Terrible Detox Experience?

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On 10/11/10, Deb Mauger <debmauger@...> wrote:

> I recently joined this list and the NTH, as well. This is my first

> post, but I have been reading voraciously....haven't quite taken it all

> in-but am doing my best.

>

> A bit of background: I was diagnosed hypothyroid about 11 years ago,

> right after my last baby was born, and about the time I was diagnosed

> with pregnancy onset psoriatic arthritis. In the last decade my health

> has steadily deteriorated. I have been on levothroxine for the whole

> time. My hypothyroid symptoms were continuing to get worse instead of

> better.

>

> Well, I came across the Stop The Thyroid Madness website and got excited

> about using iodine and dessicated thyroid to treat my worsening symptoms

> and my husband went and spoke to our local compounding pharmacist. He

> was right on board with the iodine, but kind of hemmed and hawed at the

> necessity of the companion nutrients, esp selenium. He also said he

> like armour dessicated thyroid and that is what he has. I will have to

> find a doctor willing to prescribe it in my small town, but first need

> to address my adrenal issues. I was told by a

> chiropractor/kenesiologist that my adrenal glands were shot when I was

> 25.....I turn 50 this month!

>

> Hal, our pharmacist sent my DH home with an iodine supplement (Biotics

> Research Corporation brand) with the suggestion that I start taking one

> or two tablets a day. The bottle states:

>

> Per half tablet:

> Iodine 2.5 mg

> Iodide 3.75 mg

> Total 6.25 mg

>

> I started out taking:

>

> 1Iodine tablet in the am for a total of 12.5 mg

> 4 tablets Magnesium Oxide am & pm for a total of 1,066 mg

> the mag ox includes chelated zinc, total of 40 mg

> Vit C 1000 twice a day for a total of, 4,000 mg

> Super B complex 1 tablet am

> B-12 1 tablet am

> Vitamin E am & pm for a total 800 IU

>

> I could not find selenium until today, so was not taking that. These

> are just the things that I was taking in addition to the iodine. After

> a week or two I tried increasing the amount of iodine by another pill in

> the evening as 12.5 mg just didn't seem like that much and I was feeling

> a bit better. Within an hour or so I had a terrible headache, with

> allergy like symptoms....nasal congestion, sneezing, earache.....figured

> it might be a detox reaction and salt loaded and within a couple of

> hours the symptoms were gone. I realized that I had been having mild

> detox symptoms all along and they were just exacerbated by the increase

> or too large an increase at one time.

>

> So I went back to the smaller dose (12.5) and things continued to go

> well for another two weeks when I decided to up my dose incrementally by

> just adding a quarter of a tablet at night. Until Friday, when somehow

> I inadvertently took another whole tablet at night. I figured it out

> after I had what I believe was an incredibly bad detox experience.

>

> I had terrible insomnia before starting the iodine but after starting on

> it I had begun to have many nights where I was able to go to sleep and

> stay asleep all night. Friday night I went to bed feeling a bit weepy

> for no reason (not like me) and woke up at 2:30 with a terrible panic

> attack, and had to wake my husband up to talk me through it. I was

> feeling really negative feelings; hopeless, a failure, I just wanted to

> give up. (This is not common for me!) I tossed and turned until dawn

> when I woke up with a massive headache unlike anything I have ever

> felt. My entire body felt like I had been steamrollered. My sinuses

> were full and congested like I remembered them being the first time I

> realized I was detoxing, so I got up and salt loaded figuring that was

> what I needed.

>

> Went back to bed and within a half an hour I was in the bathroom with

> persistent vomiting and diarrhea. It lasted all day Saturday and

> Sunday. The severe headache lasted until this morning, it has gotten

> better as the day has gone by and I have been able to keep down fluids.

> I plan to salt load tomorrow and restart my iodine on Wednesday. I

> still feel weak. It was not food poisoning or the flu as no one else in

> my family of 6 kids nor my sweet husband have had any similar symptoms.

>

> It was rather an extreme experience and I want to run it by you all to

> see if anyone has experienced anything like it. Taking 25 mg of iodine

> seems like such a small amount to have such a bad reaction.

>

> I live in a small town in southern New Mexico and am still trying to

> find a doctor to go to and I know I need to get my labs run.

>

> Deb

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[Guest guest]

When I first took iodine (Iodoral tabs) I had severe detox too. I had gray

stains under my breasts, my breath stunk, had a headache & I was exhausted. Had

just taken 1 12.5mg tab. But I had SOOOOO much junk in the trunk and it all

tried to come out at once. So I talked to my integrative dr & he told me to

start 1/2 tab 1 time per week & build up slowly. I built up to 50mg in about 6

mths & continue that cycle. I took this dose for 1 year and took a 6 mth break.

Now taking 12.5 per day for 6mths & off for 3mths.

If you swim or drink chlorine, eat UN FERMENTED soy, have high mercury, bromide

or lead levels you're going to detox. Go slow. When you experience detox

symptoms, listen to your body & slow down. You'll get there eventually.

FAR infra red saunas, hot baths with Epsom salt (but not in chlorinated water)

will help detox the fat cells through the skin and speed up the process without

detox symptoms.

It has been 5 years since I started & I have no problem taking higher doses if I

feel I need it. I feel much better now too & hope you will soon too.

> > I recently joined this list and the NTH, as well. This is my first

> > post, but I have been reading voraciously....haven't quite taken it all

> > in-but am doing my best.

> >

> > A bit of background: I was diagnosed hypothyroid about 11 years ago,

> > right after my last baby was born, and about the time I was diagnosed

> > with pregnancy onset psoriatic arthritis. In the last decade my health

> > has steadily deteriorated. I have been on levothroxine for the whole

> > time. My hypothyroid symptoms were continuing to get worse instead of

> > better.

> >

> > Well, I came across the Stop The Thyroid Madness website and got excited

> > about using iodine and dessicated thyroid to treat my worsening symptoms

> > and my husband went and spoke to our local compounding pharmacist. He

> > was right on board with the iodine, but kind of hemmed and hawed at the

> > necessity of the companion nutrients, esp selenium. He also said he

> > like armour dessicated thyroid and that is what he has. I will have to

> > find a doctor willing to prescribe it in my small town, but first need

> > to address my adrenal issues. I was told by a

> > chiropractor/kenesiologist that my adrenal glands were shot when I was

> > 25.....I turn 50 this month!

> >

> > Hal, our pharmacist sent my DH home with an iodine supplement (Biotics

> > Research Corporation brand) with the suggestion that I start taking one

> > or two tablets a day. The bottle states:

> >

> > Per half tablet:

> > Iodine 2.5 mg

> > Iodide 3.75 mg

> > Total 6.25 mg

> >

> > I started out taking:

> >

> > 1Iodine tablet in the am for a total of 12.5 mg

> > 4 tablets Magnesium Oxide am & pm for a total of 1,066 mg

> > the mag ox includes chelated zinc, total of 40 mg

> > Vit C 1000 twice a day for a total of, 4,000 mg

> > Super B complex 1 tablet am

> > B-12 1 tablet am

> > Vitamin E am & pm for a total 800 IU

> >

> > I could not find selenium until today, so was not taking that. These

> > are just the things that I was taking in addition to the iodine. After

> > a week or two I tried increasing the amount of iodine by another pill in

> > the evening as 12.5 mg just didn't seem like that much and I was feeling

> > a bit better. Within an hour or so I had a terrible headache, with

> > allergy like symptoms....nasal congestion, sneezing, earache.....figured

> > it might be a detox reaction and salt loaded and within a couple of

> > hours the symptoms were gone. I realized that I had been having mild

> > detox symptoms all along and they were just exacerbated by the increase

> > or too large an increase at one time.

> >

> > So I went back to the smaller dose (12.5) and things continued to go

> > well for another two weeks when I decided to up my dose incrementally by

> > just adding a quarter of a tablet at night. Until Friday, when somehow

> > I inadvertently took another whole tablet at night. I figured it out

> > after I had what I believe was an incredibly bad detox experience.

> >

> > I had terrible insomnia before starting the iodine but after starting on

> > it I had begun to have many nights where I was able to go to sleep and

> > stay asleep all night. Friday night I went to bed feeling a bit weepy

> > for no reason (not like me) and woke up at 2:30 with a terrible panic

> > attack, and had to wake my husband up to talk me through it. I was

> > feeling really negative feelings; hopeless, a failure, I just wanted to

> > give up. (This is not common for me!) I tossed and turned until dawn

> > when I woke up with a massive headache unlike anything I have ever

> > felt. My entire body felt like I had been steamrollered. My sinuses

> > were full and congested like I remembered them being the first time I

> > realized I was detoxing, so I got up and salt loaded figuring that was

> > what I needed.

> >

> > Went back to bed and within a half an hour I was in the bathroom with

> > persistent vomiting and diarrhea. It lasted all day Saturday and

> > Sunday. The severe headache lasted until this morning, it has gotten

> > better as the day has gone by and I have been able to keep down fluids.

> > I plan to salt load tomorrow and restart my iodine on Wednesday. I

> > still feel weak. It was not food poisoning or the flu as no one else in

> > my family of 6 kids nor my sweet husband have had any similar symptoms.

> >

> > It was rather an extreme experience and I want to run it by you all to

> > see if anyone has experienced anything like it. Taking 25 mg of iodine

> > seems like such a small amount to have such a bad reaction.

> >

> > I live in a small town in southern New Mexico and am still trying to

> > find a doctor to go to and I know I need to get my labs run.

> >

> > Deb

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[Guest guest]

Jill, This is great advice and thank you so much for updating with the

group. It's so important for people to hear from longtime iodine folks.

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>When I first took iodine (Iodoral tabs) I had severe detox too. I had gray

>stains under my breasts, my breath stunk, had a headache & I was

>exhausted. Had just taken 1 12.5mg tab. But I had SOOOOO much junk in the

>trunk and it all tried to come out at once. So I talked to my integrative

>dr & he told me to start 1/2 tab 1 time per week & build up slowly. I

>built up to 50mg in about 6 mths & continue that cycle. I took this dose

>for 1 year and took a 6 mth break. Now taking 12.5 per day for 6mths & off

>for 3mths.

>If you swim or drink chlorine, eat UN FERMENTED soy, have high mercury,

>bromide or lead levels you're going to detox. Go slow. When you experience

>detox symptoms, listen to your body & slow down. You'll get there eventually.

>FAR infra red saunas, hot baths with Epsom salt (but not in chlorinated

>water) will help detox the fat cells through the skin and speed up the

>process without detox symptoms.

>It has been 5 years since I started & I have no problem taking higher

>doses if I feel I need it. I feel much better now too & hope you will soon too.

~~~ There is no way to peace; peace is the way ~~~~

--A.J. Muste

[Guest guest]

Hi ,

We are not dealing with mere chlorine now, but Chloramine (it sounds like

something you would give a person to kill them!). If there is anything that

anyone knows of to take Chloramine out of bath water, sure would appreciate

hearing about it. I'm not exposed to that deadly sounding, toxic brew of

chlorine and ammonia but I have some people I care about. Actually, know of

a lot of people! And what about those poor people locked in 'rest homes'?

They have no choice!

I remember seeing poison fluids (from chemical plants), being rushed by a

battery of ultraviolet lights and they then declared the fluid safe to

drink. I would like to see them drink it first.

If ultraviolet lights are so great, then why not use this to clean our

water?

Just try finding toothpaste without fluoride! I swish hydrogen peroxide

then wet my brush and use baking soda/strontium/Celtic sea salt to put on my

brush. No fluoride for me!

Jean

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> From: Baker <vbaker@...>

> Reply-<iodine >

> Date: Wed, 03 Nov 2010 20:32:48 -0500

> <iodine >

> Subject: Re: Re: Terrible Detox Experience?

>

> here's some options:

> http://www.bing.com/search?q=bath+ball+faucet+filter & form=OPRTSD & pc=OPER

>

> --V

>

>

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[Guest guest]

Here is an example of one of the bath ball faucet filters that says it

filters chlorine, chloramines, and chlorine gas. Along with VOCs and more.

http://www.amazon.com/Crystal-Quest-Filter-Advanced-Market/dp/B001P2PW2I/ref=pd_\

cp_hi_1

This is the one I own.

I don't think these bath balls are the most perfect solution, but they are

much more affordable than a lot of other options, and doing SOMETHING to

reduce your exposures is better than NOTHING.

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At 12:32 AM 11/4/2010, you wrote:

>Hi ,

>

>We are not dealing with mere chlorine now, but Chloramine (it sounds like

>something you would give a person to kill them!). If there is anything that

>anyone knows of to take Chloramine out of bath water, sure would appreciate

>hearing about it. I'm not exposed to that deadly sounding, toxic brew of

>chlorine and ammonia but I have some people I care about. Actually, know of

>a lot of people! And what about those poor people locked in 'rest homes'?

>They have no choice!

>

>I remember seeing poison fluids (from chemical plants), being rushed by a

>battery of ultraviolet lights and they then declared the fluid safe to

>drink. I would like to see them drink it first.

>

>If ultraviolet lights are so great, then why not use this to clean our

>water?

>

>Just try finding toothpaste without fluoride! I swish hydrogen peroxide

>then wet my brush and use baking soda/strontium/Celtic sea salt to put on my

>brush. No fluoride for me!

>

>Jean

>

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> > From: Baker <vbaker@...>

> > Reply-<iodine >

> > Date: Wed, 03 Nov 2010 20:32:48 -0500

> > <iodine >

> > Subject: Re: Re: Terrible Detox Experience?

> >

> > here's some options:

> > http://www.bing.com/search?q=bath+ball+faucet+filter & form=OPRTSD & pc=OPER

> >

> > --V

> >

> >

> >>

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