Re: Weight gain and Iodine

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I am sure I read that iodine in larger amounts raises the progesterone levels in your body, so that is probably what is causing the weight gain. From: Engtovo <engtovo@...>iodine Sent: Fri, 22 January, 2010 18:51:20Subject: Re: Weight gain and

Iodine

If you are not having any symptoms on a high enough level of iodine then you are successfully moving the bromide out, so technically you are detoxing, just detoxing successfully which would be the goal; to replace the bromide and fluoride with iodine to reach saturation without overwhelming your body in the process.

Engtovo

Re: Weight gain and Iodine

Posted by: "lookonthebriteside " slehr05 (DOT) com lookonthebriteside

Thu Jan 21, 2010 6:22 pm (PST)

Actually, I thought that when others mentioned what I called "silent" detox, it meant that they were detoxing without any symptoms. In other words detox doesn't always have symptoms...It may be going on when we don't even know. Is my understanding correct? I think the idea that weight gain is a detox symptom just arose yesterday. If we recognize it as a symptom (which seems reasonable), then it's not really silent...It would be a big deal to me!Regardless, extra salt and vitamin C are only warranted when actual symptoms of detox are present (which would include weight gain)?Sherry

[Guest guest]

But the person who made the very first post on this thread a few days ago was

only taking 12.5 mg of Iodoral...That's a small amount of iodine...

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> I am sure I read that iodine in larger amounts raises the progesterone levels

in your body, so that is probably what is causing the weight gain.

>

>

>

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> ________________________________

> From: Engtovo <engtovo@...>

> iodine

> Sent: Fri, 22 January, 2010 18:51:20

> Subject: Re: Weight gain and Iodine

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>

> If you are not having any symptoms on a high enough level of iodine then

> you are successfully moving the bromide out, so technically you are detoxing,

> just detoxing successfully which would be the goal; to replace the bromide and

> fluoride with iodine to reach saturation without overwhelming your body in the

> process.

>

> Engtovo

>

> Re: Weight gain and Iodine

> Posted by: " lookonthebriteside " slehr05 (DOT) com lookonthebriteside

> Thu Jan 21, 2010

> 6:22 pm (PST)

>

>

> Actually, I thought that when others mentioned what I

> called " silent " detox, it meant that they were detoxing without any symptoms.

In

> other words detox doesn't always have symptoms...It may be going on when we

> don't even know. Is my understanding correct?

>

> I think the idea that

> weight gain is a detox symptom just arose yesterday. If we recognize it as a

> symptom (which seems reasonable), then it's not really silent...It would be a

> big deal to me!

>

> Regardless, extra salt and vitamin C are only warranted

> when actual symptoms of detox are present (which would include weight

> gain)?

>

> Sherry

>

[Guest guest]

I thought it was estrogen that caused weight gain...AnneOn Jan 23, 2010, at 4:30 PM, lookonthebriteside wrote: But the person who made the very first post on this thread a few days ago was only taking 12.5 mg of Iodoral...That's a small amount of iodine... > > I am sure I read that iodine in larger amounts raises the progesterone levels in your body, so that is probably what is causing the weight gain. > > > > > ________________________________ > From: Engtovo <engtovo@...> > iodine > Sent: Fri, 22 January, 2010 18:51:20 > Subject: Re: Weight gain and Iodine > > > If you are not having any symptoms on a high enough level of iodine then > you are successfully moving the bromide out, so technically you are detoxing, > just detoxing successfully which would be the goal; to replace the bromide and > fluoride with iodine to reach saturation without overwhelming your body in the > process. > > Engtovo > > Re: Weight gain and Iodine > Posted by: "lookonthebriteside " slehr05 (DOT) com lookonthebriteside > Thu Jan 21, 2010 > 6:22 pm (PST) > > > Actually, I thought that when others mentioned what I > called "silent" detox, it meant that they were detoxing without any symptoms. In > other words detox doesn't always have symptoms...It may be going on when we > don't even know. Is my understanding correct? > > I think the idea that > weight gain is a detox symptom just arose yesterday. If we recognize it as a > symptom (which seems reasonable), then it's not really silent...It would be a > big deal to me! > > Regardless, extra salt and vitamin C are only warranted > when actual symptoms of detox are present (which would include weight > gain)? > > Sherry >

[Guest guest]

When I used progesterone cream for hot flushes (natural) I put on weight and couldn't lose weight until I stopped it. Iodine (and I didn't take huge amounts) made my breasts really sore and I had very heavy periods as well as weight gain. I only take it occasionally now. Pregnant women have very high progesterone levels, and they put on weight all over quite easily - except for the lucky ones!AnneFrom: Anne Seals

<anneseals@...>iodine Sent: Sun, 24 January, 2010 3:45:35Subject: Re: Re: Weight gain and Iodine

I thought it was estrogen that caused weight gain...AnneOn Jan 23, 2010, at 4:30 PM, lookonthebriteside wrote: But the person who made the very first post on this thread a few days ago was only taking 12.5 mg of Iodoral...That' s a small amount of iodine... > > I am sure I read that iodine in larger amounts raises the progesterone levels in your body, so that is probably what is causing the weight gain. > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > From: Engtovo <engtovo@... > > iodinegroups (DOT) com > Sent: Fri, 22 January, 2010 18:51:20 > Subject: Re: Weight gain and Iodine > > > If you are not having any symptoms on a high enough level of iodine then > you are successfully moving the bromide out, so technically you are detoxing, > just detoxing successfully which would be the goal; to replace the bromide and > fluoride with iodine to reach saturation without overwhelming your body in the > process. > > Engtovo > > Re: Weight gain and Iodine > Posted by: "lookonthebriteside " slehr05 (DOT) com lookonthebriteside > Thu Jan 21, 2010 > 6:22 pm (PST) > > > Actually, I thought that when others mentioned what I > called "silent" detox, it meant

that they were detoxing without any symptoms. In > other words detox doesn't always have symptoms...It may be going on when we > don't even know. Is my understanding correct? > > I think the idea that > weight gain is a detox symptom just arose yesterday. If we recognize it as a > symptom (which seems reasonable), then it's not really silent...It would be a > big deal to me! > > Regardless, extra salt and vitamin C are only warranted > when actual symptoms of detox are present (which would include weight > gain)? > > Sherry >

[Guest guest]

When I had used progesterone cream in the past it was a disaster / moody - depressed and insta- fat!!!Sent from my iPhoneOn Jan 24, 2010, at 2:45 PM, Anne Meynell <meyneanne@...> wrote:

When I used progesterone cream for hot flushes (natural) I put on weight and couldn't lose weight until I stopped it. Iodine (and I didn't take huge amounts) made my breasts really sore and I had very heavy periods as well as weight gain. I only take it occasionally now. Pregnant women have very high progesterone levels, and they put on weight all over quite easily - except for the lucky ones!AnneFrom: Anne Seals

<annesealscomcast (DOT) net>iodine Sent: Sun, 24 January, 2010 3:45:35Subject: Re: Re: Weight gain and Iodine

I thought it was estrogen that caused weight gain...AnneOn Jan 23, 2010, at 4:30 PM, lookonthebriteside wrote: But the person who made the very first post on this thread a few days ago was only taking 12.5 mg of Iodoral...That' s a small amount of iodine... > > I am sure I read that iodine in larger amounts raises the progesterone levels in your body, so that is probably what is causing the weight gain. > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > From: Engtovo <engtovo@... > > iodinegroups (DOT) com > Sent: Fri, 22 January, 2010 18:51:20 > Subject: Re: Weight gain and Iodine > > > If you are not having any symptoms on a high enough level of iodine then > you are successfully moving the bromide out, so technically you are detoxing, > just detoxing successfully which would be the goal; to replace the bromide and > fluoride with iodine to reach saturation without overwhelming your body in the > process. > > Engtovo > > Re: Weight gain and Iodine > Posted by: "lookonthebriteside " slehr05 (DOT) com lookonthebriteside > Thu Jan 21, 2010 > 6:22 pm (PST) > > > Actually, I thought that when others mentioned what I > called "silent" detox, it meant

that they were detoxing without any symptoms. In > other words detox doesn't always have symptoms...It may be going on when we > don't even know. Is my understanding correct? > > I think the idea that > weight gain is a detox symptom just arose yesterday. If we recognize it as a > symptom (which seems reasonable), then it's not really silent...It would be a > big deal to me! > > Regardless, extra salt and vitamin C are only warranted > when actual symptoms of detox are present (which would include weight > gain)? > > Sherry >

[Guest guest]

Is it alright to only take iodine occasionally?

Anne, How much iodine were you taking when you gained weight? How much did you

gain? Were you taking the companion supplements at the time of the weight gain?

Sherry

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> >> I am sure I read that iodine in larger amounts raises the progesterone

levels in your body, so that is probably what is causing the weight gain.

> >>

> >>

> >>

> >>

> >> ____________ _________ _________ __

> >> From: Engtovo <engtovo@ >

> >> iodinegroups (DOT) com

> >> Sent: Fri, 22 January, 2010 18:51:20

> >> Subject: Re: Weight gain and Iodine

> >>

> >>

> >> If you are not having any symptoms on a high enough level of iodine then

> >> you are successfully moving the bromide out, so technically you are

detoxing,

> >> just detoxing successfully which would be the goal; to replace the bromide

and

> >> fluoride with iodine to reach saturation without overwhelming your body in

the

> >> process.

> >>

> >> Engtovo

> >>

> >> Re: Weight gain and Iodine

> >> Posted by: " lookonthebriteside " slehr05 (DOT) com lookonthebriteside

> >> Thu Jan 21, 2010

> >> 6:22 pm (PST)

> >>

> >>

> >> Actually, I thought that when others mentioned what I

> >> called " silent " detox, it meant that they were detoxing without any

symptoms. In

> >> other words detox doesn't always have symptoms...It may be going on when we

> >> don't even know. Is my understanding correct?

> >>

> >> I think the idea that

> >> weight gain is a detox symptom just arose yesterday. If we recognize it as

a

> >> symptom (which seems reasonable), then it's not really silent...It would be

a

> >> big deal to me!

> >>

> >> Regardless, extra salt and vitamin C are only warranted

> >> when actual symptoms of detox are present (which would include weight

> >> gain)?

> >>

> >> Sherry

> >>

> >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Hi Anne,

It seems like I have read about a woman's body converting progesterone to

estrogen if the liver is clogged. I think I had similar problems with

Progest-E. I also had some problems several months ago when upping Iodoral to

100 mg - got and kept respiratory infection for over a month and had to back

off. Am now on 50 of Lugol's in a.m. on empty stomach (thanks to a previous

poster who recommended this) as well as Iodoral 50 mg several hours later with

morning meal. Have noticed some more hormonal issues, but I am 53-years-old.

Does not seem like as many as before. Have been taking a lot of herbs to

support the liver over past few months and taking bitters with meals, which

supposedly helps detox the liver. Am feeling better on the total 100 mg daily.

Do not have money for labs or MD visits.

Could barely take a few drops of Lugol's two years ago - it knocked me on my

butt, so I thought there was something wrong with it. That was long before

coming to this group and learning so much about Iodine.

Lugol's makes my skin about as soft as Prolamine Iodine, moreso than Iodoral.

Beverly

>

> When I used progesterone cream for hot flushes (natural) I put on weight and

couldn't lose weight until I stopped it. Iodine (and I didn't take huge

amounts) made my breasts really sore and I had very heavy periods as well as

weight gain. I only take it occasionally now. Pregnant women have very high

progesterone levels, and they put on weight all over quite easily - except for

the lucky ones!

[Guest guest]

I agree with this Bruce. Weight gain is not something

that I should be considered a typical side effect of iodine supplementation.

As for me, I probably would have been a little hesitant to start iodine too

knowing some had gained weight, but the evidence that I needed it was so

overwhelming that I still would have started it anyway. Most women

struggle with their weight anyway, but if you add on to that being hypothyroid,

middle aged, stressed out, estrogen dominant, and eating a typical American

diet, our metabolisms are already at a crawl.

Just for the record, I lost weight since starting the

protocol in September. I am now down about 15 lbs. I have been on

50mg Iodoral for 6 weeks. I did have a little spike during Christmas

but I’m back to losing weight. I no longer take Synthroid (stopped

cold turkey a year ago). I don’t know what my numbers are now since

I’m in the Twin Cities area and can’t find a doctor who’ll prescribe

desiccated thyroid anyway. I’m feeling so much better now than when

I was on Synthroid, and I’m hoping to be able to continue with my weight

loss. I’d also like to thank the group and Steph for all this

valuable information on iodine and companion nutrients that have transformed my

life, and my kids’ lives.

Loralee

[Guest guest]

That's good to hear, Loralee!

I was wondering...What does of iodine did you start with and how did you

increase up to 50 mg?

Sherry

[Guest guest]

That sounds great, good to hear a good report! Keep on keeping on

Related, I was just reading the below, quoting the good part but, not

adding a link unless requested because its written by a dr into drugs and

who knows little, but the little below is a heads up on why to check reverse

t3;

" We had one person who was eating 800 calories a day after having gastric

bypass and she was still gaining weight. Nobody believed that was all she

was eating until they put her in the hospital and monitored her food intake.

They insisted her thyroid was fine, as she had a normal TSH, T4 and T3. When

we checked her reverse T3, however, and it was over 800 and her leptin was

75. We checked her metabolic rate and it was 45% below normal. Dieting alone

would, of course, never work with such a patient.

Also, toxins such as biphenyl-A can block the thyroid receptors everywhere

in the body except for the pituitary, which has different receptors. So due

to the ubiquitous nature of these toxins, I believe that everyone has a

relative deficiency of thyroid activity that is not detected by the TSH.

People blame food intake and lack of exercise for the obesity problem in

this country, but I think a major problem is the thyroid-disrupting toxins,

as well as stress... "

Interesting, and may be helpful for some.

Bruce

----- Original Message -----

From: Loralee Ahmann

I agree with this Bruce. Weight gain is not something that I should be

considered a typical side effect of iodine supplementation. As for me, I

probably would have been a little hesitant to start iodine too knowing some

had gained weight, but the evidence that I needed it was so overwhelming

that I still would have started it anyway. Most women struggle with their

weight anyway, but if you add on to that being hypothyroid, middle aged,

stressed out, estrogen dominant, and eating a typical American diet, our

metabolisms are already at a crawl.

Just for the record, I lost weight since starting the protocol in September.

I am now down about 15 lbs. I have been on 50mg Iodoral for 6 weeks. I

did have a little spike during Christmas but I'm back to losing weight. I

no longer take Synthroid (stopped cold turkey a year ago). I don't know

what my numbers are now since I'm in the Twin Cities area and can't find a

doctor who'll prescribe desiccated thyroid anyway. I'm feeling so much

better now than when I was on Synthroid, and I'm hoping to be able to

continue with my weight loss. I'd also like to thank the group and Steph

for all this valuable information on iodine and companion nutrients that

have transformed my life, and my kids' lives.

Loralee

[Guest guest]

Interesting, Bruce...But what would one need to do in order to get rid of these

thyroid-disrupting toxins? I'm assuming that these are not the same type of

toxins (halides) that are affected by iodine supplementation.

>

> That sounds great, good to hear a good report! Keep on keeping on

>

> Related, I was just reading the below, quoting the good part but, not

> adding a link unless requested because its written by a dr into drugs and

> who knows little, but the little below is a heads up on why to check reverse

> t3;

>

> " We had one person who was eating 800 calories a day after having gastric

> bypass and she was still gaining weight. Nobody believed that was all she

> was eating until they put her in the hospital and monitored her food intake.

> They insisted her thyroid was fine, as she had a normal TSH, T4 and T3. When

> we checked her reverse T3, however, and it was over 800 and her leptin was

> 75. We checked her metabolic rate and it was 45% below normal. Dieting alone

> would, of course, never work with such a patient.

> Also, toxins such as biphenyl-A can block the thyroid receptors everywhere

> in the body except for the pituitary, which has different receptors. So due

> to the ubiquitous nature of these toxins, I believe that everyone has a

> relative deficiency of thyroid activity that is not detected by the TSH.

> People blame food intake and lack of exercise for the obesity problem in

> this country, but I think a major problem is the thyroid-disrupting toxins,

> as well as stress... "

>

> Interesting, and may be helpful for some.

>

> Bruce

>

> ----- Original Message -----

> From: Loralee Ahmann

>

> I agree with this Bruce. Weight gain is not something that I should be

> considered a typical side effect of iodine supplementation. As for me, I

> probably would have been a little hesitant to start iodine too knowing some

> had gained weight, but the evidence that I needed it was so overwhelming

> that I still would have started it anyway. Most women struggle with their

> weight anyway, but if you add on to that being hypothyroid, middle aged,

> stressed out, estrogen dominant, and eating a typical American diet, our

> metabolisms are already at a crawl.

>

> Just for the record, I lost weight since starting the protocol in September.

> I am now down about 15 lbs. I have been on 50mg Iodoral for 6 weeks. I

> did have a little spike during Christmas but I'm back to losing weight. I

> no longer take Synthroid (stopped cold turkey a year ago). I don't know

> what my numbers are now since I'm in the Twin Cities area and can't find a

> doctor who'll prescribe desiccated thyroid anyway. I'm feeling so much

> better now than when I was on Synthroid, and I'm hoping to be able to

> continue with my weight loss. I'd also like to thank the group and Steph

> for all this valuable information on iodine and companion nutrients that

> have transformed my life, and my kids' lives.

> Loralee

>

[Guest guest]

I just noticed a typo in my post to Loralee...What DOSE (not does) of iodine did

you start with and how did you increase up to 50 mg?

Sherry

>

> That's good to hear, Loralee!

>

> I was wondering...What does of iodine did you start with and how did you

increase up to 50 mg?

>

> Sherry

>

[Guest guest]

Not halides no;

The doctor actually spelled it wrong where I quoted him. lol

" In the final weeks of the Bush administration, FDA managers initiated

another round of research, a move that critics dismissed as a delaying

tactic that served the chemical industry's interest. " What is it that we don't

know? " said University of Missouri biologist Frederick Vom Saal, head of a

research team that pioneered research on low-dose BPA toxicity. " You can

always find out something else, but basically, we know enough to take action

now. There is a reasonable certainty of harm. "

Frederick Vom Saal I sent a link a while back where he was interviewed by

PBS, interesting, the chem companies tried to hush them up and buy him off

even.

EWG renewed its pressure on infant formula and canned food manufacturers to

use non-BPA food packaging.

http://www.ewg.org/chemindex/chemicals/bisphenolA

http://www.thedailygreen.com/environmental-news/latest/bisphenol-a-47091707

Has lots and shows the code used on the bottom of plastic containers to show

which are free of " that " chemical.

Bruce

----- Original Message -----

From: lookonthebriteside

Interesting, Bruce...But what would one need to do in order to get rid of

these thyroid-disrupting toxins? I'm assuming that these are not the same

type of toxins (halides) that are affected by iodine supplementation.

[Guest guest]

Thanks Sherry,

I started out on a 12.5 Iodoral pill cut in half, so 6.25mg,

since I was a little scared of the detox. I misunderstood the need for

the companion nutrients and didn’t start them right away, thinking they

were only in case I had symptoms. That was my bad since I hadn’t

done enough reading at that point. You really need to be supplementing

with Selenium when taking iodine or you could damage your thyroid.

I went to 12.5mg the next week and had some

pretty uncomfortable thyroid swelling for about a week. I also had heart

palps then and sweating (which I couldn’t ever do). I had to back

off a couple days due to a brassy taste, which got better after I started all

the companion nutrients and started salt loading a couple weeks later after I

located the sea salt. It took me about a month to feel OK on the 12.5 so

I moved to 25mg. I stayed on 25 for about another 5 weeks, during which

time I noticed complete resolution of my uncomfortable fibrocystic breast

issues!

From then I went rather effortlessly to three and then

4 pills, 50 mg, within a week. For me the higher dose is easier, and

Steph said that with Hashimotos people have more problems on the lower doses. I

might have had that but I wouldn’t know since my endo never checked

anything but TSH.

I think now that maybe my expectation that I would lose

weight may have helped it happen. The mind is a very powerful thing.

I wondered if anyone knows what happened in the Iodine Project with respect to

weight issues.

Loralee