Re: Re: Mag and leg cramps/sunburn

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I used to burn like crazy until I started supplementing with Omega-3 fatty acids (both fish oil, & flaxseed oil in a modified Budwig smoothie.) I have known others who reported that Omega-3s reduced their sensitivity to the sun. Have you made other changes besides iodine?AnneOn Jan 4, 2010, at 7:50 PM, Lise Brown wrote: Hi, Just a bit off topic. Anyone found that taking Iodine has made them more sensitive to the sun? I never used to burn and had olive skin from being in the sun so much. Since taking Iodine I burn really easily from being out for a small amount of time. I have a really bad red belly and legs from being out on the beach yesterday. This has never been an issue before, right from when I was young? I have never taken vit d supplements ever. Lise From: coloredoctave <joanlulich >iodine Sent: Tue, January 5, 2010 10:34:14 AMSubject: Re: Mag and leg cramps You'll have to purchase it and part 3 in order to read them. Part II is called The Central Roles of Hormones and Natural Light. Here are some highlights.http://www.wellbein gjournal. com/health/ Vol.-15-No. 3/"A significant amount of research suggests that an additional way to optimize hormonal levels may be to increase one's exposure to natural "full spectrum" light.""Light received by the eyes also has a highly beneficial effect upon the formation of strong teeth and bones."By eliminating ultraviolet light we weaken calcium absorption and adversely affect numerous other health functions, including strengthening the immune system and protecting against cancer.""The present practice of blocking all or most ultraviolet to the eyes may actually expose the eyes to more harmful light.""It appears that most men, women, and children do not require the high levels of calcium recommended in the present RDA."Part III is called "Individual Variations in Calcium Need, and the Roles of Other Nutrients"http://www.wellbein gjournal. com/health/ Vol.-15-No. -4/Highlights in boxes:"Some of the best epidemiological evidence suggests that for most people high consumption of milk product and calcium probably contributes significantly to osteoporosis. ""Addictive allergies rob the bones of calcium in order to overcome the acidity and maintain a constant level of calcium in the blood."There's more. It's great stuff!Joan> Looking for part 2.> Bruce>

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Only Iodine, Magnesium and Selenium. I don't know if I am deficient in omegas? I have become dairy and gluten free in that time, but I can't see that being the problem? I am really worried at how badly I burn now. I have never been a fan of sunscreen, with my background being in cosmetics and my knowledge of ingredients.I don't go and sun-bake, I just find if I sit out in the sun for small periods of time I go red raw. This has never happened, even when I was a kid. People always commented that I had olive skin because I never had an issue being outdoors. I do now and I thought it must be the Iodine?

Lise

From: Anne Seals <anneseals@...>iodine Sent: Tue, January 5, 2010 3:00:06 PMSubject: Re: Re: Mag and leg cramps/sunburn

I used to burn like crazy until I started supplementing with Omega-3 fatty acids (both fish oil, & flaxseed oil in a modified Budwig smoothie.) I have known others who reported that Omega-3s reduced their sensitivity to the sun. Have you made other changes besides iodine?

Anne

On Jan 4, 2010, at 7:50 PM, Lise Brown wrote:

Hi,

Just a bit off topic. Anyone found that taking Iodine has made them more sensitive to the sun? I never used to burn and had olive skin from being in the sun so much. Since taking Iodine I burn really easily from being out for a small amount of time. I have a really bad red belly and legs from being out on the beach yesterday. This has never been an issue before, right from when I was young? I have never taken vit d supplements ever.

Lise

From: coloredoctave <joanlulich (DOT) com>iodinegroups (DOT) comSent: Tue, January 5, 2010 10:34:14 AMSubject: Re: Mag and leg cramps

You'll have to purchase it and part 3 in order to read them. Part II is called The Central Roles of Hormones and Natural Light. Here are some highlights.http://www.wellbein gjournal. com/health/ Vol.-15-No. 3/"A significant amount of research suggests that an additional way to optimize hormonal levels may be to increase one's exposure to natural "full spectrum" light.""Light received by the eyes also has a highly beneficial effect upon the formation of strong teeth and bones."By eliminating ultraviolet light we weaken calcium absorption and adversely affect numerous other health functions, including strengthening the immune system and protecting against cancer.""The present practice of blocking all or most ultraviolet to the eyes may actually expose the eyes to more harmful light.""It appears that most men, women,

and children do not require the high levels of calcium recommended in the present RDA."Part III is called "Individual Variations in Calcium Need, and the Roles of Other Nutrients"http://www.wellbein gjournal. com/health/ Vol.-15-No. -4/Highlights in boxes:"Some of the best epidemiological evidence suggests that for most people high consumption of milk product and calcium probably contributes significantly to osteoporosis. ""Addictive allergies rob the bones of calcium in order to overcome the acidity and maintain a constant level of calcium in the blood."There's more. It's great stuff!Joan> Looking for part 2.> Bruce>

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" reports we have seen from people writing in concerning their inability to

achieve a sunburn when sufficient Iodine is present. In our brief exchange

he (Abraham) mentioned that 25% of the body's iodine is present in the skin,

about 30% of it goes to the fat, and the balance resides in muscles and

organs. He also mentioned that iodine stimulates melanin production in the

skin, which is believed to be the reason why sunburned skin is difficult to

achieve in those having adequate iodine.:

Everything I have read indicates the above. Odd, why will be found out

though just is a puzzle right now...

Bruce

Re: Re: Mag and leg cramps/sunburn

Only Iodine, Magnesium and Selenium. I don't know if I am deficient in

omegas? I have become dairy and gluten free in that time, but I can't see

that being the problem? I am really worried at how badly I burn now. I have

never been a fan of sunscreen, with my background being in cosmetics and my

knowledge of ingredients.

I don't go and sun-bake, I just find if I sit out in the sun for small

periods of time I go red raw. This has never happened, even when I was a

kid. People always commented that I had olive skin because I never had an

issue being outdoors. I do now and I thought it must be the Iodine?

Lise

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Vitamin B deficiency? Can cause that,

Bruce

----- Original Message -----

From: Lise Brown

Only Iodine, Magnesium and Selenium. I don't know if I am deficient in omegas? I have become dairy and gluten free in that time, but I can't see that being the problem? I am really worried at how badly I burn now. I have never been a fan of sunscreen, with my background being in cosmetics and my knowledge of ingredients.I don't go and sun-bake, I just find if I sit out in the sun for small periods of time I go red raw. This has never happened, even when I was a kid.

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Thats weird as I never supplemented with iodine when I had no issue with the sun. Worth thinking that through though.

Thanks Lise

From: Bruce <bruce@...>iodine Sent: Tue, January 5, 2010 5:24:02 PMSubject: Re: Re: Mag and leg cramps/sunburn

"reports we have seen from people writing in concerning their inability to achieve a sunburn when sufficient Iodine is present. In our brief exchange he (Abraham) mentioned that 25% of the body's iodine is present in the skin, about 30% of it goes to the fat, and the balance resides in muscles and organs. He also mentioned that iodine stimulates melanin production in the skin, which is believed to be the reason why sunburned skin is difficult to achieve in those having adequate iodine.:Everything I have read indicates the above. Odd, why will be found out though just is a puzzle right now...Bruce Re: Re: Mag and leg cramps/sunburnOnly

Iodine, Magnesium and Selenium. I don't know if I am deficient in omegas? I have become dairy and gluten free in that time, but I can't see that being the problem? I am really worried at how badly I burn now. I have never been a fan of sunscreen, with my background being in cosmetics and my knowledge of ingredients.I don't go and sun-bake, I just find if I sit out in the sun for small periods of time I go red raw. This has never happened, even when I was a kid. People always commented that I had olive skin because I never had an issue being outdoors. I do now and I thought it must be the Iodine?Lise

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Darker skinned people with lots of melanin usually

have problems with Vit D, and less with Vit

B(folate). Lighter skinned people with less

melanin can produce more Vit D, but have problems

with Vit B. (folate), or that's how I understand it.

Bethann

If we could sell our experiences for what they

cost us, we'd all be millionaires.

Abigail Van Buren

Bruce wrote:

>

>

> 

>

> Vitamin B deficiency? Can cause that,

>

> Bruce

>

> ----- Original Message -----

> *From:* Lise Brown <mailto:lise.brown@...>

>

>

>

> Only Iodine, Magnesium and Selenium. I don't know if I am deficient

> in omegas? I have become dairy and gluten free in that time, but I

> can't see that being the problem? I am really worried at how badly I

> burn now. I have never been a fan of sunscreen, with my background

> being in cosmetics and my knowledge of ingredients.

> I don't go and sun-bake, I just find if I sit out in the sun for

> small periods of time I go red raw. This has never happened, even

> when I was a kid.

>

>

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400-800?

Isn't that rather high. I have seen normall recommendation 200, some rarely

have said up to 400, but I never see over that being recommended. Any

research on the high amounts? Sel gets toxic.

I have thought higher 'may' be good, just haven't seem the data.

thanks

Bruce

----- Original Message -----

From: rockchalkmom2

If you're not taking B vitamins, you need to--that is part of the iodine

protocol.

Also, iodine can increase oxidation, so if you are not getting enough

antioxidants, I would think that could contribute to the burning. I have

read of people taking high doses of vitamin C as well as E to prevent

burning. You might consider taking at least 400-800 mcg of selenomethionine

(for the selenium).

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Coconut oil also improves the fatty acid profile.AnneOn Jan 5, 2010, at 9:55 AM, Karin wrote: I've read that ingesting enough coconut oil will decrease photo sensitivity. You might try adding that instead of decreasing iodine. It would be a good thing no matter what: ) Karin > > Vitamin B deficiency? Can cause that, > > Bruce > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Lise Brown > > > > Only Iodine, Magnesium and Selenium. I don't know if I am deficient in omegas? I have become dairy and gluten free in that time, but I can't see that being the problem? I am really worried at how badly I burn now. I have never been a fan of sunscreen, with my background being in cosmetics and my knowledge of ingredients. > I don't go and sun-bake, I just find if I sit out in the sun for small periods of time I go red raw. This has never happened, even when I was a kid. >

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Ya know that could be it, I know on some

medications you get photosensitive. Lie

antidepressants and others. I'm wondering now if

it's the antidepressants with fluoride in them? So

if someone is still detoxing fluoride that may be

the cause?

Bathhann

If we could sell our experiences for what they

cost us, we'd all be millionaires.

Abigail Van Buren

barbiec1953 wrote:

>

>

> * I cook with Living Tree Community Foods

> Raw Coconut oil, put Tropical Traditions

> Coconut Cream Concentrate in my smoothies

> (room temperature as cold/frozen ingredients

> will make the coconut cream solidify) and

> use the Raw Coconut Oil on my skin instead

> of all sorts of lotions and potions. I am

> blue-eyed and fair skinned. I used to burn

> very easily. Now, every year when it starts

> to get warm I go out in the sun and expose

> as much of my body as possible starting out

> for ten minutes on each side working up to

> 20 minutes on each side. I do not burn

> anymore. I bought some Masters

> Mineral sunscreen in case I have to be

> out in the sun for inordinate amount of

> time but have not had a chance to actually

> use it yet. My husband is Italian and his

> skin used to darken as soon as the weather

> started to warm up. Now, at 55 years of

> age his skin is much paler then it used to

> be and his skin does get a little red now

> before he darkens up so it could be that

> your skin has changed. Maybe the iodine

> is detoxing something that is making your

> skin sensitive. Maybe you should go back

> and review the Iodine Protocol and make

> sure you are taking all the essential co-

> factors.You need to be patient as you

> become a little detective to try and

> figure out why your skin has changed

> and for the time being try the

> Masters Mineral sunscreen... becoming

> red raw can't be a good thing !

>

> *

> > >

> > > Vitamin B deficiency? Can cause that,

> > >

> > > Bruce

> > > ----- Original Message -----

> > > From: Lise Brown

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > Only Iodine, Magnesium and Selenium. I don't know if I am deficient

> in omegas? I have become dairy and gluten free in that time, but I can't

> see that being the problem? I am really worried at how badly I burn now.

> I have never been a fan of sunscreen, with my background being in

> cosmetics and my knowledge of ingredients.

> > > I don't go and sun-bake, I just find if I sit out in the sun for

> small periods of time I go red raw. This has never happened, even when I

> was a kid.

> > >

> >

>

>

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i know with my bp meds, i am told to stay out of the sun. didn't know

why but that could be the reason..so yeah, lots of meds can cause that

problem.

diane, near philly, pa

On Jan 5, 2010, at 8:28 PM, YardBirdMail wrote:

> Ya know that could be it, I know on some

> medications you get photosensitive. Lie

> antidepressants and others. I'm wondering now if

> it's the antidepressants with fluoride in them? So

> if someone is still detoxing fluoride that may be

> the cause?

>

> Bathhann

>

> If we could sell our experiences for what they

> cost us, we'd all be millionaires.

> Abigail Van Buren

>

> barbiec1953 wrote:

>>

>>

>> *

[Guest guest]

Absolutely. Thanks so much. I have heard about coconut oil from a raw food book I read. She also said you can put it externally and eat it as well. Will see if I can order that sunscreen online, I doubt it will be avaiable in Austalia. Mineral oil is not good for you though, either. I know getting red raw is not the best also.

Lise

From: barbiec1953 <bcentofante@...>iodine Sent: Wed, January 6, 2010 10:44:01 AMSubject: Re: Mag and leg cramps/sunburn

I cook with Living Tree Community FoodsRaw Coconut oil, put Tropical TraditionsCoconut Cream Concentrate in my smoothies(room temperature as cold/frozen ingredientswill make the coconut cream solidify) anduse the Raw Coconut Oil on my skin insteadof all sorts of lotions and potions. I amblue-eyed and fair skinned. I used to burn very easily. Now, every year when it starts to get warm I go out in the sun and expose as much of my body as possible starting outfor ten minutes on each side working up to20 minutes on each side. I do not burn anymore. I bought some MastersMineral sunscreen in case I have to beout in the sun for inordinate amount of time but have not had a chance to actuallyuse it yet. My husband is Italian and hisskin used to darken as soon as the weatherstarted to warm up. Now, at 55 years ofage

his skin is much paler then it used tobe and his skin does get a little red nowbefore he darkens up so it could be that your skin has changed. Maybe the iodineis detoxing something that is making yourskin sensitive. Maybe you should go backand review the Iodine Protocol and makesure you are taking all the essential co-factors.You need to be patient as youbecome a little detective to try and figure out why your skin has changedand for the time being try the Masters Mineral sunscreen... becomingred raw can't be a good thing !> >> > Vitamin B deficiency? Can cause that,> > > > Bruce> > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: Lise Brown > > > > > > > > Only Iodine, Magnesium and Selenium. I don't know if I am deficient in omegas? I have become dairy and gluten free in that time, but I can't see that being the problem? I am really worried at how badly I burn now. I have never been a fan of sunscreen, with my background being in cosmetics and my knowledge of ingredients.> > I don't go and sun-bake, I just find if I sit out in the sun for small periods of time I go red raw. This has never happened, even when I was a kid.> >>

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from IllinoisFrom: Lise Brown <lise.brown@...>iodine Sent: Tue, January 5, 2010 10:00:05 PMSubject: Re: Re: Mag and leg cramps/sunburn

Absolutely. Thanks so much. I have heard about coconut oil from a raw food book I read. She also said you can put it externally and eat it as well. Will see if I can order that sunscreen online, I doubt it will be avaiable in Austalia. Mineral oil is not good for you though, either. I know getting red raw is not the best also.

LiseI belong to a group for gluten and dairy free, corn free, sugar free, etc.basically what they call crap free, and a lot of the group members use coconut oil to replace other oils in their recipes. It is high in trans fat but otherwise good for you. from Illinois_

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> use coconut oil to replace other oils in their recipes. It is high in

> trans fat but otherwise good for you.

> from Illinois

Hi new here just learning but did want to correct this. Coconut oil does

not have any trans fats in it.

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--A.J. Muste

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"Inorganic selenium, I wouldn't go above 200 mcg."

Preferrably not use that at all yes. meth or the cysteine version are definitely better.

The higher doses here are interesting, since I read in many places that selenium is needed with iodine

I was wondering about higher levels with more iodine.

The report below of needing more selenium than 200mcg's when they thyroid swells is something that definitely should be looked into

by Dr's Abraham, Brownsteine et al. There have been a number of reports of that happening here. It seems logical as well.

Bruce

----- Original Message -----

From: rockchalkmom2

There are several people in another forum that discovered through trial and error that they needed more selenium (selenomethionine) with higher dosages of iodine, and they did not report any adverse effects. One woman reported that she needed 800 mcg of selenomethionine to make her goiter shrink when she was taking iodine (without sufficient selenium, the iodine made her thyroid swell). While these reports are purely anecdotal, it seems like it would be fine for people to experiment with taking more than 200 mcg of l-selenomethonine while on iodine.

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Sorry I was told it was. Okay, thanks for pointing that out. from IllinoisFrom: Baker <vbaker@...>iodine Sent: Wed, January 6, 2010 4:11:11 PMSubject: Re: Re:

Mag and leg cramps/sunburn

> use coconut oil to replace other oils in their recipes. It is high in

> trans fat but otherwise good for you.

> from Illinois

Hi new here just learning but did want to correct this. Coconut oil does

not have any trans fats in it.

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--A.J. Muste

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What forum please Carol?

Or maybe a link?

Thank you:)

Bethann

If we could sell our experiences for what they

cost us, we'd all be millionaires.

Abigail Van Buren

rockchalkmom2 wrote:

>

>

> Selenium toxicity all depends on the form. Inorganic selenium, I

> wouldn't go above 200 mcg. I recommended l-selenomethonine, an organic

> form that will not build up toxicity like some other forms.

>

> Here's an article on selenium: http://www.healthy. net/scr/Article.

> aspx?Id=577 & xcntr=1

> <http://www.healthy.net/scr/Article.aspx?Id=577 & xcntr=1>

> . If you scroll down toward the bottom, there is a section on daily

> intake and safety. The author says that 200 mcg is safe and effective

> but also talks about some cultures' diets that naturally contain much

> more selenium without adverse effects. In addition, it appears that

> symptoms of toxicity are reversible. One symptom would be strong

> garlic-like smell.

>

> There are several people in another forum that discovered through trial

> and error that they needed more selenium (selenomethionine) with higher

> dosages of iodine, and they did not report any adverse effects. One

> woman reported that she needed 800 mcg of selenomethionine to make her

> goiter shrink when she was taking iodine (without sufficient selenium,

> the iodine made her thyroid swell). While these reports are purely

> anecdotal, it seems like it would be fine for people to experiment with

> taking more than 200 mcg of l-selenomethonine while on iodine.

>

> The original poster who was asking about sunburn could gain even more

> benefit by taking vitamin E and vitamin C (a timed-release or esterified

> version might be more tolerable).

>

> Carol

>

>

> >

> > 400-800?

> > Isn't that rather high. I have seen normall recommendation 200, some

> rarely

> > have said up to 400, but I never see over that being recommended. Any

> > research on the high amounts? Sel gets toxic.

> > I have thought higher 'may' be good, just haven't seem the data.

> >

> > thanks

> > Bruce

> > ----- Original Message -----

> > From: rockchalkmom2

> >

> > If you're not taking B vitamins, you need to--that is part of the iodine

> > protocol.

> >

> > Also, iodine can increase oxidation, so if you are not getting enough

> > antioxidants, I would think that could contribute to the burning. I have

> > read of people taking high doses of vitamin C as well as E to prevent

> > burning. You might consider taking at least 400-800 mcg of

> selenomethionine

> > (for the selenium).

> >

>

>

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Grassfed dairy products are high in Omega 3s. Grain fed dairy is high in Omega 6s.AnneOn Jan 6, 2010, at 4:36 PM, freshfacejoe wrote: Lise: This is only my experience so take it for what it's worth, but your situation really resonates with me. I used to burn horribly from my teen years on. I just remember one day being like 14 or so and realizing I had to severely cut my time in the sun because my body couldn't handle it anymore like when I was a kid. Was tired of the really bad burns. This went on for 15 years or so, and I look back on it and I can't believe I spent so many beautiful summer days indoors in my teens and 20s and thought that was perfectly normal. And the times I did go out, I would slather myself in sunscreen and still end up getting burned. My health drastically declined at the age of 29 (mostly stomach) and after 5 long years (I was really brainwashed) of riding the mainstream medical joke carousel didn't help me a single bit, I decided to go the natural route. I was kind of clueless for another 18 months after that, hitting health stores and buying up vitamins and cheap supplements and hoping for a quick fix. The biggest stumbling block in my life back then was my complete and total enslavement to "convenience". I just wanted to go to a store, buy something and have that solve all my problems. Dumb. Then in fall 2005 I finally made the first tentative commitment to really change my diet. I started drinking raw milk and kefir made from raw milk from a local farmer in winter 2005-06 to help with grueling stomach problems and the first thing I noticed when summer came around was that I could stand being out in the sun again. I wanted to be out in the sun again. I went from ALWAYS burning right away to tanning that first summer. I can't emphasize enough how astonishing this was to me after all those years. "Whoa! This is new." And I just knew from listening to my body that the sun wasn't going to be a problem anymore. That was the first change in my health situation in years and from that point on I started eating all these other different natural and fermented foods and whatnot and I eventually found my way here with iodine. But I was on nothing but raw milk/kefir when this change occurred. I had completely eliminated fast food and other obvious garbage, so my diet was cleaner at the time, but it was still far from ideal. I guess I was eating a lot of farm-fresh eggs as well, but other than that, nothing that was particularly healthy. I went from avoiding the sun to loving the sun in that one summer. I am kind of a Vitamin D fanatic these days (making up for lost time, I guess) and I make it a point to exercise outdoors shirtless (just shorts, socks and sneakers) between noon and 2 pm for at least an hour pretty much every day during the summer months. I usually shoot hoops on the blacktop with the summer sun beating down on me. Feels great, the hotter the better. No sunscreen, no worries. Been doing this faithfully the past 3 years. And I still drink a ton of raw milk. When I golf with my friends in the summer (which I probably shouldn't do due to all the chemicals soaking the golf courses, man it is so bad on some of them and I do feel sick sometimes; the iodine really helped with that this past fall) and they all drench themselves in sunscreen on the first tee, I just stand there and tell them, "Hey, I drink my sunscreen." Still not sure why, but this really happened. Maybe it was the Omega 3s? I grew up on the Standard American Diet, God knows my body had probably been severely lacking in those for decades. - Joe > > > > > > Vitamin B deficiency? Can cause that, > > > > > > Bruce > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: Lise Brown > > > > > > > > > > > > Only Iodine, Magnesium and Selenium. I don't know if I am deficient in omegas? I have become dairy and gluten free in that time, but I can't see that being the problem? I am really worried at how badly I burn now. I have never been a fan of sunscreen, with my background being in cosmetics and my knowledge of ingredients. > > > I don't go and sun-bake, I just find if I sit out in the sun for small periods of time I go red raw. This has never happened, even when I was a kid. > > > > > >

[Guest guest]

one neat thing about coconut oil is that it does contain medium chain

triglycerides.

These metabolize to ketones, a preferred brain food.

Recent studies show ketones affect Alzheimer and dementia patients in

a positive way.

Work is being done now to create a drug derived from coconut oil for

this purpose.

Dr Newport has shown progress with her husband using coconut oil and

MCT oil.

Chuck

On a Maternity Room door:

" Push. Push. Push. "

On 1/6/2010 7:34:48 PM, ND (blessedark2009@...) wrote:

> Sorry I was told it was. Okay, thanks for pointing that out.

>

> from Illinois

>

>

>

>

> -------------------------------------------------------------------------

> From: Baker <vbaker@...>

> iodine

> Sent: Wed, January 6, 2010 4:11:11 PM

> Subject: Re: Re: Mag and leg cramps/sunburn

>

>

>

> > use coconut oil to replace other oils in their recipes. It is high in

> > trans fat but otherwise good for you.

> > from Illinois

>

> Hi new here just learning but did want to correct this. Coconut oil does

> not have any trans fats in it.

>

> --

>

> ~~~ There is no way to peace; peace is the way ~~~~

> --A.J. Muste

>

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Sounds great, much better than the ones available in Australia.

Will look it up on the net now.

Thanks

Lise

From: barbiec1953 <bcentofante@...>iodine Sent: Thu, January 7, 2010 3:29:18 AMSubject: Re: Mag and leg cramps/sunburn

I am with you... I would neverput mineral oil on my skin !www.johnmasters. com Masters SunscreenSPF 30does not contain nanoparticlesReef FriendlyBiodegradableContains:Titanium Dioxide for UV resistanceZinc Oxide for UVA and UVB absorptionShea Butter for hydrationGreen Tea for its anti-bacterialand anti-oxident propertiesJoboba for moisturizing and restoration of natural PHIt does not leave a white residueon your skin... on me, it leaves avery pretty sheen.> > >> > > Vitamin B deficiency? Can cause that,> > > > > > Bruce> > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: Lise Brown > > > > > > > > > > > > Only Iodine, Magnesium and Selenium. I don't know if I am deficient in omegas? I have become dairy and gluten free in that time, but I can't see that being the

problem? I am really worried at how badly I burn now. I have never been a fan of sunscreen, with my background being in cosmetics and my knowledge of ingredients.> > > I don't go and sun-bake, I just find if I sit out in the sun for small periods of time I go red raw. This has never happened, even when I was a kid.> > >> >>

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Wow,

You know, I have always had a diet that was really high in dairy, I LOVE dairy, cheese, yoghurt.....

I stopped after we discovered that my daughter had a severe issue with it. I later discovered a lump in my breast and found the book 'Your Life In Your Hands' By Professor Jane Plant. Amazing book, and I would recommend it to anyone, not just breast cancer sufferers. She also recommends Iodine as an essential nutrient to cancer recovery. But after reading this book and many other articles since, I would never have dairy raw or otherwise again.

But you have made an interesting point that I just may be missing stuff from cutting that out, I wonder what it is, may be it is the Omegas?

Lise

From: freshfacejoe <freshfacejoe@...>iodine Sent: Thu, January 7, 2010 10:36:58 AMSubject: Re: Mag and leg cramps/sunburn

Lise: This is only my experience so take it for what it's worth, but your situation really resonates with me. I used to burn horribly from my teen years on. I just remember one day being like 14 or so and realizing I had to severely cut my time in the sun because my body couldn't handle it anymore like when I was a kid. Was tired of the really bad burns. This went on for 15 years or so, and I look back on it and I can't believe I spent so many beautiful summer days indoors in my teens and 20s and thought that was perfectly normal. And the times I did go out, I would slather myself in sunscreen and still end up getting burned.My health drastically declined at the age of 29 (mostly stomach) and after 5 long years (I was really brainwashed) of riding the mainstream medical joke carousel didn't help me a single bit, I decided to go the natural route. I was kind of clueless for another 18 months after that, hitting health stores and buying

up vitamins and cheap supplements and hoping for a quick fix. The biggest stumbling block in my life back then was my complete and total enslavement to "convenience" . I just wanted to go to a store, buy something and have that solve all my problems. Dumb.Then in fall 2005 I finally made the first tentative commitment to really change my diet. I started drinking raw milk and kefir made from raw milk from a local farmer in winter 2005-06 to help with grueling stomach problems and the first thing I noticed when summer came around was that I could stand being out in the sun again. I wanted to be out in the sun again. I went from ALWAYS burning right away to tanning that first summer. I can't emphasize enough how astonishing this was to me after all those years. "Whoa! This is new." And I just knew from listening to my body that the sun wasn't going to be a problem anymore.That was the first change in my health situation in years and from

that point on I started eating all these other different natural and fermented foods and whatnot and I eventually found my way here with iodine. But I was on nothing but raw milk/kefir when this change occurred. I had completely eliminated fast food and other obvious garbage, so my diet was cleaner at the time, but it was still far from ideal. I guess I was eating a lot of farm-fresh eggs as well, but other than that, nothing that was particularly healthy.I went from avoiding the sun to loving the sun in that one summer.I am kind of a Vitamin D fanatic these days (making up for lost time, I guess) and I make it a point to exercise outdoors shirtless (just shorts, socks and sneakers) between noon and 2 pm for at least an hour pretty much every day during the summer months. I usually shoot hoops on the blacktop with the summer sun beating down on me. Feels great, the hotter the better. No sunscreen, no worries. Been doing this faithfully

the past 3 years. And I still drink a ton of raw milk.When I golf with my friends in the summer (which I probably shouldn't do due to all the chemicals soaking the golf courses, man it is so bad on some of them and I do feel sick sometimes; the iodine really helped with that this past fall) and they all drench themselves in sunscreen on the first tee, I just stand there and tell them, "Hey, I drink my sunscreen."Still not sure why, but this really happened. Maybe it was the Omega 3s? I grew up on the Standard American Diet, God knows my body had probably been severely lacking in those for decades.- Joe> > >> > > Vitamin B deficiency? Can cause that,> > > > > > Bruce> > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: Lise Brown

> > > > > > > > > > > > Only Iodine, Magnesium and Selenium. I don't know if I am deficient in omegas? I have become dairy and gluten free in that time, but I can't see that being the problem? I am really worried at how badly I burn now. I have never been a fan of sunscreen, with my background being in cosmetics and my knowledge of ingredients.> > > I don't go and sun-bake, I just find if I sit out in the sun for small periods of time I go red raw. This has never happened, even when I was a kid.> > >> >>

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Hi,

I really would be writing for a long time. I would really recommend reading 'Your Life In Your Hands" By Professor Jane Plant as she goes into all the technical stuff as well as a whole lot of other stuff about it. I will say a few things though, I can't remember all the techno jargon. Basically a human is not designed to have milk from another mammal. Mammals milk is a hormone cocktail designed to make a mammal grow really big and really fast. Milk from another mammal is made perfectly to suit the species it is designed for. The composition of chemical and hormonal ingredients are dangerous in different quantities and combinations. Cows milk is designed to make a calf grow into a cow or bull. If we look into cancer we don't want to have anything that encourages anything to hormonally grow big and fast. Breast cancer is a hormonal cancer.

Professor Jane is a scientist who traveled the world with a team of scientists helping solve health issues in remote areas.. They where instrumental in helping find out if health issues were genetic or environmentally responsible in certain places. The team of scientists that she worked with had access to research all over the world. Through her travels to remote parts of china where breast cancer is almost non existent, she found that it was not genetic. People from those areas that move to western countries develop breast cancer at the same rate as westerners. If they move back to these remote areas the rate of breast cancer then reduces back to almost nil. This, after much study and research, and also almost dying herself from breast cancer, she found that it was a lot of factors. One major one was dairy in the western diet.

I have since gone on to read much more on this topic from many different sources and after reading them critically I can say I do not want my family to have dairy again, ever. Professor Jane also mentions as part of her healing regime, that she highly recommends Iodine. She says to have it as Icelandic kelp as the waters around there are not as polluted. When I met her in London and talked to her about using Lugols instead, she was very interested, especially in the amounts I was having.

I think that this is an essential read as a first step to healing, not only from breast cancer but for also thyroid issues. After reading about the link between the thyroid and the breasts and breast cancer with iodine deficiency, I am so glad I have a wider understanding of the bigger links to these issues.And no I have never had breast cancer, only fibrocystic breast disease since I was a teenager.

Lise

From: <lizbon@...>iodine Sent: Fri, January 8, 2010 10:39:03 AMSubject: RE: Re: Mag and leg cramps/sunburn

Lise,

Could you let us know about the dangers of dairy? I’d heard about it before but don’t know the idea behind it.

Thanks,

Liz

From: iodinegroups (DOT) com [mailto: iodinegroups (DOT) com ] On Behalf Of Lise BrownSent: Thursday, January 07, 2010 1:18 AMiodinegroups (DOT) comSubject: Re: Re: Mag and leg cramps/sunburn

Wow,

You know, I have always had a diet that was really high in dairy, I LOVE dairy, cheese, yoghurt.....

I stopped after we discovered that my daughter had a severe issue with it. I later discovered a lump in my breast and found the book 'Your Life In Your Hands' By Professor Jane Plant. Amazing book, and I would recommend it to anyone, not just breast cancer sufferers. She also recommends Iodine as an essential nutrient to cancer recovery. But after reading this book and many other articles since, I would never have dairy raw or otherwise again.

But you have made an interesting point that I just may be missing stuff from cutting that out, I wonder what it is, may be it is the Omegas?

Lise

From: freshfacejoe <freshfacejoe>iodinegroups (DOT) comSent: Thu, January 7, 2010 10:36:58 AMSubject: Re: Mag and leg cramps/sunburn

Lise: This is only my experience so take it for what it's worth, but your situation really resonates with me. I used to burn horribly from my teen years on. I just remember one day being like 14 or so and realizing I had to severely cut my time in the sun because my body couldn't handle it anymore like when I was a kid. Was tired of the really bad burns. This went on for 15 years or so, and I look back on it and I can't believe I spent so many beautiful summer days indoors in my teens and 20s and thought that was perfectly normal. And the times I did go out, I would slather myself in sunscreen and still end up getting burned.My health drastically declined at the age of 29 (mostly stomach) and after 5 long years (I was really brainwashed) of riding the mainstream medical joke carousel didn't help me a single bit, I decided to go the natural route. I was kind of clueless

for another 18 months after that, hitting health stores and buying up vitamins and cheap supplements and hoping for a quick fix. The biggest stumbling block in my life back then was my complete and total enslavement to "convenience" . I just wanted to go to a store, buy something and have that solve all my problems. Dumb.Then in fall 2005 I finally made the first tentative commitment to really change my diet. I started drinking raw milk and kefir made from raw milk from a local farmer in winter 2005-06 to help with grueling stomach problems and the first thing I noticed when summer came around was that I could stand being out in the sun again. I wanted to be out in the sun again. I went from ALWAYS burning right away to tanning that first summer. I can't emphasize enough how astonishing this was to me after all those years. "Whoa! This is new." And I just knew from listening to my body that the sun wasn't going to be a problem

anymore.That was the first change in my health situation in years and from that point on I started eating all these other different natural and fermented foods and whatnot and I eventually found my way here with iodine. But I was on nothing but raw milk/kefir when this change occurred. I had completely eliminated fast food and other obvious garbage, so my diet was cleaner at the time, but it was still far from ideal. I guess I was eating a lot of farm-fresh eggs as well, but other than that, nothing that was particularly healthy.I went from avoiding the sun to loving the sun in that one summer.I am kind of a Vitamin D fanatic these days (making up for lost time, I guess) and I make it a point to exercise outdoors shirtless (just shorts, socks and sneakers) between noon and 2 pm for at least an hour pretty much every day during the summer months. I usually shoot hoops on the blacktop with the summer sun beating down on me. Feels

great, the hotter the better. No sunscreen, no worries. Been doing this faithfully the past 3 years. And I still drink a ton of raw milk.When I golf with my friends in the summer (which I probably shouldn't do due to all the chemicals soaking the golf courses, man it is so bad on some of them and I do feel sick sometimes; the iodine really helped with that this past fall) and they all drench themselves in sunscreen on the first tee, I just stand there and tell them, "Hey, I drink my sunscreen."Still not sure why, but this really happened. Maybe it was the Omega 3s? I grew up on the Standard American Diet, God knows my body had probably been severely lacking in those for decades.- Joe> > >> > > Vitamin B deficiency? Can cause that,> > > > > >

Bruce> > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: Lise Brown > > > > > > > > > > > > Only Iodine, Magnesium and Selenium. I don't know if I am deficient in omegas? I have become dairy and gluten free in that time, but I can't see that being the problem? I am really worried at how badly I burn now. I have never been a fan of sunscreen, with my background being in cosmetics and my knowledge of ingredients.> > > I don't go and sun-bake, I just find if I sit out in the sun for small periods of time I go red raw. This has never happened, even when I was a kid.> > >> >>

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With respect, there are other views on milk. ("The Untold Story of Milk" & the Weston Price Foundation for starters.)AnneOn Jan 11, 2010, at 6:17 PM, Lise Brown wrote: Hi, I really would be writing for a long time. I would really recommend reading 'Your Life In Your Hands" By Professor Jane Plant as she goes into all the technical stuff as well as a whole lot of other stuff about it. I will say a few things though, I can't remember all the techno jargon. Basically a human is not designed to have milk from another mammal. Mammals milk is a hormone cocktail designed to make a mammal grow really big and really fast. Milk from another mammal is made perfectly to suit the species it is designed for. The composition of chemical and hormonal ingredients are dangerous in different quantities and combinations. Cows milk is designed to make a calf grow into a cow or bull. If we look into cancer we don't want to have anything that encourages anything to hormonally grow big and fast. Breast cancer is a hormonal cancer. Professor Jane is a scientist who traveled the world with a team of scientists helping solve health issues in remote areas.. They where instrumental in helping find out if health issues were genetic or environmentally responsible in certain places. The team of scientists that she worked with had access to research all over the world. Through her travels to remote parts of china where breast cancer is almost non existent, she found that it was not genetic. People from those areas that move to western countries develop breast cancer at the same rate as westerners. If they move back to these remote areas the rate of breast cancer then reduces back to almost nil. This, after much study and research, and also almost dying herself from breast cancer, she found that it was a lot of factors. One major one was dairy in the western diet. I have since gone on to read much more on this topic from many different sources and after reading them critically I can say I do not want my family to have dairy again, ever. Professor Jane also mentions as part of her healing regime, that she highly recommends Iodine. She says to have it as Icelandic kelp as the waters around there are not as polluted. When I met her in London and talked to her about using Lugols instead, she was very interested, especially in the amounts I was having. I think that this is an essential read as a first step to healing, not only from breast cancer but for also thyroid issues. After reading about the link between the thyroid and the breasts and breast cancer with iodine deficiency, I am so glad I have a wider understanding of the bigger links to these issues.And no I have never had breast cancer, only fibrocystic breast disease since I was a teenager. Lise From: <lizbonoptonline (DOT) net>iodine Sent: Fri, January 8, 2010 10:39:03 AMSubject: RE: Re: Mag and leg cramps/sunburn Lise, Could you let us know about the dangers of dairy? I’d heard about it before but don’t know the idea behind it. Thanks,Liz From: iodinegroups (DOT) com [mailto: iodinegroups (DOT) com ] On Behalf Of Lise BrownSent: Thursday, January 07, 2010 1:18 AMiodinegroups (DOT) comSubject: Re: Re: Mag and leg cramps/sunburn Wow, You know, I have always had a diet that was really high in dairy, I LOVE dairy, cheese, yoghurt..... I stopped after we discovered that my daughter had a severe issue with it. I later discovered a lump in my breast and found the book 'Your Life In Your Hands' By Professor Jane Plant. Amazing book, and I would recommend it to anyone, not just breast cancer sufferers. She also recommends Iodine as an essential nutrient to cancer recovery. But after reading this book and many other articles since, I would never have dairy raw or otherwise again. But you have made an interesting point that I just may be missing stuff from cutting that out, I wonder what it is, may be it is the Omegas? Lise From: freshfacejoe <freshfacejoe>iodinegroups (DOT) comSent: Thu, January 7, 2010 10:36:58 AMSubject: Re: Mag and leg cramps/sunburn Lise: This is only my experience so take it for what it's worth, but your situation really resonates with me. I used to burn horribly from my teen years on. I just remember one day being like 14 or so and realizing I had to severely cut my time in the sun because my body couldn't handle it anymore like when I was a kid. Was tired of the really bad burns. This went on for 15 years or so, and I look back on it and I can't believe I spent so many beautiful summer days indoors in my teens and 20s and thought that was perfectly normal. And the times I did go out, I would slather myself in sunscreen and still end up getting burned.My health drastically declined at the age of 29 (mostly stomach) and after 5 long years (I was really brainwashed) of riding the mainstream medical joke carousel didn't help me a single bit, I decided to go the natural route. I was kind of clueless for another 18 months after that, hitting health stores and buying up vitamins and cheap supplements and hoping for a quick fix. The biggest stumbling block in my life back then was my complete and total enslavement to "convenience" . I just wanted to go to a store, buy something and have that solve all my problems. Dumb.Then in fall 2005 I finally made the first tentative commitment to really change my diet. I started drinking raw milk and kefir made from raw milk from a local farmer in winter 2005-06 to help with grueling stomach problems and the first thing I noticed when summer came around was that I could stand being out in the sun again. I wanted to be out in the sun again. I went from ALWAYS burning right away to tanning that first summer. I can't emphasize enough how astonishing this was to me after all those years. "Whoa! This is new." And I just knew from listening to my body that the sun wasn't going to be a problem anymore.That was the first change in my health situation in years and from that point on I started eating all these other different natural and fermented foods and whatnot and I eventually found my way here with iodine. But I was on nothing but raw milk/kefir when this change occurred. I had completely eliminated fast food and other obvious garbage, so my diet was cleaner at the time, but it was still far from ideal. I guess I was eating a lot of farm-fresh eggs as well, but other than that, nothing that was particularly healthy.I went from avoiding the sun to loving the sun in that one summer.I am kind of a Vitamin D fanatic these days (making up for lost time, I guess) and I make it a point to exercise outdoors shirtless (just shorts, socks and sneakers) between noon and 2 pm for at least an hour pretty much every day during the summer months. I usually shoot hoops on the blacktop with the summer sun beating down on me. Feels great, the hotter the better. No sunscreen, no worries. Been doing this faithfully the past 3 years. And I still drink a ton of raw milk.When I golf with my friends in the summer (which I probably shouldn't do due to all the chemicals soaking the golf courses, man it is so bad on some of them and I do feel sick sometimes; the iodine really helped with that this past fall) and they all drench themselves in sunscreen on the first tee, I just stand there and tell them, "Hey, I drink my sunscreen."Still not sure why, but this really happened. Maybe it was the Omega 3s? I grew up on the Standard American Diet, God knows my body had probably been severely lacking in those for decades.- Joe> > >> > > Vitamin B deficiency? Can cause that,> > > > > > Bruce> > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: Lise Brown > > > > > > > > > > > > Only Iodine, Magnesium and Selenium. I don't know if I am deficient in omegas? I have become dairy and gluten free in that time, but I can't see that being the problem? I am really worried at how badly I burn now. I have never been a fan of sunscreen, with my background being in cosmetics and my knowledge of ingredients.> > > I don't go and sun-bake, I just find if I sit out in the sun for small periods of time I go red raw. This has never happened, even when I was a kid.> > >> >>

[Guest guest]

Yes, I must say, I'm a bit skeptical of drastic one-size-fits all

prescriptions for human diet. Humans really do vary between cultures and

from person to person within cultures as to what is the best diet for each

one. Some of the longest-lived peoples of the world are dairy

herders. Certainly, industrial dairy " farming " is harmful to people's

health, both on the macro and micro scales.

--

>With respect, there are other views on milk. ( " The Untold Story of Milk " &

>the Weston Price Foundation for starters.)

>

>Anne

~~~ There is no way to peace; peace is the way ~~~~

--A.J. Muste

[Guest guest]

what about Kefir which uses fefir grains in milk and transforms most of the lactose?

what about yoghurt, similar though some consider not as good as Kefir.

and importantly if you give up dairy how do you get your calcium in anything like

sufficient quantities

From: Baker <vbaker@...>Subject: Re: Re: Mag and leg cramps/sunburniodine Date: Tuesday, 12 January, 2010, 6:19

Yes, I must say, I'm a bit skeptical of drastic one-size-fits all prescriptions for human diet. Humans really do vary between cultures and from person to person within cultures as to what is the best diet for each one. Some of the longest-lived peoples of the world are dairy herders. Certainly, industrial dairy "farming" is harmful to people's health, both on the macro and micro scales.-->With respect, there are other views on milk. ("The Untold Story of Milk" & >the Weston Price Foundation for starters.)>>Anne~~~ There is no way to peace; peace is the way ~~~~--A.J. Muste