!Re: Re: iodine and dementia

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Lindsy,

I think this is the group was referring to, the " adult-metal-chelation "

group:

adult-metal-chelation/ Its moderator is

Andy Cutler.

Greg

> > >

> > > Tammy,

> > >

> > > Please google Andy Cutler's method of chelation/heavy metal detox. You

> > have to

> > > be very careful when detoxing heavy metals b/c of re-distribution. His

> > method

> > > is based on very low levels of DMSA administerd every 3-4 hours around

> > the clock

> > > for several days, then taking days off to let your body recover. DMSA

> > almost

> > > acts as a magnet and grabs the metals and escorts them from your body.Â

> > But it

> > > only has a shelf life of 3-4 hours (can't remember which) and if you just

> > give

> > > one big dose, the DMSA canl go 'grab' the metal and just 'let go' when it

> > wears

> > > off and that's when it can re-distribute into your fatty tissue (brain,

> > > liver,etc).Â

> > >

> > >

> > > This is a VERY rudimentary explanation, which is why you should google

> > it, there

> > > are even groups out there that specialize on this method of

> > chelation.Â

> > > One of them is moderated by Andy Cutler himself.

> > >

> > > You could do yourself more harm than good with the amount and application

> > that

> > > your doctor prescribed. As someone said on here earlier, he's in the

> > right

> > > church, but in the wrong pew

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > ________________________________

> > > From: Tammy McClellan <qtbunch@>

> > > iodine <iodine%40>

> > > Sent: Thu, October 28, 2010 2:09:54 PM

> > > Subject: RE: Re: iodine and dementia

> > >

> > > Â

> > > Thanks, Greg for your third party opinion, because both my mom and my

> > husband

> > > feel it is in vain to help Dad at this point…………and that is

> > basically what they

> > > and hospice are saying. I appreciate your honesty.

> > > Â

> > > Although, I am detoxing from metals now and feel awful too! I should

> > still do

> > > it anyway, right…..even though you are talking ‘brain’ and

> > ‘kidney’ issues. Do

> > > you have a link about “properly conjugated in a form to assure their

> > safe

> > > elimination†? I guess I don’t know what you mean there. Thanks,

> > Tammy

> > > Â

> > > From:iodine <iodine%40> [mailto:

> > iodine <iodine%40>] On Behalf Of gnomen2

> > > Sent: Thursday, October 28, 2010 1:48 PM

> > > iodine <iodine%40>

> > > Subject: Re: iodine and dementia

> > > Â

> > > Â

> > > Tammy,

> > >

> > > Heavy metal detoxification possesses it's own dangers. It's a complex and

> >

> > > potentially dangerous therapeutic protocol. DMSA may chelate metals,

> > however

> > > there's no guarantee that these metals once chelated might not end up in

> > brain

> > > or kidney tissue, doing more harm than good. Once metals are chelated

> > they need

> > > to be properly conjugated in a form to assure their safe elimination.

> > >

> > > I think it might be of value to throughly research " heavy metal

> > detoxification

> > > protocols " before embarking on a therapeutic program. This is an area I

> > haven't

> > > thoroughly enough researched to offer more detailed insights. Perhaps

> > another

> > > group member with more experience might be able to guide you in a safe

> > > direction. And there's always Google. . .

> > >

> > > Greg

> > >

> >

> >

> >

>

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With respect, I know people who have done very poorly on the Cutler protocol, including one who paid him as a consultant. ANY method of chelation can be problematic for some people, & you need to be aware of that. It is a subject you should research broadly, & be aware to stop a protocol, whether Cutler's or any other, that does not agree with you. I fear this is an area where there are LOTS of disagreements, & some of the "experts" refuse to admit that their protocols are not beneficial to everyone.There also seems to be an issue that iodine, itself, can promote some degree of chelation, so it may be easy to chelate too quickly if you add another chelation protocol. Be slow & cautious.As to whether it is too late to help somebody, that is REALLY hard to know. My husband works with a guy with cancer who was put in hospice care, because the docs said he was dying. Turns out, he was having an allergic reaction to a drug, & when they got him off the drug, he improved enough that he was able to go back to work. (I have no idea what his long-term prognosis is.) Our bodies are so complex, & we are often so unaware of what is going on inside them, that strange synergies can happen, for good or ill. Things you do to the good might not make a difference, at this point, but they might. As long as you are not doing anything that actually harms him, why not try?AnneOn Oct 28, 2010, at 11:25 AM, ez wrote: Tammy, Please google Andy Cutler's method of chelation/heavy metal detox. You have to be very careful when detoxing heavy metals b/c of re-distribution. His method is based on very low levels of DMSA administerd every 3-4 hours around the clock for several days, then taking days off to let your body recover. DMSA almost acts as a magnet and grabs the metals and escorts them from your body. But it only has a shelf life of 3-4 hours (can't remember which) and if you just give one big dose, the DMSA canl go 'grab' the metal and just 'let go' when it wears off and that's when it can re-distribute into your fatty tissue (brain, liver,etc). This is a VERY rudimentary explanation, which is why you should google it, there are even groups out there that specialize on this method of chelation. One of them is moderated by Andy Cutler himself. You could do yourself more harm than good with the amount and application that your doctor prescribed. As someone said on here earlier, he's in the right church, but in the wrong pew From: Tammy McClellan <qtbunch@...>iodine Sent: Thu, October 28, 2010 2:09:54 PMSubject: RE: Re: iodine and dementia Thanks, Greg for your third party opinion, because both my mom and my husband feel it is in vain to help Dad at this point…………and that is basically what they and hospice are saying. I appreciate your honesty. Although, I am detoxing from metals now and feel awful too! I should still do it anyway, right…..even though you are talking ‘brain’ and ‘kidney’ issues. Do you have a link about “properly conjugated in a form to assure their safe elimination” ? I guess I don’t know what you mean there. Thanks, Tammy From: iodine [mailto:iodine ] On Behalf Of gnomen2Sent: Thursday, October 28, 2010 1:48 PMiodine Subject: Re: iodine and dementia Tammy,Heavy metal detoxification possesses it's own dangers. It's a complex and potentially dangerous therapeutic protocol. DMSA may chelate metals, however there's no guarantee that these metals once chelated might not end up in brain or kidney tissue, doing more harm than good. Once metals are chelated they need to be properly conjugated in a form to assure their safe elimination.I think it might be of value to throughly research "heavy metal detoxification protocols" before embarking on a therapeutic program. This is an area I haven't thoroughly enough researched to offer more detailed insights. Perhaps another group member with more experience might be able to guide you in a safe direction. And there's always Google. . .Greg >> ,> > > > My Dad has Hypothyroidism, yes. I only "realized" what was going on with> him when I realized what was going on with me. I forced, (ha ha) his> Veteran Affairs (V.A.) Doctor to switch him to Armour this month because he> was previously on levothyroxine, but I don't believe I'll ever get his> dosage right with them as they will not increase it like they should because> of not knowing how, etc.> > > > I started giving him Lugol's about a month ago with the salt, selenium, etc.> I was afraid the other night he was getting pneumonia so I loaded him up on> C and gave him extra iodine, and after reading a post about mucus, I decided> I was going to just pound it to him. I mean, hospice is coming in, and NOW> I KNOW WHAT HAS BEEN WRONG WITH HIM!!!!!! God is Sovereign, I know, and I> don't want to torture my Dad with a detox, it's just that I wonder how some> of these measures (Iodine, metal detox, vitamin deficiency treatment, etc...> ) can be helped.> > > > AND HIS TONGUE IS SOLID WHITE. The V.A. Nurse Practitioner swabbed his> mouth and the result came back negative for Candida. Their tests are wrong.> They did a blood draw for metals. Negative. It is wrong, I know! They> wouldn't give DMSA and a provoking agent and do the urine as I requested.> They just don't know how, or they do and refuse to step out of their circle> to be different.> > > > So, I've been given compounded 500 mg DMSA once a week by prescription. I> just wonder, can't I give him DMSA that I can buy on the internet? I'm> going to try...I'll never know if he could have been better if I don't try.> > > > > He doesn't talk anymore.> > > > And thanks too, I'm giving him coconut oil.> > > > Tammy> > > > From: iodine [mailto:iodine ] On Behalf Of> ladybugsandbees> Sent: Thursday, October 28, 2010 8:47 AM> iodine > Subject: Re: iodine and dementia> > > > > > I am sure it will help as many older people are undx'd low thyroid.> > > > Dr. Blaylock believes that dementia is related to aluminum toxicity. > > > > I have also read that high amounts of Virgin Coconut Oil help as the brain> loses it's ability to metabolic glucose but the VCO provides ketones that it> is able to use.> > > > Steph> > > > > > iodine and dementia> > > > > > Has anyone heard of helping dementia patients with iodine? There are so> many compilations to dementia that I know it would help, but there is so> many other things to attack right along with it, like metals, candida, etc.> > ***************> > Tammy McClellan>

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I agree with you, Anne, that chelation is nothing to play around with. Every method will have successes and failures. I personally think AC is the safest way to go, because it is more cautious than other methods, but I agree 100% that any method could potentially be harmful and to listen to your body and research research research

From: Anne Seals <anneseals@...>iodine Sent: Thu, October 28, 2010 6:30:10 PMSubject: Re: !Re: Re: iodine and dementia

With respect, I know people who have done very poorly on the Cutler protocol, including one who paid him as a consultant. ANY method of chelation can be problematic for some people, & you need to be aware of that. It is a subject you should research broadly, & be aware to stop a protocol, whether Cutler's or any other, that does not agree with you. I fear this is an area where there are LOTS of disagreements, & some of the "experts" refuse to admit that their protocols are not beneficial to everyone.

There also seems to be an issue that iodine, itself, can promote some degree of chelation, so it may be easy to chelate too quickly if you add another chelation protocol. Be slow & cautious.

As to whether it is too late to help somebody, that is REALLY hard to know. My husband works with a guy with cancer who was put in hospice care, because the docs said he was dying. Turns out, he was having an allergic reaction to a drug, & when they got him off the drug, he improved enough that he was able to go back to work. (I have no idea what his long-term prognosis is.) Our bodies are so complex, & we are often so unaware of what is going on inside them, that strange synergies can happen, for good or ill. Things you do to the good might not make a difference, at this point, but they might. As long as you are not doing anything that actually harms him, why not try?

Anne

On Oct 28, 2010, at 11:25 AM, ez wrote:

Tammy,

Please google Andy Cutler's method of chelation/heavy metal detox. You have to be very careful when detoxing heavy metals b/c of re-distribution. His method is based on very low levels of DMSA administerd every 3-4 hours around the clock for several days, then taking days off to let your body recover. DMSA almost acts as a magnet and grabs the metals and escorts them from your body. But it only has a shelf life of 3-4 hours (can't remember which) and if you just give one big dose, the DMSA canl go 'grab' the metal and just 'let go' when it wears off and that's when it can re-distribute into your fatty tissue (brain, liver,etc).

This is a VERY rudimentary explanation, which is why you should google it, there are even groups out there that specialize on this method of chelation. One of them is moderated by Andy Cutler himself.

You could do yourself more harm than good with the amount and application that your doctor prescribed. As someone said on here earlier, he's in the right church, but in the wrong pew

From: Tammy McClellan <qtbunch@...>iodine Sent: Thu, October 28, 2010 2:09:54 PMSubject: RE: Re: iodine and dementia

Thanks, Greg for your third party opinion, because both my mom and my husband feel it is in vain to help Dad at this point…………and that is basically what they and hospice are saying. I appreciate your honesty.

Although, I am detoxing from metals now and feel awful too! I should still do it anyway, right…..even though you are talking ‘brain’ and ‘kidney’ issues. Do you have a link about “properly conjugated in a form to assure their safe elimination†? I guess I don’t know what you mean there. Thanks, Tammy

From: iodine [mailto:iodine ] On Behalf Of gnomen2Sent: Thursday, October 28, 2010 1:48 PMiodine Subject: Re: iodine and dementia

Tammy,Heavy metal detoxification possesses it's own dangers. It's a complex and potentially dangerous therapeutic protocol. DMSA may chelate metals, however there's no guarantee that these metals once chelated might not end up in brain or kidney tissue, doing more harm than good. Once metals are chelated they need to be properly conjugated in a form to assure their safe elimination.I think it might be of value to throughly research "heavy metal detoxification protocols" before embarking on a therapeutic program. This is an area I haven't thoroughly enough researched to offer more detailed insights. Perhaps another group member with more experience might be able to guide you in a safe direction. And there's always Google. . .Greg >> ,> > > > My Dad has Hypothyroidism, yes. I only "realized" what was going on with> him when I realized what was going on with me. I forced, (ha ha) his> Veteran Affairs (V.A.) Doctor to switch him to Armour this month because he> was previously on levothyroxine, but I don't believe I'll ever get his> dosage right with them as they will not increase it like they should because> of not knowing how, etc.> > > > I started giving him Lugol's about a month ago with the salt, selenium, etc.> I was afraid the other night he was getting pneumonia so I loaded him up on> C and gave him extra iodine, and after reading a post about mucus, I decided> I was going to just pound it to him. I mean, hospice is coming in, and NOW> I KNOW WHAT HAS BEEN WRONG WITH HIM!!!!!! God is Sovereign, I know, and I> don't want to

torture my Dad with a detox, it's just that I wonder how some> of these measures (Iodine, metal detox, vitamin deficiency treatment, etc...> ) can be helped.> > > > AND HIS TONGUE IS SOLID WHITE. The V.A. Nurse Practitioner swabbed his> mouth and the result came back negative for Candida. Their tests are wrong.> They did a blood draw for metals. Negative. It is wrong, I know! They> wouldn't give DMSA and a provoking agent and do the urine as I requested.> They just don't know how, or they do and refuse to step out of their circle> to be different.> > > > So, I've been given compounded 500 mg DMSA once a week by prescription. I> just wonder, can't I give him DMSA that I can buy on the internet? I'm> going to try...I'll never know if he could have been better if I don't try.> > > > > He doesn't talk

anymore.> > > > And thanks too, I'm giving him coconut oil.> > > > Tammy> > > > From: iodine [mailto:iodine ] On Behalf Of> ladybugsandbees> Sent: Thursday, October 28, 2010 8:47 AM> iodine > Subject: Re: iodine and dementia> > > > > > I am sure it will help as many older people are undx'd low thyroid.> > > > Dr. Blaylock believes that dementia is related to aluminum toxicity.

> > > > I have also read that high amounts of Virgin Coconut Oil help as the brain> loses it's ability to metabolic glucose but the VCO provides ketones that it> is able to use.> > > > Steph> > > > > > iodine and dementia> > > > > > Has anyone heard of helping dementia patients with iodine? There are so> many compilations to dementia that I know it would help, but there is

so> many other things to attack right along with it, like metals, candida, etc.> > ***************> > Tammy McClellan>