RE: For - Beginner Questions

[Guest guest]

>I have recently found through bloodwork that I may be hypothyroid. My

>health issues for a few years have included chronic allergies, fatigue,

>weight issues and poor digestive and periodontal health.

>These were my results from Labcorp -

>

>i. High TSH - 2.07 up from 2.02 (2006 test result)

>ii. Low Free Serum T4 ­ 0.97 (test range 0.82 ­ 1.77)

>iii. Low Free Serum T3 ­ 2.6 (test range 2.0 ­ 4.4)

>iv. Thyroid Antibodies tests were negative

>Based on these borderline low thyroid symptoms, my doctor suggested

>Naturthroid to me.

>I would prefer to try natural supplementation before going the HRT route

>and I have some questions of and some other experts on this group ­

I'm no expert but it looks to me like you would be a good candidate for

trying iodine before thyroid hormone.

>1. I have been reading some forums. I have found proponents of

>Iodorol as well as the SSKI/ Magnascent Iodine combination. Any insight

>into which may be recommended for a beginner on the protocol would be

>appreciated.

The iodine protocol as advocated by this list is for Iodoral or Lugol's,

plus the companion supplements etc. SSKI/Magnascent has nowhere near the

therapeutic levels of iodine that are needed to detox the body and saturate

it with the iodine it needs for optimal functioning. I used SSKI for years

before I switched to this protocol, and this difference is night and day in

terms of physical response.

>

>2. Also, is the Iodine Urine Loading test is the essential first step

>to the supplementation w Iodorol or SSKI/ Magnascent combination?

No, it is unnecessary. If you get it, it gives you a baseline number so you

will know later where you started. That's all.

>3. Any recommendations of a Iodine literate doctor in northern CA,

>San Fran Bay Area? I have a link to the doctors page from this group, but

>wondering if anyone here from CA has a personal recommendation for a good

>endocrinologist in the area.

>4. I understand additional supplements like Se, zinc etc are needed

>to optimize the absorption of Iodide/ iodine and am wondering if a

>combined product like Enzymatic Therapy Fatigued to Fantastic would work

>or if these supplements need to be taken individually?

>http://www.iherb.com/Enzymatic-Therapy-Fatigued-to-Fantastic-Energy-Revitalizat\

ion-System-Berry-Splash-19-oz-540-g-30-UltraCaps/2176?at=0

I don't know that product but as long as the necessary levels of the

companion nutrients are in whatever supplements you are taking, that is

sufficient. I get part of my Vit C and selenium from my multivitamin, for

instance.

hope this helps.

--

~~~ There is no way to peace; peace is the way ~~~~

--A.J. Muste

[Guest guest]

Hi!

Adding my comments to ’s.

Donna in IL

>I have recently found through bloodwork that I may be hypothyroid. My

>health issues for a few years have included chronic allergies, fatigue,

>weight issues and poor digestive and periodontal health.

>These were my results from Labcorp -

>

>i. High TSH - 2.07 up from 2.02 (2006 test result)

>ii. Low Free Serum T4 ­ 0.97 (test range 0.82 ­ 1.77)

>iii. Low Free Serum T3 ­ 2.6 (test range 2.0 ­ 4.4)

>iv. Thyroid Antibodies tests were negative

>Based on these borderline low thyroid symptoms, my doctor suggested

>Naturthroid to me.

>I would prefer to try natural supplementation before going the HRT route

>and I have some questions of and some other experts on this group

­

I'm no expert but it looks to me like you would be a good candidate for

trying iodine before thyroid hormone.

I would do both

thyroid hormone and iodine with your intense problems. Help get your body

running at the proper level now. For some people just taking iodine will get

the thyroid running properly again, but those who have had problems for a while

don’t necessarily have it function well again.

I would also be

doing intense probiotics for the digestive issues. Getting your gut healed is

key to your body being able to absorb the supplements.

Are you saying

Naturethroid is HRT? I wouldn’t put them together HRT is usually hormones

like progesterone, estrogen, testosterone.

>1. I have been reading some forums. I have found proponents of

>Iodorol as well as the SSKI/ Magnascent Iodine combination. Any insight

>into which may be recommended for a beginner on the protocol would be

>appreciated.

The iodine protocol as advocated by this list is for Iodoral or Lugol's,

plus the companion supplements etc. SSKI/Magnascent has nowhere near the

therapeutic levels of iodine that are needed to detox the body and saturate

it with the iodine it needs for optimal functioning. I used SSKI for years

before I switched to this protocol, and this difference is night and day in

terms of physical response.

>

>2. Also, is the Iodine Urine Loading test is the essential first step

>to the supplementation w Iodorol or SSKI/ Magnascent combination?

No, it is unnecessary. If you get it, it gives you a baseline number so you

will know later where you started. That's all.

>3. Any recommendations of a Iodine literate doctor in northern CA,

>San Fran Bay Area? I have a link to the doctors page from this group, but

>wondering if anyone here from CA has a personal recommendation for a good

>endocrinologist in the area.

>4. I understand additional supplements like Se, zinc etc are needed

>to optimize the absorption of Iodide/ iodine and am wondering if a

>combined product like Enzymatic Therapy Fatigued to Fantastic would work

>or if these supplements need to be taken individually?

>http://www.iherb.com/Enzymatic-Therapy-Fatigued-to-Fantastic-Energy-Revitalization-System-Berry-Splash-19-oz-540-g-30-UltraCaps/2176?at=0

I don't know that product but as long as the necessary levels of the

companion nutrients are in whatever supplements you are taking, that is

sufficient. I get part of my Vit C and selenium from my multivitamin, for

instance.

It seems like many combos don’t have enough of

what is needed, so you have to take a lot. Or they use lesser forms of the

supplements. For example, many multis that have magnesium in them use magnesium

oxide, the cheapest form, but the least absorbable by your body, so basically

worthless. Check their levels against the recommended levels and forms.

hope this helps.

--

~~~ There is no way to peace; peace is the way ~~~~

--A.J. Muste

[Guest guest]

, Donna -

Thanks a lot for taking the time to respond to my questions.

I am trying to see if I can manage to optimize thyroid function by just doing

the Iodide/ Iodine supplementation w the companion nutrients. Do u think there

is a possibility of getting off a hormone like Naturethroid once Idoine had

optimized thyroid funtion in a hypothyroid patient? Kind of not keen on being on

a glandular hormone for life at 35!

I guess the SSKI/Magnascent iodine I am talking about is very similar to Iodorol

in function, and available on Ebay under the seller name " Trapper " and I have

read some good reviews about the combination.

For supporting nutrients I think u feel individual supplementation may be the

way to go.

I already take Vitamin C (Allergy Research Group, in powder form)

For magnesium I just started spraying 3-4 sprays of the Ancient Minerals Mg oil

on my stomach, and am not sure how much magnesium does that translate into

transdermally.

As far as Selenium and Zinc are concerned I was considering getting the WaterOz

Minerals in liquid form. Please let me know if u think these are good choices

and if any other supporting minerals are needed.

How do I determine how much Iodorol or SSKI/Magnascent Iodine to start with? I

wish I knew a doctor in the bay area to guide me through this.

Thanks a ton again for all ur time with this.

Puja

>

> Hi!

> Adding my comments to 's.

> Donna in IL

>

>

> >I have recently found through bloodwork that I may be hypothyroid. My

> >health issues for a few years have included chronic allergies, fatigue,

> >weight issues and poor digestive and periodontal health.

> >These were my results from Labcorp -

> >

> >i. High TSH - 2.07 up from 2.02 (2006 test result)

> >ii. Low Free Serum T4 0.97 (test range 0.82 1.77)

> >iii. Low Free Serum T3 2.6 (test range 2.0 4.4)

> >iv. Thyroid Antibodies tests were negative

> >Based on these borderline low thyroid symptoms, my doctor suggested

> >Naturthroid to me.

> >I would prefer to try natural supplementation before going the HRT route

> >and I have some questions of and some other experts on this group

>

> I'm no expert but it looks to me like you would be a good candidate for

> trying iodine before thyroid hormone.

>

> I would do both thyroid hormone and iodine with your intense problems. Help

get your body running at the proper level now. For some people just taking

iodine will get the thyroid running properly again, but those who have had

problems for a while don't necessarily have it function well again.

>

> I would also be doing intense probiotics for the digestive issues. Getting

your gut healed is key to your body being able to absorb the supplements.

>

> Are you saying Naturethroid is HRT? I wouldn't put them together HRT is

usually hormones like progesterone, estrogen, testosterone.

>

> >1. I have been reading some forums. I have found proponents of

> >Iodorol as well as the SSKI/ Magnascent Iodine combination. Any insight

> >into which may be recommended for a beginner on the protocol would be

> >appreciated.

>

> The iodine protocol as advocated by this list is for Iodoral or Lugol's,

> plus the companion supplements etc. SSKI/Magnascent has nowhere near the

> therapeutic levels of iodine that are needed to detox the body and saturate

> it with the iodine it needs for optimal functioning. I used SSKI for years

> before I switched to this protocol, and this difference is night and day in

> terms of physical response.

>

> >

> >2. Also, is the Iodine Urine Loading test is the essential first step

> >to the supplementation w Iodorol or SSKI/ Magnascent combination?

>

> No, it is unnecessary. If you get it, it gives you a baseline number so you

> will know later where you started. That's all.

>

> >3. Any recommendations of a Iodine literate doctor in northern CA,

> >San Fran Bay Area? I have a link to the doctors page from this group, but

> >wondering if anyone here from CA has a personal recommendation for a good

> >endocrinologist in the area.

> >4. I understand additional supplements like Se, zinc etc are needed

> >to optimize the absorption of Iodide/ iodine and am wondering if a

> >combined product like Enzymatic Therapy Fatigued to Fantastic would work

> >or if these supplements need to be taken individually?

>

>http://www.iherb.com/Enzymatic-Therapy-Fatigued-to-Fantastic-Energy-Revitalizat\

ion-System-Berry-Splash-19-oz-540-g-30-UltraCaps/2176?at=0

>

> I don't know that product but as long as the necessary levels of the

> companion nutrients are in whatever supplements you are taking, that is

> sufficient. I get part of my Vit C and selenium from my multivitamin, for

> instance.

> It seems like many combos don't have enough of what is needed, so you have to

take a lot. Or they use lesser forms of the supplements. For example, many

multis that have magnesium in them use magnesium oxide, the cheapest form, but

the least absorbable by your body, so basically worthless. Check their levels

against the recommended levels and forms.

>

> hope this helps.

>

> --

>

> ~~~ There is no way to peace; peace is the way ~~~~

> --A.J. Muste

>

> ________________________________

>

[Guest guest]

I read from a post that magnesium oxide is the cheapest form of magnesium and less absorbable to the body. What is the best magnesium and most absorbable to take?

Pam

[Guest guest]

Others, I'm sure, will have more detailed input than me, but we take magnesium

malate by Source Naturals. I buy the 360 count from vitacost.com for about $16.

Start out with 2-3 per day, at mealtime, split between meals, and then increase

to 4-6 per day.

Very absorbable

>

> I read from a post that magnesium oxide is the cheapest form of magnesium and

less absorbable to the body.  What is the best magnesium and most absorbable to

take?

> Pam

>

[Guest guest]

I use Mag Malate because it's good for the muscles also, and I grind my teeth at

night. If you have any heart problems in the family, you might use Mag Taurate,

as the Taurine is good for the heart.

Citrate is also well absorbed.

If you have Autoimmune Diseases, Hans Nieper recommends Mag Orotate, which

supposedly goes right thru the cell membrane and into the cell.

Beverly

> >

> > I read from a post that magnesium oxide is the cheapest form of magnesium

and less absorbable to the body.  What is the best magnesium and most absorbable

to take?

> > Pam

> >

>

[Guest guest]

For me a swollen face was a sign of too much cortisol. That will also cause

weight gain in the middle of the body because it keeps blood sugar way too high.

Dianne

> > >

> > > I read from a post that magnesium oxide is the cheapest form of

> > magnesium and less absorbable to the body. What is the best magnesium

> > and most absorbable to take?

> > > Pam

> > >

> >

> >

> >

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> --A.J. Muste

>

[Guest guest]

That can also be caused by an estrogen/progesterone imbalance. That's how I

gained 18 pounds years ago in just a couple of months alhough I blamed that on

low thyroid. If progesterone is too high it will raise cortisol but if it is

in balance with estrogen it will have a diuretic effect on the body. If estrogen

is too high in relation to progesterone then the thyroid doesn't work right, the

body retains fluid, etc.

Low blood sugar will cause this because the body will raise cortisol to fix that

problem. Gluten can cause this because it creates inflammation that cortisol

responds to by going up to fight that.

So lots of things make cortisol rise on it's own, not just supplementing with

it.

Dianne

>

>

> From: Dianne <dwarrickh@...>

> Subject: Re: For - Beginner Questions

> iodine

> Date: Wednesday, April 7, 2010, 8:30 AM

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> For me a swollen face was a sign of too much cortisol. That will also cause

weight gain in the middle of the body because it keeps blood sugar way too high.

>

> Dianne