Re: Myomin-Estrogen dominance, Period

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estrogen dominance must mostlt with bio identic progesterone

On Mon, Jan 18, 2010 at 6:29 PM, A. <rubyrain11@...> wrote:

 

My doctor put me on the herb Myominbecause it is supposed to decrease the estrogen as I have estrogen dominance.Well then I missed a period, and I amnot pregnant.I wasn't sure what was going on but I suspected

it was the myomin.Then I looked up some old labs (2 yrs old), andmy most recent ones & I realized that I amonly estrogen dominant half the time. I am estrogendeficient the rest of the time.

Now I don't know a lot about a woman's hormonal surges,but from my research I found that 7 days before the periodestrogen increases to build tissue in the uterus.Could that then be my answer?That since I didn't get my period, the myomin decreased

my estrogen when I needed more of it, and thereforeI shouldn't take it the week before to allow theestrogen to increase?And then when does the estrogen decrease in a woman's cycle?Thank you - Ali

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I did not understand that.Are you saying that est. dom. can only be correctedwith bioidentical progest.?Thanks,AliOn Jan 18, 2010, at 9:35 AM, ido zahavi wrote:estrogen dominance must mostlt with bio identic progesteroneOn Mon, Jan 18, 2010 at 6:29 PM, A. <rubyrain11sbcglobal (DOT) net> wrote: My doctor put me on the herb Myominbecause it is supposed to decrease the estrogen as I have estrogen dominance.Well then I missed a period, and I amnot pregnant.I wasn't sure what was going on but I suspectedit was the myomin.Then I looked up some old labs (2 yrs old), andmy most recent ones & I realized that I amonly estrogen dominant half the time. I am estrogendeficient the rest of the time.Now I don't know a lot about a woman's hormonal surges,but from my research I found that 7 days before the periodestrogen increases to build tissue in the uterus.Could that then be my answer?That since I didn't get my period, the myomin decreasedmy estrogen when I needed more of it, and thereforeI shouldn't take it the week before to allow theestrogen to increase?And then when does the estrogen decrease in a woman's cycle?Thank you - Ali

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Hormones is a large subject, yet in watching Suzanne Sommers video I posted

one can see **incredible results from proper

ballance. She says in her book there are resources to find places that do

proper testing.

Bruce

----- Original Message -----

From: Alison Trotta-Marshall

I did not understand that.

Are you saying that est. dom. can only be corrected

with bioidentical progest.?

Thanks,

Ali

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The estrogen part of the cycle is the first part, up till ovulation. Then progesterone is supposed to dominate.AnneOn Jan 18, 2010, at 9:29 AM, A. wrote: My doctor put me on the herb Myomin because it is supposed to decrease the estrogen as I have estrogen dominance. Well then I missed a period, and I am not pregnant. I wasn't sure what was going on but I suspected it was the myomin. Then I looked up some old labs (2 yrs old), and my most recent ones & I realized that I am only estrogen dominant half the time. I am estrogen deficient the rest of the time. Now I don't know a lot about a woman's hormonal surges, but from my research I found that 7 days before the period estrogen increases to build tissue in the uterus. Could that then be my answer? That since I didn't get my period, the myomin decreased my estrogen when I needed more of it, and therefore I shouldn't take it the week before to allow the estrogen to increase? And then when does the estrogen decrease in a woman's cycle? Thank you - Ali

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I have wanted to take progesterone bioidentical

hormones for some time, but I can't find a doctor

that is in network of Blue Cross that prescribes it

in my area, east bay, SF.

I even asked the pharmacy and they wouldn't give

me a list of doctors who prescribe it.

Ali

On Jan 18, 2010, at 11:04 AM, Bruce wrote:

> Hormones is a large subject, yet in watching Suzanne Sommers video I

> posted

> one can see **incredible results from proper

> ballance. She says in her book there are resources to find places

> that do

> proper testing.

>

> Bruce

> ----- Original Message -----

> From: Alison Trotta-Marshall

>

> I did not understand that.

> Are you saying that est. dom. can only be corrected

> with bioidentical progest.?

> Thanks,

> Ali

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So when would I be lacking it the most?As a guesstimate...AliOn Jan 18, 2010, at 11:45 AM, Anne Seals wrote:The estrogen part of the cycle is the first part, up till ovulation. Then progesterone is supposed to dominate.AnneOn Jan 18, 2010, at 9:29 AM, A. wrote: My doctor put me on the herb Myominbecause it is supposed to decrease the estrogen as I have estrogen dominance.Well then I missed a period, and I amnot pregnant.I wasn't sure what was going on but I suspectedit was the myomin.Then I looked up some old labs (2 yrs old), andmy most recent ones & I realized that I amonly estrogen dominant half the time. I am estrogendeficient the rest of the time.Now I don't know a lot about a woman's hormonal surges,but from my research I found that 7 days before the periodestrogen increases to build tissue in the uterus.Could that then be my answer?That since I didn't get my period, the myomin decreasedmy estrogen when I needed more of it, and thereforeI shouldn't take it the week before to allow theestrogen to increase?And then when does the estrogen decrease in a woman's cycle?Thank you - Ali

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You need to look for a COMPOUNDING pharmacy, because they are the ones that sell the biodentical hormones. I bet they would direct you to doctors who prescribe them.AnneOn Jan 18, 2010, at 11:56 AM, Alison Trotta-Marshall wrote: I have wanted to take progesterone bioidentical hormones for some time, but I can't find a doctor that is in network of Blue Cross that prescribes it in my area, east bay, SF. I even asked the pharmacy and they wouldn't give me a list of doctors who prescribe it. Ali On Jan 18, 2010, at 11:04 AM, Bruce wrote: > Hormones is a large subject, yet in watching Suzanne Sommers video I > posted > one can see **incredible results from proper > ballance. She says in her book there are resources to find places > that do > proper testing. > > Bruce > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Alison Trotta-Marshall > > I did not understand that. > Are you saying that est. dom. can only be corrected > with bioidentical progest.? > Thanks, > Ali > > > > > ------------------------------------ > > > > >

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Yes, that is who I asked.But they would not give me the info.AliOn Jan 18, 2010, at 12:06 PM, Anne Seals wrote:You need to look for a COMPOUNDING pharmacy, because they are the ones that sell the biodentical hormones. I bet they would direct you to doctors who prescribe them.AnneOn Jan 18, 2010, at 11:56 AM, Alison Trotta-Marshall wrote: I have wanted to take progesterone bioidenticalhormones for some time, but I can't find a doctorthat is in network of Blue Cross that prescribes itin my area, east bay, SF.I even asked the pharmacy and they wouldn't giveme a list of doctors who prescribe it.AliOn Jan 18, 2010, at 11:04 AM, Bruce wrote:> Hormones is a large subject, yet in watching Suzanne Sommers video I > posted> one can see **incredible results from proper> ballance. She says in her book there are resources to find places > that do> proper testing.>> Bruce> ----- Original Message -----> From: Alison Trotta-Marshall>> I did not understand that.> Are you saying that est. dom. can only be corrected> with bioidentical progest.?> Thanks,> Ali>>>>> ------------------------------------>>>>>

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what about DIM for oestregen dominance?

My doctor put me on the herb Myominbecause it is supposed to decrease the estrogen as I have estrogen dominance.Well then I missed a period, and I amnot pregnant.I wasn't sure what was going on but I suspectedit was the myomin.Then I looked up some old labs (2 yrs old), andmy most recent ones & I realized that I amonly estrogen dominant half the time. I am estrogendeficient the rest of the time.Now I don't know a lot about a woman's hormonal surges,but from my research I found that 7 days before the periodestrogen increases to build tissue in the uterus.Could that then be my answer?That since I didn't get my period, the myomin decreasedmy estrogen when I needed more of it, and thereforeI shouldn't take it the week before to allow theestrogen to increase?And then when does the estrogen decrease in a woman's

cycle?Thank you - Ali

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dim is good but not enough when you have progestron shortage.all women above 35 and men above 40 have shortage of progesterone.you can read the book of dr lee and with over the counter natural progesterone cream treat yourself.sarati is a good brand

On Mon, Jan 18, 2010 at 9:30 PM, david kenna <davidjohnkenna@...> wrote:

 

what about DIM for oestregen dominance?

 

My doctor put me on the herb Myominbecause it is supposed to decrease the estrogen as I have estrogen dominance.Well then I missed a period, and I amnot pregnant.I wasn't sure what was going on but I suspected

it was the myomin.Then I looked up some old labs (2 yrs old), andmy most recent ones & I realized that I amonly estrogen dominant half the time. I am estrogendeficient the rest of the time.

Now I don't know a lot about a woman's hormonal surges,but from my research I found that 7 days before the periodestrogen increases to build tissue in the uterus.Could that then be my answer?That since I didn't get my period, the myomin decreased

my estrogen when I needed more of it, and thereforeI shouldn't take it the week before to allow theestrogen to increase?And then when does the estrogen decrease in a woman's cycle?Thank you - Ali

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more than remarkable Bruce. Nothing short of stunning,

For 61 she looks stunning like a 35 year old and has

energy like a 20 year old.

Great video thanks.

From: Bruce <bruce@...>Subject: Re: Myomin-Estrogen dominance, Periodiodine Date: Monday, 18 January, 2010, 19:04

Hormones is a large subject, yet in watching Suzanne Sommers video I posted one can see **incredible results from properballance. She says in her book there are resources to find places that do proper testing.Bruce----- Original Message ----- From: Alison Trotta-MarshallI did not understand that.Are you saying that est. dom. can only be correctedwith bioidentical progest.?Thanks,Ali------------------------------------

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gracia

Alison Trotta-Marshall wrote:

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> Yes, that is who I asked.

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> But they would not give me the info.

> Ali

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Well, you NEED progesterone from the date of ovulation till the first day of the next period, so if you are low, that is when you would be missing it most. Individual cycles vary, so if you haven't charted your cycle, & don't really know the date, you have to guess. In an "average" 28-day cycle, ovulation is generally thought to fall on day 14. However (there is always a however, isn't there?) if you are low in progesterone, the 2nd part of your cycle ( & therefore the whole cycle) tends to be artificially shortened. Progesterone is what extends your cycle long enough for a fertilized egg to implant. Many women who are low in progesterone have a "short luteal phase" which reduces their fertility, & they are often put on artificial progesterone to help them sustain a pregnancy. (If your uterus "flushes" too soon, it can wash a pregnancy out.) So if you are really low in progesterone, supplementing might actually lengthen your cycles. (Clearly I am not an expert in this. We had some fertility issues & I did a lot of reading, back in the day. But I developed a short luteal phase after using an over-the-counter cortisone cream for a rash. Not good when you are trying to get pregnant! But you should read up more.)If you have a sense -- say from "fertile mucous" -- when you ovulate, then I would think you would want to start supplementing at that point in your cycle.If you chart your temperature, the temperature should jump at ovulation, & you could use that is the signal to supplement.Recommendations among the progesterone cream manufacturers differ somewhat, but during the fertile years, they recommend supplementing from day 14 (or ovulation) till the next cycle starts. During the perimenopause, they recommend supplementing from day 7 till the next cycle starts. (The first day of bleeding is day one of the new cycle.)As for being "estrogen deficient" part of the time -- your estrogen is SUPPOSED to be low for the second half of your cycle, so that is not really a big problem. Estrogen is supposed to dominate till ovulation, & progesterone is supposed to dominate after ovulation. (At least that is my understanding. But I encourage you to read up more.)AnneOn Jan 18, 2010, at 11:58 AM, Alison Trotta-Marshall wrote: So when would I be lacking it the most?As a guesstimate...AliOn Jan 18, 2010, at 11:45 AM, Anne Seals wrote:The estrogen part of the cycle is the first part, up till ovulation. Then progesterone is supposed to dominate.AnneOn Jan 18, 2010, at 9:29 AM, A. wrote: My doctor put me on the herb Myominbecause it is supposed to decrease the estrogen as I have estrogen dominance.Well then I missed a period, and I amnot pregnant.I wasn't sure what was going on but I suspectedit was the myomin.Then I looked up some old labs (2 yrs old), andmy most recent ones & I realized that I amonly estrogen dominant half the time. I am estrogendeficient the rest of the time.Now I don't know a lot about a woman's hormonal surges,but from my research I found that 7 days before the periodestrogen increases to build tissue in the uterus.Could that then be my answer?That since I didn't get my period, the myomin decreasedmy estrogen when I needed more of it, and thereforeI shouldn't take it the week before to allow theestrogen to increase?And then when does the estrogen decrease in a woman's cycle?Thank you - Ali

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Thank you.

-Ali

On Jan 18, 2010, at 12:38 PM, Gracia wrote:

> http://www.womensinternational.com

> gracia

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> Alison Trotta-Marshall wrote:

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>> Yes, that is who I asked.

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>> But they would not give me the info.

>> Ali

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Thank you for all of that info.I did some reading and it said that the estrogen increasestarted seven days before your period.So if I took the Myomin and my estrogen decreasedwell then my only guess is that I should stop the myomin 7 days before to allow the estrogen to increase.And then I guess experiment on when to start it up again.It did prolong my ovulation daysThat is the only sense I can make of all of this.AliOn Jan 18, 2010, at 1:31 PM, Anne Seals wrote:Well, you NEED progesterone from the date of ovulation till the first day of the next period, so if you are low, that is when you would be missing it most. Individual cycles vary, so if you haven't charted your cycle, & don't really know the date, you have to guess. In an "average" 28-day cycle, ovulation is generally thought to fall on day 14. However (there is always a however, isn't there?) if you are low in progesterone, the 2nd part of your cycle ( & therefore the whole cycle) tends to be artificially shortened. Progesterone is what extends your cycle long enough for a fertilized egg to implant. Many women who are low in progesterone have a "short luteal phase" which reduces their fertility, & they are often put on artificial progesterone to help them sustain a pregnancy. (If your uterus "flushes" too soon, it can wash a pregnancy out.) So if you are really low in progesterone, supplementing might actually lengthen your cycles. (Clearly I am not an expert in this. We had some fertility issues & I did a lot of reading, back in the day. But I developed a short luteal phase after using an over-the-counter cortisone cream for a rash. Not good when you are trying to get pregnant! But you should read up more.)If you have a sense -- say from "fertile mucous" -- when you ovulate, then I would think you would want to start supplementing at that point in your cycle.If you chart your temperature, the temperature should jump at ovulation, & you could use that is the signal to supplement.Recommendations among the progesterone cream manufacturers differ somewhat, but during the fertile years, they recommend supplementing from day 14 (or ovulation) till the next cycle starts. During the perimenopause, they recommend supplementing from day 7 till the next cycle starts. (The first day of bleeding is day one of the new cycle.)As for being "estrogen deficient" part of the time -- your estrogen is SUPPOS! ED to be low for the second half of your cycle, so that is not really a big problem. Estrogen is supposed to dominate till ovulation, & progesterone is supposed to dominate after ovulation. (At least that is my understanding. But I encourage you to read up more.)AnneOn Jan 18, 2010, at 11:58 AM, Alison Trotta-Marshall wrote: So when would I be lacking it the most?As a guesstimate...AliOn Jan 18, 2010, at 11:45 AM, Anne Seals wrote:The estrogen part of the cycle is the first part, up till ovulation. Then progesterone is supposed to dominate.AnneOn Jan 18, 2010, at 9:29 AM, A. wrote: My doctor put me on the herb Myominbecause it is supposed to decrease the estrogen as I have estrogen dominance.Well then I missed a period, and I amnot pregnant.I wasn't sure what was going on but I suspectedit was the myomin.Then I looked up some old labs (2 yrs old), andmy most recent ones & I realized that I amonly estrogen dominant half the time. I am! estroge ndeficient the rest of the time.Now I don't know a lot about a woman's hormonal surges,but from my research I found that 7 days before the periodestrogen increases to build tissue in the uterus.Could that then be my answer?That since I didn't get my period, the myomin decreasedmy estrogen when I needed more of it, and thereforeI shouldn't take it the week before to allow theestrogen to increase?And then when does the estrogen decrease in a woman's cycle?Thank you - Ali

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Oh yeah ! I literally stumbled across a

reference to DIM while reading up on Glutathione.

I've been researching stuff in reference to my

cataracts since my vision fluctuates throughout

the day, and my vision is really bad during the

high estrogen phase of my cycle. And I believe

it's because of hormones. Since it's derived from

broccoli, kale, and such,I wanted to know if that

was the phytochemical in broccoli and other

veggies, that blocks thyroid hormones. And it's

looking like it's not the ones that do it. I may

get some and try it to see what happens. I read

some about it last night, and I'll do some more

research on it before I try it though.

Bethann

Insanity: doing the same thing over and over again

and expecting different results.

Albert Einstein

david kenna wrote:

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>

> what about DIM for oestregen dominance?

>

>

>

>>

>>

>> My doctor put me on the herb Myomin

>> because it is supposed to decrease the

>> estrogen as I have estrogen dominance.

>>

>> Well then I missed a period, and I am

>> not pregnant.

>> I wasn't sure what was going on but I suspected

>> it was the myomin.

>>

>> Then I looked up some old labs (2 yrs old), and

>> my most recent ones & I realized that I am

>> only estrogen dominant half the time. I am estrogen

>> deficient the rest of the time.

>>

>> Now I don't know a lot about a woman's hormonal surges,

>> but from my research I found that 7 days before the period

>> estrogen increases to build tissue in the uterus.

>>

>> Could that then be my answer?

>> That since I didn't get my period, the myomin decreased

>> my estrogen when I needed more of it, and therefore

>> I shouldn't take it the week before to allow the

>> estrogen to increase?

>> And then when does the estrogen decrease in a woman's cycle?

>> Thank you - Ali

>>

>>

>>

>

>

>

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Bethann,

Here is a link to an amazing site,

Really wide yet in depth coverage of all manner of health issues

including Thyroid isssues.

Just up your street.

I think you will like it.

http://www.holistichealthtopics.com/HMG/Bvitamin.html

>>>> >> My doctor put me on the herb Myomin>> because it is supposed to decrease the >> estrogen as I have estrogen dominance.>>>> Well then I missed a period, and I am>> not pregnant.>> I wasn't sure what was going on but I suspected>> it was the myomin.>>>> Then I looked up some old labs (2 yrs old), and>> my most recent ones & I realized that I am>> only estrogen dominant half the time. I am estrogen>> deficient the rest of the time.>>>> Now I don't know a lot about a woman's hormonal surges,>> but from my research I found that 7 days before the period>> estrogen increases to build tissue in the uterus.>>>> Could that then be my answer?>> That since I didn't get my period, the myomin decreased>> my estrogen when I

needed more of it, and therefore>> I shouldn't take it the week before to allow the>> estrogen to increase?>> And then when does the estrogen decrease in a woman's cycle?>> Thank you - Ali>>>>>>> > >

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Hi

Oooh, shiny. Thank you:)

Bethann

Insanity: doing the same thing over and over again

and expecting different results.

Albert Einstein

david kenna wrote:

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> Bethann,

> Here is a link to an amazing site,

> Really wide yet in depth coverage of all manner of health issues

> including Thyroid isssues.

> Just up your street.

> I think you will like it.

> http://www.holistic healthtopics. com/HMG/Bvitamin .html

> <http://www.holistichealthtopics.com/HMG/Bvitamin.html>

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> >> My doctor put me on the herb Myomin

> >> because it is supposed to decrease the

> >> estrogen as I have estrogen dominance.

> >>

> >> Well then I missed a period, and I am

> >> not pregnant.

> >> I wasn't sure what was going on but I suspected

> >> it was the myomin.

> >>

> >> Then I looked up some old labs (2 yrs old), and

> >> my most recent ones & I realized that I am

> >> only estrogen dominant half the time. I am estrogen

> >> deficient the rest of the time.

> >>

> >> Now I don't know a lot about a woman's hormonal surges,

> >> but from my research I found that 7 days before the period

> >> estrogen increases to build tissue in the uterus.

> >>

> >> Could that then be my answer?

> >> That since I didn't get my period, the myomin decreased

> >> my estrogen when I needed more of it, and therefore

> >> I shouldn't take it the week before to allow the

> >> estrogen to increase?

> >> And then when does the estrogen decrease in a woman's cycle?

> >> Thank you - Ali

> >>

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