Re: want to start iodoral

[Guest guest]

Hi , can you please explain to me what you mean by: "sodium pottasium levels and relationship to thyroid", I know Gerson uses this ratio as well, for overal health, but didn't know about it's relationship to thryoid. thanks!

Konstantine

From: hardrockshoney <sandralhowie@...>iodine Sent: Thu, October 14, 2010 7:41:44 AMSubject: want to start iodoral

I have mostly been on thyroidless and have come a long way since last February but know I have that far to go again and want to start iodoral that I recently bought after it has been suggested a number of times by Gracia Bee on thyroidless group.I'm 46,thyroidless papillary cancer in 1994 spread to 5 lymph removed also. Last 5 years of my life were hell from the effects of synthetic thyroid hormone. Started NTH in February this year and then hydrocortisone soon after but had to address 2 infected teeth which were removed in Sept. I'm starting to feel better but still can't get HC lowered below 40. I work full time and am not a rester, when I feel better I get doing things, not sure if that is hurting me but I feel for once like I have a quality of life back.I have been on whole foods as much organic as possible 95% gluten, sugar, dairy and yeast free for the last 4 years while I was trying to figure out what was wrong and saw a slew of

naturopaths who never mentioned synthetic thyroid hormone.My supp's are 1/2 tsp sea salt am and pm400-500mg magnesium citratezinc, selenium (not too much selenium as I had gone too high on my NTH and had to reduce due to racing heart and palps)4000 mg vit ctwo tabs? calcium citratemilk thistle on and off (I know my liver is compromised from my face skin tone in the am on days I ate incorrectly the day before and I have never been a drinker)Vit D3 5-10,000 per day blue bonnet chelated iron 3 tabs every other day as I get constipated from it (ferritin was 67)I don't have doc's appt until Dec and he does not believe in ferritin, body temps, sodium pottasium levels and relationship to thyroid but he gives me prescrips freely so far so I'm pretty much self treating.So do I need to do the load test or can I get started and how much? I wonder if you can go slow as I don't want to stress my

adrenals with too much detoxing if that makes sense.Thanks for all your wonderful input.

[Guest guest]

Hi ,

The adrenal group indicates that low sodium and pottasium can affect adrenals

and if adrenals are not good then will affect optimizing on NTH.

>

> Hi , can you please explain to me what you mean by: " sodium pottasium

> levels and relationship to thyroid " , I know Gerson uses this ratio as well,

for

> overal health, but didn't know about it's relationship to thryoid. thanks!

> Konstantine

>

>

>

>

> ________________________________

> From: hardrockshoney <sandralhowie@...>

> iodine

> Sent: Thu, October 14, 2010 7:41:44 AM

> Subject: want to start iodoral

>

>  

> I have mostly been on thyroidless and have come a long way since last February

> but know I have that far to go again and want to start iodoral that I recently

> bought after it has been suggested a number of times by Gracia Bee on

> thyroidless group.

> I'm 46,thyroidless papillary cancer in 1994 spread to 5 lymph removed also.

Last

> 5 years of my life were hell from the effects of synthetic thyroid hormone.

>

> Started NTH in February this year and then hydrocortisone soon after but had

to

> address 2 infected teeth which were removed in Sept. I'm starting to feel

better

> but still can't get HC lowered below 40. I work full time and am not a rester,

> when I feel better I get doing things, not sure if that is hurting me but I

feel

> for once like I have a quality of life back.

> I have been on whole foods as much organic as possible 95% gluten, sugar,

dairy

> and yeast free for the last 4 years while I was trying to figure out what was

> wrong and saw a slew of naturopaths who never mentioned synthetic thyroid

> hormone.

>

> My supp's are

> 1/2 tsp sea salt am and pm

> 400-500mg magnesium citrate

> zinc, selenium (not too much selenium as I had gone too high on my NTH and had

> to reduce due to racing heart and palps)

> 4000 mg vit c

> two tabs? calcium citrate

> milk thistle on and off (I know my liver is compromised from my face

> skin tone in the am on days I ate incorrectly the day before and I have never

> been a drinker)

> Vit D3 5-10,000 per day

> blue bonnet chelated iron 3 tabs every other day as I get constipated from it

> (ferritin was 67)

>

>

> I don't have doc's appt until Dec and he does not believe in ferritin, body

> temps, sodium pottasium levels and relationship to thyroid but he gives me

> prescrips freely so far so I'm pretty much self treating.

>

> So do I need to do the load test or can I get started and how much? I wonder

if

> you can go slow as I don't want to stress my adrenals with too much detoxing

if

> that makes sense.

>

> Thanks for all your wonderful input.

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

I just need to add that my HC has been every 2 hours (stress dosed a a couple of

months back and couldn't get it back down or spread out probably due the tooth

infections) and I am working on spreading it out but couldn't until I got my NTH

back down to to 4.5 grains from a way too high 6.5 grains. It's been a week now

on 4.5 grains and so I will see how that goes. I didn't know if I should wait

until I'm on sure I'm on the right level of thyroid before trying to add iodine

into the mix. That is why I don't want to stress my adrenals any further and I

definitely don't want to go over 40HC.

Thanks again.

>

> I have mostly been on thyroidless and have come a long way since last February

but know I have that far to go again and want to start iodoral that I recently

bought after it has been suggested a number of times by Gracia Bee on

thyroidless group.

> I'm 46,thyroidless papillary cancer in 1994 spread to 5 lymph removed also.

Last 5 years of my life were hell from the effects of synthetic thyroid hormone.

> Started NTH in February this year and then hydrocortisone soon after but had

to address 2 infected teeth which were removed in Sept. I'm starting to feel

better but still can't get HC lowered below 40. I work full time and am not a

rester, when I feel better I get doing things, not sure if that is hurting me

but I feel for once like I have a quality of life back.

> I have been on whole foods as much organic as possible 95% gluten, sugar,

dairy and yeast free for the last 4 years while I was trying to figure out what

was wrong and saw a slew of naturopaths who never mentioned synthetic thyroid

hormone.

>

> My supp's are

> 1/2 tsp sea salt am and pm

> 400-500mg magnesium citrate

> zinc, selenium (not too much selenium as I had gone too high on my NTH and had

to reduce due to racing heart and palps)

> 4000 mg vit c

> two tabs? calcium citrate

> milk thistle on and off (I know my liver is compromised from my face

> skin tone in the am on days I ate incorrectly the day before and I have never

been a drinker)

> Vit D3 5-10,000 per day

> blue bonnet chelated iron 3 tabs every other day as I get constipated from it

(ferritin was 67)

>

>

> I don't have doc's appt until Dec and he does not believe in ferritin, body

temps, sodium pottasium levels and relationship to thyroid but he gives me

prescrips freely so far so I'm pretty much self treating.

>

> So do I need to do the load test or can I get started and how much? I wonder

if you can go slow as I don't want to stress my adrenals with too much detoxing

if that makes sense.

>

> Thanks for all your wonderful input.

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

I'm feeling a little left out, I have asked how to get started twice and no one

has replied, is there something I'm missing?

Thanks

>

> I have mostly been on thyroidless and have come a long way since last February

but know I have that far to go again and want to start iodoral that I recently

bought after it has been suggested a number of times by Gracia Bee on

thyroidless group.

> I'm 46,thyroidless papillary cancer in 1994 spread to 5 lymph removed also.

Last 5 years of my life were hell from the effects of synthetic thyroid hormone.

> Started NTH in February this year and then hydrocortisone soon after but had

to address 2 infected teeth which were removed in Sept. I'm starting to feel

better but still can't get HC lowered below 40. I work full time and am not a

rester, when I feel better I get doing things, not sure if that is hurting me

but I feel for once like I have a quality of life back.

> I have been on whole foods as much organic as possible 95% gluten, sugar,

dairy and yeast free for the last 4 years while I was trying to figure out what

was wrong and saw a slew of naturopaths who never mentioned synthetic thyroid

hormone.

>

> My supp's are

> 1/2 tsp sea salt am and pm

> 400-500mg magnesium citrate

> zinc, selenium (not too much selenium as I had gone too high on my NTH and had

to reduce due to racing heart and palps)

> 4000 mg vit c

> two tabs? calcium citrate

> milk thistle on and off (I know my liver is compromised from my face

> skin tone in the am on days I ate incorrectly the day before and I have never

been a drinker)

> Vit D3 5-10,000 per day

> blue bonnet chelated iron 3 tabs every other day as I get constipated from it

(ferritin was 67)

>

>

> I don't have doc's appt until Dec and he does not believe in ferritin, body

temps, sodium pottasium levels and relationship to thyroid but he gives me

prescrips freely so far so I'm pretty much self treating.

>

> So do I need to do the load test or can I get started and how much? I wonder

if you can go slow as I don't want to stress my adrenals with too much detoxing

if that makes sense.

>

> Thanks for all your wonderful input.

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

,I started with 1 tab for a few days then added half tab at a time until I have reached 50mg as my daily intake amount of Iodoral.Also, you need to go to our group's home page and read all of the info there. group mom, has put a lot of info blood sweat and tears into this group and we are encouraged to read the step by step she has all layed out for us. Also, when you have time, go through some of the old e-mails and read. I have belonged here for a year now and it drives me nuts to read the same questions being asked that were asked 2 days ago. That is why all of our conversations can be read at our group's web site.Welcome . There are people here that know a lot more of all of this that I but I have learned a lot just by reading what is at our group's

site. from IllinoisFrom: hardrockshoney <sandralhowie@...>iodine Sent: Fri, October 15, 2010 6:33:23 AMSubject: Re: want to start iodoral

I'm feeling a little left out, I have asked how to get started twice and no one has replied, is there something I'm missing?

Thanks

>

> I have mostly been on thyroidless and have come a long way since last February but know I have that far to go again and want to start iodoral that I recently bought after it has been suggested a number of times by Gracia Bee on thyroidless group.

> I'm 46,thyroidless papillary cancer in 1994 spread to 5 lymph removed also. Last 5 years of my life were hell from the effects of synthetic thyroid hormone.

> Started NTH in February this year and then hydrocortisone soon after but had to address 2 infected teeth which were removed in Sept. I'm starting to feel better but still can't get HC lowered below 40. I work full time and am not a rester, when I feel better I get doing things, not sure if that is hurting me but I feel for once like I have a quality of life back.

> I have been on whole foods as much organic as possible 95% gluten, sugar, dairy and yeast free for the last 4 years while I was trying to figure out what was wrong and saw a slew of naturopaths who never mentioned synthetic thyroid hormone.

>

> My supp's are

> 1/2 tsp sea salt am and pm

> 400-500mg magnesium citrate

> zinc, selenium (not too much selenium as I had gone too high on my NTH and had to reduce due to racing heart and palps)

> 4000 mg vit c

> two tabs? calcium citrate

> milk thistle on and off (I know my liver is compromised from my face

> skin tone in the am on days I ate incorrectly the day before and I have never been a drinker)

> Vit D3 5-10,000 per day

> blue bonnet chelated iron 3 tabs every other day as I get constipated from it (ferritin was 67)

>

>

> I don't have doc's appt until Dec and he does not believe in ferritin, body temps, sodium pottasium levels and relationship to thyroid but he gives me prescrips freely so far so I'm pretty much self treating.

>

> So do I need to do the load test or can I get started and how much? I wonder if you can go slow as I don't want to stress my adrenals with too much detoxing if that makes sense.

>

> Thanks for all your wonderful input.

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Sorry !

You are 9/10th of the way there already! Have you

read the new member documents? That is a great place to start!

That said, you don’t need to do tests first. Many of us on

this loop have never done iodine loading tests.

And based on your supplements, you just need to add iodine I

think! The list of supporting nutrients is in the new member documents, I keep

a copy of that file on my computer for quick reference.

1.

Supporting Nutrients for taking Iodine  -

a. Vit

C – 2,000 – 5,000 mgs / day

b. Selenium

– 200 – 400 mcg / day

c. Unrefined

salt (Celtic) – ½ tsp / day

d. Magnesium

– 400 mgs / day

e. Optional

– ATP CoFactors -1 tablet 2x / day

As for how much, you have to see how you feel. Some start at

12.5mg, some higher. Your current supplements are already supporting your

adrenals. If you have a concern about your liver, I would try the milk thistle

regularly, and maybe add something else if you are seeing heavy detox symptoms.

Remember the goal is to detox, but if your pathways are working well, you won’t

necessarily have the symptoms. That means your body is dumping it fast before

reabsorbing the toxins.

Jump right in! Since you have had cancer, I think the general

recommendation would be get to 50 mg and beyond to really help your body.

And thank you for being so sweet in your third request! J

sometimes we are all skimming or just not able to get connected for a couple of

days. I just spent a week in the hospital helping my mom, and had days when I

couldn’t be online.

Donna in IL

From:

iodine [mailto:iodine ] On Behalf Of hardrockshoney

Sent: Friday, October 15, 2010 6:33 AM

iodine

Subject: Re: want to start iodoral

I'm feeling a little left out, I have asked how

to get started twice and no one has replied, is there something I'm missing?

Thanks

>

> I have mostly been on thyroidless and have come a long way since last

February but know I have that far to go again and want to start iodoral that I

recently bought after it has been suggested a number of times by Gracia Bee on

thyroidless group.

> I'm 46,thyroidless papillary cancer in 1994 spread to 5 lymph removed

also. Last 5 years of my life were hell from the effects of synthetic thyroid

hormone.

> Started NTH in February this year and then hydrocortisone soon after but

had to address 2 infected teeth which were removed in Sept. I'm starting to

feel better but still can't get HC lowered below 40. I work full time and am

not a rester, when I feel better I get doing things, not sure if that is

hurting me but I feel for once like I have a quality of life back.

> I have been on whole foods as much organic as possible 95% gluten, sugar,

dairy and yeast free for the last 4 years while I was trying to figure out what

was wrong and saw a slew of naturopaths who never mentioned synthetic thyroid

hormone.

>

> My supp's are

> 1/2 tsp sea salt am and pm

> 400-500mg magnesium citrate

> zinc, selenium (not too much selenium as I had gone too high on my NTH and

had to reduce due to racing heart and palps)

> 4000 mg vit c

> two tabs? calcium citrate

> milk thistle on and off (I know my liver is compromised from my face

> skin tone in the am on days I ate incorrectly the day before and I have

never been a drinker)

> Vit D3 5-10,000 per day

> blue bonnet chelated iron 3 tabs every other day as I get constipated from

it (ferritin was 67)

>

>

> I don't have doc's appt until Dec and he does not believe in ferritin,

body temps, sodium pottasium levels and relationship to thyroid but he gives me

prescrips freely so far so I'm pretty much self treating.

>

> So do I need to do the load test or can I get started and how much? I

wonder if you can go slow as I don't want to stress my adrenals with too much

detoxing if that makes sense.

>

> Thanks for all your wonderful input.

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Hey Donna,

A HUGE thank you to you. Yes I read what is under the links if that is where

they are. If not let me know. I am so excited to start iodine. I will take your

advise and start Milk thistle regularly,

any idea what else will support liver to take along with it?

I feel for you with your Mom and hope she has a speedy recovery. My mom who is

very unwell with thyroid issues just got out of the hospital from pneumonia. I

hope that my getting well will inspire her to try my path to healing instead of

listening to her doctors.

> >

> > I have mostly been on thyroidless and have come a long way since last

February but know I have that far to go again and want to start iodoral that I

recently bought after it has been suggested a number of times by Gracia Bee on

thyroidless group.

> > I'm 46,thyroidless papillary cancer in 1994 spread to 5 lymph removed also.

Last 5 years of my life were hell from the effects of synthetic thyroid hormone.

> > Started NTH in February this year and then hydrocortisone soon after but had

to address 2 infected teeth which were removed in Sept. I'm starting to feel

better but still can't get HC lowered below 40. I work full time and am not a

rester, when I feel better I get doing things, not sure if that is hurting me

but I feel for once like I have a quality of life back.

> > I have been on whole foods as much organic as possible 95% gluten, sugar,

dairy and yeast free for the last 4 years while I was trying to figure out what

was wrong and saw a slew of naturopaths who never mentioned synthetic thyroid

hormone.

> >

> > My supp's are

> > 1/2 tsp sea salt am and pm

> > 400-500mg magnesium citrate

> > zinc, selenium (not too much selenium as I had gone too high on my NTH and

had to reduce due to racing heart and palps)

> > 4000 mg vit c

> > two tabs? calcium citrate

> > milk thistle on and off (I know my liver is compromised from my face

> > skin tone in the am on days I ate incorrectly the day before and I have

never been a drinker)

> > Vit D3 5-10,000 per day

> > blue bonnet chelated iron 3 tabs every other day as I get constipated from

it (ferritin was 67)

> >

> >

> > I don't have doc's appt until Dec and he does not believe in ferritin, body

temps, sodium pottasium levels and relationship to thyroid but he gives me

prescrips freely so far so I'm pretty much self treating.

> >

> > So do I need to do the load test or can I get started and how much? I wonder

if you can go slow as I don't want to stress my adrenals with too much detoxing

if that makes sense.

> >

> > Thanks for all your wonderful input.

> >

> >

> >

>

> ________________________________

>

[Guest guest]

Hi and thank you

I have no problem reading so pardon my ignorance. By the groups homepage do you

mean reading under links, database etc if not then please direct me and I will

read away. Many times I just feel plain dumb when I'm trying to grasp it all and

so I do not wish to take the easy way out when has done all the hard

work, I just couldn't see the section where it says how to get started and read

on Breast cancer choices site that I needed to do a load test so wanted some

further clarification from y'all.

Thank you again for your help

> >

> > I have mostly been on thyroidless and have come a long way since last

February

> >but know I have that far to go again and want to start iodoral that I

recently

> >bought after it has been suggested a number of times by Gracia Bee on

> >thyroidless group.

> > I'm 46,thyroidless papillary cancer in 1994 spread to 5 lymph removed also.

> >Last 5 years of my life were hell from the effects of synthetic thyroid

hormone.

> >

> > Started NTH in February this year and then hydrocortisone soon after but had

to

> >address 2 infected teeth which were removed in Sept. I'm starting to feel

> >better but still can't get HC lowered below 40. I work full time and am not a

> >rester, when I feel better I get doing things, not sure if that is hurting me

> >but I feel for once like I have a quality of life back.

> > I have been on whole foods as much organic as possible 95% gluten, sugar,

dairy

> >and yeast free for the last 4 years while I was trying to figure out what was

> >wrong and saw a slew of naturopaths who never mentioned synthetic thyroid

> >hormone.

> >

> > My supp's are

> > 1/2 tsp sea salt am and pm

> > 400-500mg magnesium citrate

> > zinc, selenium (not too much selenium as I had gone too high on my NTH and

had

> >to reduce due to racing heart and palps)

> > 4000 mg vit c

> > two tabs? calcium citrate

> > milk thistle on and off (I know my liver is compromised from my face

> > skin tone in the am on days I ate incorrectly the day before and I have

never

> >been a drinker)

> > Vit D3 5-10,000 per day

> > blue bonnet chelated iron 3 tabs every other day as I get constipated from

it

> >(ferritin was 67)

> >

> >

> > I don't have doc's appt until Dec and he does not believe in ferritin, body

> >temps, sodium pottasium levels and relationship to thyroid but he gives me

> >prescrips freely so far so I'm pretty much self treating.

> >

> > So do I need to do the load test or can I get started and how much? I wonder

if

> >you can go slow as I don't want to stress my adrenals with too much detoxing

if

> >that makes sense.

> >

> > Thanks for all your wonderful input.

> >

> >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Dr. Brownstein formulated a product called TLC www.purezenhealth.com which is very good but pricey. You can also use dandelion root extract - 15 drops in water - 2x / day or adding lemon to your water will help as well.

Steph

Re: want to start iodoral

Hey Donna,A HUGE thank you to you. Yes I read what is under the links if that is where they are. If not let me know. I am so excited to start iodine. I will take your advise and start Milk thistle regularly, any idea what else will support liver to take along with it?I feel for you with your Mom and hope she has a speedy recovery. My mom who is very unwell with thyroid issues just got out of the hospital from pneumonia. I hope that my getting well will inspire her to try my path to healing instead of listening to her doctors.> >> > I have mostly been on thyroidless and have come a long way since last February but know I have that far to go again and want to start iodoral that I recently bought after it has been suggested a number of times by Gracia Bee on thyroidless group.> > I'm 46,thyroidless papillary cancer in 1994 spread to 5 lymph removed also. Last 5 years of my life were hell from the effects of synthetic thyroid hormone.> > Started NTH in February this year and then hydrocortisone soon after but had to address 2 infected teeth which were removed in Sept. I'm starting to feel better but still can't get HC lowered below 40. I work full time and am not a rester, when I feel better I get doing things, not sure if that is hurting me but I feel for once like I have a quality of life back.> > I have been on whole foods as much organic as possible 95% gluten, sugar, dairy and yeast free for the last 4 years while I was trying to figure out what was wrong and saw a slew of naturopaths who never mentioned synthetic thyroid hormone.> >> > My supp's are> > 1/2 tsp sea salt am and pm> > 400-500mg magnesium citrate> > zinc, selenium (not too much selenium as I had gone too high on my NTH and had to reduce due to racing heart and palps)> > 4000 mg vit c> > two tabs? calcium citrate> > milk thistle on and off (I know my liver is compromised from my face> > skin tone in the am on days I ate incorrectly the day before and I have never been a drinker)> > Vit D3 5-10,000 per day> > blue bonnet chelated iron 3 tabs every other day as I get constipated from it (ferritin was 67)> >> >> > I don't have doc's appt until Dec and he does not believe in ferritin, body temps, sodium pottasium levels and relationship to thyroid but he gives me prescrips freely so far so I'm pretty much self treating.> >> > So do I need to do the load test or can I get started and how much? I wonder if you can go slow as I don't want to stress my adrenals with too much detoxing if that makes sense.> >> > Thanks for all your wonderful input.> >> > > >> > ________________________________>

[Guest guest]

Hi Steph,

Oh that's right, I forgot about dandelion and lemon. Steph, my diet has always

been rotational (candida, leaky gut) as I don't want to develop any further

sensitivities, is it different for drops or can one develop a sensitivity to

that too if they don't rotate it?

> > >

> > > I have mostly been on thyroidless and have come a long way since last

February but know I have that far to go again and want to start iodoral that I

recently bought after it has been suggested a number of times by Gracia Bee on

thyroidless group.

> > > I'm 46,thyroidless papillary cancer in 1994 spread to 5 lymph removed

also. Last 5 years of my life were hell from the effects of synthetic thyroid

hormone.

> > > Started NTH in February this year and then hydrocortisone soon after but

had to address 2 infected teeth which were removed in Sept. I'm starting to feel

better but still can't get HC lowered below 40. I work full time and am not a

rester, when I feel better I get doing things, not sure if that is hurting me

but I feel for once like I have a quality of life back.

> > > I have been on whole foods as much organic as possible 95% gluten,

sugar, dairy and yeast free for the last 4 years while I was trying to figure

out what was wrong and saw a slew of naturopaths who never mentioned synthetic

thyroid hormone.

> > >

> > > My supp's are

> > > 1/2 tsp sea salt am and pm

> > > 400-500mg magnesium citrate

> > > zinc, selenium (not too much selenium as I had gone too high on my NTH

and had to reduce due to racing heart and palps)

> > > 4000 mg vit c

> > > two tabs? calcium citrate

> > > milk thistle on and off (I know my liver is compromised from my face

> > > skin tone in the am on days I ate incorrectly the day before and I have

never been a drinker)

> > > Vit D3 5-10,000 per day

> > > blue bonnet chelated iron 3 tabs every other day as I get constipated

from it (ferritin was 67)

> > >

> > >

> > > I don't have doc's appt until Dec and he does not believe in ferritin,

body temps, sodium pottasium levels and relationship to thyroid but he gives me

prescrips freely so far so I'm pretty much self treating.

> > >

> > > So do I need to do the load test or can I get started and how much? I

wonder if you can go slow as I don't want to stress my adrenals with too much

detoxing if that makes sense.

> > >

> > > Thanks for all your wonderful input.

> > >

> > >

> > >

> >

> > ________________________________

> >

>

[Guest guest]

I apologize if I sounded harsh in anyway. I don't sleep, so please forgive my ignorance.I had a hard time scouting around our group pages but once I figured I read everything I could. I'm sure you are doing fine if you already knew how to navigate your way around.I apologize if I sounded too harsh this morning. from IllinoisFrom: hardrockshoney <sandralhowie@...>iodine Sent: Fri, October 15, 2010 9:31:00 AMSubject: Re: want to start iodoral

Hi and thank you

I have no problem reading so pardon my ignorance. By the groups homepage do you mean reading under links, database etc if not then please direct me and I will read away. Many times I just feel plain dumb when I'm trying to grasp it all and so I do not wish to take the easy way out when has done all the hard work, I just couldn't see the section where it says how to get started and read on Breast cancer choices site that I needed to do a load test so wanted some further clarification from y'all.

Thank you again for your help

> >

> > I have mostly been on thyroidless and have come a long way since last February

> >but know I have that far to go again and want to start iodoral that I recently

> >bought after it has been suggested a number of times by Gracia Bee on

> >thyroidless group.

> > I'm 46,thyroidless papillary cancer in 1994 spread to 5 lymph removed also.

> >Last 5 years of my life were hell from the effects of synthetic thyroid hormone.

> >

> > Started NTH in February this year and then hydrocortisone soon after but had to

> >address 2 infected teeth which were removed in Sept. I'm starting to feel

> >better but still can't get HC lowered below 40. I work full time and am not a

> >rester, when I feel better I get doing things, not sure if that is hurting me

> >but I feel for once like I have a quality of life back.

> > I have been on whole foods as much organic as possible 95% gluten, sugar, dairy

> >and yeast free for the last 4 years while I was trying to figure out what was

> >wrong and saw a slew of naturopaths who never mentioned synthetic thyroid

> >hormone.

> >

> > My supp's are

> > 1/2 tsp sea salt am and pm

> > 400-500mg magnesium citrate

> > zinc, selenium (not too much selenium as I had gone too high on my NTH and had

> >to reduce due to racing heart and palps)

> > 4000 mg vit c

> > two tabs? calcium citrate

> > milk thistle on and off (I know my liver is compromised from my face

> > skin tone in the am on days I ate incorrectly the day before and I have never

> >been a drinker)

> > Vit D3 5-10,000 per day

> > blue bonnet chelated iron 3 tabs every other day as I get constipated from it

> >(ferritin was 67)

> >

> >

> > I don't have doc's appt until Dec and he does not believe in ferritin, body

> >temps, sodium pottasium levels and relationship to thyroid but he gives me

> >prescrips freely so far so I'm pretty much self treating.

> >

> > So do I need to do the load test or can I get started and how much? I wonder if

> >you can go slow as I don't want to stress my adrenals with too much detoxing if

> >that makes sense.

> >

> > Thanks for all your wonderful input.

> >

> >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Don't you give it a second thought girl, I would die without my sleep and

completely understand what you were saying. I was just telling my mom today that

if it were not for the kind and generous with their time moderators of these

groups I would not have a hope in hell so far to get better and feel so very

blessed to have found them!

Take care

> > >

> > > I have mostly been on thyroidless and have come a long way since last

> >February

> >

> > >but know I have that far to go again and want to start iodoral that I

recently

> >

> > >bought after it has been suggested a number of times by Gracia Bee on

> > >thyroidless group.

> > > I'm 46,thyroidless papillary cancer in 1994 spread to 5 lymph removed

also.

> > >Last 5 years of my life were hell from the effects of synthetic thyroid

> >hormone.

> >

> > >

> > > Started NTH in February this year and then hydrocortisone soon after but

had

> >to

> >

> > >address 2 infected teeth which were removed in Sept. I'm starting to feel

> > >better but still can't get HC lowered below 40. I work full time and am not

a

>

> > >rester, when I feel better I get doing things, not sure if that is hurting

me

>

> > >but I feel for once like I have a quality of life back.

> > > I have been on whole foods as much organic as possible 95% gluten, sugar,

> >dairy

> >

> > >and yeast free for the last 4 years while I was trying to figure out what

was

>

> > >wrong and saw a slew of naturopaths who never mentioned synthetic thyroid

> > >hormone.

> > >

> > > My supp's are

> > > 1/2 tsp sea salt am and pm

> > > 400-500mg magnesium citrate

> > > zinc, selenium (not too much selenium as I had gone too high on my NTH and

> >had

> >

> > >to reduce due to racing heart and palps)

> > > 4000 mg vit c

> > > two tabs? calcium citrate

> > > milk thistle on and off (I know my liver is compromised from my face

> > > skin tone in the am on days I ate incorrectly the day before and I have

never

> >

> > >been a drinker)

> > > Vit D3 5-10,000 per day

> > > blue bonnet chelated iron 3 tabs every other day as I get constipated from

it

> >

> > >(ferritin was 67)

> > >

> > >

> > > I don't have doc's appt until Dec and he does not believe in ferritin,

body

> > >temps, sodium pottasium levels and relationship to thyroid but he gives me

> > >prescrips freely so far so I'm pretty much self treating.

> > >

> > > So do I need to do the load test or can I get started and how much? I

wonder

> >if

> >

> > >you can go slow as I don't want to stress my adrenals with too much

detoxing

> >if

> >

> > >that makes sense.

> > >

> > > Thanks for all your wonderful input.

> > >

> > >

> > >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

I haven't heard of anyone that has had issues with herbs. Are you on probiotics? That helps leaky gut.

Steph

Re: want to start iodoral

Hi Steph,Oh that's right, I forgot about dandelion and lemon. Steph, my diet has always been rotational (candida, leaky gut) as I don't want to develop any further sensitivities, is it different for drops or can one develop a sensitivity to that too if they don't rotate it?