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Hey ,

The other Sandi here. I hope is feeling better soon. Is he still on

Zithromax? Bri's about ready for another round, I can tell by the SINUS

INFECTION BEHAVIOR. But I had hoped would be better. Take care.

Sandi--Mom to , age 8. Suspected IgA def., Tetrology of Falot, chronic

sinusitis, chronic ear infections (with tubes), severe allergies. Nine

surgeries, one pending.

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Hi ,

It's so nice to hear from you!! I have been wondering about you guys.

First of all, good for you--fight as much as you need--to get things done.

Does have an IEP? About the sinuses, it does sound like he could be

infected. only sneezes when he has a sinus infection, and he has

severe allergies. It is one of the special things he does, but it is unique

to him and I always know he is infected if he is sneezing. This year, the

grass and pollen counts are extremely high. People with allergies are all

having a difficult time, could be reacting to that. Do you use nose

spray? Also, Bri is on one and a half Zyrtec, which is a very high dose, but

he needs it. Maybe needs something stronger?

Take care--

Sandi--Mom to , age 9. Suspected IgA def., Tetrology of Fallot,

chronic sinusitis, chronic ear infections, asthma, severe allergies, GERD.

Ten surgeries, heart surgery pending.

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- allergies are a constant source of aggravation with Les and and

both have been through numerous meds and

different allergy shots to no avail. With 's problem being too much IgE

I'm really at a loss on what might help.

It just seems like there's so much of it to cause trouble that I'm not sure what

meds could possibly help. It's really

a unique situation and one that I'm sad to say I'm just not familiar with. Any

new treatment protocols lately for Hyper

IgE? I think that's where some relief might lay is with treating the PID more

aggressively and calming that down. I'm

hoping also that things with the school system go better and that takes some of

the stress of you.

Ursula Holleman

Macey's mom (7 yr. old with CVID, asthma, sinus disease, GERD, Sensory

Integration Disorder, Diabetes Insipidus, colonic

inertia)

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Sandi:

One of 's peds (not the one yesterday) has pressed the otoscope against

her cheek on the outside and looked inside her mouth toward the upper cheek.

He called it a " cheap CT scan " . I thought it was pretty clever. Next time I

will ask him how he did it so I can do it at home and maybe save a needless

co-pay sometime (or know to go in when I'm hesitating).

(mom to Kate, born 9/19/02; and , age 3-3/4 -- currently has

polysaccharide antibody def, previously had transient IgG, IgA, t-cell &

other defs)

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Sandi:

One of 's peds (not the one yesterday) has pressed the otoscope against

her cheek on the outside and looked inside her mouth toward the upper cheek.

He called it a " cheap CT scan " . I thought it was pretty clever. Next time I

will ask him how he did it so I can do it at home and maybe save a needless

co-pay sometime (or know to go in when I'm hesitating).

(mom to Kate, born 9/19/02; and , age 3-3/4 -- currently has

polysaccharide antibody def, previously had transient IgG, IgA, t-cell &

other defs)

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Hi everyone,

Can you tell I'm VERY behind on reading/answering messages?! I did

want to comment on the use of the lights to create another way to figure

out if sinuses are infected.

It's called " transducing " and different docs have different opinions

about how reliable the results are -- it is more a " feel " thing than a

true scientific process, but it's worth a try. The easiest thing to do

is buy a small, intense flashlight (those little metal ones work well),

but not a laser type of light, because they don't spread the light

around (it's more one intense stream of light), and they can damage eyes

if kids look right at them. Just put the light flat against the skin,

all around the cheekbones and upper jaw areas, and get a feel for how

the underlying tissue illuminates -- how it looks when the child is

well and when they're infected... as I said, some put more faith in this

than others, but it will only cost a few bucks for a decent flashlight

that can be used for other things, so it's not really a big outlay to

test it.

Hope that helps,

>

> Sandi:

>

> One of 's peds (not the one yesterday) has pressed the otoscope against

> her cheek on the outside and looked inside her mouth toward the upper cheek.

> He called it a " cheap CT scan " . I thought it was pretty clever.t

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Bonnie - first of all being diagnosed with Mantle Cell, getting scared to

death, and then being told that you have SLL/CLL is not uncommon. Apparently

under the microscope the two look similar. So, as far as possible, be

pleased.....

MANY of us have sinus problems. I have not heard a definitive explanation of

why this is so, only several half baked ones which I will not even pass on.

(Has anyone else heard a realistic explanation?)

We all cope in different ways. Personally, here is my arsenal of weaponry:

There is an over the counter product called ALKOLOL. With a baby syringe (5

cc) take half ALK and half warm water, put such into each nostril, lean back,

hold as long as you can (it stings a little) then let it all flow into a towel.

Blow your nose. Cleans you out nicely.

Second, I use a steroid nose spray called NASAREL.

Third, we discovered a great antibiotic spray. Take a 40 ml little bottle of

Ocean Spray (or similar), buy a 22 gm tube of BACTROBAN. Pry open top of Ocean

Spray, squeeze in about 1/4 (5 gm) of the Bactroban, close, shake vigorously,

use as spray when you get colored (bacteria polluted) discharge.

Finally, you can use AFRIN, but sparingly, only 2-3 times, then lay off for

at least a week.

Good luck,

Balan

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I've been dealing with this for the last 4 years, and no one has an

answer. Anti-Biotics don't help, and allowed them to " fix " my deviated

septum (I can't remember what that surgery is called) and wound up in the

ICU! It didn't help at all. My sinuses are worse at night, as if I sleep on

my sides I can't breath through my nose at all.

PS...I have read and will reply to all that have written me, but I'm

hurting with another ******* ******* headache!!!!!

Kirk

2008/5/29 Sharon :

> Hi guys do any of you have sinus infections that dont seem to go away?

> Any advice? I have had one that drips into my lungs and aggravates my

> asthma. This is the 2nd round of strong anti biotics and I think I

> might have to get intravenous anti biotics in the hospital. I used

> something to wash out my sinuses but it didnt work. Ugh, I am so tired

> and stuffy. Thank you for listening and for being there. Love Sharon

> xxoo

>

>

>

--

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Hi Guys,

I'm new and have been reading many of the posts regarding stills.

I was diagnosed in March, however from reading I appear to have a

very light case of it. I've primarily had fevers and arthritis pain

and it's been under control with merely taking 1000mg of Naproxen.

Hopefully I go into remission and don't deal with it anymore. My

biggest fear is arthritic hands because I'm a magician specializing

in sleight of hand with cards.... the joint pain will put a damper on

that! But... I'm going to be and remain positive.

Regarding the Sinus problems.

1. I had my right side 95% blocked due to a deviated septum.

2. The passages between my sinuses were naturally small

3. I was diagnosed in 2000 with chronic sinusitus: a condition

where you basically have a low grade sinus infection very frequently

to all the time including pollups in the cavity. I went on

antibiotics and steroids for a 10 days for 9 months on monthly

intervals. Each time I did a treatment the sinus responded and it's

HEAVEN!!!! I slept solidly for the first time in many years.

However, shortly after the treatments the condition was back and the

gains all lost.

4. Also did sinus rinsing. Neilmed Bottle w/ their packets

(although you don't need to buy their little solution packets you can

make it yourself, email me if you want to know how

royaljenner@...) and save money. Neilmed makes money on the

packets, not the bottle.

5. Summer 01 I decided enough is enough and had surgery! It is a

very invasive process in your head. You will be " down and out " for 2

weeks. BUT... it's heaven afterwards. I would do it again darn near

on a yearly basis for the relief.

I've only had one sinus infection since 01!!!! Sweet!

email me if you want more input.

Later.... Gotta' " go make the donuts " .

Royal

>

> I've been dealing with this for the last 4 years, and no one has

an

> answer. Anti-Biotics don't help, and allowed them to " fix " my

deviated

> septum (I can't remember what that surgery is called) and wound up

in the

> ICU! It didn't help at all. My sinuses are worse at night, as if I

sleep on

> my sides I can't breath through my nose at all.

> PS...I have read and will reply to all that have written me, but

I'm

> hurting with another ******* ******* headache!!!!!

> Kirk

>

> 2008/5/29 Sharon :

>

> > Hi guys do any of you have sinus infections that dont seem to

go away?

> > Any advice? I have had one that drips into my lungs and

aggravates my

> > asthma. This is the 2nd round of strong anti biotics and I think I

> > might have to get intravenous anti biotics in the hospital. I used

> > something to wash out my sinuses but it didnt work. Ugh, I am so

tired

> > and stuffy. Thank you for listening and for being there. Love

Sharon

> > xxoo

> >

> >

> >

>

>

>

> --

> Everything in life sucks except things that should!

>

>

>

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Hi Guys,

I'm new and have been reading many of the posts regarding stills.

I was diagnosed in March, however from reading I appear to have a

very light case of it. I've primarily had fevers and arthritis pain

and it's been under control with merely taking 1000mg of Naproxen.

Hopefully I go into remission and don't deal with it anymore. My

biggest fear is arthritic hands because I'm a magician specializing

in sleight of hand with cards.... the joint pain will put a damper on

that! But... I'm going to be and remain positive.

Regarding the Sinus problems.

1. I had my right side 95% blocked due to a deviated septum.

2. The passages between my sinuses were naturally small

3. I was diagnosed in 2000 with chronic sinusitus: a condition

where you basically have a low grade sinus infection very frequently

to all the time including pollups in the cavity. I went on

antibiotics and steroids for a 10 days for 9 months on monthly

intervals. Each time I did a treatment the sinus responded and it's

HEAVEN!!!! I slept solidly for the first time in many years.

However, shortly after the treatments the condition was back and the

gains all lost.

4. Also did sinus rinsing. Neilmed Bottle w/ their packets

(although you don't need to buy their little solution packets you can

make it yourself, email me if you want to know how

royaljenner@...) and save money. Neilmed makes money on the

packets, not the bottle.

5. Summer 01 I decided enough is enough and had surgery! It is a

very invasive process in your head. You will be " down and out " for 2

weeks. BUT... it's heaven afterwards. I would do it again darn near

on a yearly basis for the relief.

I've only had one sinus infection since 01!!!! Sweet!

email me if you want more input.

Later.... Gotta' " go make the donuts " .

Royal

>

> I've been dealing with this for the last 4 years, and no one has

an

> answer. Anti-Biotics don't help, and allowed them to " fix " my

deviated

> septum (I can't remember what that surgery is called) and wound up

in the

> ICU! It didn't help at all. My sinuses are worse at night, as if I

sleep on

> my sides I can't breath through my nose at all.

> PS...I have read and will reply to all that have written me, but

I'm

> hurting with another ******* ******* headache!!!!!

> Kirk

>

> 2008/5/29 Sharon :

>

> > Hi guys do any of you have sinus infections that dont seem to

go away?

> > Any advice? I have had one that drips into my lungs and

aggravates my

> > asthma. This is the 2nd round of strong anti biotics and I think I

> > might have to get intravenous anti biotics in the hospital. I used

> > something to wash out my sinuses but it didnt work. Ugh, I am so

tired

> > and stuffy. Thank you for listening and for being there. Love

Sharon

> > xxoo

> >

> >

> >

>

>

>

> --

> Everything in life sucks except things that should!

>

>

>

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Kirk;

 If you do the surgery start with a good attitude by making your self believe

this tie it will be okay and then let them know to use restrans on you at all

times then you can not get at them or you’re self LOL. I know I had my sinuses

scrapped and wow I could breathe. this was done to see if a full surgery would

work .I do not believe they do that any more but it worked .I also did not have

stills at the time . I would come home of Fridays with the most horde head aches

ever. Like you I wanted to pull my eyes out. This was my sinuses being affected

by the chemicals we used cleaning the printing presses were I worked as a

printer before driving a bus. You know after leaving that job and driving busses

I rarely had head aches after that. So what I am saying some can be over

reactive to things that fire them off and finding that can be hard they never

put it together for me only a job change did that. My sister has the same

trouble only hers was her

lungs and now she is out of work from it as it damaged her so much. She never

smelt them but she would lock up breathing from them. I was a 48 hr hazmat

responder and I can tell you there are things that if you smell them it is an

over exposer and others you could not take the smell and you will leave the area

yet they will never hurt you. it takes a very very small parts per million of

skunk smell to make you want to leave yet it is so small it will never hurt you

as you could not stand it at the level yet another one will get you and you will

never smell it and have to us a detector to measure it's level . a side note I

was classified to a lev 3 contamination and confided air spaces were I would use

what looked like scuba gear and police only have 8 hrs training and fire

department responders only had 8 hours more then what I went threw . I was even

okay for a class 3 nuke spill clean up that’s how far the training went so try

changing things be

they at work or home change cleaning chems and such even after shave or perfume

hair spray ect it could be any thing or nothing but all ya can do is try

 

the  rednecks

Marty & G. 

 

“Some men rob you with a six-gun - others with a fountain pen.”

7 days with out Jesus makes one weak

Before giving someone a piece of mind be sure you have enough to spare!

Buy a gun support the constitution and  Piss off the liberals

Gun control is a steady hand.

Fight Socialism...Vote Republican

we outlaw guns, only outlaws will have guns.

   

Stills ; An illness I know to well!

To learn about Stills  http://www.stillsdisease.org/stills_info

 

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Kirk;

 If you do the surgery start with a good attitude by making your self believe

this tie it will be okay and then let them know to use restrans on you at all

times then you can not get at them or you’re self LOL. I know I had my sinuses

scrapped and wow I could breathe. this was done to see if a full surgery would

work .I do not believe they do that any more but it worked .I also did not have

stills at the time . I would come home of Fridays with the most horde head aches

ever. Like you I wanted to pull my eyes out. This was my sinuses being affected

by the chemicals we used cleaning the printing presses were I worked as a

printer before driving a bus. You know after leaving that job and driving busses

I rarely had head aches after that. So what I am saying some can be over

reactive to things that fire them off and finding that can be hard they never

put it together for me only a job change did that. My sister has the same

trouble only hers was her

lungs and now she is out of work from it as it damaged her so much. She never

smelt them but she would lock up breathing from them. I was a 48 hr hazmat

responder and I can tell you there are things that if you smell them it is an

over exposer and others you could not take the smell and you will leave the area

yet they will never hurt you. it takes a very very small parts per million of

skunk smell to make you want to leave yet it is so small it will never hurt you

as you could not stand it at the level yet another one will get you and you will

never smell it and have to us a detector to measure it's level . a side note I

was classified to a lev 3 contamination and confided air spaces were I would use

what looked like scuba gear and police only have 8 hrs training and fire

department responders only had 8 hours more then what I went threw . I was even

okay for a class 3 nuke spill clean up that’s how far the training went so try

changing things be

they at work or home change cleaning chems and such even after shave or perfume

hair spray ect it could be any thing or nothing but all ya can do is try

 

the  rednecks

Marty & G. 

 

“Some men rob you with a six-gun - others with a fountain pen.”

7 days with out Jesus makes one weak

Before giving someone a piece of mind be sure you have enough to spare!

Buy a gun support the constitution and  Piss off the liberals

Gun control is a steady hand.

Fight Socialism...Vote Republican

we outlaw guns, only outlaws will have guns.

   

Stills ; An illness I know to well!

To learn about Stills  http://www.stillsdisease.org/stills_info

 

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Kirk;

 If you do the surgery start with a good attitude by making your self believe

this tie it will be okay and then let them know to use restrans on you at all

times then you can not get at them or you’re self LOL. I know I had my sinuses

scrapped and wow I could breathe. this was done to see if a full surgery would

work .I do not believe they do that any more but it worked .I also did not have

stills at the time . I would come home of Fridays with the most horde head aches

ever. Like you I wanted to pull my eyes out. This was my sinuses being affected

by the chemicals we used cleaning the printing presses were I worked as a

printer before driving a bus. You know after leaving that job and driving busses

I rarely had head aches after that. So what I am saying some can be over

reactive to things that fire them off and finding that can be hard they never

put it together for me only a job change did that. My sister has the same

trouble only hers was her

lungs and now she is out of work from it as it damaged her so much. She never

smelt them but she would lock up breathing from them. I was a 48 hr hazmat

responder and I can tell you there are things that if you smell them it is an

over exposer and others you could not take the smell and you will leave the area

yet they will never hurt you. it takes a very very small parts per million of

skunk smell to make you want to leave yet it is so small it will never hurt you

as you could not stand it at the level yet another one will get you and you will

never smell it and have to us a detector to measure it's level . a side note I

was classified to a lev 3 contamination and confided air spaces were I would use

what looked like scuba gear and police only have 8 hrs training and fire

department responders only had 8 hours more then what I went threw . I was even

okay for a class 3 nuke spill clean up that’s how far the training went so try

changing things be

they at work or home change cleaning chems and such even after shave or perfume

hair spray ect it could be any thing or nothing but all ya can do is try

 

the  rednecks

Marty & G. 

 

“Some men rob you with a six-gun - others with a fountain pen.”

7 days with out Jesus makes one weak

Before giving someone a piece of mind be sure you have enough to spare!

Buy a gun support the constitution and  Piss off the liberals

Gun control is a steady hand.

Fight Socialism...Vote Republican

we outlaw guns, only outlaws will have guns.

   

Stills ; An illness I know to well!

To learn about Stills  http://www.stillsdisease.org/stills_info

 

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Nice to meet you Royal and thank you for the information, I'm sure it helps

others. I just wanted to say many years ago at onset my wrists were some of my

worst joints and although have damage they are still good and I can use them

normally pretty much so keep the good thoughts and hopefully your Still's will

leave little to no long lasting ill effects. Our wish for you and all.

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Hi Guys,

I'm new and have been reading many of the posts regarding stills.

I was diagnosed in March, however from reading I appear to have a

very light case of it.

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Nice to meet you Royal and thank you for the information, I'm sure it helps

others. I just wanted to say many years ago at onset my wrists were some of my

worst joints and although have damage they are still good and I can use them

normally pretty much so keep the good thoughts and hopefully your Still's will

leave little to no long lasting ill effects. Our wish for you and all.

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Hi Guys,

I'm new and have been reading many of the posts regarding stills.

I was diagnosed in March, however from reading I appear to have a

very light case of it.

Recent Activity

a.. 2New Members

b.. 1New Files

Visit Your Group

Yahoo! Health

Memory Loss

Are you at risk

for Alzheimers?

Meditation and

Lovingkindness

A Yahoo! Group

to share and learn.

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your site traffic.

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Marty, my attitude is usually positive and I don't think that is the

problem. My problem stems from Morphine! Each & every time I've been given

morphine I've become hard to handle...yet I don't consciously know it! I

have begged the Anesthesiologists to use something else all to no avail. I

know I have a morphine pump and this may not make sense, but the morphine is

pumped into my spine only, not my blood stream. Even when Dr's have tried

morphine for my headaches I've become violent.

I have asked to be restrained after surgery after my first reaction to

it, yet that request was ignored. The part that hurts me the most is that I

have a great relationship with almost all of my health care providers, and I

sure as hell would hate to lose it due to someones' insistence on using

morphine. I don't understand why this happens to me, but I was told by a few

Dr's that my kind of reaction is not unheard of. The last time it happened

they said I was in obvious agony during surgery so they pumped more & more

into me...........wrong ******* answer!

If anyone has had a similar reaction or can explain why this happens to

me I'd be happy to learn about it.

Adios, Kirk.

2008/5/30 Marty :

> Kirk;

> If you do the surgery start with a good attitude by making your self

> believe this tie it will be okay and then let them know to use restrans on

> you at all times then you can not get at them or you're self LOL. I know I

> had my sinuses scrapped and wow I could breathe. this was done to see if a

> full surgery would work .I do not believe they do that any more but it

> worked .I also did not have stills at the time . I would come home of

> Fridays with the most horde head aches ever. Like you I wanted to pull my

> eyes out. This was my sinuses being affected by the chemicals we used

> cleaning the printing presses were I worked as a printer before driving a

> bus. You know after leaving that job and driving busses I rarely had head

> aches after that. So what I am saying some can be over reactive to things

> that fire them off and finding that can be hard they never put it together

> for me only a job change did that. My sister has the same trouble only hers

> was her

> lungs and now she is out of work from it as it damaged her so much. She

> never smelt them but she would lock up breathing from them. I was a 48 hr

> hazmat responder and I can tell you there are things that if you smell them

> it is an over exposer and others you could not take the smell and you will

> leave the area yet they will never hurt you. it takes a very very small

> parts per million of skunk smell to make you want to leave yet it is so

> small it will never hurt you as you could not stand it at the level yet

> another one will get you and you will never smell it and have to us a

> detector to measure it's level . a side note I was classified to a lev 3

> contamination and confided air spaces were I would use what looked like

> scuba gear and police only have 8 hrs training and fire department

> responders only had 8 hours more then what I went threw . I was even okay

> for a class 3 nuke spill clean up that's how far the training went so try

> changing things be

> they at work or home change cleaning chems and such even after shave or

> perfume hair spray ect it could be any thing or nothing but all ya can do is

> try

>

> the rednecks

> Marty & G.

>

> " Some men rob you with a six-gun - others with a fountain pen. "

> 7 days with out Jesus makes one weak

> Before giving someone a piece of mind be sure you have enough to spare!

> Buy a gun support the constitution and Piss off the liberals

> Gun control is a steady hand.

> Fight Socialism...Vote Republican

> we outlaw guns, only outlaws will have guns.

>

> Stills ; An illness I know to well!

> To learn about Stills http://www.stillsdisease.org/stills_info

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

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Marty, my attitude is usually positive and I don't think that is the

problem. My problem stems from Morphine! Each & every time I've been given

morphine I've become hard to handle...yet I don't consciously know it! I

have begged the Anesthesiologists to use something else all to no avail. I

know I have a morphine pump and this may not make sense, but the morphine is

pumped into my spine only, not my blood stream. Even when Dr's have tried

morphine for my headaches I've become violent.

I have asked to be restrained after surgery after my first reaction to

it, yet that request was ignored. The part that hurts me the most is that I

have a great relationship with almost all of my health care providers, and I

sure as hell would hate to lose it due to someones' insistence on using

morphine. I don't understand why this happens to me, but I was told by a few

Dr's that my kind of reaction is not unheard of. The last time it happened

they said I was in obvious agony during surgery so they pumped more & more

into me...........wrong ******* answer!

If anyone has had a similar reaction or can explain why this happens to

me I'd be happy to learn about it.

Adios, Kirk.

2008/5/30 Marty :

> Kirk;

> If you do the surgery start with a good attitude by making your self

> believe this tie it will be okay and then let them know to use restrans on

> you at all times then you can not get at them or you're self LOL. I know I

> had my sinuses scrapped and wow I could breathe. this was done to see if a

> full surgery would work .I do not believe they do that any more but it

> worked .I also did not have stills at the time . I would come home of

> Fridays with the most horde head aches ever. Like you I wanted to pull my

> eyes out. This was my sinuses being affected by the chemicals we used

> cleaning the printing presses were I worked as a printer before driving a

> bus. You know after leaving that job and driving busses I rarely had head

> aches after that. So what I am saying some can be over reactive to things

> that fire them off and finding that can be hard they never put it together

> for me only a job change did that. My sister has the same trouble only hers

> was her

> lungs and now she is out of work from it as it damaged her so much. She

> never smelt them but she would lock up breathing from them. I was a 48 hr

> hazmat responder and I can tell you there are things that if you smell them

> it is an over exposer and others you could not take the smell and you will

> leave the area yet they will never hurt you. it takes a very very small

> parts per million of skunk smell to make you want to leave yet it is so

> small it will never hurt you as you could not stand it at the level yet

> another one will get you and you will never smell it and have to us a

> detector to measure it's level . a side note I was classified to a lev 3

> contamination and confided air spaces were I would use what looked like

> scuba gear and police only have 8 hrs training and fire department

> responders only had 8 hours more then what I went threw . I was even okay

> for a class 3 nuke spill clean up that's how far the training went so try

> changing things be

> they at work or home change cleaning chems and such even after shave or

> perfume hair spray ect it could be any thing or nothing but all ya can do is

> try

>

> the rednecks

> Marty & G.

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> " Some men rob you with a six-gun - others with a fountain pen. "

> 7 days with out Jesus makes one weak

> Before giving someone a piece of mind be sure you have enough to spare!

> Buy a gun support the constitution and Piss off the liberals

> Gun control is a steady hand.

> Fight Socialism...Vote Republican

> we outlaw guns, only outlaws will have guns.

>

> Stills ; An illness I know to well!

> To learn about Stills http://www.stillsdisease.org/stills_info

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Marty, my attitude is usually positive and I don't think that is the

problem. My problem stems from Morphine! Each & every time I've been given

morphine I've become hard to handle...yet I don't consciously know it! I

have begged the Anesthesiologists to use something else all to no avail. I

know I have a morphine pump and this may not make sense, but the morphine is

pumped into my spine only, not my blood stream. Even when Dr's have tried

morphine for my headaches I've become violent.

I have asked to be restrained after surgery after my first reaction to

it, yet that request was ignored. The part that hurts me the most is that I

have a great relationship with almost all of my health care providers, and I

sure as hell would hate to lose it due to someones' insistence on using

morphine. I don't understand why this happens to me, but I was told by a few

Dr's that my kind of reaction is not unheard of. The last time it happened

they said I was in obvious agony during surgery so they pumped more & more

into me...........wrong ******* answer!

If anyone has had a similar reaction or can explain why this happens to

me I'd be happy to learn about it.

Adios, Kirk.

2008/5/30 Marty :

> Kirk;

> If you do the surgery start with a good attitude by making your self

> believe this tie it will be okay and then let them know to use restrans on

> you at all times then you can not get at them or you're self LOL. I know I

> had my sinuses scrapped and wow I could breathe. this was done to see if a

> full surgery would work .I do not believe they do that any more but it

> worked .I also did not have stills at the time . I would come home of

> Fridays with the most horde head aches ever. Like you I wanted to pull my

> eyes out. This was my sinuses being affected by the chemicals we used

> cleaning the printing presses were I worked as a printer before driving a

> bus. You know after leaving that job and driving busses I rarely had head

> aches after that. So what I am saying some can be over reactive to things

> that fire them off and finding that can be hard they never put it together

> for me only a job change did that. My sister has the same trouble only hers

> was her

> lungs and now she is out of work from it as it damaged her so much. She

> never smelt them but she would lock up breathing from them. I was a 48 hr

> hazmat responder and I can tell you there are things that if you smell them

> it is an over exposer and others you could not take the smell and you will

> leave the area yet they will never hurt you. it takes a very very small

> parts per million of skunk smell to make you want to leave yet it is so

> small it will never hurt you as you could not stand it at the level yet

> another one will get you and you will never smell it and have to us a

> detector to measure it's level . a side note I was classified to a lev 3

> contamination and confided air spaces were I would use what looked like

> scuba gear and police only have 8 hrs training and fire department

> responders only had 8 hours more then what I went threw . I was even okay

> for a class 3 nuke spill clean up that's how far the training went so try

> changing things be

> they at work or home change cleaning chems and such even after shave or

> perfume hair spray ect it could be any thing or nothing but all ya can do is

> try

>

> the rednecks

> Marty & G.

>

> " Some men rob you with a six-gun - others with a fountain pen. "

> 7 days with out Jesus makes one weak

> Before giving someone a piece of mind be sure you have enough to spare!

> Buy a gun support the constitution and Piss off the liberals

> Gun control is a steady hand.

> Fight Socialism...Vote Republican

> we outlaw guns, only outlaws will have guns.

>

> Stills ; An illness I know to well!

> To learn about Stills http://www.stillsdisease.org/stills_info

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Kirk I am sorry I never meant you do not have a good out look but i was thinking

how i would be in your shoes and knowing the past I know personal I would be so

stressed out on it I would already be a ( word for a male dog). I will tell ya

my sisters kid who also fight big old bad head acks has the same problem and

well she dose it to her husband and family no one other. I also know when using

that med my dad would get paranoid and start fighting little green men and cuss

and yell at them very loudly. this was never him and at first scared the rest of

us as it would take up to 4 people to even try to physically control him but

they all better had been big Strong men of he would toss them around. on time it

happened and the emergency people that came to the house after a few were hurt

during this asked what he had done for a job  as they could not believe a man so

sick with cancer and as old as he was could trow them around like rag dolls .

this was a

police officer and two firemen who said this. I also know that opium dos it to

me but then that's the family of morphine . again sorry if it sounded like I

believe you were not a pos person as I know you are by reading what you write

when not having a life filled with killer pain

 

the  rednecks

Marty & G. 

 

“Some men rob you with a six-gun - others with a fountain pen.”

7 days with out Jesus makes one weak

Before giving someone a piece of mind be sure you have enough to spare!

Buy a gun support the constitution and  Piss off the liberals

Gun control is a steady hand.

Fight Socialism...Vote Republican

we outlaw guns, only outlaws will have guns.

   

Stills ; An illness I know to well!

To learn about Stills  http://www.stillsdisease.org/stills_info

 

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Don't fret Marty, you came far from insulting me...besides....I like your

posts and you seem like my kind of guy.

Kirk.

2008/6/1 Marty :

> Kirk I am sorry I never meant you do not have a good out look but i was

> thinking how i would be in your shoes and knowing the past I know personal I

> would be so stressed out on it I would already be a ( word for a male dog).

> I will tell ya my sisters kid who also fight big old bad head acks has the

> same problem and well she dose it to her husband and family no one other. I

> also know when using that med my dad would get paranoid and start fighting

> little green men and cuss and yell at them very loudly. this was never him

> and at first scared the rest of us as it would take up to 4 people to even

> try to physically control him but they all better had been big Strong men of

> he would toss them around. on time it happened and the emergency people that

> came to the house after a few were hurt during this asked what he had done

> for a job as they could not believe a man so sick with cancer and as old as

> he was could trow them around like rag dolls . this was a

> police officer and two firemen who said this. I also know that opium dos

> it to me but then that's the family of morphine . again sorry if it sounded

> like I believe you were not a pos person as I know you are by reading what

> you write when not having a life filled with killer pain

>

> the rednecks

> Marty & G.

>

> " Some men rob you with a six-gun - others with a fountain pen. "

> 7 days with out Jesus makes one weak

> Before giving someone a piece of mind be sure you have enough to spare!

> Buy a gun support the constitution and Piss off the liberals

> Gun control is a steady hand.

> Fight Socialism...Vote Republican

> we outlaw guns, only outlaws will have guns.

>

> Stills ; An illness I know to well!

> To learn about Stills http://www.stillsdisease.org/stills_info

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> Marty, my attitude is usually positive and I don't think that is the

> problem. My problem stems from Morphine! Each & every time I've been given

> morphine I've become hard to handle...yet I don't consciously know it! I

>

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