Guest guest Posted March 21, 2000 Report Share Posted March 21, 2000 , My first question is: would that be infra red, or far infra red (FIR)? I have just been reading about FIR technology and it creates warmth & sweating without heat. It's all pretty amazing in that it is counterintuitive. But, far infra red does just that. And, they have got it to the point that they can make paper, plastic, almost anything & coat it with some substance that make this FIR work. I am looking for sheets of treated paper that you can place under a mattress so you don't get cold on winter nights. One of the reasons I am attracted to this technology is I read about a FIR sauna that doesn't have high heat, but makes you sweat more than one that does. This would be safer for people with fragile health conditions. jim " fedtoledo@... " wrote: > > From: " fedtoledo@... " <FEDTOLEDO@...> > > Does anyone know of the benefits or lack thereof of an Infrared Sauna? I > 'm searching for a local colon therapist, one I talked to yesterday says she > also has a new infrared sauna. > > -- jim@... ICQ:16531148 http://www.doorway.to/madscience http://www.doorway.to/poetry Fear is the opposite of love. -- anony Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 21, 2000 Report Share Posted March 21, 2000 Does anyone know of the benefits or lack thereof of an Infrared Sauna? I 'm searching for a local colon therapist, one I talked to yesterday says she also has a new infrared sauna. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 21, 2000 Report Share Posted March 21, 2000 Dear , An infrared sauna is good for detoxification. However, there aren't any available that I know of that would let you do ozone at the same time, if that is what you are aiming at. Best of Health! Saul Pressman URL: http://www.plasmafire.com email: saul@... Re: Infrared Saunas > From: " fedtoledo@... " <FEDTOLEDO@...> > > > Does anyone know of the benefits or lack thereof of an Infrared Sauna? I > 'm searching for a local colon therapist, one I talked to yesterday says she > also has a new infrared sauna. > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > GET A NEXTCARD VISA, in 30 seconds! Get rates as low as 0.0% > Intro or 9.9% Fixed APR and no hidden fees. Apply NOW! > 1/937/3/_/507288/_/953664474/ > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > OxyPLUS is an unmoderated e-ring dealing with oxidative therapies, and other alternative self- help subjects. > > THERE IS NO MEDICAL ADVICE HERE! > > This list is the 1st Amendment in action. The things you will find here are for information and research purposes only. We are people sharing information we believe in. If you act on ideas found here, you do so at your own risk. Self-help requires intelligence, common sense, and the ability to take responsibility for your own actions. By joining the list you agree to hold yourself FULLY responsible FOR yourself. Do not use any ideas found here without consulting a medical professional, unless you are a researcher or health care provider. > > You can unsubscribe via e-mail by sending A NEW e-mail to the following address - NOT TO THE OXYPLUS LIST! - > DO NOT PUT THIS IN THE SUBJECT LINE or BODY of the message! : > > oxyplus-unsubscribeonelist > > oxyplus-normalonelist - switch your subscription to normal mode. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 28, 2005 Report Share Posted June 28, 2005 > trying to recover from doing infrared saunas 2 years ago > The pain is worse in my joints & body While heat is generally indicated for pain relief it can be contraindicated for deep-seated inflammatory conditions, especially when there is impaired circulation. It's possible that your reaction points to deep inflammation, for which some herbs and an alkalainizing diet could help. > blew it by detoxing too quickly with the infrared Infrared saunas can be too quick-acting and can overwhelm some people. They can also be toxic themselves – most are all-glued together and varnished, and several include " wood products " like hardboard and plywood. Any of these materials can release formaldehyde when heated. Besides being toxic, formaldehyde is a sensitizer. It can induce much greater sensitivity to other toxic substances. If you have any amalgams or are possibly mercury-toxic (all instances of adverse reactions in fir saunas that I've heard of involved mercury toxicity), I'd consider backing off the lipoic acid or trying frequent mini doses. If you've noted increased cognitive problems since starting to use it, I'd stop. After mostly recovering my short term memory after severe mold exposure, I quickly lost it again by taking a few 100 mgs of ALA before sauna. Hope this helps Bob Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 28, 2005 Report Share Posted June 28, 2005 Just wanting to add that when I saw Cheney in 95 he told me not to get overheated, such as in a sauna, because it would cause cytokine production. Helen > > trying to recover from doing infrared saunas 2 years ago > > The pain is worse in my joints & body > > While heat is generally indicated for pain relief it can be > contraindicated for deep-seated inflammatory conditions, especially > when there is impaired circulation. It's possible that your reaction > points to deep inflammation, for which some herbs and an > alkalainizing diet could help. > > > blew it by detoxing too quickly with the infrared > > Infrared saunas can be too quick-acting and can overwhelm some > people. > > They can also be toxic themselves – most are all-glued together and > varnished, and several include " wood products " like hardboard and > plywood. Any of these materials can release formaldehyde when > heated. Besides being toxic, formaldehyde is a sensitizer. It can > induce much greater sensitivity to other toxic substances. > > If you have any amalgams or are possibly mercury-toxic (all > instances of adverse reactions in fir saunas that I've heard of > involved mercury toxicity), I'd consider backing off the lipoic acid > or trying frequent mini doses. If you've noted increased cognitive > problems since starting to use it, I'd stop. After mostly recovering > my short term memory after severe mold exposure, I quickly lost it > again by taking a few 100 mgs of ALA before sauna. > > Hope this helps > > Bob Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 28, 2005 Report Share Posted June 28, 2005 Yes, it is articularly recommended to avoid hot tubs for that reason. BUT honestly even when I had flu like symptoms which were most like from cytokines, I always felt better after the hot tub. I would say people should try for themselves and find out. Doris ----- Original Message ----- From: helen9jora Just wanting to add that when I saw Cheney in 95 he told me not to get overheated, such as in a sauna, because it would cause cytokine Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 28, 2005 Report Share Posted June 28, 2005 I have gotten whacked more than once from being in the sun or taking a hot bath, so I find Cheney's recommendation useful. Helen > Yes, it is articularly recommended to avoid hot tubs for that reason. BUT honestly even when I had flu like symptoms which were most like from cytokines, I always felt better after the hot tub. I would say people should try for themselves and find out. > Doris > ----- Original Message ----- > From: helen9jora > Just wanting to add that when I saw Cheney in 95 he told me not to > get overheated, such as in a sauna, because it would cause cytokine > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 28, 2005 Report Share Posted June 28, 2005 me, too. Some years the summer heat has been intolerable, too. That's why I never really wanted to get involved in using a sauna on a regular basis. I do however like hot tubs and saunas, so I do them ocassionally. Have to go to bed afterward, but no long term bad effect. Interestingly, the infrared lamp (heater) I have, when used on a localized area makes me feel the same kind of all-over sweet warm relaxation that laying out in the sun used to provide- and no side-effects at all. At least it did on my back. I don't guess using it on my knee had that effect. Adrienne Re: infrared saunas I have gotten whacked more than once from being in the sun or taking a hot bath, so I find Cheney's recommendation useful. Helen > Yes, it is articularly recommended to avoid hot tubs for that reason. BUT honestly even when I had flu like symptoms which were most like from cytokines, I always felt better after the hot tub. I would say people should try for themselves and find out. > Doris > ----- Original Message ----- > From: helen9jora > Just wanting to add that when I saw Cheney in 95 he told me not to > get overheated, such as in a sauna, because it would cause cytokine > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 29, 2005 Report Share Posted June 29, 2005 I have FIR heaters I've used for a few years off and on as a sauna. In the past year or so after even a brief session I have huge bags under my eyes the next day. I feel this can't be a good thing so I don't use the heaters often. They sure help body pain, though. My husband has a FIR heater that is used by acupuncturists etc, and that is gret for localized pain, but not for the all over aches. Michele G SF Bay Area > me, too. Some years the summer heat has been intolerable, too. > That's why I never really wanted to get involved in using a sauna on a regular basis. I do however like hot tubs and saunas, so I do them ocassionally. Have to go to bed afterward, but no long term bad effect. > > Interestingly, the infrared lamp (heater) I have, when used on a localized area makes me feel the same kind of all-over sweet warm relaxation that laying out in the sun used to provide- and no side-effects at all. At least it did on my back. I don't guess using it on my knee had that effect. > Adrienne > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 29, 2005 Report Share Posted June 29, 2005 I wonder if this goes back to different phases of the illness. For a long time I felt lousy in the sun, then it switched and I felt better in the sun. Or it could be just a side effect of something that goes out of whack and isn't consistent among us. Doris ----- Original Message ----- I have gotten whacked more than once from being in the sun or taking a hot bath, so I find Cheney's recommendation useful. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 27, 2010 Report Share Posted October 27, 2010 Can someone explain to me the difference between infrared sauna and the kind of sauna I'd find in a health club? Why is infrared specifically recommended? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 27, 2010 Report Share Posted October 27, 2010 The old steam saunas get hotter, & are not good for some classes of people -- people with heart disease, for example. (I forget all the contraindications.)It is said that the far infrared saunas mobilize more toxins, & the dry air enables you to sweat the toxins out better. They are also safe for people who should not use a steam sauna.AnneOn Oct 27, 2010, at 2:31 PM, H wrote: Can someone explain to me the difference between infrared sauna and the kind of sauna I'd find in a health club? Why is infrared specifically recommended? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 27, 2010 Report Share Posted October 27, 2010 In addition to the steam and heat issues, a way of thinking about it is infrared saunas are like old school saunas on steroids. It's just an improvement in technology that is very smart. Hope to own one some day. --V At 11:04 PM 10/27/2010, you wrote: >The old steam saunas get hotter, & are not good for some classes of people >-- people with heart disease, for example. (I forget all the >contraindications.) > >It is said that the far infrared saunas mobilize more toxins, & the dry >air enables you to sweat the toxins out better. They are also safe for >people who should not use a steam sauna. > >Anne > > >On Oct 27, 2010, at 2:31 PM, H wrote: > >> >> >>Can someone explain to me the difference between infrared sauna and the >>kind of sauna I'd find in a health club? Why is infrared specifically >>recommended? >> >> ~~~ There is no way to peace; peace is the way ~~~~ --A.J. Muste Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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