Guest guest Posted September 7, 2005 Report Share Posted September 7, 2005 I have used a reverse osmosis water filter since Shaklee came out with their water filter over 20 years ago. I don't add anything to the water afterwards. I have an under the sink and another one that sits on the countertop and one that goes with me. Water is water. No matter where you go you can clean your water. _________________________________________________________________ Don’t just search. Find. Check out the new MSN Search! http://search.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200636ave/direct/01/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 10, 2005 Report Share Posted September 10, 2005 Had a " heated " discussion with someone on another list. I, too, use a Shaklee countertop reverse osmosis, but after reading this article I'm re-thinking the matter................... What!.....me laugh...nevah!!! ;-) Congrats on the better deal....too bad about the computer, unless you were jonesin' for a new one anyway!! Is this the piece? " Another problem with reverse osmosis is it wastes a tremendous amount of water. Only a small percentage of the water that enters the filter passes through. The rest is flushed out and wasted, unless it can be recovered. However, the waste water is far more contaminated and therefore hard to recycle or reuse. " " ..... bottled ice tea and others are often made with reverse osmosis water. This is an inferior water and also does not count as your water for the day. " Reverse Osmosis. This method involves passing water at high pressure through a plastic membrane with tiny holes in it. Most substances are too large to pass through the membrane and remain behind. The design includes a way of back flushing the membrane to prevent excessive buildup of solid matter on the membrane. Reverse osmosis units also contain carbon pre- and post-filters. The pre-filter extends the life of the membrane by removing larger particles and certain chemicals. The post-filter further purifies the water, removing chlorine and other gases that may pass through the filter. Reverse osmosis and deionization are used in most commercial " drinking water " facilities, water stores, supermarket machines and bottling plants for soda pop, juices, beer and many other drinks. It is much cheaper than distillation. Membrane technology continues to advance, enhancing the amount of water that can be produced per hour and lengthening the life of the membrane. However, eventually the holes in the membrane become too large, or become clogged and it must be replaced. One can test this to some degree with a total dissolved solid (TDS) meter. However, the reading is only a general indicator of the integrity of the membrane. There is no simple way to test the quality of the water. This means that one¹s water may or may not be as pure as one thinks. Also, the carbon filters become contaminated, as discussed above. Manufacturers suggest replacing the carbon filters at specified intervals or after a certain number of gallons have been produced. However, these are just averages. Other than the taste, it is most difficult to assess the cleanliness of the carbon filters. Reverse osmosis also does much more damage to the water. The interaction of the water with the plastic membrane alters the spin and moment of the water. A sensitive person will notice that reverse osmosis water has a slightly different texture or feeling than either spring or distilled water. Also, deuterium particles (heavy water) passes through the membrane easily. Lighter water that is bound to contaminants is stopped. The effect is to increase the weight of the water, an undesirable change. Reverse osmosis water also produces a water with very low mineral content and a more acid pH.. As with distilled water, it is a hungry water that leaches minerals from the body and does not supply needed nutrient minerals. As with distilled water, it should be used, if at all, for only limited periods of time for detoxification. Another problem with reverse osmosis is it wastes a tremendous amount of water. Only a small percentage of the water that enters the filter passes through. The rest is flushed out and wasted, unless it can be recovered. However, the waste water is far more contaminated and therefore hard to recycle or reuse. Another problem with reverse osmosis is the longevity of the plastics used in the membrane. The polycarbonate plastics degrade slowly in the landfills. Filled with toxic substances, they represent as source of long-term pollution. Extremely high-temperature incineration, which is gaining in popularity, is a much better form of disposal of the membranes. http://www.drlwilson.com/Articles/water.htm " RO systems are not normally " water efficient " and wastewater rejected by the system may be significant. Purchase and installation costs can be significant. RO membrane are notoriously prone to scale and bacterial build-ups and ruptures. Slime-forming bacteria can cause rapid deterioration of performance. If you own a Doulton filter you'll know what " slime-forming bacteria " is. When you clean the ceramic candle it is the pinkish slippery bio-film that built up on the surface slowing your filter flow rate. " " RO water lacks minerals and oxygen, hence the " flat " , " stale " taste when used for drinking. " http://doultonusa.com/HTML%20pages/water_treatment_technologies.htm#ro more..... Find out why reverse osmosis is not the complete answer to water filtration! Consuming only reverse osmosis water can be a health hazard! Health Harzard Reverse Osmosis Reverse Osmosis - Overview While the basic filtering level of Reverse Osmosis is great, it leaves several things to be desired. They are; Removes vital nutrients that are needed by our bodies. Reverse Osmosis membranes are degraded quickly by Bacteria and other biological pathogens in the water. More info on this below. Creates what is known as hungry water, highly pure water that will eat anything that it comes into contact with. This includes the vital minerals in our bodies and the pipes, storage tanks, even your glass that you drink from [if you drink from plastic, that means petrol chemicals in your water]. Both the toxins leached from containers and the mineral robbing capabilities of basic R/O water can lead to health problems and possible thereby to an early death. Standard Reverse Osmosis systems lacks a high concentration of the desirable things in water such as the elements of life known to science as ORME " Orbitally Rearranged Monoatomic Elements " , Metal Ion's, Monoatomic elements [some times referred to as Ormus or M-State] and other vital nutrients. http://miraculewater.com/WaterLibrary/RO.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 10, 2007 Report Share Posted July 10, 2007 Looky here... http://www.easyh2o.co.uk/ProductDetails.asp?ProductID=6 Nn. England. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 10, 2007 Report Share Posted July 10, 2007 In message <9890.98197.qm@...> you wrote: > Looky here... > > http://www.easyh2o.co.uk/ProductDetails.asp?ProductID=6 You must be joking!!!! -- +------------------ Minstrel@... --------------------+ <)))<>< http://www.therpc.f9.co.uk <)))<>< http://www.AnswersInGenesis.com +----------------- http://www.Gotquestions.org ------------------+ Life is what happens to you when you make other plans. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 10, 2007 Report Share Posted July 10, 2007 In message <9890.98197.qm@...> you wrote: > Looky here... > > http://www.easyh2o.co.uk/ProductDetails.asp?ProductID=6 You must be joking!!!! -- +------------------ Minstrel@... --------------------+ <)))<>< http://www.therpc.f9.co.uk <)))<>< http://www.AnswersInGenesis.com +----------------- http://www.Gotquestions.org ------------------+ Life is what happens to you when you make other plans. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 10, 2007 Report Share Posted July 10, 2007 Advert for RO equipt @ http://www.easyh2o. co.uk/ProductDet ails.asp? ProductID= 6 Margret says... You must be joking!!!! says... I kid you not! I hadn't much of an idea what folks were on about so I went for a " Ratch about " and found that bit of kit. There's keen and healthy, look you. Nn. England. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 10, 2007 Report Share Posted July 10, 2007 Advert for RO equipt @ http://www.easyh2o. co.uk/ProductDet ails.asp? ProductID= 6 Margret says... You must be joking!!!! says... I kid you not! I hadn't much of an idea what folks were on about so I went for a " Ratch about " and found that bit of kit. There's keen and healthy, look you. Nn. England. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 10, 2007 Report Share Posted July 10, 2007 In message <767971.65836.qm@...> you wrote: > Advert for RO equipt @ > http://www.easyh2o. co.uk/ProductDet ails.asp? ProductID= 6 > Margret says... > You must be joking!!!! says... I kid you not! I hadn't much of an > idea what folks were on about so I went for a " Ratch about " and found that > bit of kit. > There's keen and healthy, look you. Bet, your're having one, of course ;-) Have fun, ! And don't forget to speak of your experiences :-) Margret ... sipping Kombucha.... again (speak of addiction ;-)) -- +------------------ Minstrel@... --------------------+ <)))<>< http://www.therpc.f9.co.uk <)))<>< http://www.AnswersInGenesis.com +----------------- http://www.Gotquestions.org ------------------+ The name of Yahweh is a strong tower; the righteous run to him and are safe. (Proverbs 18:1) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 10, 2007 Report Share Posted July 10, 2007 In message <767971.65836.qm@...> you wrote: > Advert for RO equipt @ > http://www.easyh2o. co.uk/ProductDet ails.asp? ProductID= 6 > Margret says... > You must be joking!!!! says... I kid you not! I hadn't much of an > idea what folks were on about so I went for a " Ratch about " and found that > bit of kit. > There's keen and healthy, look you. Bet, your're having one, of course ;-) Have fun, ! And don't forget to speak of your experiences :-) Margret ... sipping Kombucha.... again (speak of addiction ;-)) -- +------------------ Minstrel@... --------------------+ <)))<>< http://www.therpc.f9.co.uk <)))<>< http://www.AnswersInGenesis.com +----------------- http://www.Gotquestions.org ------------------+ The name of Yahweh is a strong tower; the righteous run to him and are safe. (Proverbs 18:1) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 11, 2007 Report Share Posted July 11, 2007 > > Looky here... > > http://www.easyh2o.co.uk/ProductDetails.asp?ProductID=6 > > > Nn. England. Hi there...I have a unit very similar to this in my home....rent it from Culligan...(a company that does a lot of business in bottled and water softening/conditioning in the US) For years I had five gal water bottles delivered...they just got to heavy for me to hoist onto the dispenser...so now I have one of these. They take just about all the impurities out of H20 whether from a city line or a well. To me it tastes fresh and sweet. Besides you will find that very many of your bottled waters are actually just city water that has gone through this process! It's probably better if your bottled water has gone through the RO process as otherwise any Tom, Dick or Harry can bottle water from any well and call it spring water with no guarantee of purity. Just my experience and opinion. Here the RO unit rents per month for the cost of three five gallon bottels of RO or distilled H2O Gayle Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 1, 2010 Report Share Posted June 1, 2010 Hi, I was strongly considering purchasing a reverse osmosis filter for my kitchen water, however, the company I phoned for more info (New Wave Enviro) said that I should reconsider using RO as it removes all minerals from the water as well as impurities. I use a 10 stage carbon filter now which he says is better because it puts the water at neutral. My question is, since I take many nutritional supplements to support my adrenals and thyroid, would this concept still be an issue? Thyroid cancer and saving my thyroid is my issue. Would it be better to just know I have clean water albeit empty?? Thanks, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 2, 2010 Report Share Posted June 2, 2010 Wow.That is awesome.I have thought for years that the Reverse Osmosis system which costs $1000,I have heard, is the only system that gets out everything plus fluoride.It is nice to know there is something cheaper.AliOn Jun 1, 2010, at 9:35 PM, Baker wrote:I've been using Crystal Quest brand the last several years, because they have a fluoride filter. You'd want to get a filter setup that has several stages after the fluoride, which removes any aluminum that was added in the fluoride removal stage. They start at $99 for a countertop model.http://www.crystalquest.com/Fluoridefilters.htm--At 08:34 PM 6/1/2010, you wrote:>Hi ,>I have similar questions about water filters and I am on a very limited >budget. I have been using a Britta water pitcher and using detox drops to >get any impurities that may be left. I don't know if those drops do >anything or not as I have no scientific evidence. I got them offf of Dr >Dehaan's web site. What is the name of your 10 stage carbon water filter?>Diane>>>>From: spacejunkie2001us <scastor@...>>Subject: Re: reverse osmosis>iodine >Date: Tuesday, June 1, 2010, 9:18 PM>>>>I would not use a filter that removes all minerals if you're not replacing >them all. I use a Nikken filter that has mineral rocks in the bottom, >replacing the minerals.>>> >> > Hi, I was strongly considering purchasing a reverse osmosis filter for > my kitchen water, however, the company I phoned for more info (New Wave > Enviro) said that I should reconsider using RO as it removes all minerals > from the water as well as impurities. I use a 10 stage carbon filter now > which he says is better because it puts the water at neutral.> >> > My question is, since I take many nutritional supplements to support my > adrenals and thyroid, would this concept still be an issue? Thyroid > cancer and saving my thyroid is my issue. Would it be better to just know > I have clean water albeit empty??> > Thanks,> > > >>>>>>>>No virus found in this incoming message.>Checked by AVG - www.avg.com>Version: 9.0.819 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/2911 - Release Date: 06/01/10 >13:25:00~~~ There is no way to peace; peace is the way ~~~~--A.J. Muste Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 2, 2010 Report Share Posted June 2, 2010 I've installed 2 separate Reverse Osmosis + DI (deionization, to really make sure all the fluoride is gone) that I bought off ebay for a little over $100 each and they have been working well for years with just a little maintenance to change the filters. I don't worry about minerals though because my diet is high in minerals as I drink a lot of fresh raw milk and also prefer drinking a weak herbal or (organic) green tea as opposed to water...which would put minerals back in the water. - > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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