effect. And it appears to have a beneficial effect on complexion, i believe collagen related. . . among other benefits. I use liposome C as part of the Matthias Rath protocol: vit.c, lysine and proline, for its anti-mutagenic, increased circulation and anti viral effects. It's this combination which, I believe, has made an unintended difference in my complexion. I use a special pharmaceutical grade of nano-liposomes not available in the retail market, in a proprietary patent pending formula, so this may have made a difference in my experiences, I don't know. I've not used the popular "home made" formula, and I see no reason why one couldn't get similar results. A few considerations: For those already high in iron, high doses of vitamin c could potentially increase their iron levels, and it's not clear there's a problem for most from the feedback I've received. Also, it's important to take it on an empty stomach separate from other supplements and drugs. It could potentially interfere with their intended effectiveness. A necessary caution: liposomes have the potential to interfere with the therapeutic actions of highly toxic drugs, i.e. chemotherapeutic agents, delivering them to unintended cellular and tissue sites. The inexact science of interacting complexities of drugs and liposomes can't be overemphasized, both in their ability to deliver agents and their cellular fluidizing effects. All applications should be considered experimental and ideally be monitored by a healthcare professional. Greg