Re: Re: Metals and weather

[Guest guest]

Hello Loren,

I go to a practitioner that is just great in Hot Springs, SD. He uses a

biophoton pad, so you can have 4 treatments per day, 2 hrs apart. I had NAET

treatments back in MI where I used to live about 8 yrs ago without much

success...but after starting the iodine, I started to get results then. The

iodine made the difference in the success of the NAET treatments.

Linsey

On Mar 13, 2010, at 10:06 PM, ayah591 wrote:

> Do you use NAET to treat yourself, or do you have a practitioner?

>

> Loren

>

>

>>

>> I have had very good success with NAET and people with barometer

sensitivities....you breathe into a plastic bag to increase the CO2 and decrease

the oxygen to mimic the weather fronts, and then hold your hand inside the bag

while you get treated.

>>

>> Linsey

>>

>>>

>>>

[Guest guest]

What is the usual separation time between iodine and vit C?  Are there any other vitamins or supplements that should not be taken along with the iodine?

 

On Sun, Mar 14, 2010 at 6:58 AM, D Ann <angelport@...> wrote:

 

I can chip in here, from an experiential perspective. I recently began responding to weather fronts in a way I hadn't noticed before.Not only was I having the joint swelling and pain that so many suffer from with barometric changes, but also began to get massive sinus pressure, drainage and inflammation. It got so bad, during the first major storm in Dec that I thought my eardrums would burst and had an enormous amount of pain for that and the body aches.

Yet, I was confident that this wasn't a virus; it happened only when there was a storm front moving thru. When it hit for the second storm, I was desperate to avoid the extremes of the previous experience.

I did some mental tallying and deduction, and realized that the sinus symptoms were likely a RESULT of inflammation. Not inflammation as a result of too much mucus production, etc. (The pressure arrived before the drainage; this opposite from my usual experience with sinus issues.) So, perhaps INFLAMMATION was the primary issue.

So, I did some digging around and came up with some short-term, quick response remedies for this weather-dependent inflammation:**green tea with ginger added (when not sipping this, I sip the water mix detailed below)

**MSM (I take 4grams 2x/day, so I upped it to an additional 2grams every 4 hours in between the regular doses) If you don't regularly take MSM, try 1gram every 4-6 hours**whole oranges, peeled but with the pith left on (peel the orange part off with a knife, but leave the white spongy layer on; eat together with the rest of the orange.)

**ascorbic acid with sodium bicarb (this can be obtained, for convenience' sake, by using Alka Seltzer Gold - it is baking soda and ascorbic acid with no other additives - follow directions on pkg!) **extra magnesium (I prepare a mix of 20-30oz water + powdered mag 1tsp + powdered ascorbic acid 1tsp + baking soda 1tsp, add a dash of lemon juice after stirring well and waiting for the fizzing to stop)

All of these are specifically designed to fight inflammation rather quickly. The ascorbic acid + bicarb is surprisingly effective; I don't use the water mix with bicarb when using the Alka Seltzer Gold. The water mix is what I drink all the time, substituting 1/4-1/2 tsp celtic sea salt for the sodium bicarb for the daily use.

The extra MSM and mag also have the benefit of helping with constipation. I also tend to eat things like cabbage and beets during this time, with seasonings like ginger and turmeric on the cabbage either in a dressing with olive oil or on the cooked cabbage. This also fights inflammation and eases constipation.

It surprised me to discover that this 'bad weather diet' not only had fast results and lowered ALL of my symptoms, but starting it when the weather front was headed my way but BEFORE the symptoms started actually prevented most or all of the symptoms. I no longer dread the storms!

No doubt, someone here can provide a great deal of detailed scientific explanation for each and every one of these steps, but what matters to me most is that it works! I'm guessing that using these items together also creates a synergystic effect, increasing the benefit over using only one of these remedies.

I recently passed this info along to my step daughter, who couldn't understand why she was getting sinus headaches in January. When we discovered that they coincided with storms, I suggested this 'bad weather diet' and she reported that it worked for her, too.

Interestingly, mercury has a direct association with inflammation, as does magnesium deficiency.Because I take the Iodoral tablet, there is no conflict with using the ascorbic acid mix or the Alka Seltzer Gold all thru the day. If using Lugol's, observe the regular separation between iodine and vit C consumption.

D'Ann >> A number of years ago I went to a chiropractor who had conducted his own research on the movement of heavy metals on various weather fronts. His findings were startling because they reflected my own experiences so precisely. One item I remember is that mercury is carried on the leading edge of a front, and aluminum on the back side (don't know if I'm using the correct terminology, but I haven't dug out the paper). This would explain why my symptoms -- constipation in particular -- get worse in bad weather.

> > I have recently been able to reduce my Iodoral from 200 to 150 mg due to an endocrine supplement I am taking, but on days like this with the storm clouds lowering, I need to increase the dose again. And add extra magnesium. And it still doesn't help. I am about to give up on going out this evening. Bummer.

> > Anyone care to weigh in with similar experiences? Or comments?> > Loren>

[Guest guest]

Does the Sulfur content of the MSM interfere with

thyroid hormones? I have MSM, but I've been

reluctant to use it because of the sulfur content.

Sulfur and couple of other things in cabbage, and

broccoli and so forth interfere with thyroid

hormones. But maybe the chemical composition of

MSM makes it a non issue since MSM is a derivative

of DMSO?

Where do you get your magnesium powder? I've been

looking for some:)

Sorry, not grilling you, LOL. I'm just curious and

short on time this morning:)

Bethann

" The greatest enemy of knowledge is not

ignorance...it is the illusion of knowledge "

~ Hawking

D Ann wrote:

>

>

> I can chip in here, from an experiential perspective. I recently began

> responding to weather fronts in a way I hadn't noticed before.

>

> Not only was I having the joint swelling and pain that so many suffer

> from with barometric changes, but also began to get massive sinus

> pressure, drainage and inflammation. It got so bad, during the first

> major storm in Dec that I thought my eardrums would burst and had an

> enormous amount of pain for that and the body aches.

>

> Yet, I was confident that this wasn't a virus; it happened only when

> there was a storm front moving thru. When it hit for the second storm, I

> was desperate to avoid the extremes of the previous experience.

>

> I did some mental tallying and deduction, and realized that the sinus

> symptoms were likely a RESULT of inflammation. Not inflammation as a

> result of too much mucus production, etc. (The pressure arrived before

> the drainage; this opposite from my usual experience with sinus issues.)

> So, perhaps INFLAMMATION was the primary issue.

>

> So, I did some digging around and came up with some short-term, quick

> response remedies for this weather-dependent inflammation:

>

> **green tea with ginger added (when not sipping this, I sip the water

> mix detailed below)

> **MSM (I take 4grams 2x/day, so I upped it to an additional 2grams every

> 4 hours in between the regular doses) If you don't regularly take MSM,

> try 1gram every 4-6 hours

> **whole oranges, peeled but with the pith left on (peel the orange part

> off with a knife, but leave the white spongy layer on; eat together with

> the rest of the orange.)

> **ascorbic acid with sodium bicarb (this can be obtained, for

> convenience' sake, by using Alka Seltzer Gold - it is baking soda and

> ascorbic acid with no other additives - follow directions on pkg!)

> **extra magnesium (I prepare a mix of 20-30oz water + powdered mag 1tsp

> + powdered ascorbic acid 1tsp + baking soda 1tsp, add a dash of lemon

> juice after stirring well and waiting for the fizzing to stop)

>

> All of these are specifically designed to fight inflammation rather

> quickly. The ascorbic acid + bicarb is surprisingly effective; I don't

> use the water mix with bicarb when using the Alka Seltzer Gold. The

> water mix is what I drink all the time, substituting 1/4-1/2 tsp celtic

> sea salt for the sodium bicarb for the daily use.

>

> The extra MSM and mag also have the benefit of helping with

> constipation. I also tend to eat things like cabbage and beets during

> this time, with seasonings like ginger and turmeric on the cabbage

> either in a dressing with olive oil or on the cooked cabbage. This also

> fights inflammation and eases constipation.

>

> It surprised me to discover that this 'bad weather diet' not only had

> fast results and lowered ALL of my symptoms, but starting it when the

> weather front was headed my way but BEFORE the symptoms started actually

> prevented most or all of the symptoms. I no longer dread the storms!

>

> No doubt, someone here can provide a great deal of detailed scientific

> explanation for each and every one of these steps, but what matters to

> me most is that it works! I'm guessing that using these items together

> also creates a synergystic effect, increasing the benefit over using

> only one of these remedies.

>

> I recently passed this info along to my step daughter, who couldn't

> understand why she was getting sinus headaches in January. When we

> discovered that they coincided with storms, I suggested this 'bad

> weather diet' and she reported that it worked for her, too.

>

> Interestingly, mercury has a direct association with inflammation, as

> does magnesium deficiency.

>

> Because I take the Iodoral tablet, there is no conflict with using the

> ascorbic acid mix or the Alka Seltzer Gold all thru the day. If using

> Lugol's, observe the regular separation between iodine and vit C

> consumption.

>

> D'Ann

>

> >

> > A number of years ago I went to a chiropractor who had conducted his

> own research on the movement of heavy metals on various weather fronts.

> His findings were startling because they reflected my own experiences so

> precisely. One item I remember is that mercury is carried on the leading

> edge of a front, and aluminum on the back side (don't know if I'm using

> the correct terminology, but I haven't dug out the paper). This would

> explain why my symptoms -- constipation in particular -- get worse in

> bad weather.

> >

> > I have recently been able to reduce my Iodoral from 200 to 150 mg due

> to an endocrine supplement I am taking, but on days like this with the

> storm clouds lowering, I need to increase the dose again. And add extra

> magnesium. And it still doesn't help. I am about to give up on going out

> this evening. Bummer.

> >

> > Anyone care to weigh in with similar experiences? Or comments?

> >

> > Loren

> >

>

>

[Guest guest]

ascorbic acid was taken by a friend of ours, a doctor, who died 3 times from the ascorbic acid. He is doing betternow but a good thing he has a wife who knows what to do under the circumstances. He said he only took about1/4th tsp a day for 3 months when he started to bleed. I do not know, I only take food products. AliceFrom: ayah591 <ayah591@...>To:

iodine Sent: Sun, March 14, 2010 8:33:20 PMSubject: Re: Metals and weather

D'Ann,

This is awesome information and potentially life-changing! I will definitely keep this on hand. It never occurred to me that a "bad weather episode" could actually be PREVENTED. It's interesting that you deduced that inflammation was actually the culprit in your sinus trouble before and during a storm. Sinuses are not my issue; I am trying to understand how inflammation applies in my case.

One thing I would change for myself is to use the ascorbic acid/baking soda mix rather than Alka-Seltzer. Just don't use prepared products very much. Any idea what the ratios would be of each item in a mixture?

I would also skip the green tea, as any amount of caffeine is a problem for me, esp. late in the day; and the oranges, as I have trouble with citrus apart from lemon juice. Is the idea to add extra antioxidants, bioflavinoids, and C? If so, can you suggest substitutions?

Loren

> >

> > A number of years ago I went to a chiropractor who had conducted his own research on the movement of heavy metals on various weather fronts. His findings were startling because they reflected my own experiences so precisely. One item I remember is that mercury is carried on the leading edge of a front, and aluminum on the back side (don't know if I'm using the correct terminology, but I haven't dug out the paper). This would explain why my symptoms -- constipation in particular -- get worse in bad weather.

> >

> > I have recently been able to reduce my Iodoral from 200 to 150 mg due to an endocrine supplement I am taking, but on days like this with the storm clouds lowering, I need to increase the dose again. And add extra magnesium. And it still doesn't help. I am about to give up on going out this evening. Bummer.

> >

> > Anyone care to weigh in with similar experiences? Or comments?

> >

> > Loren

> >

>

[Guest guest]

It's rumors like this that are going to get supplements banned and under heavy

legislation.

Orthomolecular.org and hundreds of other reputable organizations, nobel prize

winning scientests and thousands of others report NO deaths due to supplements.

But millions will die due to false rumors and such.

Ascorbic acid through history has saved thousands of lives and prevented

millions from serious disease.

Bruce

Re: Metals and weather

D'Ann,

This is awesome information and potentially life-changing! I will definitely

keep this on hand. It never occurred to me that a " bad weather episode " could

actually be PREVENTED. It's interesting that you deduced that inflammation was

actually the culprit in your sinus trouble before and during a storm. Sinuses

are not my issue; I am trying to understand how inflammation applies in my case.

One thing I would change for myself is to use the ascorbic acid/baking soda mix

rather than Alka-Seltzer. Just don't use prepared products very much. Any idea

what the ratios would be of each item in a mixture?

I would also skip the green tea, as any amount of caffeine is a problem for me,

esp. late in the day; and the oranges, as I have trouble with citrus apart from

lemon juice. Is the idea to add extra antioxidants, bioflavinoids, and C? If

so, can you suggest substitutions?

Loren

> >

> > A number of years ago I went to a chiropractor who had conducted his own

research on the movement of heavy metals on various weather fronts. His

findings were startling because they reflected my own experiences so precisely.

One item I remember is that mercury is carried on the leading edge of a front,

and aluminum on the back side (don't know if I'm using the correct terminology,

but I haven't dug out the paper). This would explain why my symptoms --

constipation in particular -- get worse in bad weather.

> >

> > I have recently been able to reduce my Iodoral from 200 to 150 mg due to an

endocrine supplement I am taking, but on days like this with the storm clouds

lowering, I need to increase the dose again. And add extra magnesium. And it

still doesn't help. I am about to give up on going out this evening. Bummer.

> >

> > Anyone care to weigh in with similar experiences? Or comments?

> >

> > Loren

> >

>

[Guest guest]

if this were a Pharma product the first announcement would be that he died from

underlying causes. But 3 times?

Really what does this report mean?

From: Alice Whaley <wiggleduckllc@...>Subject: Re: Re: Metals and weatheriodine Date: Monday, 15 March, 2010, 4:40

ascorbic acid was taken by a friend of ours, a doctor, who died 3 times from the ascorbic acid. He is doing betternow but a good thing he has a wife who knows what to do under the circumstances. He said he only took about1/4th tsp a day for 3 months when he started to bleed. I do not know, I only take food products. Alice

From: ayah591 <ayah591 (DOT) com>iodinegroups (DOT) comSent: Sun, March 14, 2010 8:33:20 PMSubject: Re: Metals and weather

D'Ann,This is awesome information and potentially life-changing! I will definitely keep this on hand. It never occurred to me that a "bad weather episode" could actually be PREVENTED. It's interesting that you deduced that inflammation was actually the culprit in your sinus trouble before and during a storm. Sinuses are not my issue; I am trying to understand how inflammation applies in my case.One thing I would change for myself is to use the ascorbic acid/baking soda mix rather than Alka-Seltzer. Just don't use prepared products very much. Any idea what the ratios would be of each item in a mixture?I would also skip the green tea, as any amount of caffeine is a problem for me, esp. late in the day; and the oranges, as I have trouble with citrus apart from lemon juice. Is the idea to add extra antioxidants, bioflavinoids, and C? If so, can you suggest substitutions?Loren> >> > A number of years ago I went to a chiropractor who had conducted his own research on the movement of heavy metals on various weather fronts. His findings were startling because they reflected my own experiences so precisely. One item I remember is that mercury is carried on the leading edge of a front, and

aluminum on the back side (don't know if I'm using the correct terminology, but I haven't dug out the paper). This would explain why my symptoms -- constipation in particular -- get worse in bad weather. > > > > I have recently been able to reduce my Iodoral from 200 to 150 mg due to an endocrine supplement I am taking, but on days like this with the storm clouds lowering, I need to increase the dose again. And add extra magnesium. And it still doesn't help. I am about to give up on going out this evening. Bummer.> > > > Anyone care to weigh in with similar experiences? Or comments?> > > > Loren> >>

[Guest guest]

I would assume that means his heart stopped and he was resuscitated, and then his heart stopped again and he was resuscitated again, and then his heart stopped a third time and he was resuscitated a third time.  My mother used to work in a nursing home and she told me about patients who died and came back several times before they finally passed on.

On Mon, Mar 15, 2010 at 10:29 PM, Deborah H <deborahhall63@...> wrote:

 

How can you die 3 times? (just wondering) >

> This is what Dr Francis says about vitamin C> and the use of ascorbic acid vs 100 l-Ascorbate> > http://www.beyondhealth.com/BH_Products/Supplements/Vit-C_Tabs

> > I know he sells supps, which can be suspect. But I like his books and his products.> > Click on " Vitamin C " if you want to read his report:> > http://www.beyondhealth.com/Articles

> > I wonder if this man who almost died had a strong response to the corn-derived vitamin C. I think probably a food based C is best, like from camu camu berry (which has very high vitamin C content).>

> > > > > > ascorbic acid was taken by a friend of ours, a doctor, who died 3 times from the ascorbic acid.  He is doing better> > now but a good thing he has a wife who knows what to do under the circumstances.  He said he only took about

> > 1/4th tsp a day for 3 months>

[Guest guest]

Vit c can be rough on your stomach. Best to take it with food.JagFrom: Alice Whaley <wiggleduckllc@...>Subject: Re: Re: Metals and weatheriodine Date: Monday, March 15, 2010, 12:40 AM

ascorbic acid was taken by a friend of ours, a doctor, who died 3 times from the ascorbic acid. He is doing betternow but a good thing he has a wife who knows what to do under the circumstances. He said he only took about1/4th tsp a day for 3 months when he started to bleed. I do not know, I only take food products. AliceFrom: ayah591 <ayah591 (DOT) com>To:

iodinegroups (DOT) comSent: Sun, March 14, 2010 8:33:20 PMSubject: Re: Metals and weather

D'Ann,

This is awesome information and potentially life-changing! I will definitely keep this on hand. It never occurred to me that a "bad weather episode" could actually be PREVENTED. It's interesting that you deduced that inflammation was actually the culprit in your sinus trouble before and during a storm. Sinuses are not my issue; I am trying to understand how inflammation applies in my case.

One thing I would change for myself is to use the ascorbic acid/baking soda mix rather than Alka-Seltzer. Just don't use prepared products very much. Any idea what the ratios would be of each item in a mixture?

I would also skip the green tea, as any amount of caffeine is a problem for me, esp. late in the day; and the oranges, as I have trouble with citrus apart from lemon juice. Is the idea to add extra antioxidants, bioflavinoids, and C? If so, can you suggest substitutions?

Loren

> >

> > A number of years ago I went to a chiropractor who had conducted his own research on the movement of heavy metals on various weather fronts. His findings were startling because they reflected my own experiences so precisely. One item I remember is that mercury is carried on the leading edge of a front, and aluminum on the back side (don't know if I'm using the correct terminology, but I haven't dug out the paper). This would explain why my symptoms -- constipation in particular -- get worse in bad weather.

> >

> > I have recently been able to reduce my Iodoral from 200 to 150 mg due to an endocrine supplement I am taking, but on days like this with the storm clouds lowering, I need to increase the dose again. And add extra magnesium. And it still doesn't help. I am about to give up on going out this evening. Bummer.

> >

> > Anyone care to weigh in with similar experiences? Or comments?

> >

> > Loren

> >

>