Re: I need SLEEP. (adrenal fatigue)

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There is a homeopathic solution I use for my daughter called Rescue Sleep. I have also used melatonin. Now I am giving her P5P and 5HTP to try to get her melatonin and seretonin levels normalized. I haven't taken much for it other than Metagenics Serenegan or if really bad I have taken a rx drug for it.

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Thanks I will try it!

From: ladybugsandbees <ladybugsandbees@...>iodine Sent: Wed, May 12, 2010 1:33:02 PMSubject: Re: I need SLEEP. (adrenal fatigue)

There is a homeopathic solution I use for my daughter called Rescue Sleep. I have also used melatonin. Now I am giving her P5P and 5HTP to try to get her melatonin and seretonin levels normalized. I haven't taken much for it other than Metagenics Serenegan or if really bad I have taken a rx drug for it.

Steph

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I too use the rescue solution. It is called rescue remedy by Bach Remedy and it is great for sleep. A couple drops under the tongue (throughout the day) takes the edge off if u are anxious. They also make one for sleep but when I use the latter 2-3 times a day I don't have trouble with sleep. They also make one for pets and a cream for ppl to use in lieu of triple antibiotic cream for burns bites scratches that is exceptionalMeredithSent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerryFrom: "ladybugsandbees" <ladybugsandbees@...>Date: Wed, 12 May 2010 13:33:02 -0400<iodine >Subject: Re: I need SLEEP. (adrenal fatigue)There is a homeopathic solution I use for my daughter called Rescue Sleep. I have also used melatonin. Now I am giving her P5P and 5HTP to try to get her melatonin and seretonin levels normalized. I haven't taken much for it other than Metagenics Serenegan or if really bad I have taken a rx drug for it. Steph adrenal support What is recommended here for adrenal support.

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We use the spray called Rescue Sleep. It's different than rescue remedy. I just spray it in my daughters tongue.

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Hey there... I'm not , but... I'm buttin' in...

In my personal experience, low thyroid and low progesterone have also created

sleep issues (or maybe I should say, increasing those horemone levels helped

reduce the sleepless issue). There were times when over a week I might sleep

2-3 hrs per night, if at all, and it was often accompanied by nasty anxiety.

My current doc recommends melatonin. He is of the mind that everyone should get

melatonin everyday. I take 3mg and that seems to do the trick. He says up to

10mg. I get one that has Theanine and B-6 in it -- A Costco special from Shiff

(US).

I do hope you find some rest, soon. I know how difficult that make daily life..

Never Give Up! j

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is getting the best of me?

> Im' desperate to sleep. 

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There are a lot of ways to skin the sleep cat, & I am hoping that one of those mentioned will work for you. But there are other things you can try if you still aren't having any luck.There is a company called "Mind Alive" up in Canada, which makes an audio-visual entrainment device that can actually help you change your brain waves. It has settings to help you achieve a meditative state, or an energized state, pain relief, or sleep. (Sounds loopy, but I can tell you more about it off-list.) Unfortunately, I think it costs around $270.http://www.mindalive.com/There are cheaper CDs based on the same approach (but I don't think they are quite as flexible or effective.) It seems to me that the Isabella catalog recently advertised one that induces sleep. The better ones all require headphones for your music player (I would be a bit skeptical of one that didn't require head-phones), & you lie down & play the music. I haven't tried this one, but it is only $18. (There are a few drawbacks to CDs like this. One is that each one only does a single thing -- the Mind Alive product can be set for different purposes, & you can use music of your choice with MindAlive. And there is no guarantee that everybody making these CDs knows what they are doing, so some are likely to be more effective than others. On the other hand, if you get some benefit from a cheap CD, it might make you feel better about shelling out for MindAlive...)http://www.isabellacatalog.com/p/SleepTherapy.cfm AnneOn May 12, 2010, at 11:25 AM, mzjaku wrote: Hey there... I'm not , but... I'm buttin' in... In my personal experience, low thyroid and low progesterone have also created sleep issues (or maybe I should say, increasing those horemone levels helped reduce the sleepless issue). There were times when over a week I might sleep 2-3 hrs per night, if at all, and it was often accompanied by nasty anxiety. My current doc recommends melatonin. He is of the mind that everyone should get melatonin everyday. I take 3mg and that seems to do the trick. He says up to 10mg. I get one that has Theanine and B-6 in it -- A Costco special from Shiff (US). I do hope you find some rest, soon. I know how difficult that make daily life.. Never Give Up! j -------------------------------- > > May I ask what do you do for insomnia? I have been unable to sleep/insomnia is getting the best of me? > Im' desperate to sleep.

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My friend was helped with bone broth made with well water that's high in magnesium. Also, once she got her adrenals supported to a certain degree, when she took iodine it made her sleep.

Minno

Re: Re: I need SLEEP. (adrenal fatigue)

There are a lot of ways to skin the sleep cat, & I am hoping that one of those mentioned will work for you. But there are other things you can try if you still aren't having any luck.

There is a company called "Mind Alive" up in Canada, which makes an audio-visual entrainment device that can actually help you change your brain waves. It has settings to help you achieve a meditative state, or an energized state, pain relief, or sleep. (Sounds loopy, but I can tell you more about it off-list.) Unfortunately, I think it costs around $270.

http://www.mindalive.com/

There are cheaper CDs based on the same approach (but I don't think they are quite as flexible or effective.) It seems to me that the Isabella catalog recently advertised one that induces sleep. The better ones all require headphones for your music player (I would be a bit skeptical of one that didn't require head-phones), & you lie down & play the music. I haven't tried this one, but it is only $18. (There are a few drawbacks to CDs like this. One is that each one only does a single thing -- the Mind Alive product can be set for different purposes, & you can use music of your choice with MindAlive. And there is no guarantee that everybody making these CDs knows what they are doing, so some are likely to be more effective than others. On the other hand, if you get some benefit from a cheap CD, it might make you feel better about shelling out for MindAlive...)

http://www.isabellacatalog.com/p/SleepTherapy.cfm

Anne

On May 12, 2010, at 11:25 AM, mzjaku wrote:

Hey there... I'm not , but... I'm buttin' in...In my personal experience, low thyroid and low progesterone have also created sleep issues (or maybe I should say, increasing those horemone levels helped reduce the sleepless issue). There were times when over a week I might sleep 2-3 hrs per night, if at all, and it was often accompanied by nasty anxiety. My current doc recommends melatonin. He is of the mind that everyone should get melatonin everyday. I take 3mg and that seems to do the trick. He says up to 10mg. I get one that has Theanine and B-6 in it -- A Costco special from Shiff (US).I do hope you find some rest, soon. I know how difficult that make daily life..Never Give Up! j--------------------------------> > May I ask what do you do for insomnia? I have been unable to sleep/insomnia is getting the best of me?> Im' desperate to sleep.

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True Calm by Now is great, along with small amount of a sublingual Melatonin. I would still take the magnesium - or the Plus formula.

Or, a sleep formula with melatonin, L-theanine, 5HTP, GABA with herbs like valerian, passion flower, lemon balm e.g. Vitamin Shoppe's advanced sleep formula.

Tammy

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I have tried the Mind Alive and it is a lot of machine. You wear glasses that flash lights as well as the headphones. It seemed all too much for me and I really only used it a few times. I find the whole technology very fascinating and am somewhat interested in taking their seminar this August in Edmonton. However, I don't really know what I'd use it for at this point. I also had CDs - I used the Centerpointe Holosync for sleep as I had them anyway for meditation. I think they have some effect on insomnia. There is another company that produces CDs for sleep and other applications and they are less money. Monroe Institute, I think. I had them too but was not wowed with results. For a very long time I couldn't sleep much even on sleeping pills. Gradually my sleep improved as my overall health improved. I think that detoxification has helped as has adrenal support (I use Core Level Adrenal by Nutriwest) and lately the addition of progesterone cream. I sleep around 8-9 hours now and am weaning myself off sleeping pills.Hope you find a solution to your sleep woes. Ann On 12-May-10, at 2:49 PM, Anne Seals wrote:There are a lot of ways to skin the sleep cat, & I am hoping that one of those mentioned will work for you. But there are other things you can try if you still aren't having any luck.There is a company called "Mind Alive" up in Canada, which makes an audio-visual entrainment device that can actually help you change your brain waves. It has settings to help you achieve a meditative state, or an energized state, pain relief, or sleep. (Sounds loopy, but I can tell you more about it off-list.) Unfortunately, I think it costs around $270.http://www.mindalive.com/There are cheaper CDs based on the same approach (but I don't think they are quite as flexible or effective.) It seems to me that the Isabella catalog recently advertised one that induces sleep. The better ones all require headphones for your music player (I would be a bit skeptical of one that didn't require head-phones), & you lie down & play the music. I haven't tried this one, but it is only $18. (There are a few drawbacks to CDs like this. One is that each one only does a single thing -- the Mind Alive product can be set for different purposes, & you can use music of your choice with MindAlive. And there is no guarantee that everybody making these CDs knows what they are doing, so some are likely to be more effective than others. On the other hand, if you get some benefit from a cheap CD, it might make you feel better about shelling out for MindAlive...)http://www.isabellacatalog.com/p/SleepTherapy.cfm AnneOn May 12, 2010, at 11:25 AM, mzjaku wrote: Hey there... I'm not , but... I'm buttin' in...In my personal experience, low thyroid and low progesterone have also created sleep issues (or maybe I should say, increasing those horemone levels helped reduce the sleepless issue). There were times when over a week I might sleep 2-3 hrs per night, if at all, and it was often accompanied by nasty anxiety. My current doc recommends melatonin. He is of the mind that everyone should get melatonin everyday. I take 3mg and that seems to do the trick. He says up to 10mg. I get one that has Theanine and B-6 in it -- A Costco special from Shiff (US).I do hope you find some rest, soon. I know how difficult that make daily life..Never Give Up! j--------------------------------> > May I ask what do you do for insomnia? I have been unable to sleep/insomnia is getting the best of me?> Im' desperate to sleep.

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FYI: I'd highly recommend that you try each herbal separately and see how you seem on it. And I'd try for a number of days. I have taken 5HTP and initially it "worked" for a few days and then I ended up with worse problems. Same with St. 's Wort. People often assume that serotonin is low and that boosting it is the answer. Not for me.Two weeks ago I saw a new hormone doctor. He told me I definitely should be taking melatonin. 3 mg per night. I have found that when I do that I wake up in the middle feeling very anxious and can't get back to sleep. AnnOn 12-May-10, at 6:07 PM, Freedom Alternatives wrote:True Calm by Now is great, along with small amount of a sublingual Melatonin. I would still take the magnesium - or the Plus formula. Or, a sleep formula with melatonin, L-theanine, 5HTP, GABA with herbs like valerian, passion flower, lemon balm e.g. Vitamin Shoppe's advanced sleep formula. Tammy adrenal support What is recommended here for adrenal support.

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Rescue remedy has 5 of the flowers in it to help with shock, exhaustion,

anxiety, panic, irritability, pain, being able to stay in the present, any sort

of stressful or traumatic situation really. The Rescue Sleep has the same 5

flowers plus another - White Chesnut - which calms the mind and stops you

obsessively thinking in those sort of worry loops which keep you awake. So even

though it's marketed for sleep it can be used anytime. I find it excellent as

well.

Gail

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You need to have your cortisol tested 2-4 times in a 24 hour cycle. A one time morning cortisol test will not show true cortisol release problems associated with some adrenal issues- especially those with symptoms of waking several times during the middle of the night. Morning cortisol is suppose to be at its highest peak between 6-8 am- and then it is suppose to drop considerably in the afternoon. People with nighttime sleep problems can find their cortisol doesn't drop enough, but just stays more mainline all the way across the chart.. That is why you can't just test it in the morning but need another test in the afternoon , then possibly late afternoon /evening. Lowest levels should occur around midnight. The loss of normal diurnal variation is sometimes the earliest sign of adrenal malfunction. ACTH is another good test to have.

Before you self administer meds and herbs you should at least know which ones you need. It is imperative to find out if you have too much cortisol ( Cushing's) or not enough ('s disease).

's will cause increases in serum potassium- which can be dangerous to the heart and affect blood pressure since potassium controls blood pressure. (potassium also regulates aldosterone release). Some of the herbs sold for adrenal support affect blood pressure as well. Licorice root can rise blood pressure. Licorice root has been used in the past for 's (up until the 30's) but not so sure it is good if you have Cushing's??

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Hi, Ramona:

I agree with 's suggestions listed below and have used all of those

supplements as well as magnesium citrate, sea salt, Vit C to help with night

time palpitations and insomnia. I completely emphathize with what you are going

through as I've been through it myself. You name it I've tried it. There is

nothing worse than not being able to sleep. The only thing that really helped

me to sleep was 30 mg of zinc 20 minutes before bed. That would allow me to

fall asleep and stay asleep. I also would take my 5-htp with it as well. What

also helped improve my sleep was having my thyroid medication changed and I went

from two grains compound thyroid when westhroid was no longer available to 11 mg

of dessicated thyroid and 100 mg of Levoxyl. I no longer have palpitations and

my sleep is better, but not perfect. I still take iodine as well.

Good luck and I hope you find the concoction that works for you.

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> Im' desperate to sleep.  I tried NATURAL CALM magnesium powder that I bought

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From: dalilah61 <dalilah61@...>Subject: Re: I need SLEEP. (adrenal fatigue)iodine Date: Thursday, May 13, 2010, 12:48 PM

Hi, Ramona:I agree with 's suggestions listed below and have used all of those supplements as well as magnesium citrate, sea salt, Vit C to help with night time palpitations and insomnia. I completely emphathize with what you are going through as I've been through it myself. You name it I've tried it. There is nothing worse than not being able to sleep. The only thing that really helped me to sleep was 30 mg of zinc 20 minutes before bed. That would allow me to fall asleep and stay asleep. I also would take my 5-htp with it as well. What also helped improve my sleep was having my thyroid medication changed and I went from two grains compound thyroid when westhroid was no longer available to 11 mg of dessicated thyroid and 100 mg of Levoxyl. I no longer have palpitations and my sleep is better, but not perfect. I still take iodine as well. Good luck and I hope you find the concoction that works for you.Laurie>> Hi :> I noticed your email on your recommendations for adrenal fatigue.> I started on Ashwaganda and 1/4 tsp unrefined salt in my morning glass of water.> > I also take Magnesium,Calcium and Vitamin C (2000 mg) and Pantethine 300 mg daily.> > May I ask what do you do for insomnia? I have been unable to sleep/insomnia is getting the best of me?> Im' desperate to sleep. I tried NATURAL CALM magnesium powder that I bought at the natural supermarket.> But it only put me to sleep for a few hours and I was up at 2 a.m. awake again !!!!> > any advice would be so helpful?> > > ____________ _________ _________

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Saturated fats and cholesterol are really important for good rest and good waking hours, also.

Nettle infusion can help with sleep as well as with waking up. You know it's good if it helps with both. Bone broth is also like that. It's full of the minerals your adrenal glands need.

Be sure you are taking fermented cod liver oil, as most people are deficient in the fat soluble vitamins, and they do just about everything in the body.

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Are you saying just avoid " Chelated " Magnesium? So the other forms (Mag.

Malate, Mag. Orotate) are OK??

Beverly

Be sure the Mg is not chelated to amino acids, as you will get a high dose of

excitotoxins that way. Keep your carbohydrate intake as low as you can. Zinc

is also relaxing. Melatonin as a supplement makes me very nervous. It seems

like it would be better to try sleeping in complete darkness first (except for

the 5 nights of the full moon) before taking a powerful hormone like melatonin.

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Yes the magnesium (or any other mineral) that is chelated with amino acids (such as "rice bran protein" and such) will produce free glutamic acid and other excitotoxins that damage the brain and cause heart problems, among other things. I am not familiar with Magnesium malate or Magnesium orotate. I now take Magnesium lactate from Standard Process, and it seems to be good. I have heard that Magnesium citrate is really good for fibromyalgia, candida, and heavy metal detoxification (Dr. Shaw speaking at the 2010 Weston A. Price Foundation conference on oxalates and autism), but I have not tried it, and would be careful with anything based on citric acid, which has a shady record in its production. If you could find Mg citrate that was made with citric acid not produced in China, it might be better.

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Thank you.

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(such as " rice bran protein " and such) will produce free glutamic acid and other

excitotoxins that damage the brain and cause heart problems, among other things.

I am not familiar with Magnesium malate or Magnesium orotate. I now take

Magnesium lactate from Standard Process, and it seems to be good. I have heard

that Magnesium citrate is really good for fibromyalgia, candida, and heavy metal

detoxification (Dr. Shaw speaking at the 2010 Weston A. Price Foundation

conference on oxalates and autism), but I have not tried it, and would be

careful with anything based on citric acid, which has a shady record in its

production. If you could find Mg citrate that was made with citric acid not

produced in China, it might be better.

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