Estrogen and Iodine

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All I'm saying is to take the time to be civil. People will tune out negativeness and may miss out on good info. Debate can be educational, it doesn't have to adversarial.Linn On Dec 6, 2010, at 12:54 PM, lexy.johnson@... wrote:

Linn,

I have to disagree with you on this. This thread has gone on for a long time and the poster clearly asked for input and then disagrees with the information suggested, questions the science in the information provided to her. It is fine to choose to disagree, but this is not the appropriate forum to make wholesale statements that in her opinion people should be cautious with iodine due to her hormone problems. The OP is fully entitled to these beliefs and opinions, however, she might want to start her own forum to hold these discussions. It appears to me from reading that she is, in fact, being negative about the benefits of iodine which is a very quick turnaround from how many positive things she was saying about it just a few weeks ago. The OP asked people for their opinion, but unfortunately they have not given her the information she wanted to hear.

Every chosen treatment protocol has positives and negatives for those who choose to engage it -- it is the individuals choice whether to utilize it. I don't think the iodine forum is the appropriate place to ramp up concern for the use of iodine -- we are all here because we believe in it and want to understand more about it. If iodine does not seem to be right for a person then this forum is likely not beneficial to that person. I am not saying we should only say happy, positive things, but when a thread has clearly run it's course it is time to take it offline or it runs the risk of simply becoming an adversarial discussion.

> > >

> > > LDN is not a cortisol, and women who conceive on it are having

> > > healthier-than-average babies-- there are fertility docs using it. I'm not

> > > pushing it, but you must not have read the materials because those

> > > materials make it really clear what it is. It's also not just for liver

> > > problems, as you mentioned. It's for autoimmune problems, cancer, and some

> > > other things. It simply stimulates the body to produce more endorphins,

> > > which the body then uses according to its needs, for healing.

> > >

> > > However this is off topic.

> > >

> > > best wishes,

> > > --

> > >

> > >

> >

>

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Baker wrote:

>

> Once again we have a listmember claiming that anyone who isn't testing

is

> endangering themselves, and that is simply not helpful to people. It's

not

> true, and it's not helpful.

Hello ,

Your knowledge on this subject is terrific. It is beneficial to have more than

one moderator on this forum to give more perspective and take the load off of

but I don't think anyone benefits from the statement above.

People have different styles of communicating. I know for myself, I will make a

statement that really is up for debate but nobody understands that because of my

delivery. I assume I am starting a conversation but most people think I've

made up my mind.

There is a mistrust of iodine because we are warned about how dangerous it is.

It took me over a year to decide to take it. People need to take their own time

to embrace iodine and it is more helpful if others understand that. We don't

need to be chastised for our fears. Personally, I want to know everything so I

can make educated decisions for myself.

Someone e-mailed me off list to tell me that they had high mercury levels in

their blood after taking iodine. They obviously didn't feel free to post that

on the list which doesn't benefit them or us. It is here where these kind of

problems can be solved, instead they went on their way without a word.

Grzbear on CureZone posted that he thought iodine makes bones brittle because he

chipped a tooth. He had his urine tested at the Cayce Clinic and he is peeing

out more iodine than he is ingesting. These are very important pieces to the

puzzle when taking iodine. It is exciting to solve them.

Maybe, the group needs to be divided into a beginner and advanced group or the

believers and yet to believe, still questioning people. Not everything needs

to be in the form of a question.

I really do appreciate what you bring to the forum . Validation goes a

LONG way.

Thanks for everything,

Joan

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There is no tone of voice in email, & nuances are lost. We don't even have the advantage of knowing each other personally. It is painfully easy for conversations to get uncomfortable. Let's take a step back from personal issues for the moment.Ziggy is raising an issue that is important to her, & that may relate to iodine. One size does not fit all. There are a lot of folks on this forum. If ANYBODY else is having an issue like Ziggy's, her raising the question could put her in touch with them & give all of them a shot at fixing it when they compare notes. This forum exists so that we can help each other puzzle out the complications of our bodies.One thing I see a lot in alternative publications is that a substance "balances" or "regulates" hormones. What that really MEANS is that those substances can CHANGE the balance or output of hormones. I have seen several people reporting on this list that they were able to reduce thyroid meds, insulin, & /or hormones once they were on iodine. Therefore, adding iodine to the system CAN change the hormone balance somehow. Since most of us find this beneficial, we think of it as "balancing" or "regulating." But if the changes is not so beneficial (or if it interacts with some other issue that the rest of it don't have) then you have a legitimate problem.The body is a dynamic system, with many interacting hormones & neurotransmitters & what-not. If you change any of them enough, you will change their interactions with all the rest. Now, the body has a way of rebalancing itself, IF YOU GIVE IT TIME, & if it has everything else it needs. The body is regulating every process as well as it can, & as long as it has the basic nutrients, it will eventually establish a proper balance. But any abrupt change can cause a brief period of disorientation.I have a friend who tried iodine briefly, had some serious issues that she didn't understand & couldn't find in the files, & so stopped iodine abruptly. I have a friend who dabbled with hormones, had some issues that worried her, & stopped abruptly. If starting a substance is destabilizing, stopping it abruptly can be even MORE destabilizing. We are trying to create BALANCE, & an abrupt push one way followed by an abrupt push the other way creates serious IMbalance. So I was wondering if that was a factor in Ziggy's case.SOMETHING has thrown Ziggy's hormones out of balance. Iodine can change the hormone balance. It is not crazy for her to at least wonder if iodine is implicated, & she is being encouraged to do so by her trained health practitioner. Whether that practitioner is right or wrong, it is a worthy issue to put before the forum. If even one other person has this issue, they have now been prompted to check further.Another possibility is that there is some OTHER factor that is out of balance in Ziggy's body that has not yet been identified. If the body is trying to use iodine to rebalance & runs up against this other factor, balance would be impossible until the other factor is fixed.There are lists out there on the web where no dissenting voices are allowed to be heard, giving people a false sense of security. Most of us have had some negative feedback from folks who think that taking large doses of iodine is insane, & it is easy to get sensitive about that. Totally apart from all the feelings & intentions, SOMETHING has changed Ziggy's hormone balance. If it was the iodine, then we should know that once in a while, iodine will do that. If it wasn't the iodine, it would be nice if we could help Ziggy figure out what it is. ASSUMING that it could not possibly be the iodine is not helpful to anybody. Pediatricians are still busy assuming that vaccinations cannot possibly hurt children, even though parents keep insisting that they can. We are smarter than pediatricians here, I think.AnneOn Dec 6, 2010, at 10:54 AM, lexy.johnson@... wrote: Linn, I have to disagree with you on this. This thread has gone on for a long time and the poster clearly asked for input and then disagrees with the information suggested, questions the science in the information provided to her. It is fine to choose to disagree, but this is not the appropriate forum to make wholesale statements that in her opinion people should be cautious with iodine due to her hormone problems. The OP is fully entitled to these beliefs and opinions, however, she might want to start her own forum to hold these discussions. It appears to me from reading that she is, in fact, being negative about the benefits of iodine which is a very quick turnaround from how many positive things she was saying about it just a few weeks ago. The OP asked people for their opinion, but unfortunately they have not given her the information she wanted to hear. Every chosen treatment protocol has positives and negatives for those who choose to engage it -- it is the individuals choice whether to utilize it. I don't think the iodine forum is the appropriate place to ramp up concern for the use of iodine -- we are all here because we believe in it and want to understand more about it. If iodine does not seem to be right for a person then this forum is likely not beneficial to that person. I am not saying we should only say happy, positive things, but when a thread has clearly run it's course it is time to take it offline or it runs the risk of simply becoming an adversarial discussion. > > > > > > LDN is not a cortisol, and women who conceive on it are having > > > healthier-than-average babies-- there are fertility docs using it. I'm not > > > pushing it, but you must not have read the materials because those > > > materials make it really clear what it is. It's also not just for liver > > > problems, as you mentioned. It's for autoimmune problems, cancer, and some > > > other things. It simply stimulates the body to produce more endorphins, > > > which the body then uses according to its needs, for healing. > > > > > > However this is off topic. > > > > > > best wishes, > > > -- > > > > > > > > >

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> Baker wrote:

> >

> > Once again we have a listmember claiming that anyone who isn't

> testing is

> > endangering themselves, and that is simply not helpful to people.

> It's not

> > true, and it's not helpful.

>

>Hello ,

>

>Your knowledge on this subject is terrific. It is beneficial to have more

>than one moderator on this forum to give more perspective and take the

>load off of but I don't think anyone benefits from the statement

>above.

Listmembers who are being unduly influenced by such claims are the ones who

are benefiting. This list cannot be a reliable source of information if

false information is allowed to be put forth. And that's what I did. And

I have done so with other people's posts that claim testing is required to

safely take the iodine protocol.

My job as a moderator is to monitor the information coming across the list

and to make corrections where needed. I don't address every single

statement that comes across that I question, but there are certain issues

that are perennial and need to be clarified.

Testing is one, another is the false idea that somehow iodine shuts down

the thyroid, which just came through the list again.

I had already stated in milder terms that testing is not required, and the

statement came back in even stronger terms, thus requiring a stronger

correction. There is a context here, not just one random sentence.

--

~~~ There is no way to peace; peace is the way ~~~~

--A.J. Muste

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Dear Joan,

Two points in your post caught my attention and perhaps could do with some discussion.

1) The guy peeing out more iodine than he ingested. Well, where did he get his test done? Getting a run of the mill iodine in urine test can give wildly inaccurate results. When the iodine doctors started using the iodine loading test, they sent each sample to two laboratories. No two sample pairs had the same result and sometimes the results from one lab were twice the amount in the other for the same sample, if I remember rightly. Anyhow, wild discrepancies in these samples.

According to the literature that I have read on the www.optimox.com site this is probably caused by two things. (i) Most labs have machines calibrated for µg and not mg measurements of iodine. (ii) There is a problem with the electrodes used when doing regular testing for iodine. I believe that high levels of bromide, which is very close to iodine on the periodic table, can affect the reading for iodine. I believe that Dr Flechas or someone uses a filtering technique on each urine sample to remove bromide so that it does not affect the iodine measurement. If anyone is interested in reading up on this there has been a paper published on the optimox site which explains it all much better than I can. The iodine loading test takes the "bromide factor" into account. Which is why it is done in only two labs who are specially equipped for it.

This might explain someone who is peeing out more iodine than he ingests.2) If people are really questioning the advisability of taking iodine, they should thoroughly read ALL the literature on the optimox site. I went through a long period of doubt and questioning before taking iodine myself. It took me about 4 months to be really convinced. The problem was everytime I read an article I ended up with more questions than answers (although I did find some answers along the way). So in the end I took all the articles that I had read and wrote down all the questions after I had read each one. I soon found that I was getting questions raised in one article answered in another and then the whole thing started to hand together. (I had some terrible brain fog at the time). I just needed to be organised and methodical. I ended up reading some of the articles four or five times. I know this must

sound hard for some people who have brain fog and feel tired, but in the end you feel more certain and in control of what you are doing and it takes a lot of the anxiety out of things. Also if you write some things down, you don't forget them from brain fog.

I just wish I'd been organised from the beginning because it would have saved me half the time and effort.

Hope this doesn't sound too smart a***d.

MacGilchrist

From: coloredoctave <joanlulich@...>iodine Sent: Mon, 6 December, 2010 21:13:20Subject: Re: Estrogen and Iodine

Baker wrote: >> Once again we have a listmember claiming that anyone who isn't testing is > endangering themselves, and that is simply not helpful to people. It's not > true, and it's not helpful. Hello ,Your knowledge on this subject is terrific. It is beneficial to have more than one moderator on this forum to give more perspective and take the load off of but I don't think anyone benefits from the statement above.People have different styles of communicating. I know for myself, I will make a statement that really is up for debate but nobody understands that because of my delivery. I assume I am starting a conversation but most people think I've made up my mind.There is a mistrust of iodine because we are warned about how dangerous it is. It took me over a year to decide to take it. People need to take their own time to embrace iodine and it is more helpful if

others understand that. We don't need to be chastised for our fears. Personally, I want to know everything so I can make educated decisions for myself.Someone e-mailed me off list to tell me that they had high mercury levels in their blood after taking iodine. They obviously didn't feel free to post that on the list which doesn't benefit them or us. It is here where these kind of problems can be solved, instead they went on their way without a word.Grzbear on CureZone posted that he thought iodine makes bones brittle because he chipped a tooth. He had his urine tested at the Cayce Clinic and he is peeing out more iodine than he is ingesting. These are very important pieces to the puzzle when taking iodine. It is exciting to solve them. Maybe, the group needs to be divided into a beginner and advanced group or the believers and yet to believe, still questioning people. Not everything needs to be in the form of a question.

I really do appreciate what you bring to the forum . Validation goes a LONG way.Thanks for everything,Joan

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Thank you, , for expressing this well. This is exactly what I did,

but at the time I had some time on my hands and I was in a very low ebb

healthwise and I was determined to get the information digested as swiftly

as possible. So I did it the organized way from the beginning. I too

started from the same place many others have started-- I'd been fed the

same myths and lies everyone else has, even though I've studied

orthomolecular dietary therapy for decades.

At this point, I feel pretty strongly that any mineral theory that doesn't

take into account the effect of iodine on the body down to the cellular

level, is missing a big chunk of the picture. Western medicine is so

(falsely) scared of iodine that studies pretend it doesn't exist when doing

physiology. I think it's even possible that a lot of what is believed about

mineral physiology is outright wrong because all the studies have been done

on people who were desperately deficient in iodine.

In any case, my surety about iodine is not based on faith. It is based on

reading the science. The real science, not the half-science or the

myth-science. As long as someone is prepared to make the distinction, it's

easy to get the truth, and as long as someone is able to say goodbye to the

myth-science, it's easy to stay grounded in the truth. However, it's not

all that easy for everyone given our socialization to believe without

questioning in the medical industrial complex. In my case, experiences as

a toddler ensured I would question the medical industrial complex all my

life, and here I am.

--

>Dear Joan,

>Two points in your post caught my attention and perhaps could do with some

>discussion.

>1) The guy peeing out more iodine than he ingested. Well, where did he

>get his test done? Getting a run of the mill iodine in urine test can

>give wildly inaccurate results. When the iodine doctors started using the

>iodine loading test, they sent each sample to two laboratories. No two

>sample pairs had the same result and sometimes the results from one lab

>were twice the amount in the other for the same sample, if I remember

>rightly. Anyhow, wild discrepancies in these samples.

>According to the literature that I have read on the

><http://www.optimox.com>www.optimox.com site this is probably caused by

>two things. (i) Most labs have machines calibrated for µg and not mg

>measurements of iodine. (ii) There is a problem with the electrodes used

>when doing regular testing for iodine. I believe that high levels of

>bromide, which is very close to iodine on the periodic table, can affect

>the reading for iodine. I believe that Dr Flechas or someone uses a

>filtering technique on each urine sample to remove bromide so that it does

>not affect the iodine measurement. If anyone is interested in reading up

>on this there has been a paper published on the optimox site which

>explains it all much better than I can. The iodine loading test takes the

> " bromide factor " into account. Which is why it is done in only two labs

>who are specially equipped for it.

>This might explain someone who is peeing out more iodine than he ingests.

>2) If people are really questioning the advisability of taking iodine,

>they should thoroughly read ALL the literature on the optimox site. I

>went through a long period of doubt and questioning before taking iodine

>myself. It took me about 4 months to be really convinced. The problem

>was everytime I read an article I ended up with more questions than

>answers (although I did find some answers along the way). So in the end I

>took all the articles that I had read and wrote down all the questions

>after I had read each one. I soon found that I was getting questions

>raised in one article answered in another and then the whole thing started

>to hand together. (I had some terrible brain fog at the time). I just

>needed to be organised and methodical. I ended up reading some of the

>articles four or five times. I know this must sound hard for some people

>who have brain fog and feel tired, but in the end you feel more certain

>and in control of what you are doing and it takes a lot of the anxiety out

>of things. Also if you write some things down, you don't forget them from

>brain fog.

>I just wish I'd been organised from the beginning because it would have

>saved me half the time and effort.

>Hope this doesn't sound too smart a***d.

> MacGilchrist

>

>

>From: coloredoctave <joanlulich@...>

>iodine

>Sent: Mon, 6 December, 2010 21:13:20

>Subject: Re: Estrogen and Iodine

>

>

>

> Baker wrote:

> >

> > Once again we have a listmember claiming that anyone who isn't testing is

> > endangering themselves, and that is simply not helpful to people. It's not

> > true, and it's not helpful.

>

>Hello ,

>

>Your knowledge on this subject is terrific. It is beneficial to have more

>than one moderator on this forum to give more perspective and take the

>load off of but I don't think anyone benefits from the statement

>above.

>

>People have different styles of communicating. I know for myself, I will

>make a statement that really is up for debate but nobody understands that

>because of my delivery. I assume I am starting a conversation but most

>people think I've made up my mind.

>

>There is a mistrust of iodine because we are warned about how dangerous it

>is. It took me over a year to decide to take it. People need to take their

>own time to embrace iodine and it is more helpful if others understand

>that. We don't need to be chastised for our fears. Personally, I want to

>know everything so I can make educated decisions for myself.

>

>Someone e-mailed me off list to tell me that they had high mercury levels

>in their blood after taking iodine. They obviously didn't feel free to

>post that on the list which doesn't benefit them or us. It is here where

>these kind of problems can be solved, instead they went on their way

>without a word.

>

>Grzbear on CureZone posted that he thought iodine makes bones brittle

>because he chipped a tooth. He had his urine tested at the Cayce Clinic

>and he is peeing out more iodine than he is ingesting. These are very

>important pieces to the puzzle when taking iodine. It is exciting to solve

>them.

>

>Maybe, the group needs to be divided into a beginner and advanced group or

>the believers and yet to believe, still questioning people. Not everything

>needs to be in the form of a question.

>

>I really do appreciate what you bring to the forum . Validation

>goes a LONG way.

>

>Thanks for everything,

>Joan

~~~ There is no way to peace; peace is the way ~~~~

--A.J. Muste

[Guest guest]

Hi ,

He got his test done at the Cayce clinic. Doesn't it have a pretty good

reputation?

The CureZone iodine forum split into two groups a while back, they report,

because some of them were having brittle bones. No one would really give

details, they just tell you to look in the archives.

I didn't take iodine in the beginning because of what Ray Peat wrote, joined the

iodine group twice and it was this group that convinced me to do what is the

most important thing in my journey to healing. I still love Ray Peat. I don't

have to agree with everything he says.

Joan

> >

> > Once again we have a listmember claiming that anyone who isn't testing is

> > endangering themselves, and that is simply not helpful to people. It's not

> > true, and it's not helpful.

>

> Hello ,

>

> Your knowledge on this subject is terrific. It is beneficial to have more than

> one moderator on this forum to give more perspective and take the load off of

> but I don't think anyone benefits from the statement above.

>

> People have different styles of communicating. I know for myself, I will make

a

> statement that really is up for debate but nobody understands that because of

my

> delivery. I assume I am starting a conversation but most people think I've

made

> up my mind.

>

> There is a mistrust of iodine because we are warned about how dangerous it is.

> It took me over a year to decide to take it. People need to take their own

time

> to embrace iodine and it is more helpful if others understand that. We don't

> need to be chastised for our fears. Personally, I want to know everything so I

> can make educated decisions for myself.

>

> Someone e-mailed me off list to tell me that they had high mercury levels in

> their blood after taking iodine. They obviously didn't feel free to post that

on

> the list which doesn't benefit them or us. It is here where these kind of

> problems can be solved, instead they went on their way without a word.

>

> Grzbear on CureZone posted that he thought iodine makes bones brittle because

he

> chipped a tooth. He had his urine tested at the Cayce Clinic and he is peeing

> out more iodine than he is ingesting. These are very important pieces to the

> puzzle when taking iodine. It is exciting to solve them.

>

>

> Maybe, the group needs to be divided into a beginner and advanced group or the

> believers and yet to believe, still questioning people. Not everything needs

to

> be in the form of a question.

>

>

> I really do appreciate what you bring to the forum . Validation goes a

> LONG way.

>

> Thanks for everything,

> Joan

>

[Guest guest]

I thought only Dr Flecha's and Dr Hakala's labs did the Iodine Loading Test in US. But I don't live in the states so I am not 100% sure.

MacGilchrist

From: coloredoctave <joanlulich@...>iodine Sent: Wed, 8 December, 2010 4:39:30Subject: Re: Estrogen and Iodine

Hi ,He got his test done at the Cayce clinic. Doesn't it have a pretty good reputation? The CureZone iodine forum split into two groups a while back, they report, because some of them were having brittle bones. No one would really give details, they just tell you to look in the archives.I didn't take iodine in the beginning because of what Ray Peat wrote, joined the iodine group twice and it was this group that convinced me to do what is the most important thing in my journey to healing. I still love Ray Peat. I don't have to agree with everything he says. Joan > >> > Once again we have a listmember claiming that anyone who isn't testing is > > endangering themselves, and that is simply not helpful to people. It's not > > true, and it's not helpful. >

> Hello ,> > Your knowledge on this subject is terrific. It is beneficial to have more than > one moderator on this forum to give more perspective and take the load off of > but I don't think anyone benefits from the statement above.> > People have different styles of communicating. I know for myself, I will make a > statement that really is up for debate but nobody understands that because of my > delivery. I assume I am starting a conversation but most people think I've made > up my mind.> > There is a mistrust of iodine because we are warned about how dangerous it is. > It took me over a year to decide to take it. People need to take their own time > to embrace iodine and it is more helpful if others understand that. We don't > need to be chastised for our fears. Personally, I want to know everything so I > can make

educated decisions for myself.> > Someone e-mailed me off list to tell me that they had high mercury levels in > their blood after taking iodine. They obviously didn't feel free to post that on > the list which doesn't benefit them or us. It is here where these kind of > problems can be solved, instead they went on their way without a word.> > Grzbear on CureZone posted that he thought iodine makes bones brittle because he > chipped a tooth. He had his urine tested at the Cayce Clinic and he is peeing > out more iodine than he is ingesting. These are very important pieces to the > puzzle when taking iodine. It is exciting to solve them. > > > Maybe, the group needs to be divided into a beginner and advanced group or the > believers and yet to believe, still questioning people. Not everything needs to > be in the form of a question. > >

> I really do appreciate what you bring to the forum . Validation goes a > LONG way.> > Thanks for everything,> Joan>

[Guest guest]

Hi,

I have heard that using Low Dose Naltrexone with iodine helps with getting pregnant and the ability to continue to carry a child if you have problems. I know these two have really helped me. I found the LDN first, then the iodine. I had to back down on the iodine unfortunately, to address the adrenal issues. I will be back on it though as soon as I can.

Best wishes for a baby.

Glowing, grace~

[Guest guest]

ALA is a powerful chelator and one should not take it if one is mercury toxic.

If you don't use it wisely (as in the Cutler protocol www.noamalgam.com), you

can end up with moving mercury in your body which can make you very, very sick.

I know from personal experience.

Ziggy, I am wondering if your detox symptoms are actually caused by mercury and

not iodine.

Sally

[Guest guest]

dr berkson the expert of ALA never mention amlagam as problem with ALA.i use ALA with amalgam with no problem

 

Alpha Lipoic Acid Breakthrough: The Superb Antioxidant That May Slow Aging, Repair Liver Damage, and Reduce the Risk of Cancer, Heart Disease, and Diabetes

what he well mention ,is to use B-complex caps and only product with german ingredients like metabolic maintenance,and never R-ALA,because it is contaminated

On Sat, Dec 11, 2010 at 6:41 PM, sally_ooh <sally@...> wrote:

 

ALA is a powerful chelator and one should not take it if one is mercury toxic. If you don't use it wisely (as in the Cutler protocol www.noamalgam.com), you can end up with moving mercury in your body which can make you very, very sick. I know from personal experience.

Ziggy, I am wondering if your detox symptoms are actually caused by mercury and not iodine.Sally

[Guest guest]

I don't know Dr. Berkson and am not familiar with his work. If he is helping

you, that is great. I follow Andy Cutler's chelation protocol

(www.noamalgam.com, doctor as in doctorate in science, chemist, chelated himself

and has guided others) for a few years now. Am very satisfied with this

protocol. He recommends ALA, but in small frequent doses. Different strokes.

>

> >

> >

> > ALA is a powerful chelator and one should not take it if one is mercury

> > toxic. If you don't use it wisely (as in the Cutler protocol

> > www.noamalgam.com), you can end up with moving mercury in your body which

> > can make you very, very sick. I know from personal experience.

> >

> > Ziggy, I am wondering if your detox symptoms are actually caused by mercury

> > and not iodine.

> >

> > Sally

> >

> >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Hi Sally,

No doubt I was toxic with mercury last year. A challenge test through Doctor's

Data in Chicago showed that my levels were significantly elevated.

I went through intensive chelation (DMPS and EDTA) last summer when I found out

which brought my levels down to the 'acceptable' range within 3 months.

In May of this year, I started taking ALA 100mg / daily, and recently increased

my dose to 600 mg three times daily (under the direction of my new

practitioner). It's powerful stuff.

The practitioner I've started seeing used vega testing and live blood analysis

which showed I am still detoxing at a high rate (he felt this was likely related

to my high iodine intake), high levels of oxidative stress, and that my

neuropathways are showing signs of the 'memory' of being toxic with mercury, but

are no longer toxic. My liver and thyroid are working normally.

He has a PhD in Nutrition and biophysiology, but said a good deal of his

practice involves advising people in energy work (eg meditation). I believe

there's a lot to be said about that especially as heavy metals interfere with

energy transmission in the body. And really, acupuncture, is another method of

redirectly energy.

Not to stir the pot (again) but he agreed that such a high dose of iodine was

likely interferring with my estradiol levels. I have noticed that my body

appears to be normalizing now that I've dropped back to 2 drops of Lugol's

daily. It will be interesting to see what my estradiol levels are when I have

them retested in a couple of weeks.

Ziggy

>

> ALA is a powerful chelator and one should not take it if one is mercury toxic.

If you don't use it wisely (as in the Cutler protocol www.noamalgam.com), you

can end up with moving mercury in your body which can make you very, very sick.

I know from personal experience.

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> Ziggy, I am wondering if your detox symptoms are actually caused by mercury

and not iodine.

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> Sally

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