Guest guest Posted May 14, 2010 Report Share Posted May 14, 2010 I didn't mention this in my previous note, but is there any kind of protocol I can follow for decreasing thyroid med while increasing iodine? For example: add 1 drop of Lugol's, and 3 days later, decrease desiccated thyroid by 1/4 grain? I just would like to head off hyperthyroid symptoms, if possible. Chest pain and anxiety are not very pleasant. Thanks much! Judy > > I've been increasing iodine very gradually, because I started getting detox symptoms when I took only about 6 or 12 mg. Around the time I got up to 6 drops of 2% Lugol's (mid April), I was having some possibly hyperthyroid symptoms--chest pains, pounding heart, insomnia. I decreased from 2 1/2 grains desiccated thyroid to 2 1/4. Those symptoms went away. > > About a week ago, I increased to 7 drops Lugol's. Last night I had some chest pain again. Earlier today I felt some anxiety. I'm wondering whether I need to decrease to 2 grains des. thyroid. > > I've heard of people being able to decrease or discontinue thyroid med as a result of taking iodine. Is it possible though that this dosage of Lugol's would be enough for me to stop decreasing thyroid med, and this quickly? > > The more I've learned, the more I wonder whether iodine is the true cause of my thyroid problems. My maternal grandmother had a goiter and died in her 50s, I think my mother has undiagnosed thyroid problems...so maybe I " inherited " an iodine deficiency. AND my parents and all my siblings and I were born in Michigan (the goiter belt). > > So I'm wondering and hoping that perhaps building up the iodine, if it's what hindering my thyroid, will cause my working to totally work again. > > By the way, I am also taking Dr. Ron's thyroid glandular and sea vegetables supplement, so that could be partly too what's apparently allowing me to decrease thyroid med. > > Also, is it normal/common to feel depressed or have swollen feet/ankles from iodine detox? > > Judy > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 14, 2010 Report Share Posted May 14, 2010 Sounds more like detox than hyperthyroid. Have you read the list at www.breastcancerchoices.org? All your symptoms, including depression can be detox. Are ;you taking all the companion nutrients? Are you getting plenty of magnesium? Whole sea salt? The swollen ankles could be that your liver is clogged, and not processing the toxins well. You are not taking that large an amount of iodine. Also, iodine was the way to control hyperthyroidism in the past, it does not cause it but helps it. Both hyper and hypo are worsened by a lack of iodine. Donna in IL From: iodine [mailto:iodine ] On Behalf Of judybiz2002 Sent: Thursday, May 13, 2010 10:39 PM iodine Subject: Decreasing thyroid meds as iodine builds up I've been increasing iodine very gradually, because I started getting detox symptoms when I took only about 6 or 12 mg. Around the time I got up to 6 drops of 2% Lugol's (mid April), I was having some possibly hyperthyroid symptoms--chest pains, pounding heart, insomnia. I decreased from 2 1/2 grains desiccated thyroid to 2 1/4. Those symptoms went away. About a week ago, I increased to 7 drops Lugol's. Last night I had some chest pain again. Earlier today I felt some anxiety. I'm wondering whether I need to decrease to 2 grains des. thyroid. I've heard of people being able to decrease or discontinue thyroid med as a result of taking iodine. Is it possible though that this dosage of Lugol's would be enough for me to stop decreasing thyroid med, and this quickly? The more I've learned, the more I wonder whether iodine is the true cause of my thyroid problems. My maternal grandmother had a goiter and died in her 50s, I think my mother has undiagnosed thyroid problems...so maybe I " inherited " an iodine deficiency. AND my parents and all my siblings and I were born in Michigan (the goiter belt). So I'm wondering and hoping that perhaps building up the iodine, if it's what hindering my thyroid, will cause my working to totally work again. By the way, I am also taking Dr. Ron's thyroid glandular and sea vegetables supplement, so that could be partly too what's apparently allowing me to decrease thyroid med. Also, is it normal/common to feel depressed or have swollen feet/ankles from iodine detox? Judy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 14, 2010 Report Share Posted May 14, 2010 It will be easier to prevent the side effects of too much iodine/ thyroid medicine if she's getting the cod liver oil and sufficient saturated fats and cholesterol in her diet. Can you take notes and observe her behavior? This should tell you what to do. Minno Re: Decreasing thyroid meds as iodine builds up I didn't mention this in my previous note, but is there any kind of protocol I can follow for decreasing thyroid med while increasing iodine?For example: add 1 drop of Lugol's, and 3 days later, decrease desiccated thyroid by 1/4 grain?I just would like to head off hyperthyroid symptoms, if possible. Chest pain and anxiety are not very pleasant.Thanks much!Judy>> I've been increasing iodine very gradually, because I started getting detox symptoms when I took only about 6 or 12 mg. Around the time I got up to 6 drops of 2% Lugol's (mid April), I was having some possibly hyperthyroid symptoms--chest pains, pounding heart, insomnia. I decreased from 2 1/2 grains desiccated thyroid to 2 1/4. Those symptoms went away.> > About a week ago, I increased to 7 drops Lugol's. Last night I had some chest pain again. Earlier today I felt some anxiety. I'm wondering whether I need to decrease to 2 grains des. thyroid.> > I've heard of people being able to decrease or discontinue thyroid med as a result of taking iodine. Is it possible though that this dosage of Lugol's would be enough for me to stop decreasing thyroid med, and this quickly?> > The more I've learned, the more I wonder whether iodine is the true cause of my thyroid problems. My maternal grandmother had a goiter and died in her 50s, I think my mother has undiagnosed thyroid problems...so maybe I "inherited" an iodine deficiency. AND my parents and all my siblings and I were born in Michigan (the goiter belt).> > So I'm wondering and hoping that perhaps building up the iodine, if it's what hindering my thyroid, will cause my working to totally work again.> > By the way, I am also taking Dr. Ron's thyroid glandular and sea vegetables supplement, so that could be partly too what's apparently allowing me to decrease thyroid med.> > Also, is it normal/common to feel depressed or have swollen feet/ankles from iodine detox?> > Judy> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 14, 2010 Report Share Posted May 14, 2010 Yes I can say that the detox will cause swollen feet and legs (and face and hands) as well as depression. Also detox often causes pain wherever the toxins were lodged, as they are removed from the body. Also it's important to be taking the fermented cod liver oil along with the iodine, and to be eating a diet low in grains and sweeteners, and high in saturated fats and cholesterol. Minno Decreasing thyroid meds as iodine builds up I've been increasing iodine very gradually, because I started getting detox symptoms when I took only about 6 or 12 mg. Around the time I got up to 6 drops of 2% Lugol's (mid April), I was having some possibly hyperthyroid symptoms--chest pains, pounding heart, insomnia. I decreased from 2 1/2 grains desiccated thyroid to 2 1/4. Those symptoms went away.About a week ago, I increased to 7 drops Lugol's. Last night I had some chest pain again. Earlier today I felt some anxiety. I'm wondering whether I need to decrease to 2 grains des. thyroid.I've heard of people being able to decrease or discontinue thyroid med as a result of taking iodine. Is it possible though that this dosage of Lugol's would be enough for me to stop decreasing thyroid med, and this quickly?The more I've learned, the more I wonder whether iodine is the true cause of my thyroid problems. My maternal grandmother had a goiter and died in her 50s, I think my mother has undiagnosed thyroid problems...so maybe I "inherited" an iodine deficiency. AND my parents and all my siblings and I were born in Michigan (the goiter belt).So I'm wondering and hoping that perhaps building up the iodine, if it's what hindering my thyroid, will cause my working to totally work again.By the way, I am also taking Dr. Ron's thyroid glandular and sea vegetables supplement, so that could be partly too what's apparently allowing me to decrease thyroid med.Also, is it normal/common to feel depressed or have swollen feet/ankles from iodine detox?Judy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 14, 2010 Report Share Posted May 14, 2010 Wow, fermented CLO really helps with liver detox? That stuff is like a miracle potion. Do you take Green Pastures CLO? How much do you take? It can get pretty expensive. It's pretty high in vit A, as compared to other CLO brands, isn't it? How do you make a dandelion infusion? I have some dandelion teabags (Traditional Medicinals)--would that be just as good? I only had that tea one time, and I had diarrhea (not severe) for 2 days after. (I assume this was a sign that the tea was helping my body get rid of stuff?) Would I take dandelion tea or infusion once per day, or how often, and for how many days--is it safe to take that daily for long periods of time? When we're taking iodine and detoxing a bunch of stuff, does this cause the liver to work harder? The kidneys are worked pretty hard during iodine detox, right? But if the liver is worked harder, I guess it makes sense to help the liver eliminate stuff properly and efficiently during iodine detox, by using things like dandelion. Judy > > For liver detox: Fermented cod liver oil. Dandelion infusion: > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 16, 2010 Report Share Posted May 16, 2010 Does too much iodine cause hypothyroid issues? Reason I ask, I recently had a Catscan using an iodine contrast and my TSH #’s were almost 4x what they were a year ago A year ago I was at 1.3, now at 4.7 From: iodine [mailto:iodine ] On Behalf Of judybiz2002 Sent: Friday, May 14, 2010 4:03 PM iodine Subject: Re: Decreasing thyroid meds as iodine builds up Thanks--yes, I've read that list of detox symptoms. One reason why I think the chest pains, etc. were caused by my thyroid med dosage being too high (as a result of iodine possibly allowing my own body to make more thyroid hormones) was that when I reduced my thyroid med dosage, the chest pains and pounding heart went away. Yet I didn't feel hypothyroid (undermedicated). I had been feeling pretty happy (not depressed), and the day after I increased by a drop of iodine, I felt more depressed/lethargic. So yes, I was wondering whether that symptom was iodine detox. Yes, I'm taking the companion nutrients. How much Celtic salt per day is recommended? I'm taking Natural Calm magnesium (525 mg) plus using Ancient Minerals topically. Do most people also take calcium, and if so, how much? The feet/ankle swelling has come and gone since Nov. I started my healing/detox program about 7 months before that--diet, supplements, etc. So yes, what you said about liver congestion could make sense. I notice the swelling being worse when I haven't gotten enough sleep and/or have been sitting/standing for too long. Sometimes it's also worse before/during monthly cycles. So I've wondered whether the swelling relates to hormones and/or electrolyte imbalance. Anyway, if feet/ankle/leg swelling is caused by liver congestion, what would I do to relieve that? I'm drinking milk thistle tea, but maybe that's not powerful enough on its own? I also have milk thistle in a dropper bottle. Judy > > Sounds more like detox than hyperthyroid. Have you read the list at www.breastcancerchoices.org<http://www.breastcancerchoices.org>? All your symptoms, including depression can be detox. Are ;you taking all the companion nutrients? Are you getting plenty of magnesium? Whole sea salt? The swollen ankles could be that your liver is clogged, and not processing the toxins well. > > You are not taking that large an amount of iodine. Also, iodine was the way to control hyperthyroidism in the past, it does not cause it but helps it. Both hyper and hypo are worsened by a lack of iodine. > > Donna in IL > > From: iodine [mailto:iodine ] On Behalf Of judybiz2002 > Sent: Thursday, May 13, 2010 10:39 PM > iodine > Subject: Decreasing thyroid meds as iodine builds up > > > > I've been increasing iodine very gradually, because I started getting detox symptoms when I took only about 6 or 12 mg. Around the time I got up to 6 drops of 2% Lugol's (mid April), I was having some possibly hyperthyroid symptoms--chest pains, pounding heart, insomnia. I decreased from 2 1/2 grains desiccated thyroid to 2 1/4. Those symptoms went away. > > About a week ago, I increased to 7 drops Lugol's. Last night I had some chest pain again. Earlier today I felt some anxiety. I'm wondering whether I need to decrease to 2 grains des. thyroid. > > I've heard of people being able to decrease or discontinue thyroid med as a result of taking iodine. Is it possible though that this dosage of Lugol's would be enough for me to stop decreasing thyroid med, and this quickly? > > The more I've learned, the more I wonder whether iodine is the true cause of my thyroid problems. My maternal grandmother had a goiter and died in her 50s, I think my mother has undiagnosed thyroid problems...so maybe I " inherited " an iodine deficiency. AND my parents and all my siblings and I were born in Michigan (the goiter belt). > > So I'm wondering and hoping that perhaps building up the iodine, if it's what hindering my thyroid, will cause my working to totally work again. > > By the way, I am also taking Dr. Ron's thyroid glandular and sea vegetables supplement, so that could be partly too what's apparently allowing me to decrease thyroid med. > > Also, is it normal/common to feel depressed or have swollen feet/ankles from iodine detox? > > Judy > > ________________________________ > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 16, 2010 Report Share Posted May 16, 2010 TSH increases to stimulate thyroglobulin to bind to iodine. If you are deficient TSH increases significantly to perform this. Free T3 and Free T4 will remain in the normal ranges. Steph Decreasing thyroid meds as iodine builds up> > > > I've been increasing iodine very gradually, because I started getting detox symptoms when I took only about 6 or 12 mg. Around the time I got up to 6 drops of 2% Lugol's (mid April), I was having some possibly hyperthyroid symptoms--chest pains, pounding heart, insomnia. I decreased from 2 1/2 grains desiccated thyroid to 2 1/4. Those symptoms went away.> > About a week ago, I increased to 7 drops Lugol's. Last night I had some chest pain again. Earlier today I felt some anxiety. I'm wondering whether I need to decrease to 2 grains des. thyroid.> > I've heard of people being able to decrease or discontinue thyroid med as a result of taking iodine. Is it possible though that this dosage of Lugol's would be enough for me to stop decreasing thyroid med, and this quickly?> > The more I've learned, the more I wonder whether iodine is the true cause of my thyroid problems. My maternal grandmother had a goiter and died in her 50s, I think my mother has undiagnosed thyroid problems...so maybe I "inherited" an iodine deficiency. AND my parents and all my siblings and I were born in Michigan (the goiter belt).> > So I'm wondering and hoping that perhaps building up the iodine, if it's what hindering my thyroid, will cause my working to totally work again.> > By the way, I am also taking Dr. Ron's thyroid glandular and sea vegetables supplement, so that could be partly too what's apparently allowing me to decrease thyroid med.> > Also, is it normal/common to feel depressed or have swollen feet/ankles from iodine detox?> > Judy> > ________________________________> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 16, 2010 Report Share Posted May 16, 2010 No, iodine does NOT cause hypothyroidism. Lack of iodine does. -- >Does too much iodine cause hypothyroid issues? >Reason I ask, I recently had a Catscan using an iodine contrast and my TSH >#'s were almost 4x what they were a year ago >A year ago I was at 1.3, now at 4.7 > > ~~~ There is no way to peace; peace is the way ~~~~ --A.J. Muste Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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