Re: Sjogren's Syndrome & Alli

[Guest guest]

for Sjogren's Syndrome look at low dose naltrexone,like all the other auto-immunes

On Thu, Apr 1, 2010 at 4:23 AM, tpa1212 <guardian601@...> wrote:

 

This info is not for me. I am doing a little research for a friend...Does anyone know about Sjogren's Syndrome & the relationship to iodine, if any? I think Limbrel is given to treat this disease.

How about the drug(?) " Alli " that is sold for weight loss? Does anyone know how it works?Thanks in advance,Tim

[Guest guest]

While everyone likes something that helps, naturally, looking for causes and

natural treatments is the way to solutions, not looking for the magical drug,

even though some help the symptoms and I'm not stating that as completely wrong.

I have found that autoimmune conditions is a rather large subject to tackle and

way too large to get into here. Researching that in particular in one of my main

interests.

MS, arthritus, and many other autoimmune conditionsare being studied by many

good reasearchers.

The causes seem so related. A common thread I am seeing is the following:

Vitamin D deficiency - levels to be over 60 mg/dl 80 is even better.

Molecular mimicry - proteins in the blood similar to tissues involved.

Often related to food allergies/sensitivities/leaky gut and other causes -

primarily gluten, though eggs, milk and others are implicated for some. I see

this condition has been labelled as an autoimmune disorder, which is new to me,

there is the common thread.

Just some thoughts to look for. Maximizing immunity using dietary improvements

never goes wrong for helping and often cures.

Bruce

On Thu, Apr 1, 2010 at 4:23 AM, tpa1212 <guardian601@...> wrote:

This info is not for me. I am doing a little research for a friend...

Does anyone know about Sjogren's Syndrome & the relationship to iodine, if any?

I think Limbrel is given to treat this disease.

How about the drug(?) " Alli " that is sold for weight loss? Does anyone know how

it works?

Thanks in advance,

Tim

[Guest guest]

you better learn about low dose naltrexone before preaching.low dose naltrexone does not function as a drug but it is a trick to boost the endorphines which many people who are auto-immune have shortage of.

On Thu, Apr 1, 2010 at 8:35 AM, Bruce P <bruce@...> wrote:

While everyone likes something that helps, naturally, looking for causes and natural treatments is the way to solutions, not looking for the magical drug, even though some help the symptoms and I'm not stating that as completely wrong.

I have found that autoimmune conditions is a rather large subject to tackle and way too large to get into here. Researching that in particular in one of my main interests.MS, arthritus, and many other autoimmune conditionsare being studied by many good reasearchers.

The causes seem so related. A common thread I am seeing is the following:Vitamin D deficiency - levels to be over 60 mg/dl 80 is even better.Molecular mimicry - proteins in the blood similar to tissues involved.

Often related to food allergies/sensitivities/leaky gut and other causes - primarily gluten, though eggs, milk and others are implicated for some. I see this condition has been labelled as an autoimmune disorder, which is new to me, there is the common thread.

Just some thoughts to look for. Maximizing immunity using dietary improvements never goes wrong  for helping and often cures.Bruce

On Thu, Apr 1, 2010 at 4:23 AM, tpa1212 <guardian601@...> wrote:This info is not for me. I am doing a little research for a friend...

Does anyone know about Sjogren's Syndrome & the relationship to iodine, if any? I think Limbrel is given to treat this disease.How about the drug(?) " Alli " that is sold for weight loss? Does anyone know how it works?

Thanks in advance,Tim------------------------------------

All off topic posts should go to the IodineOT group  IodineOT/Commonly asked questions:   http://tinyurl.com/yhnds5e

[Guest guest]

Preaching?

Is saying nutrition helps now preaching?

the nerve. do not start!

Bruce

Re: Sjogren's Syndrome & Alli

you better learn about low dose naltrexone before preaching.low dose naltrexone does not function as a drug but it is a trick to boost the endorphines which many people who are auto-immune have shortage of.

On Thu, Apr 1, 2010 at 8:35 AM, Bruce P <brucebkdesign (DOT) ca> wrote:

While everyone likes something that helps, naturally, looking for causes and natural treatments is the way to solutions, not looking for the magical drug, even though some help the symptoms and I'm not stating that as completely wrong.I have found that autoimmune conditions is a rather large subject to tackle and way too large to get into here. Researching that in particular in one of my main interests.MS, arthritus, and many other autoimmune conditionsare being studied by many good reasearchers.The causes seem so related. A common thread I am seeing is the following:Vitamin D deficiency - levels to be over 60 mg/dl 80 is even better.Molecular mimicry - proteins in the blood similar to tissues involved.Often related to food allergies/sensitivities/leaky gut and other causes - primarily gluten, though eggs, milk and others are implicated for some. I see this condition has been labelled as an autoimmune disorder, which is new to me, there is the common thread.Just some thoughts to look for. Maximizing immunity using dietary improvements never goes wrong for helping and often cures.Bruce

On Thu, Apr 1, 2010 at 4:23 AM, tpa1212 <guardian601hotmail> wrote:This info is not for me. I am doing a little research for a friend...Does anyone know about Sjogren's Syndrome & the relationship to iodine, if any? I think Limbrel is given to treat this disease.How about the drug(?) "Alli" that is sold for weight loss? Does anyone know how it works?Thanks in advance,Tim------------------------------------

All off topic posts should go to the IodineOT group IodineOT/Commonly asked questions: http://tinyurl.com/yhnds5e

[Guest guest]

not to mention you must have been sitting at my desk and in my library for a number of years to state I haven't checked into it

eh?

Bruce

Re: Sjogren's Syndrome & Alli

you better learn about low dose naltrexone before preaching.low dose naltrexone does not function as a drug but it is a trick to boost the endorphines which many people who are auto-immune have shortage of.

On Thu, Apr 1, 2010 at 8:35 AM, Bruce P <brucebkdesign (DOT) ca> wrote:

While everyone likes something that helps, naturally, looking for causes and natural treatments is the way to solutions, not looking for the magical drug, even though some help the symptoms and I'm not stating that as completely wrong.I have found that autoimmune conditions is a rather large subject to tackle and way too large to get into here. Researching that in particular in one of my main interests.MS, arthritus, and many other autoimmune conditionsare being studied by many good reasearchers.The causes seem so related. A common thread I am seeing is the following:Vitamin D deficiency - levels to be over 60 mg/dl 80 is even better.Molecular mimicry - proteins in the blood similar to tissues involved.Often related to food allergies/sensitivities/leaky gut and other causes - primarily gluten, though eggs, milk and others are implicated for some. I see this condition has been labelled as an autoimmune disorder, which is new to me, there is the common thread.Just some thoughts to look for. Maximizing immunity using dietary improvements never goes wrong for helping and often cures.Bruce

On Thu, Apr 1, 2010 at 4:23 AM, tpa1212 <guardian601hotmail> wrote:This info is not for me. I am doing a little research for a friend...Does anyone know about Sjogren's Syndrome & the relationship to iodine, if any? I think Limbrel is given to treat this disease.How about the drug(?) "Alli" that is sold for weight loss? Does anyone know how it works?Thanks in advance,Tim------------------------------------

All off topic posts should go to the IodineOT group IodineOT/Commonly asked questions: http://tinyurl.com/yhnds5e

[Guest guest]

Not commenting on whether the below is true or not, that's up to the individual.

However, taking any drug even at low doses--- the point I was making is that

even when they hekp, it's not a substitute for a healthy immune boosting diet

compared to a toxic one.

" Naltrexone was approved by the Food and Drug Administration in 1998 as a

treatment for drug addiction. Low dose naltrexone, or LDN, blocks opioid

receptors. Because of its ability to boost the immune system, however, it has

also been touted as useful for treating other medical conditions including

autoimmune diseases, cancer and multiple sclerosis. No matter how you use the

drug, take care, because it carries some risk.

Risky Side Effects

The use of lose dose naltrexone can have numerous side effects including

constipation, cotton mouth, diarrhea, headache, hot flashes, nausea and

vomiting, according to the National Library of Medicine. It can also cause loss

of appetite, delayed ejaculation, profuse sweating and uncontrollable thirst.

Even riskier side effects can include chest pain, dizziness, fatigue, difficulty

breathing, edema, joint or muscle pain, rash, swollen glands, tremors and vision

problems.

Psychiatric side effects can include abnormal thinking, extreme agitation,

anxiety, depression, disorientation, hallucinations, nightmares, paranoia,

restlessness and thoughts of suicide.

Medline Plus advises immediate emergency attention for any severe side effects.

Major Risks

LDN should not be given to patients diagnosed with liver failure or hepatitis,

according to Drugs.com. Even in small doses, naltrexone can build up, resulting

in hepatotoxicity for patients prone to that condition. Anyone with a

predetermined renal condition could also experience increased impairment.

Naltrexone is not recommended for use by pregnant or nursing women. Research on

the effect of the drug on a fetus is insufficient. Likewise, it is unknown if

the drug could cause problems for breastfeeding children.

Contraindications

Naltrexone should not be prescribed for patients receiving opiate drugs for

treatment purposes, because it will block opioid receptors and have minimal or

no effect, according to Drugs.com. Addicts should not continue taking opiates

while taking LDN. To do so could result in an overdose, bodily injury, coma or

death.

LDN should not be used in connection with nonsteroidal anti-inflammatory drugs,

thioridazine or yohimbine. Taken with NSAIDS, naltrexone risks an elevation in

liver enzymes. Taken with thioridzine, it could cause lethargy, making the use

of equipment dangerous. When taken with yohimbine, LDN can elevate blood

pressure and cause the pulse to race. Naltrexone can also block the medicinal

intent of anti-diarrhea and cold medications. "

http://www.ehow.co.uk/way_5766911_there-use-low-dose-naltrexone_.html

Bruce

----- Original Message -----

From: ido zahavi

you better learn about low dose naltrexone before preaching.low dose naltrexone

does not function as a drug but it is a trick to boost the endorphines which

many people who are auto-immune have shortage of.

On Thu, Apr 1, 2010 at 8:35 AM, Bruce P <bruce@...> wrote:

While everyone likes something that helps, naturally, looking for causes and

natural treatments is the way to solutions, not looking for the magical drug,

even though some help the symptoms and I'm not stating that as completely wrong.

I have found that autoimmune conditions is a rather large subject to tackle and

way too large to get into here. Researching that in particular in one of my main

interests.

MS, arthritus, and many other autoimmune conditionsare being studied by many

good reasearchers.

The causes seem so related. A common thread I am seeing is the following:

Vitamin D deficiency - levels to be over 60 mg/dl 80 is even better.

Molecular mimicry - proteins in the blood similar to tissues involved.

Often related to food allergies/sensitivities/leaky gut and other causes -

primarily gluten, though eggs, milk and others are implicated for some. I see

this condition has been labelled as an autoimmune disorder, which is new to me,

there is the common thread.

Just some thoughts to look for. Maximizing immunity using dietary improvements

never goes wrong for helping and often cures.

Bruce

On Thu, Apr 1, 2010 at 4:23 AM, tpa1212 <guardian601@...> wrote:

This info is not for me. I am doing a little research for a friend...

Does anyone know about Sjogren's Syndrome & the relationship to iodine, if any?

I think Limbrel is given to treat this disease.

How about the drug(?) " Alli " that is sold for weight loss? Does anyone know how

it works?

Thanks in advance,

Tim

------------------------------------

All off topic posts should go to the IodineOT group

IodineOT/

Commonly asked questions: http://tinyurl.com/yhnds5e

[Guest guest]

many of the things you write are not correct.dr berkson treat people with hepatetis with LDN,ALA,selenium and milk thistles.

learn about endorphines and see that all those that were a long period under stress will never produce enough endorhines.

people with deppression who tried everything ,sometimes did not got better until they went on ldn and that because of the endorphines.

On Thu, Apr 1, 2010 at 11:02 AM, Bruce P <bruce@...> wrote:

 

Not commenting on whether the below is true or not, that's up to the individual. However, taking any drug even at low doses--- the point I was making is that even when they hekp, it's not a substitute for a healthy immune boosting diet compared to a toxic one.

" Naltrexone was approved by the Food and Drug Administration in 1998 as a treatment for drug addiction. Low dose naltrexone, or LDN, blocks opioid receptors. Because of its ability to boost the immune system, however, it has also been touted as useful for treating other medical conditions including autoimmune diseases, cancer and multiple sclerosis. No matter how you use the drug, take care, because it carries some risk.

Risky Side EffectsThe use of lose dose naltrexone can have numerous side effects including constipation, cotton mouth, diarrhea, headache, hot flashes, nausea and vomiting, according to the National Library of Medicine. It can also cause loss of appetite, delayed ejaculation, profuse sweating and uncontrollable thirst. Even riskier side effects can include chest pain, dizziness, fatigue, difficulty breathing, edema, joint or muscle pain, rash, swollen glands, tremors and vision problems.

Psychiatric side effects can include abnormal thinking, extreme agitation, anxiety, depression, disorientation, hallucinations, nightmares, paranoia, restlessness and thoughts of suicide.Medline Plus advises immediate emergency attention for any severe side effects.

Major RisksLDN should not be given to patients diagnosed with liver failure or hepatitis, according to Drugs.com. Even in small doses, naltrexone can build up, resulting in hepatotoxicity for patients prone to that condition. Anyone with a predetermined renal condition could also experience increased impairment.

Naltrexone is not recommended for use by pregnant or nursing women. Research on the effect of the drug on a fetus is insufficient. Likewise, it is unknown if the drug could cause problems for breastfeeding children.

ContraindicationsNaltrexone should not be prescribed for patients receiving opiate drugs for treatment purposes, because it will block opioid receptors and have minimal or no effect, according to Drugs.com. Addicts should not continue taking opiates while taking LDN. To do so could result in an overdose, bodily injury, coma or death.

LDN should not be used in connection with nonsteroidal anti-inflammatory drugs, thioridazine or yohimbine. Taken with NSAIDS, naltrexone risks an elevation in liver enzymes. Taken with thioridzine, it could cause lethargy, making the use of equipment dangerous. When taken with yohimbine, LDN can elevate blood pressure and cause the pulse to race. Naltrexone can also block the medicinal intent of anti-diarrhea and cold medications. "

http://www.ehow.co.uk/way_5766911_there-use-low-dose-naltrexone_.htmlBruce----- Original Message -----

From: ido zahavi you better learn about low dose naltrexone before preaching.low dose naltrexone does not function as a drug but it is a trick to boost the endorphines which many people who are auto-immune have shortage of.

On Thu, Apr 1, 2010 at 8:35 AM, Bruce P <bruce@...> wrote:While everyone likes something that helps, naturally, looking for causes and natural treatments is the way to solutions, not looking for the magical drug, even though some help the symptoms and I'm not stating that as completely wrong.

I have found that autoimmune conditions is a rather large subject to tackle and way too large to get into here. Researching that in particular in one of my main interests.MS, arthritus, and many other autoimmune conditionsare being studied by many good reasearchers.

The causes seem so related. A common thread I am seeing is the following:Vitamin D deficiency - levels to be over 60 mg/dl 80 is even better.Molecular mimicry - proteins in the blood similar to tissues involved.

Often related to food allergies/sensitivities/leaky gut and other causes - primarily gluten, though eggs, milk and others are implicated for some. I see this condition has been labelled as an autoimmune disorder, which is new to me, there is the common thread.

Just some thoughts to look for. Maximizing immunity using dietary improvements never goes wrong for helping and often cures.BruceOn Thu, Apr 1, 2010 at 4:23 AM, tpa1212 <guardian601@...> wrote:

This info is not for me. I am doing a little research for a friend...Does anyone know about Sjogren's Syndrome & the relationship to iodine, if any? I think Limbrel is given to treat this disease.

How about the drug(?) " Alli " that is sold for weight loss? Does anyone know how it works?Thanks in advance,Tim------------------------------------ All off topic posts should go to the IodineOT group IodineOT/Commonly asked questions: http://tinyurl.com/yhnds5e

[Guest guest]

ldn is less dangerous then aspirine or tylnol

On Thu, Apr 1, 2010 at 12:34 PM, ido zahavi <zahavi100@...> wrote:

many of the things you write are not correct.dr berkson treat people with hepatetis with LDN,ALA,selenium and milk thistles.

learn about endorphines and see that all those that were a long period under stress will never produce enough endorhines.

people with deppression who tried everything ,sometimes did not got better until they went on ldn and that because of the endorphines.

On Thu, Apr 1, 2010 at 11:02 AM, Bruce P <bruce@...> wrote:

 

Not commenting on whether the below is true or not, that's up to the individual. However, taking any drug even at low doses--- the point I was making is that even when they hekp, it's not a substitute for a healthy immune boosting diet compared to a toxic one.

" Naltrexone was approved by the Food and Drug Administration in 1998 as a treatment for drug addiction. Low dose naltrexone, or LDN, blocks opioid receptors. Because of its ability to boost the immune system, however, it has also been touted as useful for treating other medical conditions including autoimmune diseases, cancer and multiple sclerosis. No matter how you use the drug, take care, because it carries some risk.

Risky Side EffectsThe use of lose dose naltrexone can have numerous side effects including constipation, cotton mouth, diarrhea, headache, hot flashes, nausea and vomiting, according to the National Library of Medicine. It can also cause loss of appetite, delayed ejaculation, profuse sweating and uncontrollable thirst. Even riskier side effects can include chest pain, dizziness, fatigue, difficulty breathing, edema, joint or muscle pain, rash, swollen glands, tremors and vision problems.

Psychiatric side effects can include abnormal thinking, extreme agitation, anxiety, depression, disorientation, hallucinations, nightmares, paranoia, restlessness and thoughts of suicide.Medline Plus advises immediate emergency attention for any severe side effects.

Major RisksLDN should not be given to patients diagnosed with liver failure or hepatitis, according to Drugs.com. Even in small doses, naltrexone can build up, resulting in hepatotoxicity for patients prone to that condition. Anyone with a predetermined renal condition could also experience increased impairment.

Naltrexone is not recommended for use by pregnant or nursing women. Research on the effect of the drug on a fetus is insufficient. Likewise, it is unknown if the drug could cause problems for breastfeeding children.

ContraindicationsNaltrexone should not be prescribed for patients receiving opiate drugs for treatment purposes, because it will block opioid receptors and have minimal or no effect, according to Drugs.com. Addicts should not continue taking opiates while taking LDN. To do so could result in an overdose, bodily injury, coma or death.

LDN should not be used in connection with nonsteroidal anti-inflammatory drugs, thioridazine or yohimbine. Taken with NSAIDS, naltrexone risks an elevation in liver enzymes. Taken with thioridzine, it could cause lethargy, making the use of equipment dangerous. When taken with yohimbine, LDN can elevate blood pressure and cause the pulse to race. Naltrexone can also block the medicinal intent of anti-diarrhea and cold medications. "

http://www.ehow.co.uk/way_5766911_there-use-low-dose-naltrexone_.htmlBruce----- Original Message -----

From: ido zahavi you better learn about low dose naltrexone before preaching.low dose naltrexone does not function as a drug but it is a trick to boost the endorphines which many people who are auto-immune have shortage of.

On Thu, Apr 1, 2010 at 8:35 AM, Bruce P <bruce@...> wrote:While everyone likes something that helps, naturally, looking for causes and natural treatments is the way to solutions, not looking for the magical drug, even though some help the symptoms and I'm not stating that as completely wrong.

I have found that autoimmune conditions is a rather large subject to tackle and way too large to get into here. Researching that in particular in one of my main interests.MS, arthritus, and many other autoimmune conditionsare being studied by many good reasearchers.

The causes seem so related. A common thread I am seeing is the following:Vitamin D deficiency - levels to be over 60 mg/dl 80 is even better.Molecular mimicry - proteins in the blood similar to tissues involved.

Often related to food allergies/sensitivities/leaky gut and other causes - primarily gluten, though eggs, milk and others are implicated for some. I see this condition has been labelled as an autoimmune disorder, which is new to me, there is the common thread.

Just some thoughts to look for. Maximizing immunity using dietary improvements never goes wrong for helping and often cures.BruceOn Thu, Apr 1, 2010 at 4:23 AM, tpa1212 <guardian601@...> wrote:

This info is not for me. I am doing a little research for a friend...Does anyone know about Sjogren's Syndrome & the relationship to iodine, if any? I think Limbrel is given to treat this disease.

How about the drug(?) " Alli " that is sold for weight loss? Does anyone know how it works?Thanks in advance,Tim------------------------------------ All off topic posts should go to the IodineOT group IodineOT/Commonly asked questions: http://tinyurl.com/yhnds5e

[Guest guest]

Which does nothing to address the cause of the autoimmunity, which was what Bruce was doing. Bruce was right on about vitamin D deficiencies and food sensitivities. You're much better off addressing those than succumbing to the quick-fix supplement mentality.Joannewww.joanneunleashed.comOn Apr 1, 2010, at 5:43 AM, iodine wrote:you better learn about low dose naltrexone before preaching.low dosenaltrexone does not function as a drug but it is a trick to boost theendorphines which many people who are auto-immune have shortage of.

[Guest guest]

this seems to have a lot of disadvantages if you read the side effects. if this is not as bad as aspirin, then aspirin must have an awful lot of side effects. diane, near philly, pa On Apr 1, 2010, at 6:35 AM, ido zahavi wrote:ldn is less dangerous then aspirine or tylnolOn Thu, Apr 1, 2010 at 12:34 PM, ido zahavi <zahavi100gmail> wrote:many of the things you write are not correct.dr berkson treat people with hepatetis with LDN,ALA,selenium and milk thistles.learn about endorphines and see that all those that were a long period under stress will never produce enough endorhines.people with deppression who tried everything ,sometimes did not got better until they went on ldn and that because of the endorphines.On Thu, Apr 1, 2010 at 11:02 AM, Bruce P <brucebkdesign (DOT) ca> wrote: Not commenting on whether the below is true or not, that's up to the individual. However, taking any drug even at low doses--- the point I was making is that even when they hekp, it's not a substitute for a healthy immune boosting diet compared to a toxic one."Naltrexone was approved by the Food and Drug Administration in 1998 as a treatment for drug addiction. Low dose naltrexone, or LDN, blocks opioid receptors. Because of its ability to boost the immune system, however, it has also been touted as useful for treating other medical conditions including autoimmune diseases, cancer and multiple sclerosis. No matter how you use the drug, take care, because it carries some risk. Risky Side EffectsThe use of lose dose naltrexone can have numerous side effects including constipation, cotton mouth, diarrhea, headache, hot flashes, nausea and vomiting, according to the National Library of Medicine. It can also cause loss of appetite, delayed ejaculation, profuse sweating and uncontrollable thirst. Even riskier side effects can include chest pain, dizziness, fatigue, difficulty breathing, edema, joint or muscle pain, rash, swollen glands, tremors and vision problems. Psychiatric side effects can include abnormal thinking, extreme agitation, anxiety, depression, disorientation, hallucinations, nightmares, paranoia, restlessness and thoughts of suicide.Medline Plus advises immediate emergency attention for any severe side effects. Major RisksLDN should not be given to patients diagnosed with liver failure or hepatitis, according to Drugs.com. Even in small doses, naltrexone can build up, resulting in hepatotoxicity for patients prone to that condition. Anyone with a predetermined renal condition could also experience increased impairment. Naltrexone is not recommended for use by pregnant or nursing women. Research on the effect of the drug on a fetus is insufficient. Likewise, it is unknown if the drug could cause problems for breastfeeding children. ContraindicationsNaltrexone should not be prescribed for patients receiving opiate drugs for treatment purposes, because it will block opioid receptors and have minimal or no effect, according to Drugs.com. Addicts should not continue taking opiates while taking LDN. To do so could result in an overdose, bodily injury, coma or death.LDN should not be used in connection with nonsteroidal anti-inflammatory drugs, thioridazine or yohimbine. Taken with NSAIDS, naltrexone risks an elevation in liver enzymes. Taken with thioridzine, it could cause lethargy, making the use of equipment dangerous. When taken with yohimbine, LDN can elevate blood pressure and cause the pulse to race. Naltrexone can also block the medicinal intent of anti-diarrhea and cold medications. "http://www.ehow.co.uk/way_5766911_there-use-low-dose-naltrexone_.htmlBruce----- Original Message ----- From: ido zahavi you better learn about low dose naltrexone before preaching.low dose naltrexone does not function as a drug but it is a trick to boost the endorphines which many people who are auto-immune have shortage of.On Thu, Apr 1, 2010 at 8:35 AM, Bruce P <brucebkdesign (DOT) ca> wrote:While everyone likes something that helps, naturally, looking for causes and natural treatments is the way to solutions, not looking for the magical drug, even though some help the symptoms and I'm not stating that as completely wrong.I have found that autoimmune conditions is a rather large subject to tackle and way too large to get into here. Researching that in particular in one of my main interests.MS, arthritus, and many other autoimmune conditionsare being studied by many good reasearchers.The causes seem so related. A common thread I am seeing is the following:Vitamin D deficiency - levels to be over 60 mg/dl 80 is even better.Molecular mimicry - proteins in the blood similar to tissues involved.Often related to food allergies/sensitivities/leaky gut and other causes - primarily gluten, though eggs, milk and others are implicated for some. I see this condition has been labelled as an autoimmune disorder, which is new to me, there is the common thread.Just some thoughts to look for. Maximizing immunity using dietary improvements never goes wrong for helping and often cures.BruceOn Thu, Apr 1, 2010 at 4:23 AM, tpa1212 <guardian601hotmail> wrote:This info is not for me. I am doing a little research for a friend...Does anyone know about Sjogren's Syndrome & the relationship to iodine, if any? I think Limbrel is given to treat this disease.How about the drug(?) "Alli" that is sold for weight loss? Does anyone know how it works?Thanks in advance,Tim------------------------------------All off topic posts should go to the IodineOT group IodineOT/Commonly asked questions: http://tinyurl.com/yhnds5e

[Guest guest]

listen to the experience of thousands of people that use it and then you can hear from the most that it is the best thing they have done since they became sick.pregnant women get it and children with crohn of 2 years old.

 

On Thu, Apr 1, 2010 at 5:39 PM, diane gaul <ditique@...> wrote:

 

this seems to have a lot of disadvantages if you read the side effects. if this is not as bad as aspirin, then aspirin must have an awful lot of side effects. 

diane, near philly, pa

On Apr 1, 2010, at 6:35 AM, ido zahavi wrote:

ldn is less dangerous then aspirine or tylnol

On Thu, Apr 1, 2010 at 12:34 PM, ido zahavi <zahavi100@...> wrote:

many of the things you write are not correct.dr berkson treat people with hepatetis with LDN,ALA,selenium and milk thistles.

learn about endorphines and see that all those that were a long period under stress will never produce enough endorhines.

people with deppression who tried everything ,sometimes did not got better until they went on ldn and that because of the endorphines.

On Thu, Apr 1, 2010 at 11:02 AM, Bruce P <bruce@...> wrote:

 

Not commenting on whether the below is true or not, that's up to the individual. However, taking any drug even at low doses--- the point I was making is that even when they hekp, it's not a substitute for a healthy immune boosting diet compared to a toxic one.

" Naltrexone was approved by the Food and Drug Administration in 1998 as a treatment for drug addiction. Low dose naltrexone, or LDN, blocks opioid receptors. Because of its ability to boost the immune system, however, it has also been touted as useful for treating other medical conditions including autoimmune diseases, cancer and multiple sclerosis. No matter how you use the drug, take care, because it carries some risk. 

Risky Side EffectsThe use of lose dose naltrexone can have numerous side effects including constipation, cotton mouth, diarrhea, headache, hot flashes, nausea and vomiting, according to the National Library of Medicine. It can also cause loss of appetite, delayed ejaculation, profuse sweating and uncontrollable thirst. Even riskier side effects can include chest pain, dizziness, fatigue, difficulty breathing, edema, joint or muscle pain, rash, swollen glands, tremors and vision problems. 

Psychiatric side effects can include abnormal thinking, extreme agitation, anxiety, depression, disorientation, hallucinations, nightmares, paranoia, restlessness and thoughts of suicide.Medline Plus advises immediate emergency attention for any severe side effects. 

Major RisksLDN should not be given to patients diagnosed with liver failure or hepatitis, according to Drugs.com. Even in small doses, naltrexone can build up, resulting in hepatotoxicity for patients prone to that condition. Anyone with a predetermined renal condition could also experience increased impairment. 

Naltrexone is not recommended for use by pregnant or nursing women. Research on the effect of the drug on a fetus is insufficient. Likewise, it is unknown if the drug could cause problems for breastfeeding children. 

ContraindicationsNaltrexone should not be prescribed for patients receiving opiate drugs for treatment purposes, because it will block opioid receptors and have minimal or no effect, according to Drugs.com. Addicts should not continue taking opiates while taking LDN. To do so could result in an overdose, bodily injury, coma or death.

LDN should not be used in connection with nonsteroidal anti-inflammatory drugs, thioridazine or yohimbine. Taken with NSAIDS, naltrexone risks an elevation in liver enzymes. Taken with thioridzine, it could cause lethargy, making the use of equipment dangerous. When taken with yohimbine, LDN can elevate blood pressure and cause the pulse to race. Naltrexone can also block the medicinal intent of anti-diarrhea and cold medications. "

http://www.ehow.co.uk/way_5766911_there-use-low-dose-naltrexone_.html

Bruce ----- Original Message ----- From: ido zahavi you better learn about low dose naltrexone before preaching.low dose naltrexone does not function as a drug but it is a trick to boost the endorphines which many people who are auto-immune have shortage of.

On Thu, Apr 1, 2010 at 8:35 AM, Bruce P <bruce@...> wrote:While everyone likes something that helps, naturally, looking for causes and natural treatments is the way to solutions, not looking for the magical drug, even though some help the symptoms and I'm not stating that as completely wrong.

I have found that autoimmune conditions is a rather large subject to tackle and way too large to get into here. Researching that in particular in one of my main interests.MS, arthritus, and many other autoimmune conditionsare being studied by many good reasearchers.

The causes seem so related. A common thread I am seeing is the following:Vitamin D deficiency - levels to be over 60 mg/dl 80 is even better.Molecular mimicry - proteins in the blood similar to tissues involved.

Often related to food allergies/sensitivities/leaky gut and other causes - primarily gluten, though eggs, milk and others are implicated for some. I see this condition has been labelled as an autoimmune disorder, which is new to me, there is the common thread.

Just some thoughts to look for. Maximizing immunity using dietary improvements never goes wrong for helping and often cures.BruceOn Thu, Apr 1, 2010 at 4:23 AM, tpa1212 <guardian601@...> wrote:

This info is not for me. I am doing a little research for a friend...Does anyone know about Sjogren's Syndrome & the relationship to iodine, if any? I think Limbrel is given to treat this disease.

How about the drug(?) " Alli " that is sold for weight loss? Does anyone know how it works?Thanks in advance,Tim------------------------------------

All off topic posts should go to the IodineOT group IodineOT/

Commonly asked questions: http://tinyurl.com/yhnds5e 

[Guest guest]

Sjogren's is considered an arthritis related condition, can occur in either a

primary or secondary form. A big distinction between this and other forms of

arthritis is dryness of the mucus membranes. The eyes and mouth are commonly

affected, which can lead to dental problems such as cavities and periodontal

disease, or damage to the surface of the cornea. Life Extension Foundation

(www.lef.org,

http://www.lef.org/protocols/immune_connective_joint/sjogren_syndrome_01.htm)

has the best article I found a few years ago when I was desperately hunting for

more. There's a Sjogren's Syndrome Foundation (www.sjogrens.com) and National

Sjogren's Syndrome Association (www.sjogrens.org). Dr. Rowen, an

integrative MD, had a short article about it Aug 2009, from which I excerpted

this:

" I've suggested that there are certain of these plant chemicals that do more for

certain tissues than others. For example, the flavonoids in blueberries are

terrific protectors of your retina. It seems here that the flavonoids from green

tea might be a specific protector of salivary glands. " Relates to a mouse

study, measuring lymphocyte activity in salivary glands either with or without

EGCG (green tea extract).

If you want me to send the whole, feel free to contact me directly.

As far as iodine is concerned, the connection may only be the auto-immune

factor.

Pam H

> >

> > This info is not for me. I am doing a little research for a friend...

> >

> > Does anyone know about Sjogren's Syndrome & the relationship to

> > iodine, if any? I think Limbrel is given to treat this disease.

> >

> > How about the drug(?) " Alli " that is sold for weight loss? Does

> > anyone know how it works?

> >

> > Thanks in advance,

> >

> > Tim

> >

> > ------------------------------------

> >

> >

> >

> > All off topic posts should go to the IodineOT group

IodineOT/

> >

> > Commonly asked questions: http://tinyurl.com/yhnds5e

> > Links

[Guest guest]

Agree here - despite being on iodine for a couple of years it did not,

unfortunately inhibit the onset of sjogren's nor did my antibodies reduce at all

during that time despite trying gluten free diet, liver detox etc.

It has been great for thyroid function however, and my nodules are gone.....

But anything that reduces ANA antibodies would help for Sjogren's.

I am thinking of trying Low Dose Naltrexone for that.

> > >

> > > This info is not for me. I am doing a little research for a friend...

> > >

> > > Does anyone know about Sjogren's Syndrome & the relationship to

> > > iodine, if any? I think Limbrel is given to treat this disease.

> > >

> > > How about the drug(?) " Alli " that is sold for weight loss? Does

> > > anyone know how it works?

> > >

> > > Thanks in advance,

> > >

> > > Tim

> > >

> > > ------------------------------------

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > All off topic posts should go to the IodineOT group

IodineOT/

> > >

> > > Commonly asked questions: http://tinyurl.com/yhnds5e

> > > Links

>

[Guest guest]

Thanks, Everyone. Wouldn't it be great if iodine would do it all.....?!! I am glad to hear from someone with Sjogren's that has tried iodine for awhile. I am all about finding the underlying nutritional and/or emotional cause, rather than masking the symptoms with drugs. Pharmaceuticals are not my first choice, but may be a blessing while trying nutritional and other alternative approaches. I would not rule anything out, even if used only temporarily. Maybe someday MDs will see it that way, too. (I can dream...)

Cheers,

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[Guest guest]

Bruce, I'm not arguing with you about the risks, because I know you are the

Research Guru around here, but those side effects sound more like the side

effects for the 50 mg dose of Naltrexone they give to addicts, not the Low Dose.

I take LDN for my MS and, other than some transient insomnia and vivid dreams,

I've not had one side effect from LDN in the 2 yrs I've been taking it. Also, I

belong to a LDN group, two of them, actually, and nobody on either of

these groups had described anything like this.

The worst I've ever heard from ANYONE taking LDN was the sleeplessness and vivid

dreaming.

And of course, you're right, it's not a stand-alone treatment. One must address

the immune system nutritionally, food allergies, supplements, etc.

Beverly

> >

> > Major Risks

> > LDN should not be given to patients diagnosed with liver failure or

> > hepatitis, according to Drugs.com. Even in small doses, naltrexone can build

> > up, resulting in hepatotoxicity for patients prone to that condition. Anyone

> > with a predetermined renal condition could also experience increased

> > impairment.

> > Naltrexone is not recommended for use by pregnant or nursing women.

> > Research on the effect of the drug on a fetus is insufficient. Likewise, it

> > is unknown if the drug could cause problems for breastfeeding children.

> >

> > Contraindications

> > Naltrexone should not be prescribed for patients receiving opiate drugs for

> > treatment purposes, because it will block opioid receptors and have minimal

> > or no effect, according to Drugs.com. Addicts should not continue taking

> > opiates while taking LDN. To do so could result in an overdose, bodily

> > injury, coma or death.

> >

> > LDN should not be used in connection with nonsteroidal anti-inflammatory

> > drugs, thioridazine or yohimbine. Taken with NSAIDS, naltrexone risks an

> > elevation in liver enzymes. Taken with thioridzine, it could cause lethargy,

> > making the use of equipment dangerous. When taken with yohimbine, LDN can

> > elevate blood pressure and cause the pulse to race. Naltrexone can also

> > block the medicinal intent of anti-diarrhea and cold medications. "

> > http://www.ehow.co.uk/way_5766911_there-use-low-dose-naltrexone_.html

> >

> > Bruce

> >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

,

What did you attribute to your nodules disappearing, the iodine or the Vitalzym

X? Did it take 2 years for your nodules to go or less?

Sandy

> > > > >

> > > > > This info is not for me. I am doing a little research for a friend...

> > > > >

> > > > > Does anyone know about Sjogren's Syndrome & the relationship to

> > > > > iodine, if any? I think Limbrel is given to treat this disease.

> > > > >

> > > > > How about the drug(?) " Alli " that is sold for weight loss? Does

> > > > > anyone know how it works?

> > > > >

> > > > > Thanks in advance,

> > > > >

> > > > > Tim

> > > > >

> > > > > ------------------------------------

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > All off topic posts should go to the IodineOT group

IodineOT/

> > > > >

> > > > > Commonly asked questions: http://tinyurl.com/yhnds5e

> > > > > Links

> > >

> >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

low dose naltrexone/

There are over 8000 people on this LDN list. Check it out if anyone is

interested in the subject.

It is good to hear a balanced approach towards LDN. Those quotes are about

naltrexone doses as high as 300mgs, not low dose naltrexone. LDN have doses

only as high as 4.5mg once in 24hrs.

Although after 3 months it hasn't done anything for me yet. There are countless

positive accounts of it helping people. Nothing wrong with wanting to ease the

constant suffering. Doing that can give the sufferer some energy they didn't

have so they can look into things more. It takes much energy to suffer!

If someone isn't in constant pain it might be harder for them to understand what

it is like 24/7 for years. Maybe everything else the ill have tried has failed

them, including diet.

The confusion about ldn needed to be corrected so very ill people can have a

choice. And not be frightened away. Keep digging though. It is a blessing! ~

>

> Sorry I thought everyone understood this:

> >All I was saying is look for source/resolution of problem rather than a

> >pill. Not referring to anyone here, just a general principle.

> Bruce

>

> This has all been taken out of context now. I so give up

>

> Re: Re: Sjogren's Syndrome & Alli

>

>

>

> I haven't been following this but just noticed LDN has come up. I might

> agree with everything that was written, except that it was written about an

> exception to the rule of Pharma Bad. I think it was a poor choice for

> making a point about Pharma, and maybe that's already evident, but I need

> to say my piece. peace.

>

> >All I was saying is look for source/resolution of problem rather than a

> >pill. Not referring to anyone here, just a general principle.

>

> Nevertheless, the research that was presented as fact about LDN is not in

> fact correct. LDN has been used by women who became pregnant, it has

> facilitated conception and facilitated completion of pregnancies in women

> who could not, previously, and the children born have been exceptionally

> healthy. In addition, it is used for liver cancer and Hep C, so it's not

> poisonous to the liver as you've quoted, and people with liver problems are

> using it quite successfully. It is also being used to help autistic

> children, in a protocol that includes diet and supplements.

>

> While in general I am not a fan of Pharma, occasionally they make a mistake

> and do something good (and remember, LDN utilizes a drug that is out of

> patent and largely ignored by the medical world). If diet and supplements

> could fix MS, I'm sure a lot more people would be cured instead of

> inexorably deteriorating. What LDN does is encourage the body to

> manufacture more endorphins, which the body then uses intelligently to cure

> its ailments. And I do mean cure, not just mask symptoms. Research on LDN

> shows that people with MS have a reversal of clinical pathologies such as

> brain lesions, as evidenced by before-and-after MRIs. People with HIV/AIDS

> get tested and their viral loads have gone to zero, and stay at zero. I'm

> sorry, but all the diet in the world has not been curing that particular

> disease (that I have lost many friends to).

>

> I take LDN, and it made an instant reversal in my daily suffering

> (fibromyalgia), allowing me to make a whole lot of other changes that I

> could not at that time, such as doing the research that led me to the

> iodine protocol, but also such things as the ability to get exercise, grow

> my vegetable garden, to eat well.

>

> So educated people can disagree on whether or not any Pharma drug can ever

> be of service to anyone, but presenting research (not all of which is the

> most current) on large doses of naltrexone is not proper research for a

> completely different protocol involving a microdose. A lot of research has

> been done on LDN and more is in the pipeline. The information presented is

> not accurate about LDN, including the list of drugs not to be taken with it

> (NSAIDS are fine).

>

> >Most finding some relief this way do little else unfortunately, and that

> >leads to bad results long term.

>

> Actually, this doesn't square with the research on LDN. It turns out that

> increasing the body's endorphins *IS* addressing core causes. It turns out

> that people ARE getting better. Would people get even stronger if their

> diets were ideal and nutritional supplementation optimized and they stopped

> taking a load of other Pharma drugs? no doubt. But in the case of LDN,

> and that's all I'm talking about here, it actually creates deep

> healing. It does not, in the long run, lead to " bad results " .

>

> LDN is one of the exceptions that proves the rule that Pharma Bad. I'm all

> for realistic talk about Pharma, but I'm not able to stand by while LDN is

> slandered (which I realize was inadvertent, but still).

>

> Anyone interested in the facts can visit www.lowdosenaltexone.org and there

> are several discussion groups for LDN on .

>

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